I don't use protectors or cases, just a slim Spiggen sometimes when working outside , but kept the Samsung screen protector on when the phone arrived as it's been so well applied.
Anyway, took it off today and wow the screen is marvellous. Silky smooth finger print improved as well. Makes using the phone so much nicer. Take it off I say .
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I wish I could, but I can't enjoy a device if I know that I'm going to scratch it. It seems that no matter how careful I am, I always get a big scratch in the screen if I don't use a screen protector.
Do you not get screen scratches, or do they not bother you?
Neither, depends what you call a scratch .
I certainly do not obsess about tiny marks you can only see when screen is off.
I can't fathom why anyone would spend a fortune on a phone and not enjoy the full user experience created by the designers
This screen is just a joy.
I avoid putting my phone in a pocket with anything else else.
Modern gorilla glass is so good now so many owners haven't caught up, they keep these phones encased in massive cases
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Neither, depends what you call a scratch .
I certainly do not obsess about tiny marks you can only see when screen is off.
I can't fathom why anyone would spend a fortune on a phone and not enjoy the full user experience created by the designers
This screen is just a joy.
I avoid putting my phone in a pocket with anything else else.
Modern gorilla glass is so good now so many owners haven't caught up, they keep these phones encased in massive cases
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Screen protectors really do take away from the feel and design of the phone. How much of a difference did it make with the fingerprint sensor? I know you said it helped, but is it night and day? You may end up talking me into removing my protector.
lyall29 said:
I wish I could, but I can't enjoy a device if I know that I'm going to scratch it. It seems that no matter how careful I am, I always get a big scratch in the screen if I don't use a screen protector.
Do you not get screen scratches, or do they not bother you?
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I took mine off and I will tell you this anything that's going to scratch your screen is going to go through the pre-installed "screen protector" it is such a thin piece of plastic it's not funny.
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I always put the plastic that comes on my phone in the box and I just checked and it's the exact same material that was on the back of the phone when it first came out of the box.
lyall29 said:
Screen protectors really do take away from the feel and design of the phone. How much of a difference did it make with the fingerprint sensor? I know you said it helped, but is it night and day? You may end up talking me into removing my protector.
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It's not night and day, but definitely faster
Once the protector is of and you feel the screen for the first time you'll be hooked instantly
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I'm going to take mine off. I've never used them before!
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It's not night and day, but definitely faster
Once the protector is of and you feel the screen for the first time you'll be hooked instantly
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Thanks, I'll take mine off too. It's high time I get over my fear of scratches. Like you said, why pay so much for a device and not enjoy it.
Davey Dual Sim said:
Neither, depends what you call a scratch .
I certainly do not obsess about tiny marks you can only see when screen is off.
I can't fathom why anyone would spend a fortune on a phone and not enjoy the full user experience created by the designers
This screen is just a joy.
I avoid putting my phone in a pocket with anything else else.
Modern gorilla glass is so good now so many owners haven't caught up, they keep these phones encased in massive cases
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That's what I keep telling to a friend who doubled the width of his S8 with a glass screen protector combined to a bold heavy case... ?
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That's what I keep telling to a friend who doubled the width of his S8 with a glass screen protector combined to a bold heavy case... [emoji57]
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I go in and out of building sites for a job and dont even do that, although I have a slim Spiggen to protect against accidental drops (I'm pretty good catching phones on my foot )
I think many people haven't caught up with how fought the latest gorilla glass is
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I'm going to take mine off. I've never used them before!
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glad to see you around galaxy
No need to take it off if it's invisible, protects from unavoidable scratches and doesn't feel bad, plus it allows you to sell it for a much higher price later.
I don't see the point of this thread, that's like saying you don't enjoy sex without a condom while completely ignoring the high risk-insignificant reward side of the story.
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Hey bro, it has been a while crisscrossing the XDA boards. Hope all's well with you...
I definitely noticed the increased color vibrancy when I took off the stock screen protector. The improvement on the fingerprint scanner was quite noticeable in my case. With the stock protector, I was getting print recognition every 6 out of 10. With it off, it's pretty much recognized everyone unless I miss the spot.
Of course like many who would be paranoid about scratching the screen, I tried the Ringke Dual Easy and found it to be actually much better than the stock protector. The surface is slick to the touch and fingerprints were read just the same as the naked glass.
So yeah, in my case the stock protector did affect the accuracy of my FPS.
BTW, one of the best methods to increase read accuracy I found was to do a few scans with the lightest touch possible, essentially providing good image without too much deformity (that would be my guess), and will allow unlocking with a quick light touch.
Corv0 said:
No need to take it off if it's invisible, protects from unavoidable scratches and doesn't feel bad, plus it allows you to sell it for a much higher price later.
I don't see the point of this thread, that's like saying you don't enjoy sex without a condom while completely ignoring the high risk-insignificant reward side of the story.
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So you're telling me that thin piece of plastic is stronger and more scratch resistant than Gorilla Glass 6?
Anything that is going to actually scratch the screen is going to go through the thin piece of plastic that is applied.
