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Did the Pixel XL not take off as well as the Nexus 6P?

Just wondering how the Pixel XL did against the Nexus 6P?
I'm looking to upgrade to the S8+, but now I'm thinking to wait for the Pixel XXL.

It did better overall but we don't know how much since Google doesn't reveal. Also issues with availability did not help.
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The fact they could not keep stock of the 128Gig model, I think they under estimated demand.
Still love the Pixel XL even though new phones have been replaced.

I believe it sold a lot better because of how much they marketed it and it was being pushed by Verizon who has the most subscribers. I don't think they've published actual numbers to support this, but they definitely sold more units.

In just terms of development Nexus wins hands down.

Taebom said:
In just terms of development Nexus wins hands down.
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True.
Even the Nexus 5X has far more development.

Taebom said:
In just terms of development Nexus wins hands down.
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Agree, also the 5x and 6p were loaded for bear. As for the Pixel / XL I believe (my beliefs only don't go flaming) the slots for flashing are causing issues for those not totally familiar with the proper commands, monthly updates breaking twrp and root, SafetyNet breaking with each update, Verizon locking their bootloaders and the biggest.. The phone works great without a custom rom or kernel.
So if you desperately need root then I believe a lot of people are simply rooting stock so they can use ad blocking or feel they have total control over their device. (until they brick it but that's another discussion) I've really never seen so many experienced rooters and users here running stock. I wouldn't even unlock the bootloader (well I can't with Verizon) even though I wouldn't mind having the ability to do so for the future. So why would the devs spend time making a custom rom when there are limited users willing to use it?
Someone should make a poll of how many people who are experienced in rooting, unlocking, crack flashing (haven't heard that term in a while) etc. previous devices are now staying stock.
Rooted every device previously: But now..
1. Running Pixel / XL stock bl locked
2. Running Pixel / XL stock bl unlocked
3. Stock rooted
4. Custom rom
Might be interesting. My poll is number 1. The results might give you a clue as to why development is lighter for this device.

They still can't keep up with the demand 6 months later, that should answer the question

bobby janow said:
Agree, also the 5x and 6p were loaded for bear. As for the Pixel / XL I believe (my beliefs only don't go flaming) the slots for flashing are causing issues for those not totally familiar with the proper commands, monthly updates breaking twrp and root, SafetyNet breaking with each update, Verizon locking their bootloaders and the biggest.. The phone works great without a custom rom or kernel.
So if you desperately need root then I believe a lot of people are simply rooting stock so they can use ad blocking or feel they have total control over their device. (until they brick it but that's another discussion) I've really never seen so many experienced rooters and users here running stock. I wouldn't even unlock the bootloader (well I can't with Verizon) even though I wouldn't mind having the ability to do so for the future. So why would the devs spend time making a custom rom when there are limited users willing to use it?
Someone should make a poll of how many people who are experienced in rooting, unlocking, crack flashing (haven't heard that term in a while) etc. previous devices are now staying stock.
Rooted every device previously: But now..
1. Running Pixel / XL stock bl locked
2. Running Pixel / XL stock bl unlocked
3. Stock rooted
4. Custom rom
Might be interesting. My poll is number 1. The results might give you a clue as to why development is lighter for this device.
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Too expensive phone less people buy it less donations less development.
HTC the most expensive phones with no reasons 200 euro more with same specs like others.

Shipoftheline said:
They still can't keep up with the demand 6 months later, that should answer the question
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Is it really large demand or just really short supply. Google has done this with every phone since the Nexus 4. They have never had enough supply.

Soon will be almost 1 year and no even stable recovery what else to talk about this phone will be soon dead from development.Poor Google your how to say development phones dying.

veskostoev said:
Soon will be almost 1 year and no even stable recovery what else to talk about this phone will be soon dead from development.Poor Google your how to say development phones dying.
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Good point. Do you think Google cares about devolpment any longer? Or was this a test of how they can now make a great phone that people want who don't care about root? Thus the high cost. I think dev is basically over as you say.
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Thanks for the comments everyone. I'm looking forward to hearing more about the Pixel XXL, hopefully it won't suffer from the pitfalls of the Pixel XL(from a Dev view).

