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Grabbing a 64 N9, with the FFC, and putting WP7.5 on it? Best of both worlds right? Cake and ice cream?
Well.. i tried googling; whats "FFC" stands for?
Ffc = Front facing camera
Required for Skype, tango, video calling in general
Front Facing Camera.
Andyeah I really wish the N9 came out in America with WP7.5. I would of jumped the jump for that one. But the lumia 800... I feel that I am settling. Although i bet the battery life on that phone is amazing
At least the N9 has 64Gb storage.
And it took them 9 months to finally come to this.....?
Where has the money offered by Microsoft gone?
As big Nokia fan (i owned like 30 nokia phones) i'm pretty disappointed with their new phones and OS they choosed.
Ah. Yeah, like I said in the other topic, I missed that too. Non sense compairing with the second generation of WP7. All of them have FFC.
i would prefer an E7 with mango
I don't think that is going to happen. WP7 is only supposed to work on Qualcomm CPUs... the N9 uses a TI chip. Also it only has 1 GHz as opposed to 1.4 GHz... though the 1 GB RAM and 64 GB memory would be appreciated. But perhaps at least there will be a 64 GB version.
kadajawi said:
I don't think that is going to happen. WP7 is only supposed to work on Qualcomm CPUs... the N9 uses a TI chip. Also it only has 1 GHz as opposed to 1.4 GHz... though the 1 GB RAM and 64 GB memory would be appreciated. But perhaps at least there will be a 64 GB version.
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I'm not sure about this but... didn't the windows phone 7 phones come with an internal SD card for storage? And the could actually be replaced by a bigger SD?
blanket said:
i would prefer an E7 with mango
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ditto. although e7 would need to double its RAM to run WP.
renatofontes said:
I'm not sure about this but... didn't the windows phone 7 phones come with an internal SD card for storage? And the could actually be replaced by a bigger SD?
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They're getting away from that in 2nd gen. WP7 phones. They're going with non-removable internal memory now....at least some of them are. And I believe Nokia is one who is.
kadajawi said:
I don't think that is going to happen. WP7 is only supposed to work on Qualcomm CPUs... the N9 uses a TI chip. Also it only has 1 GHz as opposed to 1.4 GHz... though the 1 GB RAM and 64 GB memory would be appreciated. But perhaps at least there will be a 64 GB version.
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Also don't all WP devices need these three set buttons on the front and of course the N9 lacks any front buttons at all.
Can't put WP7 on the N9 since it is missing a cam button and the three face buttons (back, home, search) also the screen is an unsupported res also the cpu is not supported either. Still all nokia really had to do is tweak those things and NOT SCREW UP WHAT THEY ALREADY HAD IN PLACE... but I guess that was just too hard. Lost one sale to me, thats for sure. If this had FFC and 64GB of storage it woulda been a day one purchase for me. Now I'm prob gonna just get a Nexus or a Titan although both of them don't have a very good option for storage either... I want my 64GB... It's like I;m forced to buy an iPhone and I soooooo don't want to.
Totally agree. I could have lived with no FFC, but 16GB ONLY ? Why don't make different sizes, like the N9 ? Propose a 16GB for cheap, and ask for, say, 200$ more for a 64GB... I'd buy it ! But now, no big reason to buy it as I already have 16GB on my LG.
lpaso said:
Why don't make different sizes, like the N9 ? Propose a 16GB for cheap, and ask for, say, 200$ more for a 64GB... I'd buy it !
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Yeah, I'd easily pay more for 64GB. As for reasons, we can only guess but I think it's due to manufacturing constraints. They can only produce a limited quantity initially, and opted for the most popular (cheaper) option.
Overall I wouldn't look at this device as a flagship for months to come (at least without modifications). Their first priority was to make it available, so they had to focus and left things behind.
I'll get it anyway, and if something better shows up soon I'll happily change. I like changing phones as often as I can. Don't give a damn about FFC. 16GB is tiny, but bearable, at least it's not 8 like on Radar or Omnia W.
