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I really didn't want to start a new thread but the the current threads regarding the hopeful update were either from users outside of the US or they turned into a rant about about why the update hasn't come yet. The most prominent thread on the subject that I saw ended up as a discussion on the financials of Google and HTC which was less the useful.
I am not wondering why I haven't gotten my JB update yet. Actually I am but I know a little more about the scenario then a question like that would make you believe. I have been following the news about the update to the One X and I know that the the international ones with the Tegra 3 started to receive the update a few weeks ago. That got me hopeful that my ATT One X with the measly (in comparison) 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 would be updated quickly. Unfortunately that has not happened and despite my efforts to find any sort of information regarding my phone, the Tegra 3 version still seems to dominate the news.
I am wondering if anyone has heard any news or received any information on the update schedule with the less capable ATT One X? The only thing I have heard are unsubstantiated claims of mid November but those font even don't even explain which model they are referring to so I am still in the dark. A news article, blog post or even an idiot with a website that provides me with a clue to a timeline is better then nothing.
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I really didn't want to start a new thread but the the current threads regarding the hopeful update were either from users outside of the US or they turned into a rant about about why the update hasn't come yet. The most prominent thread on the subject that I saw ended up as a discussion on the financials of Google and HTC which was less the useful.
I am not wondering why I haven't gotten my JB update yet. Actually I am but I know a little more about the scenario then a question like that would make you believe. I have been following the news about the update to the One X and I know that the the international ones with the Tegra 3 started to receive the update a few weeks ago. That got me hopeful that my ATT One X with the measly (in comparison) 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 would be updated quickly. Unfortunately that has not happened and despite my efforts to find any sort of information regarding my phone, the Tegra 3 version still seems to dominate the news.
I am wondering if anyone has heard any news or received any information on the update schedule with the less capable ATT One X? The only thing I have heard are unsubstantiated claims of mid November but those font even don't even explain which model they are referring to so I am still in the dark. A news article, blog post or even an idiot with a website that provides me with a clue to a timeline is better then nothing.
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The problem you're going to face is that the carrier has to approve Jelly Bean. AT&T is notorious for taking FOREVER to approve updates for phones on their network. It could be an additional 6 months...there's truly no way at all to know. The only way to ensure you'll get updates relatively quickly is to get a carrier independent phone (i.e. an unlocked international version of the HOX in this case) or a Google-branded Nexus device. If you're not on something like that, which you of course are not, then you're pretty much stuck waiting for your carrier to give you permission to be updated.
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The problem you're going to face is that the carrier has to approve Jelly Bean. AT&T is notorious for taking FOREVER to approve updates for phones on their network. It could be an additional 6 months...there's truly no way at all to know. The only way to ensure you'll get updates relatively quickly is to get a carrier independent phone (i.e. an unlocked international version of the HOX in this case) or a Google-branded Nexus device. If you're not on something like that, which you of course are not, then you're pretty much stuck waiting for your carrier to give you permission to be updated.
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This makes more sense after I did a bit of research. I had researched this phone for months but just now realized that the One X that I am using is basically only on the At&T network and some smaller networks. I was on Sprint before I moved to Alaska and was in love with the EVO 4G which had similar specs and is quite popular. Seems like the US version of the One X wasn't all that popular then. I am starting to be disappointed that I picked this over the S3.
The AT&T One X is actually a One XL, but at least you can change your CID to an unbranded one and get the update easily.
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The AT&T One X is actually a One XL, but at least you can change your CID to an unbranded one and get the update easily.
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Well that is just too tempting. I have have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on all my past android phone (Google Nexus and HTC EVO) but this is the first one that I haven't really had a desire to load a custom rom on. Everything has worked perfectly so far. I can wait till the new year but I really don't want to.
Is there any news about the the update to my phone?
So I just discovered that there is an entire forum dedicated to my version of the One X. My bad....
Just wondering how the Pixel XL did against the Nexus 6P?
I'm looking to upgrade to the S8+, but now I'm thinking to wait for the Pixel XXL.
It did better overall but we don't know how much since Google doesn't reveal. Also issues with availability did not help.
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The fact they could not keep stock of the 128Gig model, I think they under estimated demand.