vinokirk said:
Thanks for the comments everyone. I'm looking forward to hearing more about the Pixel XXL, hopefully it won't suffer from the pitfalls of the Pixel XL(from a Dev view).
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It should basically be the same device with updated hardware specs and Android O. What pitfalls are you referring to? If it's the distribution channel then yes, that was a problem. But as for dev support that assumes the low inventory was the factor mitigating development. I don't believe it was. The device simply doesn't need root to function superbly. That's why I think most of us rooted our Nexus devices, battery life and performance. (well at least I did) Besides, the price was like $300 not $800. Ok, some of us can't live without Adaway or Titanium but you don't need a custom rom for that.

bobby janow said:
Someone should make a poll of how many people who are experienced in rooting, unlocking, crack flashing (haven't heard that term in a while) etc. previous devices are now staying stock.
Rooted every device previously: But now..
1. Running Pixel / XL stock bl locked
2. Running Pixel / XL stock bl unlocked
3. Stock rooted
4. Custom rom
Might be interesting. My poll is number 1. The results might give you a clue as to why development is lighter for this device.
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That someone should be you, it was your idea I too am curious about the results. Up until Sunday I was a number 2 (rooted, though). I got bored and flashed a custom ROM but it was not necessary at all. You're correct when you say, this device functions damn near perfectly in its stock configuration. First Android phone I've ever used or owned that I can say that about.

Alcolawl said:
That someone should be you, it was your idea I too am curious about the results. Up until Sunday I was a number 2 (rooted, though). I got bored and flashed a custom ROM but it was not necessary at all. You're correct when you say, this device functions damn near perfectly in its stock configuration. First Android phone I've ever used or owned that I can say that about.
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Lol, I've never done a poll here but I guess it's not too hard. I'll give it a shot in a bit. I'll have to word it correctly as well. Thanks for the push.

Worth the RMA?

Hey everyone. Simple questions. First, is the Pixel XL worth upgrading to from the Nexus 6P with the RMA that is being done right now? Second, where is all the development? Was the Pixel XL tough to begin development for or did not many devs take to it? I run RR now but used PN before it for a while (amongst others). I see PN exists here too but not a lot of other ROMs, unless I'm missing them.
Anyway, the short of it is this. Is it worth taking the upgrade instead of a refurbished and is there enough active development for someone that enjoys flashing and trying things?
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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It's an expensive device. That's one barrier for active development.
The new a/b update. That's another problem.
Take the upgrade. Sell it, buy something else. Like the oneplus

wgrant said:
Hey everyone. Simple questions. First, is the Pixel XL worth upgrading to from the Nexus 6P with the RMA that is being done right now? Second, where is all the development? Was the Pixel XL tough to begin development for or did not many devs take to it? I run RR now but used PN before it for a while (amongst others). I see PN exists here too but not a lot of other ROMs, unless I'm missing them.
Anyway, the short of it is this. Is it worth taking the upgrade instead of a refurbished and is there enough active development for someone that enjoys flashing and trying things?
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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Definitely a matter of opinion and preference. I know the seemingly lack of development is in part because a lot of teams I assume are either working on an Oreo rebase or waiting for the Pixel 2 perhaps? The other reason is the dual-partitions / A-B slots which is why there's been issues with TWRP and GAPPS I believe. It does seem like there's a lot of the same ROMs available as the 6P, just 7.1.2 instead of 8.0.
just got my replacement Pixel XL last week and I had run RR on my 6P for the longest time, but shortly before returning it I had been using Oreo with just a handful of mods, so switching to the XL and doing the same wasn't too drastic a change. The screen being smaller is hardly noticeable to me. The dual front-facing speakers are missed, but the phone being way more responsive and smooth is a fair trade off for me since I didn't listen to music too often through the speakers.
If you do like to hop around from ROM to ROM a lot this phone might leave a little to be desired, but if you plan on just using Oreo with some mods (check out the themes and apps section, I'm using the Aroma installer mods by Tulsadiver) then you will probably be content. Honestly, I plan on trying to sell it on Swappa shortly after the Pixel 2 XL comes out so I wasn't too worried about the amount of ROM choices and was glad to get the free upgrade even if just for a month or two till I get the Pixel 2 XL.

I'd take the RMA if for no other reason than the Pixel is a far superior device. If you really have a need to constantly flash and try things then it may not be the best device for you. If you want the best experience Android has to offer out of the box, then look no further than the Pixel.