Not to bothered with the storage on this it's no worse than say the new Nexus, considering we will not be getting the larger storage version in the UK. The FCC is not something I would ever use so that's no loss.
bmstrong said:
Grabbing a 64 N9, with the FFC, and putting WP7.5 on it? Best of both worlds right? Cake and ice cream?
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Seeing how N9 sports a TI OMAP and MSFT's push for Qualcomm marriage, I don't think it is happening.
As a long time Nokia user, these phones seem pretty much what they should be.
In Nokia-speak, a 700 series phone is mid-range phone - affordable and for the masses. An 800 series phone is a middle tier phone with better design and features.
What we (enthusiasts) are waiting for is the 900 series phone (like an N9) that is their design flagship. That phone is still in the wings, as well as a 500 series entry-level model. Believe me there will be a 900 series phone since the Windows Phones are now their premium smartphone platform, an Nokia will need a successor to the N9 to carry the flag.
So don't look at these as the entire Nokia Windows Mobile line - they are just the first ones out of the gate.
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Yeah, I'd easily pay more for 64GB.
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Of course, I would pay immediately for 32GB or 64GB.
Whereas 16GB is a dealbreaker. Paying for an underpowered device is always a bad investment IMO
I'm planning to sell my old Z1C for a 5.5 inch Zenfone 2 (2gb)... Will it be worth it? How's overall performace on this? App compatibilities (the mobile Intel processor is foreign to me)? Official and dev support?
2k14 said:
I'm planning to sell my old Z1C for a 5.5 inch Zenfone 2 (2gb)... Will it be worth it? How's overall performace on this? App compatibilities (the mobile Intel processor is foreign to me)? Official and dev support?
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I happen to love my ZF2 ZE551 4/64 since it can run Windoze 7 & 8 w/ a custom kernel supporting kvm. Just my 2 cents
ycavan said:
I happen to love my ZF2 ZE551 4/64 since it can run Windoze 7 & 8 w/ a custom kernel supporting kvm. Just my 2 cents
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Woah! Windows Phone roms??! That sounds fantastic... But compared to your 4gb device, how will the 2gb one fair? I do basic multitasking, multimedia browsing and my Z1C's 2gb has served me well though...
P.S. My budget doesn't grasp the 4gb model
2k14 said:
Woah! Windows Phone roms??! That sounds fantastic... But compared to your 4gb device, how will the 2gb one fair? I do basic multitasking, multimedia browsing and my Z1C's 2gb has served me well though...
P.S. My budget doesn't grasp the 4gb model
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lol, no desktop Windoze... not windows phone Please see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/zf2-running-windows-7-using-kvm-t3153299
tbh? I'm sure the 2gb phone will be fine for most anything. I have yet to find any apps that don't work on my ZF2 & most Android apps are NOT going to use 2 gigs of ram.
Don't think you'll have any problem with the 2GB version. Is it the 1.8ghz or the 2.3ghz model? Again, it shouldn't make a huge difference - the two chips have identical architecture, the same base speed and the same gpu. The only difference is the higher spec one can turbo higher in bursts. There are some corners cut to sell a device as cheaply as the Zenfone range, but powerful performance isn't lacking, and though it is a low to mid-range device I believe you get more than you pay for and it punches above it's weight. I came from an iPhone 5 to my Zenfone ZE550ML and I love it.
kanagawaben said:
Don't think you'll have any problem with the 2GB version. Is it the 1.8ghz or the 2.3ghz model? Again, it shouldn't make a huge difference - the two chips have identical architecture, the same base speed and the same gpu. The only difference is the higher spec one can turbo higher in bursts. There are some corners cut to sell a device as cheaply as the Zenfone range, but powerful performance isn't lacking, and though it is a low to mid-range device I believe you get more than you pay for and it punches above it's weight. I came from an iPhone 5 to my Zenfone ZE550ML and I love it.