Still love the Pixel XL even though new phones have been replaced.
I believe it sold a lot better because of how much they marketed it and it was being pushed by Verizon who has the most subscribers. I don't think they've published actual numbers to support this, but they definitely sold more units.
In just terms of development Nexus wins hands down.
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In just terms of development Nexus wins hands down.
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True.
Even the Nexus 5X has far more development.
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Agree, also the 5x and 6p were loaded for bear. As for the Pixel / XL I believe (my beliefs only don't go flaming) the slots for flashing are causing issues for those not totally familiar with the proper commands, monthly updates breaking twrp and root, SafetyNet breaking with each update, Verizon locking their bootloaders and the biggest.. The phone works great without a custom rom or kernel.
So if you desperately need root then I believe a lot of people are simply rooting stock so they can use ad blocking or feel they have total control over their device. (until they brick it but that's another discussion) I've really never seen so many experienced rooters and users here running stock. I wouldn't even unlock the bootloader (well I can't with Verizon) even though I wouldn't mind having the ability to do so for the future. So why would the devs spend time making a custom rom when there are limited users willing to use it?
Someone should make a poll of how many people who are experienced in rooting, unlocking, crack flashing (haven't heard that term in a while) etc. previous devices are now staying stock.
Rooted every device previously: But now..
1. Running Pixel / XL stock bl locked
2. Running Pixel / XL stock bl unlocked
3. Stock rooted
4. Custom rom
Might be interesting. My poll is number 1. The results might give you a clue as to why development is lighter for this device.
They still can't keep up with the demand 6 months later, that should answer the question
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Agree, also the 5x and 6p were loaded for bear. As for the Pixel / XL I believe (my beliefs only don't go flaming) the slots for flashing are causing issues for those not totally familiar with the proper commands, monthly updates breaking twrp and root, SafetyNet breaking with each update, Verizon locking their bootloaders and the biggest.. The phone works great without a custom rom or kernel.
So if you desperately need root then I believe a lot of people are simply rooting stock so they can use ad blocking or feel they have total control over their device. (until they brick it but that's another discussion) I've really never seen so many experienced rooters and users here running stock. I wouldn't even unlock the bootloader (well I can't with Verizon) even though I wouldn't mind having the ability to do so for the future. So why would the devs spend time making a custom rom when there are limited users willing to use it?
Someone should make a poll of how many people who are experienced in rooting, unlocking, crack flashing (haven't heard that term in a while) etc. previous devices are now staying stock.
Rooted every device previously: But now..
1. Running Pixel / XL stock bl locked
2. Running Pixel / XL stock bl unlocked
3. Stock rooted
4. Custom rom
Might be interesting. My poll is number 1. The results might give you a clue as to why development is lighter for this device.
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Too expensive phone less people buy it less donations less development.
HTC the most expensive phones with no reasons 200 euro more with same specs like others.
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They still can't keep up with the demand 6 months later, that should answer the question
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Is it really large demand or just really short supply. Google has done this with every phone since the Nexus 4. They have never had enough supply.
Soon will be almost 1 year and no even stable recovery what else to talk about this phone will be soon dead from development.Poor Google your how to say development phones dying.
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Soon will be almost 1 year and no even stable recovery what else to talk about this phone will be soon dead from development.Poor Google your how to say development phones dying.
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Good point. Do you think Google cares about devolpment any longer? Or was this a test of how they can now make a great phone that people want who don't care about root? Thus the high cost. I think dev is basically over as you say.
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Thanks for the comments everyone. I'm looking forward to hearing more about the Pixel XXL, hopefully it won't suffer from the pitfalls of the Pixel XL(from a Dev view).
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Thanks for the comments everyone. I'm looking forward to hearing more about the Pixel XXL, hopefully it won't suffer from the pitfalls of the Pixel XL(from a Dev view).
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It should basically be the same device with updated hardware specs and Android O. What pitfalls are you referring to? If it's the distribution channel then yes, that was a problem. But as for dev support that assumes the low inventory was the factor mitigating development. I don't believe it was. The device simply doesn't need root to function superbly. That's why I think most of us rooted our Nexus devices, battery life and performance. (well at least I did) Besides, the price was like $300 not $800. Ok, some of us can't live without Adaway or Titanium but you don't need a custom rom for that.