I certainly don't HAVE to jump from ROM to ROM but the option from time to time would be nice. I have been interested in Oreo but haven't tried it yet on 6P. Is rooting difficult for the Pixel XL? I haven't heard about the A/B slot thing, I'll have to do more research tomorrow. Thanks guys!
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wgrant said:
I certainly don't HAVE to jump from ROM to ROM but the option from time to time would be nice. I have been interested in Oreo but haven't tried it yet on 6P. Is rooting difficult for the Pixel XL? I haven't heard about the A/B slot thing, I'll have to do more research tomorrow. Thanks guys!
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I'm sure here soon there will be more ROM options once everyone gets Oreo up and running and gets the kinks worked out. And rooting and unlocking isn't really difficult, but a different experience from the 6P that's for sure. One downside to Oreo right now is that there's no officially supported TWRP aside from a bootable version you have to use fastboot / bootloader to get into it. So depending on how often you're around a computer, that may or may not be an issue. Supposedly some people have the RC1 or RC2 versions of TWRP working so you don't need the PC, but it takes 10-15+ minutes for it to reboot into recovery. Haven't tried for myself though.

if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week

TheAtheistOtaku said:
if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week
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Well that's just if you're out of warranty they direct you to Huawei (brick wall) so that they can hang up on you

Does that also count for Project Fi customers? You would think they would want to make them happy.
I was lucky. I got my RMA in last Friday and got my Pixel XL 128g phone today. Totally worth it. No more battery issues and it just looks better.

desdecardo said:
Does that also count for Project Fi customers? You would think they would want to make them happy.
I was lucky. I got my RMA in last Friday and got my Pixel XL 128g phone today. Totally worth it. No more battery issues and it just looks better.
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Pretty sure it's everyone out of the warranty period whether you got it from the Google store or Fi. I got mine last week, contacted them Sun night, and since I still was within the warranty (bought it Nov 2016) and had Nexus Protect on the device it was next day shipping and didn't even have to pay the deductible. I do miss the 6P, but the Pixel is smooth as silk. :good:

I've already been approved for the replacement with a 128GB black Pixel XL, I just haven't processed the order yet. Coming up with the 870 to put on hold is the tough part. I'm pretty sure the replacements stopped for out of warranty units too, not ones still covered. The rep tools me they have almost no refurbished units to use as replacements. I think I might pull the trigger and do the replacement to avoid complete failure on the 6P. It's a shame because I LOVE the 6P.
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It's so much better I'm not going to bother getting the note 8 or the v30. Makes the 6p seem older than it was. The SD 810 really was a dog. Better photos, which is nuts, much better battery life, all the little parts of the pixel experience, better build quality. Holding out to see what the s9 brings to the table
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I appreciate all the input everyone, thank you. Now to find a way to put 870+ on hold for a while lol. That's the real dilemma.
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wgrant said:
I appreciate all the input everyone, thank you. Now to find a way to put 870+ on hold for a while lol. That's the real dilemma.
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Do you have a credit card? I contacted Google two days ago due to my 6p battery turning into a potato. They hooked me up with a pixel XL which is on the way.
I used my credit card to put the 800 dollar hold on.

Pain-N-Panic said:
Do you have a credit card? I contacted Google two days ago due to my 6p battery turning into a potato. They hooked me up with a pixel XL which is on the way.
I used my credit card to put the 800 dollar hold on.
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I have one but not with the available balance needed. I wish I could figure out a way but it looks like I'm gonna miss the opportunity to replace my phone at this point.
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wgrant said:
I have one but not with the available balance needed. I wish I could figure out a way but it looks like I'm gonna miss the opportunity to replace my phone at this point.
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Ask them if you can send your phone first.
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murso74 said:
Ask them if you can send your phone first.
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That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)

Pain-N-Panic said:
That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)
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He can print the shipping label, that's how they do the exchange anyway. Google's pretty good at working with people. Tell them your problem. Worst thing that happens is that you're out a phone for a few days
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Pain-N-Panic said:
That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)
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Tried that and they won't. Talked to 2 different reps too. I have my old note 4 I can fall back on for a few days while I wait if I can get them to do it that way. I'll try again tomorrow.
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week
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No, that's just one guy on Reddit who was told no over chat. I used the telephone support on Sunday because my Nexus 6P went into bootloop and they had to "ask the next level support" if they could "give me a warranty exception" but I shipped my Nexus 6P 64 out Sunday and my Pixel XL 128 will be here tomorrow. There were a few others in the Reddit thread who also successfully got a replacement after this supposed "ending" of RMAs.