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I understand the ZF2's stance in the high-mid range of the market however I'm concerned whether the ZF2 will be a downgrade from my Z1C... I'm particularly hoping the ZF2 as similarly snappy and capable as my Z1C but with the advantages that come as a phone thats released this year as opposed to the 2013 Z1C.
Also the Z1C has an amazing camera that has served me well. How's the ZF2's camera?
Well, benchmarks suggest the Zenfone 2 has quite a big performance advantage over your Z1C, and most users on here will probably tell you that it is very smooth and snappy to use in real everyday usage too. The camera on the Zenfone has its detractors, but mostly they are comparing it to things like the Galaxy S6 or iPhones. It is not perfect by any means, but a capable camera given the price. All reviews I have read pretty much slate the Z1/Z1C's camera though, so you might find that the Zenfone's is at least on a par.
Hi guys,
My good friend has a mobile fix store.
I'm thinking if it is "theoretically" possible to replace the 2GB chip to a different one?
Look here @ iFixit
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Here's the chips is a huge high-res image. The red one is the RAM chip.
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/GUvrNofWVjoHTgMV.huge
What do you think?
Anything is theoretically possible, but chances are your friend doesn't have the equipment to do this. Almost no one does surface mount repairs, and if you read, the actual processor shares that space, further complicating things.
While it may be possible, it's entirely implausible.
mewshi said:
Anything is theoretically possible, but chances are your friend doesn't have the equipment to do this. Almost no one does surface mount repairs, and if you read, the actual processor shares that space, further complicating things.
While it may be possible, it's entirely implausible.
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Let's say he does have the equipment... he does the most advanced fixes on mobile. If I had a Snapdragon 810 together with the 3gb RAM pulled from a Nexus 6P, it should be swappable, right?
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zurih said:
Let's say he does have the equipment... he does the most advanced fixes on mobile. If I had a Snapdragon 810 together with the 3gb RAM pulled from a Nexus 6P, it should be swappable, right?
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Why don't you give it a try and then let us know?
Cell phones aren't designed to have the CPU/RAM swapped out like a computer. The interconnects/traces on the motherboard probably would not support such a swap.
For instance the 6p uses DDR4 and the 5x uses DDR3.
I wouldn't harbor any hopes this could possibly work if I were you. Most certainly you'll end with a stylish paperweight. Electronics are not bricks you can swap and rearrange at will. They are placed a and connected following a complicated design where every element affects any other element in the board. Getting a 6p to scrap parts for the 5x will end in an epic fail of trashing two good phones
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Pelrauns said:
I wouldn't harbor any hopes this could possibly work if I were you. Most certainly you'll end with a stylish paperweight. Electronics are not bricks you can swap and rearrange at will.
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Not yet at least! COME PROJECT ARA we need you!
bblzd said:
Cell phones aren't designed to have the CPU/RAM swapped out like a computer. The interconnects/traces on the motherboard probably would not support such a swap.
For instance the 6p uses DDR4 and the 5x uses DDR3.
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I'd be extremely surprised if this weren't the case. Obviously it's impossible to know without having more data on the soc's or someone trying it but I really doubt it's worth the headache/time/money. Then you'd run into software/firmware issues. The swap itself wouldn't be fun either. I'd just get a 6p if it were that important.
Illogi.xbone said:
Not yet at least! COME PROJECT ARA we need you!
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The catch is for that kind of modularity some design concessions should be made both in software and hardware. Think for example about the Apple model. They just develop their software for a reference hardware platform. That allows them to tune the software so precisely they can get a lot more performance than a PC with similar specs. That's mostly because the PC runs an OS made to work in many heterogeneous hardware platforms and the PC is made to support a variety of hardware modules and combination of those. That will also plague project ARA.
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Is there was a way to check if the chips/motherboards are compatible I would go ahead and test it. My friend has from now and then spare parts from various devices, but still I would risk it if there would be a way to really ensure if SD808 and SD810 are compatible is the way they're fused into the motherboard.
