To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
man... although a simple glass wont scratch with nothing in your pocket..
Maybe someone touched it when you didnt know, or something happened.
I've been using my vibrant for about three weeks now and have no scratches, only some marks on the battery cover.
The samsung vibrant does indeed have gorilla glass. Just because it has gorilla glass doesn't mean its un -scratchable. It just means it's more resistant than regular glass...if you don't mind me asking...what did you have in your pockets? A machete? A light saber?!...I kid, I kid...the morale of this story is, get a screen protector, prevent your vibrant from getting scathed by a light saber!
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whether it has Gorilla glass or not, this is the FIRST phone that ended up with deep scratch only after a month of use.
I really dont care, i got it replaced and finally bought screen protector that i really like. (anti glare and anti fingerprint)
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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with anti-glare and anti-fingerprint you will always tell that its there. i personally dont like reflective screens or screen protectors so my anti-glare and anti-fingerprint work great.
lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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+1 not a scratch.
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
that sucks man, i would be pissed too.
but what did it get scratched on? must have had something in your pocket with it...?
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To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
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Interesting post...I'm actually a screen protector freak and have ordered multiple brands of screen protectors for the Vibrant (actually even Galaxy S just to try it...) so I'm all FOR screen protectors...best one so far is from Korea.
About your scratch...unless there's a scratch fairy, there is SOMETHING that caused that scratch. It may be foreign to you because you may not have known when it happened...It's highly possible someone else without your knowledge was the cause of it. Scratches just don't appear out of thin air...
Bottom line...the glass on the Samsung is solid...very solid...I've dropped my phone before so I know first hand how durable the glass is...it's some tough $#!t....
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Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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Its just the way of the world. If you put a screen protector on, soon after you take it off your will get scratched.
If you put it in a case, soon after you take it off you'll drop your phone. Call it karma, or just dumb luck, but it always seems to happen this way
PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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If someone can do a key test we all can find out for sure
I've put this phones in my pocket with keys many times, dropped it several times, not a scratch yet. Whatever it's made of, it's pretty tough.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
I don't use a sp, but my phone still looks brand new.. No sp, no case, usually keep my phone in my pocket when walking around. Screen is still smooth a glass. Could samsung have used different materials depending on when it was built, kind of like the problem with the shortage if amoled screens?
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I actually dropped my phone on one of those concrete roads in a way that send the phone sliding on the concrete several feet face down. All 4 corners of the phone's bezel show scratches but nothing on the screen itself.
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People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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I agree 100%!!!!
I put my first one on backwards and complained to them about not having standard directions. (You take the plastic covers off in reverse?) I did not read the instructions, but they still sent me three free new ones.
Great company, great screen protectors.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
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I would never personally do this, and a 3 dollar screen protector to protect the integrity of a very sweet piece of equipment, is a very small price to pay.
I just find it hard to believe that with only cloth surrounding it it got scratched. Not even lint in your pocket? I call BS
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The screen protectors at sprint stores have 3 screens. antiglare and 2 normal and look really good on the phone. Their antistatic so no glue
And they cover more than just the screen this time.
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And they cover more than just the screen this time.
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Care to elaborate? Is this a body skin then?
no he means it covers the whole front of the phone and not just the screen cutout
Ohhh cool. Do these three screen protectors come in a pack or sold individually?
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Ohhh cool. Do these three screen protectors come in a pack or sold individually?
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3 pack. 1 antiglare and 2 normal.
Advice, unless you really need antiglare dont use it. Makes the screen look grainy. The normal ones are awesome though and maintain the glass feel and beauty of the screen.
14.99 for the 3 pack btw
my gf and I each got a pack of the sprint screen protectors. I put anti-glare on mine and regular on hers. the anti-glare sucks hard core, but the regular ones seems pretty good. im actually surprised how good the regular ones are. silky smooth, went on with 0 issues. no bubbles or specs. the anti-glare simply makes this beautiful screen look disgusting. oh...but it does cut down on glare for what its worth.