When should we expect to see Oreo Roms?

Sorry if this has been asked already, but like I asked, when should we start to see Oreo ROMs?

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Sorry if this has been asked already, but like I asked, when should we start to see Oreo ROMs?
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Don't ask for ETAs.
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What's wrong with stock?
Aftermarket ROMs seem to introduce more problems than they fix, for the past 4 phones
I finally learned my lesson with the Nexus 6 and stuck with stock and a custom kernel. Xposed will be along and there is no reason for a ROM.
Substratum, ✓
Root, ✓
Android Pay/Netflix, ✓
Boot Animation change, ✓
Custom Kernel, ✓
Xposed, soon[emoji769]
What are the other reasons you possibly want to taint a great phone?
T.
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Some people enjoy the the mods that come with custom ROMs. Since the Nexus 5 I've been a huge fan of the contents by the team over at Dirty Unicorns puts out. Wouldn't mind trying out a DU Oreo rom if it ever happened.

XDA members usually like to flash...

galaxys said:
XDA members usually like to flash...
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Yep. If I recall from many years ago when creating an account on xda there was a check box you were required to check acknowledging that expected behavior.

Are any developers currently working on Oreo, or is this phone development dead?

dcillusions77 said:
Are any developers currently working on Oreo, or is this phone development dead?
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DU, Pure Nexus are working on Oreo if you know of any other roms that support this device check their source you'll see branches for 8.0

I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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localceleb said:
Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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My guess price this phone was super over priced compared to some of the other offerings in Android. Mid range is catching some great devices out there for little money

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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I'm staying on Nougat. Working TWRP recovery, running DU, and Franco Kernel. Seems like for me at least when I was on Oreo couldn't get the recovery to stick which was annoying. Went back to Nougat and all is well. Just have to wait for the Oreo's to start dropping.

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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I'm using a moto-x pure now so I hadn't payed any attention to the Pixel/PixelXL development scene at all. I pre ordered a Pixel 2 XL last night which made me go check out development on the Pixel XL out of curiosity. From what I gathered after some research last night it seems the 2016 pixels have a "non standard" way of handling updates. Apparently there are 2 partitions/slots for system/vendor (slot A and B). I'm not going into details what this means, but the short version is that it made things more difficult for custom recoveries to deal with. Even with all the right parts in place flashing a ROM/GAPPS/Root means taking extra steps that every other devices I've ever dealt with didn't need. Nothing major... just extra steps.
Like I said, that's a VERY basic explanation of the situation. Maybe somebody else is willing to go into more detail, but that's the gist of it. It does look to me though that the most popular ROMs have either an official or unofficial build available.
There's also something to be said about the state of "official android" now, which these phones run. At least to me there is significantly less reason to need/want a custom ROM now compared to just 2 years ago. Now that "official android" has themes capability via OMS and a lot of customization options there is not a whole lot I personally want anymore. My biggest thing is "long back press to kill" which can be had with an app if necessary, "advanced restart" menu and of course root.
I think if the only thing I can't have while sticking with the official builds is the "advanced restart" menu then I can deal with it, I can run terminal commands to achieve the same thing. I can imagine the Pixel 2 XL being my first android phone that I finally stick with the "official builds" + root for the life of the phone. I'm sure I'll end up playing with ROMs once they become available but I don't know if it will be much more than playing around... I've always used ROMs mostly to get the "stock android experience" because I like it.. but since this phone comes with it and will get VERY TIMELY android updates I can definitely see myself sticking with what's official and no ROMS. I ALMOST did it with my Moto X Pure.. moto's official builds were damn near AOSP and I used them until it became apparent that I could't rely of them for OS updates post Lenovo buying Motorola.