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This is 100% not going to work, so don't waste any spare parts. I doubt, that the pin layout for the 808 and the 810 are the same. Apart from that, even if they would be compatible there would most certainly still be driver problems and problems with the peripheral controllers/chips.
So the only thing you would get are two fried motherboards.
zurih said:
Hi guys,
My good friend has a mobile fix store.
I'm thinking if it is "theoretically" possible to replace the 2GB chip to a different one?
Look here @ iFixit
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Here's the chips is a huge high-res image. The red one is the RAM chip.
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/GUvrNofWVjoHTgMV.huge
What do you think?
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I think you should buy another phone.
if you're going to get a N6P for parts, why not just get a N6P instead?
zurih said:
Hi guys,
My good friend has a mobile fix store.
I'm thinking if it is "theoretically" possible to replace the 2GB chip to a different one?
Look here @ iFixit
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Here's the chips is a huge high-res image. The red one is the RAM chip.
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/GUvrNofWVjoHTgMV.huge
What do you think?
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The 6P uses DDR4. The Snapdragon 808 doesn't support DDR4. It won't work. Simple as that.
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Seems that a EU version of the A50 has only 4gb ram and 128gb model.
Was sort of interested in the a50 but would have certainly liked the extra Ram,
Wonder when this thing hits the UK and what sort of variants will it have then
manus31 said:
Seems that a EU version of the A50 has only 4gb ram and 128gb model.
Was sort of interested in the a50 but would have certainly liked the extra Ram,
Wonder when this thing hits the UK and what sort of variants will it have then
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Doesn't matter that much, Pixel phones and iPhones also have only 4GB ram but they are fast enough due to their software optimizations
ThatZenon said:
Doesn't matter that much, Pixel phones and iPhones also have only 4GB ram but they are fast enough due to their software optimizations
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Having owned both 2gb,4gb ,and 6gb phones,I can tell you it definitely makes a difference to performance and memory management
manus31 said:
Having owned both 2gb,4gb ,and 6gb phones,I can tell you it definitely makes a difference to performance and memory management
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It depends upon the processor not the ram, compare it with iPhone or pixel
ThatZenon said:
It depends upon the processor not the ram, compare it with iPhone or pixel
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Yep, processor is important but most processor s these days are adequate enough for most users
The more ram you have though does help performance because it means your phone can hold more apps in memory and bring those apps up quicker when needed,
Software and Ram management plays a role here also,
But your phone will definitely be a nippier better performer all things considered
manus31 said:
Yep, processor is important but most processor s these days are adequate enough for most users
The more ram you have though does help performance because it means your phone can hold more apps in memory and bring those apps up quicker when needed,
Software and Ram management plays a role here also,
But your phone will definitely be a nippier better performer all things considered
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Yeah I agree , more ram let's you store more apps in memory so that you can open them quickly without the need to load, Software optimizations also play an important role so it varies across different manufacturers according to their software optimizations, Currently all flagships mostly start with 6GB RAM in base variant, so there is no need to worry if you change your phone like every year or two, but if you want to keep it for more than two , you can consider a higher RAM variant.
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manus31 said:
Yep, processor is important but most processor s these days are adequate enough for most users
The more ram you have though does help performance because it means your phone can hold more apps in memory and bring those apps up quicker when needed,
Software and Ram management plays a role here also,
But your phone will definitely be a nippier better performer all things considered
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Yeah I agree , more ram let's you store more apps in memory so that you can open them quickly without the need to load, Software optimizations also play an important role so it varies across different manufacturers according to their software optimizations, Currently flagships mostly start with 6GB RAM in base variant, so there is no need to worry if you change your phone like every year or two, but if you want to keep it for more than two , you can consider a higher RAM variant.
Does the EU model A50 have NFC?
I find different information...