If somebody wants to leave it on that is their prerogative but it is not going to stop anything that will scratch Gorilla Glass 6.
The pre-installed screen protector is the exact same material that was on the back of the phone when it came out of the box.
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So you're telling me that thin piece of plastic is stronger and more scratch resistant than Gorilla Glass 6?
Anything that is going to actually scratch the screen is going to go through the thin piece of plastic that is applied.
If somebody wants to leave it on that is their prerogative but it is not going to stop anything that will scratch Gorilla Glass 6.
The pre-installed screen protector is the exact same material that was on the back of the phone when it came out of the box.
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No, not stronger, but it won't allow scratches get to your screen and once your protector starts to degrade you can get a new one for a few coins, broke the screen because you had cold hands and it slipped? £300.
Gorilla Glass 6 is just glass, it scratches like glass at the same exact hardness, don't make a big deal about it.
The only improvements it comes with are flexibility and strength while very thin, everything else is the same as standard glass.
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No, not stronger, but it won't allow scratches get to your screen and once your protector starts to degrade you can get a new one for a few coins, broke the screen because you had cold hands and it slipped? £300.
Gorilla Glass 6 is just glass, it scratches like glass at the same exact hardness, don't make a big deal about it.
The only improvements it comes with are flexibility and strength while very thin, everything else is the same as standard glass.
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Ok first off the pre-installed "screen protector" is going to do NOTHING if you drop your phone. So if your hands are cold, your phone slips and the screen breaks it's going to happen with or without the pre-installed "screen protector". A tempered glass one might help in this situation but not the plastic film that ships on the phone.
Second, Gorilla Glass 6 does not scratch like standard glass. Glass on the Mohs hardness scale is 5-5.5 while Gorilla Glass 6 is 6.5, actually a big difference.
Now the pre-installed PET (Polyethylene terephthalate) "screen protector" has a Mohs hardness of 1, yes 1. So something with a Mohs hardness scale of 1 is protecting something that is 6.5 on the same scale? That makes ZERO sense. Any scratches you might end up seeing on it would not have scratched the actual screen.
Science is your friend.
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Ok first off the pre-installed "screen protector" is going to do NOTHING if you drop your phone. So if your hands are cold, your phone slips and the screen breaks it's going to happen with or without the pre-installed "screen protector". A tempered glass one might help in this situation but not the plastic film that ships on the phone.
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It's always going to offer a degree of extra protection, it's stupid to deny that, they wrapped the whole phone in the same type of plastic to keep it pristine during shipping, environmental damage doesn't always limit to drops.
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Second, Gorilla Glass 6 does not scratch like standard glass. Glass on the Mohs hardness scale is 5-5.5 while Gorilla Glass 6 is 6.5, actually a big difference.
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No. All glass scratches at 5.5-6, your £899 2019 flagship scratches just as easily as an iPhone 4.
iPhone XS Max's Gorilla glass 6 scratches at 6
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Now the pre-installed PET (Polyethylene terephthalate) "screen protector" has a Mohs hardness of 1, yes 1. So something with a Mohs hardness scale of 1 is protecting something that is 6.5 on the same scale? That makes ZERO sense. Any scratches you might end up seeing on it would not have scratched the actual screen.
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Mohs is used entirely for mineral hardness, it was never intended to applied on synthetic materials such as PET, the number 1 you gave is completely made up, if you used a Mohs' pick on it anyway it would scratch around level 3.
I suggest you to avoid using whatever you found in your 2 minutes Google/Quora search to debate this and throw me a "Science is your friend." your statements are completely unscientific and you clearly never had anything to do with this field, I don't get who you're trying to impress.
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It's always going to offer a degree of extra protection, it's stupid to deny that, they wrapped the whole phone in the same type of plastic to keep it pristine during shipping, environmental damage doesn't always limit to drops.
No. All glass scratches at 5.5-6, your £899 2019 flagship scratches just as easily as an iPhone 4.
iPhone XS Max's Gorilla glass 6 scratches at 6
Mohs is used entirely for mineral hardness, it was never intended to applied on synthetic materials such as PET, the number 1 you gave is completely made up, if you used a Mohs' pick on it anyway it would scratch around level 3.
I suggest you to avoid using whatever you found in your 2 minutes Google/Quora search to debate this and throw me a "Science is your friend." your statements are completely unscientific and you clearly never had anything to do with this field, I don't get who you're trying to impress.
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Plastic is a level one on the Mohs scale.
Get with the times modern-day smartphones screens do not scratch like they used to do your research and stop looking foolish.
And there is a difference between the hardness of standard glass and Gorilla Glass
Your response is actually comical.
Edit: Plastic is a level 3 you were correct on that. But even with that you have something of a level 3 protecting something that's a level 6.5. Again that makes no sense.
But the first minute of this video will tell you everything you need to know about your pre-installed screen protector.
Like I said originally if somebody wants to leave it on there it's their prerogative.
Wow that escalated fast
Anyway, the phone is s joy to use without the screen protector, enjoying everything Samsung has designed .
I recommend owners try it .
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To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
man... although a simple glass wont scratch with nothing in your pocket..
Maybe someone touched it when you didnt know, or something happened.
I've been using my vibrant for about three weeks now and have no scratches, only some marks on the battery cover.
The samsung vibrant does indeed have gorilla glass. Just because it has gorilla glass doesn't mean its un -scratchable. It just means it's more resistant than regular glass...if you don't mind me asking...what did you have in your pockets? A machete? A light saber?!...I kid, I kid...the morale of this story is, get a screen protector, prevent your vibrant from getting scathed by a light saber!
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whether it has Gorilla glass or not, this is the FIRST phone that ended up with deep scratch only after a month of use.
I really dont care, i got it replaced and finally bought screen protector that i really like. (anti glare and anti fingerprint)
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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with anti-glare and anti-fingerprint you will always tell that its there. i personally dont like reflective screens or screen protectors so my anti-glare and anti-fingerprint work great.
lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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+1 not a scratch.
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
that sucks man, i would be pissed too.
but what did it get scratched on? must have had something in your pocket with it...?
AlexSochi8 said:
To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
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Interesting post...I'm actually a screen protector freak and have ordered multiple brands of screen protectors for the Vibrant (actually even Galaxy S just to try it...) so I'm all FOR screen protectors...best one so far is from Korea.
About your scratch...unless there's a scratch fairy, there is SOMETHING that caused that scratch. It may be foreign to you because you may not have known when it happened...It's highly possible someone else without your knowledge was the cause of it. Scratches just don't appear out of thin air...
Bottom line...the glass on the Samsung is solid...very solid...I've dropped my phone before so I know first hand how durable the glass is...it's some tough $#!t....
PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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Its just the way of the world. If you put a screen protector on, soon after you take it off your will get scratched.
If you put it in a case, soon after you take it off you'll drop your phone. Call it karma, or just dumb luck, but it always seems to happen this way
PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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If someone can do a key test we all can find out for sure
I've put this phones in my pocket with keys many times, dropped it several times, not a scratch yet. Whatever it's made of, it's pretty tough.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
I don't use a sp, but my phone still looks brand new.. No sp, no case, usually keep my phone in my pocket when walking around. Screen is still smooth a glass. Could samsung have used different materials depending on when it was built, kind of like the problem with the shortage if amoled screens?
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I actually dropped my phone on one of those concrete roads in a way that send the phone sliding on the concrete several feet face down. All 4 corners of the phone's bezel show scratches but nothing on the screen itself.
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People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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I agree 100%!!!!
I put my first one on backwards and complained to them about not having standard directions. (You take the plastic covers off in reverse?) I did not read the instructions, but they still sent me three free new ones.
Great company, great screen protectors.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
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I would never personally do this, and a 3 dollar screen protector to protect the integrity of a very sweet piece of equipment, is a very small price to pay.
I just find it hard to believe that with only cloth surrounding it it got scratched. Not even lint in your pocket? I call BS
LOL
need to know if i should purchase a screen protector.
is the touch screen made out of gorilla glass?
I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
I'm 99% positive it is...
...but sand can still scratch GorillaGlass
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I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
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It's the brand-name for hardened glass that everybody knows about. Like all brands of tissue are "Kleenex" now.
Even though most products do indeed use Gorilla Glass brand hardened glass even if they didn't I doubt anything ships with the poorly thought out glass and plastic that PDA touch screens of yore had on them.
RIP iPaq and Casiopea
I'd just buy this screen protector (it's only $5).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057RMT3C
But looking at the gorilla glass website, I noticed that the overseas GSII is on the list, but not the US varients (which I'd assume does have gorilla glass.)
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/samsung
Oops, screen protector is only $5.
I wouldn't bother with a screen protector. They just make the display look muddier, reduce sensitivity, and the glass used (which I'm pretty confident is Gorilla Glass) can stand up to essentially everything that the screen protector would protect against.
Waste of a beatuiful screen getting a protector. Gorilla Glass holds up to anything a protector would like the last post says.
Sprint's Epic 4G Touch guide was leaked a couple weeks back and it said it's got Gorilla Glass.
Save money and enjoy your awesome screen the way it was intended! My original epic got dropped sooo many times on hard floors, cement, etc. Not a single scratch on it. Even accidently put my keys in the same pocket on accidnet a few times. Nothing!
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I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
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I've seen my friend attempt to scratch the surface of his phone with his keys as hard as he can and still did not scratch. that being said I tend to have my keys in the same pocket thus wanting to prevent scratches.
As other poster stated, i rather not have a screen protector since it makes display, sensitivity, ect... crappier.
If it is indeed gorilla glass then no need for screen protector, if not i will buy one to protect the phone.
i'm not asking because i'm afraid of screen getting cracked, i know gorilla glass is just as easy for regular glass to crack. people have a misconception that gorillas glass does not crack. it's just scratch resistant and nothing else.
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I've seen my friend attempt to scratch the surface of his phone with his keys as hard as he can and still did not scratch.
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Have him try that with sand...sure, the screen protector is even less resistant to sand but at least it's a barrier.
...that said I always use screen protectors. I don't know what kind of screen protectors everyone is using that muddys or dulls the screen. There may be a nearly imperceptible level of sensitivity lost, but, my phones have always been as bright clear and sensitive as I could imagine I would ever need them to be, often more and I've never noticed a difference with the screen protector off.
Anyone not putting on a screen protector?
I have never used a screen protector. My screen is perfect and I've had it for almost a year!
GT-I9000. CM7.
What kind of phone?
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I have never used a screen protector. My screen is perfect and I've had it for almost a year!
GT-I9000. CM7.
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I do love the screen on this phone without the screen protection but i am still putting one on. I tried using nothing with one of my epics and was extremely careful with it but still managed to get a nice big scratch right in the middle. I don't even know how it happened. I plan on having this phone for a while and want to keep it in good condition.
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I have dropped my OG Epic, carried out in my pocket, never had a protector and the only thing that scratched was the frame.
Live the naked feel of my screen.
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I might go naked for a bit
TurboFool said:
I wouldn't bother with a screen protector. They just make the display look muddier, reduce sensitivity, and the glass used (which I'm pretty confident is Gorilla Glass) can stand up to essentially everything that the screen protector would protect against.
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I completely agree, never had one for my Evo 4g and I had that since launch.
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I bought the $15 pack of screen protectors today with the phone and the guy put it on for me.. it adds a slight haze to the screen which sucks and I think I may pull it off later and see if I notice the sensitivity being any better and if the screen looks that much greater to me.. normally I like my phone naked.. but my last phone.. the galaxy s 4g for tmobile.. within a week I had little light scratches on it..like my keys hit the screen in the middle in my pocket.. which always slightly bothered me.
Screw it, I'm naked loving every minute of it
I have used with and without. I notice that it is harder to play games that require constant touch WITHOUT a protector. I love the feeling of the bare glass as well but I also like to play games.
Specifically: Gun Bros Pocket Legends, Legends Arcana.. any that require lots of constant touch.
Also, you do Not want to chance getting a 2$ screen protector from someplace like Ebay... I would recommend something of a bit higher quality..
I used a protector from Monoprice on the wife's Thunderbolt and you cant tell its on there. That one Was cheap but I also trust Monoprice supplies.
Besides, why even CHANCE taking damage on your investment? We do so much with these things, why chance hurting our enjoyment of them.
I'm not...never used one on the og epic with gorilla glass...won't use one on this one....I will however keep it in a pocket by itself
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I bought the one from the sprint store for $12 and change.Still get the premier discount for now.You get 3 2 normal ones and a uv one.I had him out the uv one on and i do not even see it nor feel it is there.I like it.I rather have the protection then to get this thing pregnant going naked and have scratches down the road.
I'm extremely careful with my devices, and the slightest damages can get me pissed off like nobody can imagine.
Today I used a pixel tester to see if I had any scratches on my screen, and sure enough, there was an extremely small scratch, that you can barely see, even with your eyes right up to the screen. I had a very hard time even keeping my eye on it. But still, just the idea of a scratch pissed me off so much.
Is this a sign of what's to come? I didn't think I would need a screen protector. I thought the reinforced glass would be just as good as Gorilla Glass, but I guess not, since none of my past Androids have had scratches on them before. None at all.
Should I spend $20 that I don't even have yet on a screen protector? I don't want the screen quality to go down, and I can't put screen protectors on on my own, so I usually pay BestBuy to put Zaggs on, which they mess up by trapping dirt under. I'm not going insane over the scratch, but I keep thinking about what could possibly happen next.
I have a TPU case on my phone's exterior, and I keep the phone in a silk pouch when it's in my pocket (that pocket is dedicated to the phone only, by the way).
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I'm extremely careful with my devices, and the slightest damages can get me pissed off like nobody can imagine.
Today I used a pixel tester to see if I had any scratches on my screen, and sure enough, there was an extremely small scratch, that you can barely see, even with your eyes right up to the screen. I had a very hard time even keeping my eye on it. But still, just the idea of a scratch pissed me off so much.
Is this a sign of what's to come? I didn't think I would need a screen protector. I thought the reinforced glass would be just as good as Gorilla Glass, but I guess not, since none of my past Androids have had scratches on them before. None at all.
Should I spend $20 that I don't even have yet on a screen protector? I don't want the screen quality to go down, and I can't put screen protectors on on my own, so I usually pay BestBuy to put Zaggs on, which they mess up by trapping dirt under. I'm not going insane over the scratch, but I keep thinking about what could possibly happen next.
I have a TPU case on my phone's exterior, and I keep the phone in a silk pouch when it's in my pocket (that pocket is dedicated to the phone only, by the way).
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Try Ghost Armor.
It will fill in the scratch.
Its nearly invisible (you can only see the outline if you look for it).
They will put it on for you.
Its $20 with a lifetime guarantee.
It feels like the actual screen.
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So you're extremely anal about scratches, but you don't use a screen protector? It doesn't matter what the screen is made of, its not invincible. Things happen.
And not sure why you "can't put screen protectors on". Apparently you're unhappy with the way they do it. Just follow the instructions and do it yourself.
Seems like you're being a bit contradictory.
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So you're extremely anal about scratches, but you don't use a screen protector? It doesn't matter what the screen is made of, its not invincible. Things happen. /QUOTE]
Agree 100%
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Seriously too many of these threads, this glass and gorilla glass is basically the same, just because you got lucky with a device with gorilla glass and not the GN is just that LUCK!, my cowon S9 has gorilla glass and it was scratched from just being in my pocket.
if you buy an expensive gadget spend a couple dollars and get a screen protector a few dollars now may save you alot more if you damage it. Glass, coating or no coating will always scratch.
Spend $300 + on a device but won't spend $10-$20 on a screen protector. Then cry when the screen gets a scratch, only one at fault here is you. If you're that OCD about your devices to hold the phone up right infront of you eyes... No comment there.
Zagg that's all I'm going to say, applied it to my baby when she came right out of the box because I'm the same way about my screen but go the extra mile and spend the $10 to $20 on a good screen protector lol .
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I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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I've had my GN for 3 weeks, no scratches, and it's been dropped from about 2 feet of the ground twice (indoors).
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I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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I dont feel degraded at all. Imported hk screen protector at that.
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nyijedi said:
I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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No offense, but getting annoyed about an almost imperceptible scratch on a device that you take with you everywhere you go day-in-day-out is like complaining when your nice shoes get wet. Yeah, I know you paid a lot for the thing, but the thing isn't made of unicorn-tears.
As another poster said: reality is going to happen and you have to make a concession. Protect your investment with a screen protector and take the visual hit, or enjoy the beauty of the device, but risk it getting a few scratches from normal use.
Personally I used to have a Zagg screen protector for my G1 and then my Vibrant for a few months. The Vibrant had Gorilla Glass so I got rid of the Zagg protector and was happier for it. I have enough other crap to worry about than whether my (rapidly) depreciating electronics item gets a scuff on it.
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No offense, but getting annoyed about an almost imperceptible scratch on a device that you take with you everywhere you go day-in-day-out is like complaining when your nice shoes get wet. Yeah, I know you paid a lot for the thing, but the thing isn't made of unicorn-tears.
As another poster said: reality is going to happen and you have to make a concession. Protect your investment with a screen protector and take the visual hit, or enjoy the beauty of the device, but risk it getting a few scratches from normal use.
Personally I used to have a Zagg screen protector for my G1 and then my Vibrant for a few months. The Vibrant had Gorilla Glass so I got rid of the Zagg protector and was happier for it. I have enough other crap to worry about than whether my (rapidly) depreciating electronics item gets a scuff on it.
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Great post. You hit the nail right on the head, especially with your middle paragraph.
It can't be stressed enough that reinforced glass isn't scratch proof. And a good screen protector doesn't affect the screen quality.
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noobdeagle said:
Seriously too many of these threads, this glass and gorilla glass is basically the same, just because you got lucky with a device with gorilla glass and not the GN is just that LUCK!, my cowon S9 has gorilla glass and it was scratched from just being in my pocket.
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No it's not. It's not even close. I don't know why some of you persist on saying this but it simply isn't true. There are others like myself on here who have owned a gorilla glass phone for over a year and next to no one has a scratch on them. Yet we all have tiny scratches on our GN's after mere weeks. And that's absolutely babying the device compared to not giving a **** with the gorilla glass device. You do the math.
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It can't be stressed enough that reinforced glass isn't scratch proof. And a good screen protector doesn't affect the screen quality.
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If you don't see or feel the difference, then that's good for you. Seriously. Every screen protector I've ever tried - and I've wasted a lot of money trying a lot - changes the way the screen looks in some way. Whether it's a visible texture (i.e., "orange peel" effect) or slight dulling of the colors on the screen, they do affect the screen quality in some manner. And that's not even taking the feel of the screen protectors into account.
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No it's not. It's not even close. I don't know why some of you persist on saying this but it simply isn't true. There are others like myself on here who have owned a gorilla glass phone for over a year and next to no one has a scratch on them. Yet we all have tiny scratches on our GN's after mere weeks. And that's absolutely babying the device compared to not giving a **** with the gorilla glass device. You do the math.
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I have to agree with this. I've come to accept the fact that this glass isn't as durable as other glass since I absolutely love this phone, but to insist that this glass is on par with other, more durable glass is being dishonest or uninformed.
I have to agree with nyijedi and vapotrini here. I thought the days of needing a screen protector were long in the past, as they should be. I wasn't nearly as careful with my SGS2 and had no problem putting it in my bare pocket. I just inspected it and saw absolutely no signs of even the smallest scratch.
Yet, I had my GNex out of the packaging for a total of 1 day before I noticed a small, visible scratch on my screen simply from either having it in the pocket of my dress pants or using the touch screen with my finger. I am a germ freak who washes my hands at least 10 times a day. I don't roll around in the dirt either so I assure you that my pockets are as clean as they can possibly be.
You guys say that after spending $300 on a phone you should be forced to spend an additional $20+ for a screen protector. But I say that a $300 phone should not have a screen with coating that can be scratched simply by putting it in your pocket. I understand that glass scratches, including Gorilla Glass. But it takes much more to scratch other Android phones than it does to scratch this thing.