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I can. The problem is with the dual slots. Pixel Dust was able to finally make a Oreo Rom for both Pixel and Pixel XL, however root is not possible yet. My suggestion if you want to be flash happy is to stay away from Google phones because from here on out they will all have dual slots.
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I'm staying on Nougat. Working TWRP recovery, running DU, and Franco Kernel. Seems like for me at least when I was on Oreo couldn't get the recovery to stick which was annoying. Went back to Nougat and all is well. Just have to wait for the Oreo's to start dropping.
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There was actually a updated twrp recovery this month and it sticks with Oreo now. Problem is that there is only one custom Rom for Oreo and currently root is not possible. That's with Pixel Dust Rom.

Magisk support

This is probably premature, but what are the chances Magisk will support the 2XL? I see support for the v1 Pixels was announced recently. You think it'd be feasible to use the existing Magisk version when my 2XL arrives?

don't flash anything
until they confirm it works
the pixel has Extra things that other phones don't the dual boot partition and some add security
but the pixel 2 have them
so i guess that dev may work on them faster than before

Yeah- That's what I expected. I wasn't about to do anything stupid until there's some consensus that it'll work properly.

Yeah, I'm hoping that since devs have had a year to try to work with the a/b partitions and extra security elements, things will be quickly adapted to the Pixel 2. On the other hand, I was really surprised to discover that after a year there is no official Lineage OS for the Pixel 1, root is still kind of complicated, and using TWRP also has extra complications and issues; that doesn't bode so well for the Pixel 2.

cb474 said:
Yeah, I'm hoping that since devs have had a year to try to work with the a/b partitions and extra security elements, things will be quickly adapted to the Pixel 2. On the other hand, I was really surprised to discover that after a year there is no official Lineage OS for the Pixel 1, root is still kind of complicated, and using TWRP also has extra complications and issues; that doesn't bode so well for the Pixel 2.
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I read that it only took so long because John couldn't get a Pixel in his hands until recently. Once he got it, it took him merely days to get things up and running.

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I read that it only took so long because John couldn't get a Pixel in his hands until recently. Once he got it, it took him merely days to get things up and running.
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Are you talking about for root or TWRP or Lineage or Magisk? Which dev is John?

I'm sure it'll work on the Pixel 2 phones eventually. It would speed up the process if someone actually donated a Pixel 2 to the dev to work with.

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Are you talking about for root or TWRP or Lineage or Magisk? Which dev is John?
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Magisk. Gotta know the great topjohnwu =D

Flashaholic Withdrawals

I check XDA at least 10 times a day hoping there will be something new to flash lol I can't be the only one who does this. I find myself venturing off into the OnePlus 5 forum from time to time just to look at all the development that's going on in there. Salivating and I'm tempted to purchase the OnePlus 5t but I love the Pixel 2 xl. Tuff choices

mackentosh said:
I check XDA at least 10 times a day hoping there will be something new to flash lol I can't be the only one who does this. I find myself venturing off into the OnePlus 5 forum from time to time just to look at all the development that's going on in there. Salivating and I'm tempted to purchase the OnePlus 5t but I love the Pixel 2 xl. Tuff choices
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I find myself checking xda, but mostly the Q&A and discussion threads. I'd probably sell my old 128 GB XL and buy a 5t if it had universal radios like the Pixel since I'm on Verizon. The 2 XL would likely remain my daily driver, mainly because of the fantastic camera which it seems OnePlus can't compare to.

Once you use the pixel 2 camera nothing else is good enough. I had the pixel 2 but sold it, purchased a 5t, and then turned around and sold it 36 hours in for the pixel 2 XL. I couldn't settle without this camera experience.

I'll stay with my Pixel XL 2 flagship! But hey, go for the 5T if that's your buzz...

Does op5t have Android oreo?
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t2jbird said:
Once you use the pixel 2 camera nothing else is good enough. I had the pixel 2 but sold it, purchased a 5t, and then turned around and sold it 36 hours in for the pixel 2 XL. I couldn't settle without this camera experience.
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I had the same experience but with huawei mate 10 pro,sell it after 24 hours and got back my pixel 2 xl.

I'm in the same crack-flash-aholic boat
Now that I have TWRP, cust kernel, and root on my 2 XL, I'm waiting for Roms.
I'm not interested in the DP versions, so just watching development continue to move forward.
This is the first device I've had in hand prior to any development. It's very cool watching things grow and seeing all the talent, and creativity getting things working (kernels, TWRP, root, etc).
Kudos to everyone involved in getting the development gears turning!