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Someone should make a poll of how many people who are experienced in rooting, unlocking, crack flashing (haven't heard that term in a while) etc. previous devices are now staying stock.
Rooted every device previously: But now..
1. Running Pixel / XL stock bl locked
2. Running Pixel / XL stock bl unlocked
3. Stock rooted
4. Custom rom
Might be interesting. My poll is number 1. The results might give you a clue as to why development is lighter for this device.
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That someone should be you, it was your idea I too am curious about the results. Up until Sunday I was a number 2 (rooted, though). I got bored and flashed a custom ROM but it was not necessary at all. You're correct when you say, this device functions damn near perfectly in its stock configuration. First Android phone I've ever used or owned that I can say that about.
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That someone should be you, it was your idea I too am curious about the results. Up until Sunday I was a number 2 (rooted, though). I got bored and flashed a custom ROM but it was not necessary at all. You're correct when you say, this device functions damn near perfectly in its stock configuration. First Android phone I've ever used or owned that I can say that about.
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Lol, I've never done a poll here but I guess it's not too hard. I'll give it a shot in a bit. I'll have to word it correctly as well. Thanks for the push.
I waaaaaaaaaant this phone, if it's Verizon compatible, works properly with their bands, AND is TWRP/Magisk-able, then this is finally the perfect phone I've been looking for since my old V10 died. (The HTC U11 was... until I found out the specs lied and it did not work with verizon)
So..... can I have the US unlocked LG710ULM, or one of the other models, fully working** on Verizon, rooted with recovery?
**fully working, meaning all VZW bands, no connectivity/call/sms issues, and ideally VoIP/VoWiFi
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I waaaaaaaaaant this phone, if it's Verizon compatible, works properly with their bands, AND is TWRP/Magisk-able, then this is finally the perfect phone I've been looking for since my old V10 died. (The HTC U11 was... until I found out the specs lied and it did not work with verizon)
So..... can I have the US unlocked LG710ULM, or one of the other models, fully working** on Verizon, rooted with recovery?
**fully working, meaning all VZW bands, no connectivity/call/sms issues, and ideally VoIP/VoWiFi
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In all fairness youre asking about a phone thats been released 3 days in the wild [emoji4]
LG makes it fairly clear the phone supports all bands in one device. Although not Verizon, I have full services running on ATT with VoLTE, WiFiCalling, HDVoice and VVM. Unlike my previous HTC devices where we had to spoof imei's to activate services, this one turned on like butter. Since VZW carries a G7, the ULM IMEI should activate all features on your plan.
We do not currently have bootloader unlocking on the ULM (yet), nor do we have TWRP for this version. There are not KDZ files to crossflash for this version that i know of.
As for root, oddly for myself its not as urgent as previous devices. The blaotware is almost non-existent and aside ad blocking and a few more convenient features, there isnt a mission critical need for me on this handset.
Ive not owned an LG before, looooonnnnggg time HTC guy. To me, this device is a much more refined user experience than HTC sense. A lot of things i would have rooted to fix dont need it on the G7. Honestly im a bit shocked. I dont like vanilla android but this LG UI is pretty good. Few sense features i miss like secure messaging, but i can totally live without them. The G7 hardware design is more thought through than HTC, its a remarkable, unremarkable phone. Oh and the display has to be the best LCD ive ever used IRL. 15w fast wireless charging is also a bonus.
TLR - very impressed with the phone. Full carrier services on ATT. UI is better than others. Too soon for root but hopeful for sometime in the near future.
Unless your use case absolutely requires root now, get the phone. I was hesitant but this has turned out to be the best phone ive ever owned.
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In all fairness youre asking about a phone thats been released 3 days in the wild [emoji4]
Unfortunately, being good on AT&T doesn't guarantee it'll be good on Verizon-- but it's hopeful. And I could have sworn I'd read it was released LAST month, been out a month or so by now
well, either way, I won't be able to get it until next month, anyways, so hopefully by then there'll be at least some indication someone's going to be rooting it.