It's a design flaw, pure and simple. This is a problem the first touch screen phones had. A brand new phone like this should not have such a stupid issue IMO.
What exactly is stupid about the fact that everything is susceptible to damage? No one forced you to buy the phone and no one will force you to buy a screen protector for it. Be thankful you've got the cash for something so nice in the first place and if you don't want any scratched then get a protector or leave it on the box and never use it. Or, just don't buy a screen protector at all.
Its as simple as that.
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You are missing the point completely.
Let me simplify this - You can walk into the local store of any mobile carrier right now and pay less than $100 for a phone that you can use as normal on a daily basis (including putting it in your pocket), without worrying about scratching the screen. Yet, our $750 phone scratches the second you put it in your pocket and you don't see a problem with that?
The problem is that ALL of you are talking without any sufficient data to prove your point.
To make a valid statement about the quality/hardness of the GN display, you need to either scientifically test it and/or compare a lot of phones in standardized practical tests.
Unless you have done that, none of you can say anything valid about the screen.
"I am super careful with my phone, haven't scratched any of my 5 dozen phones before but I scratched my GN in 3 days" doesn't say anything at all about the glass quality and neither does the opposite.
2 scratch test videos right off youtube. Not definitive, of course, but seems to fair well to a knife and some keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkcYWwqO7oI
That 2nd one breaks my heart since he's stratching the hell out of the phone AS HE'S ACTIVATING IT. Hasn't even let it get to the home screen before he tries to destroy it.
Didn't see anyone else talking about this on XDA. I though I would post my experience.
****This Product IS AMAZING*****
What is it?
Your touch screen comes with Gorilla Glass, which is great. It has an oleophobic coating on the screen that repels oils from your fingers, from your face. It is great. It also gives the screen that smooth finger sliding lower co-efficient of friction. That new phone screen feeling that I just love when I get a new phone. The problem is that it wears off after some time and you will notice after having the phone for a few months that the screen starts smudging and you start wiping the screen more and more to make it look clean. This drives me crazy and I can honestly admit that I have in the past purchased a new phone just so I could get that "New Screen Feeling". I once even traded in my Galaxy S2 used for a new S2 and spent $100 just to get the "New Screen Feeling".
Am I crazy?
Maybe but I am sure I am not the only one who loves a new screen. I absolutely hate screen protector with a passion, and I have tried multiple different protectors during my smart phone era but none did it for me except the ones that are made from tempered glass, but they suffer from the same fate of the coating wearing off and they are more susceptible to scratching then the stock screen.
So the solution?
This coating can be reapplied for cheap. There are a few different brands that I have come across. I used a brand called Proteger ordered on eBay from Japan. Other brands I have seen are Fusso and Dynaflo LIQUID-ARMOR. It appears that they are all manufactured in Japan. Most bottles are between $15 - $20.
The instructions say to use 10 - 15 drops on the screen. This is not needed and WAY TOO MUCH. You can put 4 - 5 drops on your screen per coat. Best to do 4 coats. This is how I applied it.
- clean first with supplied micro fibre cloth
- 5 drops on screen
- rub with one finger covering the whole screen. I kept rubbing until it was almost completely dry.
- once it is dry the screen is very hazy. Use a clean rag or paper towel to wipe it off. Keep turning the rag to a clean dry spot until all haze is gone.
- repeat 3 more times. It is suggested that you wait 8 hours to allow each coat to cure. I only waited 10 minutes and got great results, but tonight I will allow it 8 hours while I sleep to cure another coat.
Results.
You will notice immediately that the screen feels like new. Even after first coat, but it improves with every coat. The more coats the more slick the screen is.
******Here is the best part*******
I noticed with my Nexus 5 and previous phone that I would always get these micro scratches from regular use. This would drive some people to get screen protectors but I rather micro scratches then a disgusting looking screen protector. I never really got deep scratches or gouges but I would always get micro scratches that you could only see at certain angles. Here is the kicker. After applying the Proteger coating THESE SCRATCHES ARE GONE edit** the ok the scratches are not completely gone but they are much less noticeable. You really have to try to see them now. Obviously this product isn't some sort of magic solution, and the scratches don't disappear. I reckon that it fills the fine scratches kinda like wax on your car. Either way less noticeable is good enough for me.
I even tried it on my crappy beat up Blackberry work phone that has a pretty scratched up screen and all of the scratches are now gone except for 2 deep ones, but even they are less noticeable. AMAZING.
This is a great product and I will recommend it to everyone that I know. The bottle I bought was 10ml and I have done 2 phones and I can't even see the level go down in the bottle, this product should last a long time.
Anyone else use this stuff. Please leave your comments and reviews.
kevjef420 said:
but I rather micro scratches then a disgusting looking screen protector.
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The Anker screen protectors I use are completely invisible, provided you apply them correctly. And to me, micro scratches are completely unacceptable for resale value purposes.
But good review, thanks for sharing, and to each their own.
Hmm maybe this would be great when applied on a cheap glass screan protector. A bit pricey, still.