Az Biker said:
I'm in the same crack-flash-aholic boat
Now that I have TWRP, cust kernel, and root on my 2 XL, I'm waiting for Roms.
I'm not interested in the DP versions, so just watching development continue to move forward.
This is the first device I've had in hand prior to any development. It's very cool watching things grow and seeing all the talent, and creativity getting things working (kernels, TWRP, root, etc).
Kudos to everyone involved in getting the development gears turning!
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Dang AZ, ease up on the crack flashing, and just ride that chopper for a while! :good:

gm007 said:
Does op5t have Android oreo?
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I had the same experience but with huawei mate 10 pro,sell it after 24 hours and got back my pixel 2 xl.
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No, Oreo yet. Beta coming this month.

t2jbird said:
No, Oreo yet. Beta coming this month.
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I know,i just referring that the development here is slow cause oreo is a new os and op5t has nougat only for now.

I haven't compiled AOSP from source since Gingerbread, but man...the temptation to try it just to see if it works (and to have something to flash/play with) is getting harder to resist.
Not even sure I could remember how to do it at this point, it's been so long.

I was thinking about this yesterday ironically. I used to flash ROMs a lot back on the Samsung line. Once I got the Pixel XL and XL2 I havent touched either. The stock setup is honestly great as it is. Part of me misses flashing, but like the stability and performance of the Google stock builds. I might be giving up a little with custom kernals but have been completely satisfied with both stock phones.

iceman4357 said:
I was thinking about this yesterday ironically. I used to flash ROMs a lot back on the Samsung line. Once I got the Pixel XL and XL2 I havent touched either. The stock setup is honestly great as it is. Part of me misses flashing, but like the stability and performance of the Google stock builds. I might be giving up a little with custom kernals but have been completely satisfied with both stock phones.
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I tend to feel the same way about the Pixel line. I flashed a few ROMs on the original XL but stability and performance was never quite up to par with stock. I gave up and have been using stock for about about 10 months now.

Hola
Indeed do I miss my flashing. I have a OP5 that I will be selling soon since I have received my P2XL. As many have mentioned the OnePlus series of phones have become what the original Nexus line was in terms of community affordability and development.
If I can get Pure Nexus on my P2XL then it would be sufficient for me in all honesty, provides the stability and yet extending the functionality and customizations we all crave for. I understand that Nate‏ @BeansTown106 is caught up with some personal stuff and I'm not sure how or if any new development is in the works. This is one of the absolute best custom ROMs one could use. But us users can only wait and see...

This sounds like some sort of AA Thread lol. I also miss flashing. The need for custom ROMS is definitely dwindling though. I am usually okay with a custom kernel and substratum at this point

Stock rooted works fine for me. I do miss the following:
Back to kill app
Volume button to change track
Everything else I'm able to do to my liking.
Adaway works
Magisk works
Substrate works
And little other stock customizations work.
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matt1313 said:
Stock rooted works fine for me. I do miss the following:
Back to kill app
Volume button to change track
Everything else I'm able to do to my liking.
Adaway works
Magisk works
Substrate works
And little other stock customizations work.
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This is the longest I've had any Android device without routing, and I miss only one thing, back to kill.
AdGuard works perfectly, and I'm about to try Substratum, just need to see how to do it.

Sorry all, I have been using custom roms for a long time, I really don't know what goes into making one, so I apologize for my ignorance. I would think that by now there would be some custom roms for this device. Is it normal to take this amount of time to get a Google phone custom roms?thx in advance.

Bigboifrank said:
Sorry all, I have been using custom roms for a long time, I really don't know what goes into making one, so I apologize for my ignorance. I would think that by now there would be some custom roms for this device. Is it normal to take this amount of time to get a Google phone custom roms?thx in advance.
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I'm wondering this as well. I thought it was because of the new display ratio, but those have been out for a while now, AND I was looking around the OP5T forums (because I just got one), and even that has some ROMs posted (though they're kinda alpha-ish), and it came out like a month later. I didn't see a single Pixel 2 XL ROM (and I was so confused I thought I was just somehow missing something).

I check XDA twice a day praying that I'll see Elemental Kernel show up.

gettingerr said:
I check XDA twice a day praying that I'll see Elemental Kernel show up.
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Flar2 stated in the nexus 6p forum that it was coming latter this week! :good::good: