Just curious if anyone has found a way to bring this to older Pixel phones yet. This is the one feature i'm really looking forward to.
It seems by virtue of the fact there are no replies, that this is either an ignored post, or there are no answers as of yet.
Reported from Slash Gear:
"It’s still unknown whether older Pixel phones will get the same treatment. The Pixel 2 is still within the supported period so, unless Google considers it to be blocked by older hardware, the compact Google Assistant should still be able to make its way to it"
https://www.slashgear.com/pixel-4-c...out-to-some-pixel-3-and-3-xl-phones-10599137/
I already have it in my Pixel 2 XL. I am a level 7 local guide though with early access to upcoming features. So yes, this will definitely hit the Pixel 2 (XL) as well!
@addemer - that's awesome news! How are you finding it?
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I already have it in my Pixel 2 XL. I am a level 7 local guide though with early access to upcoming features. So yes, this will definitely hit the Pixel 2 (XL) as well!
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How do you know you have it? I thought i read that GAssistant wont have the cool new UI like on the Pixel 4.
Im also a level 7 local guide and GAssistant beta tester. But i dont think i have it.
I do not have the Pixel 4 UI but the new compact view that the article above mentions.
That wasn't what I was referring to. I was looking for the new faster assistant with continued conversation. I heard others have gotten it to work on a rooted phone by changing the build.prop to a pixel 4.
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With all the talk about how Google is changing their focus to be more mainstream, has there been any mention if they will still be releasing the "factory" images for any major updates/security patches like they have in the past for Nexus devices? I could not find any information about this.
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With all the talk about how Google is changing their focus to be more mainstream, has there been any mention if they will still be releasing the "factory" images for any major updates/security patches like they have in the past for Nexus devices? I could not find any information about this.
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No, no news yet. I think there's a chance they won't because this isn't a Nexus. Who knows though.
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With all the talk about how Google is changing their focus to be more mainstream, has there been any mention if they will still be releasing the "factory" images for any major updates/security patches like they have in the past for Nexus devices? I could not find any information about this.
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Well I saw on https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
They might because if you see the Google Pixel C factory images are there,
I assume they would release them for the Pixel phones same place when released
Remember not released yet or launched why would files be in public yet.
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Well I saw on https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
They might because if you see the Google Pixel C factory images are there,
I assume they would release them for the Pixel phones same place when released
Remember not released yet or launched why would files be in public yet.
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I know they won't be there now but usually stuff like this leaks or Google confirms now that the phone has "launched". Guess I'll wait until release.
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I know they won't be there now but usually stuff like this leaks or Google confirms now that the phone has "launched". Guess I'll wait until release.
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Dude phone launches october 20 they told me also you can ask google support but they migjt not answer
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Pixel device Factory Images should still be available, if going by precedent.
Plus since Google doesn't have a Physical repair center and Pixel owners most likely will not be able to get support from local provider: It would be very wise to allow Pixel owners the ability/convenience to 'Factory Update refresh'
They will most likely be posted
I can't imagine it would be much different from the Pixel C in regards to factory images.
Pixel and Pixel XL System Image
Pixel and Pixel XL System Image
Above link found on reddit. Not from official sources, I think.
Pixel and Pixel XL images are up at the Nexus Factory Images site.
Hey everyone. Simple questions. First, is the Pixel XL worth upgrading to from the Nexus 6P with the RMA that is being done right now? Second, where is all the development? Was the Pixel XL tough to begin development for or did not many devs take to it? I run RR now but used PN before it for a while (amongst others). I see PN exists here too but not a lot of other ROMs, unless I'm missing them.
Anyway, the short of it is this. Is it worth taking the upgrade instead of a refurbished and is there enough active development for someone that enjoys flashing and trying things?
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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It's an expensive device. That's one barrier for active development.
The new a/b update. That's another problem.
Take the upgrade. Sell it, buy something else. Like the oneplus
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Hey everyone. Simple questions. First, is the Pixel XL worth upgrading to from the Nexus 6P with the RMA that is being done right now? Second, where is all the development? Was the Pixel XL tough to begin development for or did not many devs take to it? I run RR now but used PN before it for a while (amongst others). I see PN exists here too but not a lot of other ROMs, unless I'm missing them.
Anyway, the short of it is this. Is it worth taking the upgrade instead of a refurbished and is there enough active development for someone that enjoys flashing and trying things?