Couldn't you just use RainX?
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The Anker screen protectors I use are completely invisible, provided you apply them correctly. And to me, micro scratches are completely unacceptable for resale value purposes.
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Exactly my experience. No one believes me when I tell them my phone has a screen protector applied to it. Also they have a very good anti-smudge coating which stops a lot of finger prints and makes the screen very easy to clean. And if you want to have a screen that looks and feels always as new as possible, just stick a new protector on the phone. I got 3 ones from Anker for just 5€. Obviously this only works if you put the screen protector on as soon as you unbox your freshly bought phone. IMO this is the only real way to prevent micro-scratches or any other type of scratches to harm the actual screen. If you want to sell your phone you can take the screen protector off and it looks as new (granted you have been using a case so the rest of your phone isn't scratched etc either)
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Couldn't you just use RainX?
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I haven't personally used RainX, but I have heard some people get good results from it. That said, I still believe a true oleophobic coating is a better idea. I don't know how to feel about the chemical properties of RainX. Maybe I'm just paranoid...
Always wondered if those things actually worked....might get one now. Thanks.
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Exactly my experience. No one believes me when I tell them my phone has a screen protector applied to it. Also they have a very good anti-smudge coating which stops a lot of finger prints and makes the screen very easy to clean. And if you want to have a screen that looks and feels always as new as possible, just stick a new protector on the phone. I got 3 ones from Anker for just 5€. Obviously this only works if you put the screen protector on as soon as you unbox your freshly bought phone. IMO this is the only real way to prevent micro-scratches or any other type of scratches to harm the actual screen. If you want to sell your phone you can take the screen protector off and it looks as new (granted you have been using a case so the rest of your phone isn't scratched etc either)
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The Anker screen protectors I use are completely invisible, provided you apply them correctly. And to me, micro scratches are completely unacceptable for resale value purposes.
But good review, thanks for sharing, and to each their own.
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U both talking about clear one or matte one?
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U both talking about clear one or matte one?
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A matte one wouldn't be invisible, right?
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U both talking about clear one or matte one?
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This one: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00GHD28BS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00 (Yes it's german but you'll get it )
Thanks for this. I've had a hammerhead here for 26 months and just realized after buying another phone how bad the screen is regarding oil and smudges. It is rather ungodly and disgusting looking after taking a phone call. Based on searches the oleophobic coating is gone and I've been looking for a kit to reapply some of it at the very least. All the other products I've looked at do recommend multiple applications several hours apart.
Hopefully your fourteen month old review still holds true.
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The Anker screen protectors I use are completely invisible, provided you apply them correctly. And to me, micro scratches are completely unacceptable for resale value purposes.
But good review, thanks for sharing, and to each their own.
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I agree, my experience with Tech Armor glass screen protectors has been good! The oleophobic coating is better than the one that comes with the nexus 5 and the scratch resistance is better. With a case on, you forget it is even there. I'd link you to it if i could!
Thanks for that information, I was only aware of Fusso before and that costs about £20 for 3ml, for about £30 you get 20ml of this stuff, way better value! I know what to get next time!
Hey, are you able to confirm if the Proteger coating actually works well. Read a few reviews and they all say it only last half a day while Fusso has great reviews. Don't want to waste £30 in it if it's no good.
How good is Gorilla Glass Victus glass? Will it still need a Screen protector? The curved edges make my hesitant about using a screen protector.
Thoughts?
I looked at JerryRigEverything's videos on the S20 Ultra and S21 Ultra (or Gorilla Glass 6 vs Victus)
It seemed that it scratched just the same. I also saw an article where the Corning person admitted that it'll still get scratched by sand, dust, coins, and keys in your pocket.
That said, I haven't decided what I want to do yet. I love tempered glass protectors but they're usually terrible on curved screens and I hate the plastic feeling ones.
It's still a 6/7 on mohs scale.
The only difference is that Victus is slightly more durable, meaning it can endure a bit more force/pressure (newton), something like 8 instead of 5. So your phone will still break and scratch, but it requires a bit more effort to damage it.
Of course it won't help you with sand or anything solid that might make a dent with little amount of effort/pressure.
I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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Every time I've tried that, the screen gets scratched. All the way up to iPhone 12 pro max.
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I haven't used screen protectors in years now. Just don't keep your phone in the same pocket with your keys and you'll be fine. There's only a small percentage of people out there who would need a screen protector, because they operate in rough environments.
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I wish it was this easy in desert climates. Even with shaking out my pockets regularly, a stray piece of sand always manages to find its way to my screens within the first couple months.
FWIW I had the S21 Ultra before this (also using Victus) and it managed to get scratched. Nothing deep, but it was noticeable in sunlight. I'm planning on keeping the Pixel for a good while, so I actually picked up a TPU screen protector for it.
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I wish it was this easy in desert climates. Even with shaking out my pockets regularly, a stray piece of sand always manages to find its way to my screens within the first couple months.
FWIW I had the S21 Ultra before this (also using Victus) and it managed to get scratched. Nothing deep, but it was noticeable in sunlight. I'm planning on keeping the Pixel for a good while, so I actually picked up a TPU screen protector for it.
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At this point there is no such screen protector that doesn't degrade usability of this phone. Curved screen AND the damn on-screen fingerprint reader made sure of that. It's down to everyone's personal philosophy, but in my view the phone should serve me, not the other way around.
For what it's worth, even without screen protectors I didn't have any visible scratches on my Pixel 2 XL or 4 XL, after 2 years of usage each, so I'm gonna risk it this time too.
After 6 days I have the first scratch in the display. The device was always carried isolated in a cargo pocket. I will probably send it back.
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At this point there is no such screen protector that doesn't degrade usability of this phone. Curved screen AND the damn on-screen fingerprint reader made sure of that.
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And that's just... completely untrue. I'm using a TPU based protector, fingerprint works 100%, every damn time. When the UV based protectors come out, they'll work 100%, every time. Optical protectors are a LOT easier to use with screen protectors.
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And that's just... completely untrue. I'm using a TPU based protector, fingerprint works 100%, every damn time. When the UV based protectors come out, they'll work 100%, every time. Optical protectors are a LOT easier to use with screen protectors.
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Likewise. Using Armorsuit plastic screen protector and 100% fingerprint function (and it's fast!)
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Sand will scratch any type of glass. I had a old S4 that was nearing the end of it's service life.
It had no scratches after over 3 years and bare glass feels better so... within 3-4 months with no protector it had 3 easily visible scratches. In spite of keeping it as clean as possible using a microfiber cloth for cleaning.
Unprotected glass will get scratched...
I always put screen protectors on my phones until I got the Essential Phone. No tempered glass screen protectors would work on it, and I did not like the alternatives. I decided to go without one and just "try" to be careful. It did not take long before I had a lot of tiny scratches all over my screen. When I got a deep scratch on my PH-1, I went back to the TPU wet apply screen protector that I did not like, but it is better than the alternative. I did not use my Pixel 6 Pro as my daily driver until my screen protector arrived the next day. I have to say that the TPU screen protector I purchased is much better than the one I used for my PH-1. Very pleased with it. I think the brand is IMBZBK or something like that. I have never heard of it before, and only got it until I could get a brand name protector. I may continue using it until it gives me trouble. I highly recommend a screen protector on your Pixel 6!
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Sand will scratch any type of glass. I had a old S4 that was nearing the end of it's service life.
It had no scratches after over 3 years and bare glass feels better so... within 3-4 months with no protector it had 3 easily visible scratches. In spite of keeping it as clean as possible using a microfiber cloth for cleaning.
Unprotected glass will get scratched...
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Modern phones displays can withstand a 6-7 on Mohs scale.
Sand is a 7.
Hardened steel is, by the way, 7-8.
Aluminium is, by the way, 2.5-3. Only because it's mixed with other metals & refined can it withstand some of the everyday life abuse. It's still **** compared to hardened steel. It's a shame that only Apple uses stainless steel with their IPhones. I would love to have a Pixel with stainless steel. The few grams I don't care about, give me the durability...
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Modern phones displays can withstand a 6-7 on Mohs scale.
Sand is a 7.
Hardened steel is, by the way, 7-8.
Aluminium is, by the way, 2.5-3. Only because it's mixed with other metals & refined can it withstand some of the everyday life abuse. It's still **** compared to hardened steel. It's a shame that only Apple uses stainless steel with their IPhones. I would love to have a Pixel with stainless steel. The few grams I don't care about, give me the durability...
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Yeah?
Sand will still scratch it... it's easy to test
I notice Corning isn't bragging about its hardness.
Optical sapphire is 9. Apple toyed with u$ing it.
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Sand will still scratch it... it's easy to test
I notice Corning isn't bragging about its hardness.
Optical sapphire is 9. Apple toyed with u$ing it.
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Apples Sapphire is sh*t. It's fake. They only use a partial sapphire screen, which means that it's hardness is still a 6-7.
I think HTC's sapphire U Ultra is the only phone/smart device to date with a decent ("real") Sapphire screen. Other than that you will only find expensive watches with a pure Sapphire screen.
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Apples Sapphire is sh*t. It's fake. They only use a partial sapphire screen, which means that it's hardness is still a 6-7.
I think HTC's sapphire U Ultra is the only phone/smart device to date with a decent ("real") Sapphire screen. Other than that you will only find expensive watches with a pure Sapphire screen.
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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I can only repeat myself: Apples implementation of Sapphire on their apple watches & on the backside of devices (camera lense protection) is fake. It was tested all day long on Youtube by people using Mohs picks, it scratched at 6 and 7, which means that it's only Sapphire in name. There is no optical "sapphire" used by Apple, it's a fancy marketing word and only that.
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To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...
While sand is the most common abrasive floating around it's not the only. Gravel can range up to RH 8 so a screen protector can save it from marring in a glancing slide or a low impact drop.
Face plants into gravel are always a thrill...
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I always watch out for meteor showers...
Yeah as said before marketing nonsense. I think the saphire would shatter too easy if they needed to get it that thin for weight control