Thanks!
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datafoo said:
In all fairness youre asking about a phone thats been released 3 days in the wild [emoji4]
Unfortunately, being good on AT&T doesn't guarantee it'll be good on Verizon-- but it's hopeful. And I could have sworn I'd read it was released LAST month, been out a month or so by now
well, either way, I won't be able to get it until next month, anyways, so hopefully by then there'll be at least some indication someone's going to be rooting it.
Thanks!
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The phone was released in early June but the ULM model didn't start shipping to anyone until July 11th, hence a couple of days. It has only been physically available for 3 days. Devs cant root what isnt available [emoji4]
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I also want to buy this version very much，but LG didn't add this device to the unlocked bootloader list.I am worried that this version does not support unlock bootloader.
datafoo said:
In all fairness youre asking about a phone thats been released 3 days in the wild [emoji4]
LG makes it fairly clear the phone supports all bands in one device. Although not Verizon, I have full services running on ATT with VoLTE, WiFiCalling, HDVoice and VVM. Unlike my previous HTC devices where we had to spoof imei's to activate services, this one turned on like butter. Since VZW carries a G7, the ULM IMEI should activate all features on your plan.
We do not currently have bootloader unlocking on the ULM (yet), nor do we have TWRP for this version. There are not KDZ files to crossflash for this version that i know of.
As for root, oddly for myself its not as urgent as previous devices. The blaotware is almost non-existent and aside ad blocking and a few more convenient features, there isnt a mission critical need for me on this handset.
Ive not owned an LG before, looooonnnnggg time HTC guy. To me, this device is a much more refined user experience than HTC sense. A lot of things i would have rooted to fix dont need it on the G7. Honestly im a bit shocked. I dont like vanilla android but this LG UI is pretty good. Few sense features i miss like secure messaging, but i can totally live without them. The G7 hardware design is more thought through than HTC, its a remarkable, unremarkable phone. Oh and the display has to be the best LCD ive ever used IRL. 15w fast wireless charging is also a bonus.
TLR - very impressed with the phone. Full carrier services on ATT. UI is better than others. Too soon for root but hopeful for sometime in the near future.
Unless your use case absolutely requires root now, get the phone. I was hesitant but this has turned out to be the best phone ive ever owned.
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Dude, thank you so much for this. I’ve been killing myself over buying this phone for a while now. I always root my phone to only: remove in app ads and from YouTube and remove useless bloatware. That’s literally why I’ve always rooted my phones. But now, this cleared it out a little. T-Mobile currently has a deal of get one and get the other one free. I’m gonna get two of them lol
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Dude, thank you so much for this. I’ve been killing myself over buying this phone for a while now. I always root my phone to only: remove in app ads and from YouTube and remove useless bloatware. That’s literally why I’ve always rooted my phones. But now, this cleared it out a little. T-Mobile currently has a deal of get one and get the other one free. I’m gonna get two of them lol
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BTW dns66 is a non root vpn app from fdroid that allows you to encrypt and choose your own dns server as well as ad blocking servers (because its rerouting only dns requests).
It is a lifesaver for adblocking and dns privacy. No root needed.
I went with substratum/andromedia/paid theme to clean up the LG look. Macrodroid with adb hack has given me back most of my automation. 3c toolbox allows me to backup apps/data without root but im sure there are other methods.
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datafoo said:
BTW dns66 is a non root vpn app from fdroid that allows you to encrypt and choose your own dns server as well as ad blocking servers (because its rerouting only dns requests).
It is a lifesaver for adblocking and dns privacy. No root needed.
I went with substratum/andromedia/paid theme to clean up the LG look. Macrodroid with adb hack has given me back most of my automation. 3c toolbox allows me to backup apps/data without root but im sure there are other methods.
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You know I’m gonna be DMing you soon, right? I wanna do whatever you did, but I’m a little rusty. I haven’t been in the forums for at least two years now. So be ready to guide an idiot through those things. Lmao
I’m getting those two phones TODAY. I’ve been using an iPhone and I’m about to have brain cancer. Finally pulling the trigger.