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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Definitely a matter of opinion and preference. I know the seemingly lack of development is in part because a lot of teams I assume are either working on an Oreo rebase or waiting for the Pixel 2 perhaps? The other reason is the dual-partitions / A-B slots which is why there's been issues with TWRP and GAPPS I believe. It does seem like there's a lot of the same ROMs available as the 6P, just 7.1.2 instead of 8.0.
just got my replacement Pixel XL last week and I had run RR on my 6P for the longest time, but shortly before returning it I had been using Oreo with just a handful of mods, so switching to the XL and doing the same wasn't too drastic a change. The screen being smaller is hardly noticeable to me. The dual front-facing speakers are missed, but the phone being way more responsive and smooth is a fair trade off for me since I didn't listen to music too often through the speakers.
If you do like to hop around from ROM to ROM a lot this phone might leave a little to be desired, but if you plan on just using Oreo with some mods (check out the themes and apps section, I'm using the Aroma installer mods by Tulsadiver) then you will probably be content. Honestly, I plan on trying to sell it on Swappa shortly after the Pixel 2 XL comes out so I wasn't too worried about the amount of ROM choices and was glad to get the free upgrade even if just for a month or two till I get the Pixel 2 XL.
I'd take the RMA if for no other reason than the Pixel is a far superior device. If you really have a need to constantly flash and try things then it may not be the best device for you. If you want the best experience Android has to offer out of the box, then look no further than the Pixel.
I certainly don't HAVE to jump from ROM to ROM but the option from time to time would be nice. I have been interested in Oreo but haven't tried it yet on 6P. Is rooting difficult for the Pixel XL? I haven't heard about the A/B slot thing, I'll have to do more research tomorrow. Thanks guys!
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I certainly don't HAVE to jump from ROM to ROM but the option from time to time would be nice. I have been interested in Oreo but haven't tried it yet on 6P. Is rooting difficult for the Pixel XL? I haven't heard about the A/B slot thing, I'll have to do more research tomorrow. Thanks guys!
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I'm sure here soon there will be more ROM options once everyone gets Oreo up and running and gets the kinks worked out. And rooting and unlocking isn't really difficult, but a different experience from the 6P that's for sure. One downside to Oreo right now is that there's no officially supported TWRP aside from a bootable version you have to use fastboot / bootloader to get into it. So depending on how often you're around a computer, that may or may not be an issue. Supposedly some people have the RC1 or RC2 versions of TWRP working so you don't need the PC, but it takes 10-15+ minutes for it to reboot into recovery. Haven't tried for myself though.
if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week
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if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week
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Well that's just if you're out of warranty they direct you to Huawei (brick wall) so that they can hang up on you
Does that also count for Project Fi customers? You would think they would want to make them happy.
I was lucky. I got my RMA in last Friday and got my Pixel XL 128g phone today. Totally worth it. No more battery issues and it just looks better.
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Does that also count for Project Fi customers? You would think they would want to make them happy.
I was lucky. I got my RMA in last Friday and got my Pixel XL 128g phone today. Totally worth it. No more battery issues and it just looks better.
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Pretty sure it's everyone out of the warranty period whether you got it from the Google store or Fi. I got mine last week, contacted them Sun night, and since I still was within the warranty (bought it Nov 2016) and had Nexus Protect on the device it was next day shipping and didn't even have to pay the deductible. I do miss the 6P, but the Pixel is smooth as silk. :good:
I've already been approved for the replacement with a 128GB black Pixel XL, I just haven't processed the order yet. Coming up with the 870 to put on hold is the tough part. I'm pretty sure the replacements stopped for out of warranty units too, not ones still covered. The rep tools me they have almost no refurbished units to use as replacements. I think I might pull the trigger and do the replacement to avoid complete failure on the 6P. It's a shame because I LOVE the 6P.
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It's so much better I'm not going to bother getting the note 8 or the v30. Makes the 6p seem older than it was. The SD 810 really was a dog. Better photos, which is nuts, much better battery life, all the little parts of the pixel experience, better build quality. Holding out to see what the s9 brings to the table
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I appreciate all the input everyone, thank you. Now to find a way to put 870+ on hold for a while lol. That's the real dilemma.
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wgrant said:
I appreciate all the input everyone, thank you. Now to find a way to put 870+ on hold for a while lol. That's the real dilemma.
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Do you have a credit card? I contacted Google two days ago due to my 6p battery turning into a potato. They hooked me up with a pixel XL which is on the way.
I used my credit card to put the 800 dollar hold on.
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Do you have a credit card? I contacted Google two days ago due to my 6p battery turning into a potato. They hooked me up with a pixel XL which is on the way.
I used my credit card to put the 800 dollar hold on.
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I have one but not with the available balance needed. I wish I could figure out a way but it looks like I'm gonna miss the opportunity to replace my phone at this point.
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I have one but not with the available balance needed. I wish I could figure out a way but it looks like I'm gonna miss the opportunity to replace my phone at this point.
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Ask them if you can send your phone first.
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murso74 said:
Ask them if you can send your phone first.
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That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)
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That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)
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He can print the shipping label, that's how they do the exchange anyway. Google's pretty good at working with people. Tell them your problem. Worst thing that happens is that you're out a phone for a few days
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That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)
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Tried that and they won't. Talked to 2 different reps too. I have my old note 4 I can fall back on for a few days while I wait if I can get them to do it that way. I'll try again tomorrow.
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week
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No, that's just one guy on Reddit who was told no over chat. I used the telephone support on Sunday because my Nexus 6P went into bootloop and they had to "ask the next level support" if they could "give me a warranty exception" but I shipped my Nexus 6P 64 out Sunday and my Pixel XL 128 will be here tomorrow. There were a few others in the Reddit thread who also successfully got a replacement after this supposed "ending" of RMAs.
Factory images will be up soon and first round of devices shipping in weeks. Will 2 XL be similar enough to XL that the lessons learned by Root & Recovery developers on the XL will translate to working root and recovery coming straight away or are new challenges expected?
I remember Pixel 2 will come with Android 8, not 8.1. It should be quite similar for development.
So anyone have an opinion? Will we have Root & Recovery straight away or no?
Not sure about "straight away" but I know Pure Nexus dev @BeansTown106 purchased a 2 XL, so I imagine it'll be up and running as soon as he can cook it up the way he likes.
The entire dev community learned allot with the First Pixel.
I am looking forward to and confident that the Pixel 2XL will be supported.
I'm thinking XDA development will rock for this badboy device...
Well OK! Hoping device turns out to be stellar and developers have fun with it!
If you look at the pixel XL Dev forum vs say the s8+ Dev forum, it doesn't look as active or full of custom roms ect. I would of guessed other way around
Yeah.. compare to the Nexus 6 forum the original pixel is dead
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I hate to agree, but I noticed this also. The amount of development for the Pixel and Pixel XL is a lot less than Nexus phones of past. It seems like the OnePlus and even the LG G* phones are more popular with devs now. I was really surprised to see that after a year there is no offical version of Lineage OS for the original Pixel phones and still complications and difficulties with root and TWRP. The A/B partitions and extra security measures seem to create a lot of complicaitons.
I'm hoping that everything learned with the first Pixel phones will translate into more and better development for the Pixel 2 phones, but I wouldn't bet on it. I also think the high price of the Pixel phones is a barrier for a lot of devs.
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I hate to agree, but I noticed this also. The amount of development for the Pixel and Pixel XL is a lot less than Nexus phones of past. It seems like the OnePlus and even the LG G* phones are more popular with devs now. I was really surprised to see that after a year there is no offical version of Lineage OS for the original Pixel phones and still complications and difficulties with root and TWRP. The A/B partitions and extra security measures seem to create a lot of complicaitons.
I'm hoping that everything learned with the first Pixel phones will translate into more and better development for the Pixel 2 phones, but I wouldn't bet on it. I also think the high price of the Pixel phones is a barrier for a lot of devs.
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Was the Pixel / Pixel XL offered unlocked, or just carrier variants?
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Was the Pixel / Pixel XL offered unlocked, or just carrier variants?
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They were offered unlocked straight from Google and locked from carriers like Verizon. Early on, an unlocking solution was found for Verizon models but patched with later Nougat update 7.1.2
I'm hoping for good things here but these phones are so good in factory form it will be hard to improve on. Security is also more important as phones have access to everything you have.
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Yeah.. compare to the Nexus 6 forum the original pixel is dead
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They have enough development. If you want 30 ROMs that's the same rehased crap, get a oneplus device.
All you need is some source built aosp
Wish chrome had adblock. That and adfree YouTube are the only things I root for. Maybe we will get lucky and the 2 XL won't have a dual boot partition.
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Actually the Verizon could be unlocked with Android stock 7.1 using depixel8... But 7.1.1 update took away this ability.. my replacement Verizon xl came with 7.1.1 so i sold it
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Edit: nvm this is a different thread
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Lawlrus said:
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If you want 30 ROMs that's the same rehased crap, get a oneplus device.
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Quit beating around the bush, how do you REALLY feel
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Not sure about "straight away" but I know Pure Nexus dev @BeansTown106 purchased a 2 XL, so I imagine it'll be up and running as soon as he can cook it up the way he likes.
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This is great news! Pure Nexus is a great ROM and Beans does a fantastic job with it!
Haven't seen anything about this since August and I'm not hopeful at all, but is there any chance of a root method for the Verizon Pixel 2 on Android 9.0? Also, I bought one used so I'm not even sure if this is the Verizon model so I'm wondering how I check?
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Haven't seen anything about this since August and I'm not hopeful at all, but is there any chance of a root method for the Verizon Pixel 2 on Android 9.0? Also, I bought one used so I'm not even sure if this is the Verizon model so I'm wondering how I check?
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See if you can oem unlock in developer options. If you can then you can probably unlock it with fastboot.
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Haven't seen anything about this since August and I'm not hopeful at all, but is there any chance of a root method for the Verizon Pixel 2 on Android 9.0? Also, I bought one used so I'm not even sure if this is the Verizon model so I'm wondering how I check?
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It doesn't look like there's a (or ever will be) a root method for the Verizon variant. Especially considering the Pixel 3 is out and being that the Pixel 4 is probably going to be coming out in about 8 months, it is so highly unlikely that it's almost set in stone.
But as for your inquiry on how to check what model you might have, a website that many of us here use when we were first determining what variant we would get -- usually in the circumstance of getting it repaired and RMA'd -- is this one: http://www.imeipro.info/check_lg.html
Hope this helps...
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It doesn't look like there's a (or ever will be) a root method for the Verizon variant. Especially considering the Pixel 3 is out and being that the Pixel 4 is probably going to be coming out in about 8 months, it is so highly unlikely that it's almost set in stone.
But as for your inquiry on how to check what model you might have, a website that many of us here use when we were first determining what variant we would get -- usually in the circumstance of getting it repaired and RMA'd -- is this one: http://www.imeipro.info/check_lg.html
Hope this helps...
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Thanks man! Any suggestions on how to customize stuff with apps that work without root? I thought Substratum worked without root, but I guess not.
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Thanks man! Any suggestions on how to customize stuff with apps that work without root? I thought Substratum worked without root, but I guess not.
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Yeah...the usual "launchers" are the only options i'm aware of; i'm sure there are multiple others. I used to use, and still hear, good/great things about Nova Launcher -- but, then again, it's been since my Motorola Droid 3, so.....take it as you will....
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Haven't seen anything about this since August and I'm not hopeful at all, but is there any chance of a root method for the Verizon Pixel 2 on Android 9.0? Also, I bought one used so I'm not even sure if this is the Verizon model so I'm wondering how I check?
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@Digital_Cold on twitter just released source code for his PoC OneClickRoot application for pixel 2 (and possibly other phones, no other has been tested yet), which installs a version of magisk, but it is unrooted on reboot, like iOS jailbreak methods
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You have to have the September patch of Android Q or earlier, as it is fixed in the October patch
Hi
I apologise if this is already answered elsewhere but from what I read answers vary.
If a used unlocked pixel is bought and a different carrier is used than the one originally used, do ota updates still occur automatically or do they need to be done manually?
If ota updates do work with a different carrier does that mean the updates come from google or the carrier for this phone?
Thanks!
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Well updates come from google directly and I didn't have any issues switching carriers so all good. Quite a departure from my lg v20 which I like too...but things much simpler with pixel 3a, 3a xl.
None of the waiting around for infrequent updates/upgrades. I'm assuming with time a simple root procedure will be available also, it's probably already simple but haven't tried looking at that yet.
Still like my v20 hardware but the grass looks greener over here (despite no replaceable battery).
The pixel 3a xl is very nice to use so far! Hope google keeps these kinds of mid range phones (in price only) in it's future product offerings. Seems you get good hardware AND software support but everybody on this forum already knows that already, lol, I'm just catching up and finding out - hopefully no arm twisting curve balls come up when rooting and modding if I ever go that way.
Cheers