Yes it does. Using it many times a day to make payments.
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Which country can install ROM for my 6gb Ram 9610 Exynos one sim device
Hi,
Anyone that has DEVELOPED using JAVA knows that the RAM HEAP is the MOST relevant issue for performance. So 6GB instead of 4GB makes a BIG DIFFERENCE.
Read more in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a50/help/6gb-ram-128gb-flash-t3907146
Hey folks ?!
Hope you guys doing good.
So from last few months I am seeing these heated arguments and criticism towards Samsung for using exynos and people claiming it to be "inferior" compared to snapdragon. I don't get it why people are focusing so much on benchmark these days. Just enjoy the experience you are getting it.
I was actually researching on this and came across Geekbench 5 where things turn out to be different in computer score or rather I should say openCL score. I don't know much about it so would be cool if anyone can shine light on it. Difference between exynos and snapdragon is exponentially high like it's insane. (check my ss).
Well I personally have been using snapdragon for more than 7-8 years now and this is my first exynos device, I am pretty happy with it. My last phone has SD 845 and I can say it's a pretty much a welcome improvement over it.
I wanted to know what you guys think about this ? Btw I am leaving my exynos benchmark below, would be cool to see where exactly the difference is present.
The major issue is that you pay the same price, if not more, for a worse hardware.
Nastrahl said:
The major issue is that you pay the same price, if not more, for a worse hardware.
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Well I agree on your part, many people claim the exynos is really trash but when I was browsing through different articles I came across opencl. It's a benchmarking code for CPU, GPU, ram, storage etc.
In this test exynos totally outclassed the snapdragon series. I thought it might be touchwiz restricting it but nope, one plus 7T had similar score.
Also exynos has a slightly better single core performance. This is what baffles me.
The thing is, many users complain about heavy throttling when cpu temps get high, which by the way, havs never ocurred to my 975F, in spite of heavy gaming/streamming and such over long periods of use (2-4 hours), so, from my experience, I have absolutely nothing to complain about, I am not, by any means saying that exynos is better ir superior, but, in NO WAY exynos is "trash" or samsung is abusive by putting them in flagship devices, I knew beforehand that an exynos SOC would be inside the device, nobody forced me to buy the device, if someone wants a snapdragon powered device, there are plenty if options to choose from, in fact, in my country there were snapdragon versions available, even cheaper, but not ditributed by carriers, which is a really important factor when warranty service/support is needed, so in the end it is not a matter of samsung abusing or deceiving customers, it is a matter of consumers assuming RESPONSABILITY for the decision they made to buy an international note series device THAT NOBODY forced them to
But there is the crux of the matter, I have no option BUT to get the Exynos variant in my country...
It has been proven time and again that the Exynos has higher power usage meaning that battery life is down by up to 20% in some tests, CPU does get throttled and also, due to the inferior processing power, photo's aren't as good on the Exynos versus the Snapdragon.
Hell, Samsung ditched their own chip in their home country in favour of the Snapdragon... Yet they keep pushing out their less premium hardware and still charge us the same as, or more than, the superior SoC phones...
Hopefully this will be rectified with their new deal with AMD but anyone who got the Exynos chip in their phone really has an inferior phone to the counterparts that got the Snapdragon.
Your argument that people can get the Snapdragon variant by looking around is not taking into account warranty is not honored for hardware that is for a different region. If you have a Snapdragon phone that has ANY warranty problem, it MUST be returned to the region that it came from which is ridiculous.
Samsung has admitted the Exynos is an inferior chip by replacing their own chip with the Snapdragon in their own country, now they need to do the same for everywhere else...
I maybe wrong, but don't Exynos variants get update faster than Snapdragon?
Tbh, I dont know if one version gets updates faster than the other, but, what I know for sure is, I really liked the device as it was when I purchased it, I researched enough to know about it, its best features and its performance, so, I just dont care much about future updates, as I liked the device for what it was out of the box, plain and simple