I'm also unfortunately stuck with Verizon as a carrier (work phone). I've been lucky to unlock all of my devices up to this point, but the current crop of phones it doesn't seem promising at all. I'm certainly not a flash-a-holic, but i do prefer to run custom roms and have full control over my device.
Came across this thread while doing research on the current offerings from Verizon and so far your post @datafoo is the most convincing to switch. I too have been an HTC guy for a while. I love my 10 running LeeDroid but the battery is finally starting to go. It's been a great work horse for the last 2 years though.
Just wanted to post and say thank you guys for your opinions on this phone. I'm going to poke around a bit more, but i think I'll be pulling the trigger later today. Really hope we do get unlocked boot loader at some point!!!
Void4ever
K-alz said:
You know I’m gonna be DMing you soon, right? I wanna do whatever you did, but I’m a little rusty. I haven’t been in the forums for at least two years now. So be ready to guide an idiot through those things. Lmao
I’m getting those two phones TODAY. I’ve been using an iPhone and I’m about to have brain cancer. Finally pulling the trigger.
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Although I paid too much as an early adopter, the ULM unlocked version is on sale everywhere it seems, I don't regret it at all.
Feel free to hit me up, I'm a little slow to respond at times simply due to workload but i'll respond as time permits.
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I'm also unfortunately stuck with Verizon as a carrier (work phone). I've been lucky to unlock all of my devices up to this point, but the current crop of phones it doesn't seem promising at all. I'm certainly not a flash-a-holic, but i do prefer to run custom roms and have full control over my device.
Came across this thread while doing research on the current offerings from Verizon and so far your post @datafoo is the most convincing to switch. I too have been an HTC guy for a while. I love my 10 running LeeDroid but the battery is finally starting to go. It's been a great work horse for the last 2 years though.
Just wanted to post and say thank you guys for your opinions on this phone. I'm going to poke around a bit more, but i think I'll be pulling the trigger later today. Really hope we do get unlocked boot loader at some point!!!
Void4ever
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I felt like I needed to root my HTCs. I still don't feel a hard need to do it on this device. I would really like to see the unlocked bootloader and magisk on here but it's just not as mission critical on this version. Carrier models may have more bloatware and need it more but the ULM is pretty trim as it is.
I do like the stability of a non-rooted phone. No random reboots, predictable battery life. Get the ULM version as it should have all the bands for VZW and most all the bands for everyone else in case you switched carriers.
I'm still really happy with mine. The most remarkable, unremarkable phone I've ever owned.
I'm guessing no change yet, and not rootable, still?
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I'm guessing no change yet, and not rootable, still?
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nope, not yet at least, we are working on options though
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nope, not yet at least, we are working on options though
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OK, now?? I ordered a VZW version last night. Hoping to be able to root it one day.
i have a verizon moto z2 play xt1710-02 and wanna root it but cant get the bootloader unlocker. i went throught the moto site put in the code and it said not unlockable, is there a way around this or? because i see stuff everywhere about it but nothing with solutions
Can not unlock the bootloader on a Verizon (xt1710-02) variant until someone comes up with a way. Doubt it as it's getting harder and harder with each new software/Verizon phones.
Sell it and use the money to buy a non carrier version
jessyjoseph2044 said:
i have a verizon moto z2 play xt1710-02 and wanna root it but cant get the bootloader unlocker. i went throught the moto site put in the code and it said not unlockable, is there a way around this or? because i see stuff everywhere about it but nothing with solutions
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Why did you buy a -02, when the -01 was not much more, especially if you wanted to root?
It's been a while since any VZW branded phone was rootable, with exception of the OG Pixel, which is on again, off again.
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Why did you buy a -02, when the -01 was not much more, especially if you wanted to root?
It's been a while since any VZW branded phone was rootable, with exception of the OG Pixel, which is on again, off again.
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While this is correct regarding Motorola website unlocked bootloader, prior to nougat, my Droid turbo (xt1254) and many older moto phones on Verizon were able to have the bootloader unlocked via sunshine devs at a price. However, the 1710-02 will likely not have any support from sunshine in lieu of lack of demand and its os being post 7.0.
Your best bet, if you want root, would be to sell it on swappa then buy a rootable phone.
So you can use use a -01 on Verizon? Just use my sim out of my Verizon Droid Turbo?
It is the new unlocked Z3 Play that is GSM only.
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So you can use use a -01 on Verizon? Just use my sim out of my Verizon Droid Turbo?
It is the new unlocked Z3 Play that is GSM only.
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I can't speak for the Z3. I thought it had CDMA.
The Moto Z2 Play (XT1710-01) has CDMA coverage and I and the wife are each using one on Verizon. Mine is rooted. Her's not.
My previous phone was a Moto X Pure Edition and her's was a Note 5. We just took the SIM out of the old phone and popped it into the Z2 and away we went, no issues.
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The Moto Z2 Play (XT1710-01) has CDMA coverage and I and the wife are each using one on Verizon. Mine is rooted. Her's not.
My previous phone was a Moto X Pure Edition and her's was a Note 5. We just took the SIM out of the old phone and popped it into the Z2 and away we went, no issues.
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Thanks.
I love my old rooted Droid Turbo with Lollipop, but there comes a time when we must move up. Just not sure if the Z2 Play is the one. Getting hard to find a Verizon you can root.
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Thanks.
I love my old rooted Droid Turbo with Lollipop, but there comes a time when we must move up. Just not sure if the Z2 Play is the one. Getting hard to find a Verizon you can root.
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I agree that it's difficult to find rootable phones that work on Verizon. Hopefully when big red dumps 2G, tons will get better.
I really like the Z2 Play! It does not heat up, like the X Pure. The battery lasts much longer and it's very thin and light. I use a Sleo snap case for the weekends and it's very thin, but adds grip to a slippery phone. For work, I use a Speck Presidio Grip case and it's still pretty thin.
There is not much development for the Z2, but I like the Moto Actions & Display, which you lose with most custom ROMs. TWRP and Xposed are good enough for me, along with being able to allow super user permission to apps.
I rooted as soon at I got it, in order to prevent Oreo.
Oreo was not going to add much and change the quick settings background to light grey. I cannot stand light / white backgrounds. That is one of the top three reasons for me to root.
The wife had an X4, for a couple months. We did not like that phone one but. It's small, fast and slippery. The camera app has severe startup lag. The OS takes up 13GB of the 32GB internal storage.
For me, 64GB internal is a minimum.
Because of the lack of development for this phone, I picked up a used OG Pixel XL, from swappa, to play with. It's fast and has a lot of development and you have the freedom to go backwards and towards with Android versions, because it's like a Nexus phone, but I just don't like it. The screen is not that great. It's really dim outside. The huge bezels are ugly, useless real-estate. And it turns out that I absolutely hate the fingerprint sensor to be on the back of the phone.
Oh, should I look for a Marshmallow or Nougat? Thanks for your help.
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Oh, should I look for a Marshmallow or Nougat? Thanks for your help.
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My wife's - 01 just got Oreo, last week. Perhaps you can find one that's still on Nougat.
The Moto X Pure Edition was supposed to get Nougat, but I don't know if it ever did.
The Nexus and Pixel phone can go back and forth or upgrade and downgrade, between Android versions. I had a 6P for a while. It was a good phone, but with the rear FP sensor and no Moto Actions or Display, I couldn't live with it.
For people stuck on the non rootable version there are a couple of things previously not possible on nonroot phones. You can sideload the github version of Netguard and block hosts (ads) and internet all together. You can also install Shizuku Manager and the correct version of App Ops for more granular permissions control.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=moe.shizuku.privileged.api
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rikka.appops
https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
I realize that the verizon variant cannot unlock the bootloader, however is the verizon model rootable at the very least?
There is no exploit for temporary root. The only recent advance on Verizon phones is that someone smart figured out how to unlock the bootloader on Verizon pixels again.
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There is no exploit for temporary root. The only recent advance on Verizon phones is that someone smart figured out how to unlock the bootloader on Verizon pixels again.
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Is there any current verizon phone that's rootable? Please forgive my ignorance. I'd been using a Moto X Pure for the last 3 years until it the charge port finally 'wore' out.
I got my first Android phone with verizon in 2010. I had it rooted that evening. The last 5 days have been my first ever, non-rooted experience :'(
The only phones sold by Verizon would be the pixel series as someone figured out the bootloader unlock. I'm not sure how long that will last but once unlocked it will always be rootable. The better way to go is buy a non carrier version of a phone that works on Verizon. For instance, the Google play version of a pixel, a Moto phone bought from Motorola that is unlockable like the Z or G series and probably developer versions of Samsung phones. They all work on Verizon. Simply insert an activated Verizon Sim. These days the question is not whether it can be rooted but whether the bootloader can be unlocked as that is the only path to root. Look for that.
Here's an Idea: VZ will Only Unlock Bootloader if People Really Want it
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Can not unlock the bootloader on a Verizon (xt1710-02) variant until someone comes up with a way. Doubt it as it's getting harder and harder with each new software/Verizon phones.
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The majority of the people who visit this forum and others like it are technology influencers with a much stronger voice than you realize. Verizon or any other business will listen if each of you go out of your way to let those in your social networks know that locked phones are worth(less) than unlocked phones. A locked phone might be compared to a leasing/renting a car vs. owning it, except that with mobile devices, this difference isn't made crystal clear to the buyer.
Mobile devices are advanced enough now that many could be repurposed if they were unlocked. However, that would mean that people who have less of a reason to "buy" (or should I say rent/lease?) as frequently. Being able to freely unlock devices may be bad for corporate profits, but it is good for innovation, the environment, personal privacy, and transparency.
Let's face it, we're dealing with a bully and just as people from other industries make an effort to spread the word about things you're not being told (Monsanto, Big pharma, etc.), so too should people in the tech industry do the same, yet it seems like we are re-living high school again where the tech nerd geniuses let themselves get bullied into silence by the seemingly stronger tyrant whose bad ideas rarely get opposed in a way that makes a difference.
Am looking to buy an unlocked Pixel 6 Pro directly from the Google Store. I was wondering if all system and security updates will come to the phone directly from Google instead of from the carrier I choose, eg T-Mobile.
they come from google
skimminstones said:
they come from google
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Good to know. Thanks.
I'm sorry but
In fairness, I "think" Google also do the updates for all the carrier variations as well so either way you're good and will get timely updates no matter which Pixel 6 Pro you get.
Shipoftheline said:
I'm sorry but
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Not sure what was so funny about that. I currently have an unlocked Note 20 Ultra on T-Mobile and hadn't received any security updates from June through September while other carriers had apparently sent updates during that time. My understanding is that Google is more timely in sending out updates to phones they sell vs. carriers, but I just wanted to confirm that before buying since I've never owned a Google branded phone before.
All the updates come from google, and once in a while they will release slightly different versions for carriers around the world, I believe this is only the modem software, i know in the past that verizon also had some bootloader unlocking blocks as well which took longer for people to get root
Yep, Google is boss of the applesauce!
IamSirius said:
Not sure what was so funny about that. I currently have an unlocked Note 20 Ultra on T-Mobile and hadn't received any security updates from June through September while other carriers had apparently sent updates during that time. My understanding is that Google is more timely in sending out updates to phones they sell vs. carriers, but I just wanted to confirm that before buying since I've never owned a Google branded phone before.
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Its a Google made phone and a Google operating system so come on be serous who do you think do the updates, Santa's helpers?
Google releases the updates, even though there were - as far as I remember - two instances in the past when Google released a certain update for certain carriers slightly later than compared to the other ones, even though we are only talking about hours, couple days max.
Shipoftheline said:
Its a Google made phone and a Google operating system so come on be serous who do you think do the updates, Santa's helpers?
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no question is silly if you dont know the answer
Shipoftheline said:
Its a Google made phone and a Google operating system so come on be serous who do you think do the updates, Santa's helpers?
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Like I said, I've never owned a Google phone purchased directly from Google. My current phone is unlocked with Google's OS and the updates come from T-Mobile AFAIK, which has recently been slow in rolling out their updates, so yes, I wanted to be sure about that before I spend my hard earned $900. Don't know why you had to mock my question. Everyone else who responded here was helpful and kind.