Just a word of warning: the first protector I applied had lint under it after application. I noticed the culprit was the cloth it came with that I used to clean the screen prior to putting it on.
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Just a word of warning: the first protector I applied had lint under it after application. I noticed the culprit was the cloth it came with that I used to clean the screen prior to putting it on.
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NExt time wash your hands with soap REALLY REALLY good then use your hands to clean the screen. Works every time.
Gorilla glass screen guys. So you dont need them. Sells rep at sprimt took his car key to his own ET4G with no signs of damage.
Sent far away from another galaxy....using my ET4G.
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Gorilla glass screen guys. So you dont need them. Sells rep at sprimt took his car key to his own ET4G with no signs of damage.
Sent far away from another galaxy....using my ET4G.
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I know everyone says it gorilla glass and yada yada.. but why risk it on such an expensive gadget.. I for one got a screen protector.. I have an og epic and it got some hairline scratches.. barely noticable but there.. don't forget sand can scratch them..
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g
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I know everyone says it gorilla glass and yada yada.. but why risk it on such an expensive gadget.. I for one got a screen protector.. I have an og epic and it got some hairline scratches.. barely noticable but there.. don't forget sand can scratch them..
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g
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Sand and dirt. Just saying, it is possible. Nice thing is with gorilla glass I don't feel like I need a super strong screen protector.
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well, as soon as one is available from Realook then i will likely get a set from them. i had/have them for the e4g and really like it. i have tried many others and the Realook are the only ones that maintain the true color from the screen. there may be others, but most seem to take aware from the picture quality.
here is the Realook for the gs2-I9000
and an anti-glare specific one here
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Gorilla glass screen guys. So you dont need them. Sells rep at sprimt took his car key to his own ET4G with no signs of damage.
Sent far away from another galaxy....using my ET4G.
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Can't disagree with your confidence in so-called "Gorilla Glass" more!
It scratches. Unfortunately... easily. Had my EPIC in my pocket last spring playing golf and don't remember what was in my pocket but it wasn't anything made from titanium or diamonds and got a couple of pretty good scratches on it.... on my second one (after I replaced due to a brick) got a couple of minor scratches rather easily as well.
Don't get overly confident in the "gorilla" glass... I think there is something awesome about it in that it is highly polished and hard... but it IS NOT scratch proof.
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Gorilla glass screen guys. So you dont need them. Sells rep at sprimt took his car key to his own ET4G with no signs of damage.
Sent far away from another galaxy....using my ET4G.
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My first Epic got scratched the first day I had from something in my pocket I will use a screen protector on the E4GT gorilla glass or not
I hate screen protectors. Who needs it with Gorilla Glass..
Like the above two posters, Gorilla Glass does scratch, and fairly easy at that. All it took to scratch my MoPho was one drop into the pocket my keys were it. As soon as I thought to myself, "Hey dumbass your keys are in that pocket", I pulled out the phone and low and behold there was a scratch. Not a big one, but it was the most annoying little scratch. So screen protectors are definitely a good thing, Gorilla Glass or not.
Gorilla Glass, we got it already!!! Enough already!!! I don't care if it has KING KONG GLASS, the extra layer of protection doesn't take anything away from the beauty of the screen, image or look of the phone. If you've tried a screen protector that does, then you probably either bought a crappy Zagg Invisible shield made of thick vinyl or had a cheaper than dirt one that did suck. The ones the OP is talking about are very nice. Just as nice as the one's Seidio makes, if not better. If you install it correctly, it is VERY difficult to see that the phone even has one on it.
Yes, we know, Gorilla Glass. Please stop! Why don't you make a thread about it instead?
OK, rant over...
I'm getting this horrible "rainbow" effect with the anti-glare protector in the sprint pack. Anyone else have this effect? I thought maybe because I applied it wet that it needs to dry underneath first. Possible?
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I'm getting this horrible "rainbow" effect with the anti-glare protector in the sprint pack. Anyone else have this effect? I thought maybe because I applied it wet that it needs to dry underneath first. Possible?
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It's supposed to be applied dry. Why in the world did you apply it wet?
need to know if i should purchase a screen protector.
is the touch screen made out of gorilla glass?
I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
I'm 99% positive it is...
...but sand can still scratch GorillaGlass
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I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
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It's the brand-name for hardened glass that everybody knows about. Like all brands of tissue are "Kleenex" now.
Even though most products do indeed use Gorilla Glass brand hardened glass even if they didn't I doubt anything ships with the poorly thought out glass and plastic that PDA touch screens of yore had on them.
RIP iPaq and Casiopea
I'd just buy this screen protector (it's only $5).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057RMT3C
But looking at the gorilla glass website, I noticed that the overseas GSII is on the list, but not the US varients (which I'd assume does have gorilla glass.)
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/samsung
Oops, screen protector is only $5.
I wouldn't bother with a screen protector. They just make the display look muddier, reduce sensitivity, and the glass used (which I'm pretty confident is Gorilla Glass) can stand up to essentially everything that the screen protector would protect against.
Waste of a beatuiful screen getting a protector. Gorilla Glass holds up to anything a protector would like the last post says.
Sprint's Epic 4G Touch guide was leaked a couple weeks back and it said it's got Gorilla Glass.
Save money and enjoy your awesome screen the way it was intended! My original epic got dropped sooo many times on hard floors, cement, etc. Not a single scratch on it. Even accidently put my keys in the same pocket on accidnet a few times. Nothing!
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I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
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I've seen my friend attempt to scratch the surface of his phone with his keys as hard as he can and still did not scratch. that being said I tend to have my keys in the same pocket thus wanting to prevent scratches.
As other poster stated, i rather not have a screen protector since it makes display, sensitivity, ect... crappier.
If it is indeed gorilla glass then no need for screen protector, if not i will buy one to protect the phone.
i'm not asking because i'm afraid of screen getting cracked, i know gorilla glass is just as easy for regular glass to crack. people have a misconception that gorillas glass does not crack. it's just scratch resistant and nothing else.
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I've seen my friend attempt to scratch the surface of his phone with his keys as hard as he can and still did not scratch.
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Have him try that with sand...sure, the screen protector is even less resistant to sand but at least it's a barrier.
...that said I always use screen protectors. I don't know what kind of screen protectors everyone is using that muddys or dulls the screen. There may be a nearly imperceptible level of sensitivity lost, but, my phones have always been as bright clear and sensitive as I could imagine I would ever need them to be, often more and I've never noticed a difference with the screen protector off.
Anyone not putting on a screen protector?
I have never used a screen protector. My screen is perfect and I've had it for almost a year!
GT-I9000. CM7.
What kind of phone?
Leegalaxy said:
I have never used a screen protector. My screen is perfect and I've had it for almost a year!
GT-I9000. CM7.
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I do love the screen on this phone without the screen protection but i am still putting one on. I tried using nothing with one of my epics and was extremely careful with it but still managed to get a nice big scratch right in the middle. I don't even know how it happened. I plan on having this phone for a while and want to keep it in good condition.
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I have dropped my OG Epic, carried out in my pocket, never had a protector and the only thing that scratched was the frame.
Live the naked feel of my screen.
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I might go naked for a bit
TurboFool said:
I wouldn't bother with a screen protector. They just make the display look muddier, reduce sensitivity, and the glass used (which I'm pretty confident is Gorilla Glass) can stand up to essentially everything that the screen protector would protect against.
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I completely agree, never had one for my Evo 4g and I had that since launch.
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I bought the $15 pack of screen protectors today with the phone and the guy put it on for me.. it adds a slight haze to the screen which sucks and I think I may pull it off later and see if I notice the sensitivity being any better and if the screen looks that much greater to me.. normally I like my phone naked.. but my last phone.. the galaxy s 4g for tmobile.. within a week I had little light scratches on it..like my keys hit the screen in the middle in my pocket.. which always slightly bothered me.
Screw it, I'm naked loving every minute of it
I have used with and without. I notice that it is harder to play games that require constant touch WITHOUT a protector. I love the feeling of the bare glass as well but I also like to play games.
Specifically: Gun Bros Pocket Legends, Legends Arcana.. any that require lots of constant touch.
Also, you do Not want to chance getting a 2$ screen protector from someplace like Ebay... I would recommend something of a bit higher quality..
I used a protector from Monoprice on the wife's Thunderbolt and you cant tell its on there. That one Was cheap but I also trust Monoprice supplies.
Besides, why even CHANCE taking damage on your investment? We do so much with these things, why chance hurting our enjoyment of them.
I'm not...never used one on the og epic with gorilla glass...won't use one on this one....I will however keep it in a pocket by itself
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I bought the one from the sprint store for $12 and change.Still get the premier discount for now.You get 3 2 normal ones and a uv one.I had him out the uv one on and i do not even see it nor feel it is there.I like it.I rather have the protection then to get this thing pregnant going naked and have scratches down the road.
Does any one had scratches appearing on the screens glass of the Galaxy Nexus?
, few days back i have noticed one noticeable scratch on the screen , strange as i am treating my Nexus very carefully.
My galaxy S which has the gorilla glass never had scratches and it is now more than 6 months old.
Little bit disappointing as it is very new phone with couple of weeks use. who know if there will be more scratches in the future!! Hope not
Just dropped mine 5ft to the pavement landed face first and the battery cover came off. It's still flawless I don't know how but it is.... I was expecting it to be cracked but I'm pretty impressed!
Yeah, I've got a few scratches. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364252
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I have mine in my pocket all the time and it's perfectly fine,not even one scratch.
i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
Yea my original G2x had 2 tiny micro scratches on it. Not noticable unless viewing a white background, more commonly when viewing webpages before they fully load.
The LG Updater bricked mine and got an exchange. Haven't had a problem with my new one but just goes to show.
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i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
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Wise advice here, but nobody sells screen protectors for the nexus where I am. I've ordered some online and I'll be taking it to a professional to get stuck on (every time I do it I leave bubbles; yes I've watched numerous instructional videos alas I cannot do it) - I've only ordered three protectors, hopefully that is more than enough.
All the screen (even Gorilla) would have chance to get scratches...
always get a screen protector for your couple-hundred phone
Yeah I'm gonna have to get some too. I always take extreme care of my phones (whether in my pocket or out) and it already has a small, yet noticeable scratch on the bottom. Definitely need a ZAGG or the like
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
I've been rocking my Incredible since day one without screen protection and it's still mint. (besides a complete crack in upper right corner (in an area that is beyond the display) from one of the worse drops, which was more of a drunken throw). I really hope that the Nexus can handle my lifestyle, but sounds like this thread is reporting mixed reviews. I refuse to wear a condom so I hope I get one of the good ones...
p.s. I surf alot in the summer and sand all over but still no scratches. I guess it has to hit with the right angle and friction???
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I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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One grain of sand or salt + friction (i.e. pocket) and even the Gorilla Glass 2 on the RAZR gets scratched.
You can run a key across the screen all day long, but it only take a granule of something to etch a deep scratch.
If u get a decent screen protector and install it well (I know it ain't easy) it will look/feel as good as the naked glass, and then u dont have to worry - and in a year when u pull it off, the glass will be PERFECT. Small price to pay. The Galaxy Nexus is so thin that with a slim TPU case it's still crazy thin, and you will keep it in perfect condition
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm sorry to say, but you should have ordered the SGP Flex instead. The Ultra Oleophobic ones don't extend to the edge of the screen, because they use the dry adhesive method, and if they went right to the edge of the curved screen they would peel.
Frankly, it looks pretty ugly having a band around the edge that's not covered. Plus, because they don't extend to the edges, it's much more noticeable if you get it off centre.
As mentioned in the other thread i have a couple of tiny scratches after 3 weeks of use and never ever putting anything else in my pocket with it. Disappointing.
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Couldn't agree more. I was the same way with both my Fascinate and now my charge. Neither device has gotten a single scratch.
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vapotrini said:
3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Sand will scratch sand will scratch sand will scratch sand. What do I mean by that? ALL glass (including Gorilla Glass and its differently arranged superficial crystalline structure) is the same molecule- SiO2 or "silica." Is there variation within silica? - yes, but minutely.
[good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness Geology and Mineralogy have huge unrealized relevancy in everyday life- just like under-appreciated physics] The variation will not give silica the hardness of say, "topaz" (at 8 on the scale), but rather is usually due to impurities (additional minerals) that weaken it down to ~ 6 or so. Gorilla Glass seems to be a purified silica, maxing out at 7 hardness. Quartz crystals (what we call "sand") also usually sits at 7 (chemical weathering can both purify and contaminate depending upon the situation), and do not have to be just "sand" like beach/desert sand. Sand is a size classification, you also have "silt" which is just smaller (down to microscopic) quartz crystals, and is "aerial saltating" (airborne- carried by the air but not in solution with it). Many other minerals may be present in the "cloud" that hovers about <50' from the earth's surface due to weathering that will scratch just about anything, so "grit" is a huge issue for ANY screen. Gorilla Glass is nicer than other glass types (although according to the Vickers scale Corning uses, not by much), but it is not invincible and items that can/will scratch are much too common to be flippantly dismissed. Also good reads in these comments: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mfskn/galaxy_nexus_no_gorilla_glass_no_problem/
Buy a screen protector, even if you have Gorilla Glass...
Just get a high end screen protector like xoskins on there. They fill in scratches. Their video shows it pretty well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMRO4OiXw4
I'm extremely careful with my devices, and the slightest damages can get me pissed off like nobody can imagine.
Today I used a pixel tester to see if I had any scratches on my screen, and sure enough, there was an extremely small scratch, that you can barely see, even with your eyes right up to the screen. I had a very hard time even keeping my eye on it. But still, just the idea of a scratch pissed me off so much.
Is this a sign of what's to come? I didn't think I would need a screen protector. I thought the reinforced glass would be just as good as Gorilla Glass, but I guess not, since none of my past Androids have had scratches on them before. None at all.
Should I spend $20 that I don't even have yet on a screen protector? I don't want the screen quality to go down, and I can't put screen protectors on on my own, so I usually pay BestBuy to put Zaggs on, which they mess up by trapping dirt under. I'm not going insane over the scratch, but I keep thinking about what could possibly happen next.
I have a TPU case on my phone's exterior, and I keep the phone in a silk pouch when it's in my pocket (that pocket is dedicated to the phone only, by the way).
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I'm extremely careful with my devices, and the slightest damages can get me pissed off like nobody can imagine.
Today I used a pixel tester to see if I had any scratches on my screen, and sure enough, there was an extremely small scratch, that you can barely see, even with your eyes right up to the screen. I had a very hard time even keeping my eye on it. But still, just the idea of a scratch pissed me off so much.
Is this a sign of what's to come? I didn't think I would need a screen protector. I thought the reinforced glass would be just as good as Gorilla Glass, but I guess not, since none of my past Androids have had scratches on them before. None at all.
Should I spend $20 that I don't even have yet on a screen protector? I don't want the screen quality to go down, and I can't put screen protectors on on my own, so I usually pay BestBuy to put Zaggs on, which they mess up by trapping dirt under. I'm not going insane over the scratch, but I keep thinking about what could possibly happen next.
I have a TPU case on my phone's exterior, and I keep the phone in a silk pouch when it's in my pocket (that pocket is dedicated to the phone only, by the way).
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Try Ghost Armor.
It will fill in the scratch.
Its nearly invisible (you can only see the outline if you look for it).
They will put it on for you.
Its $20 with a lifetime guarantee.
It feels like the actual screen.
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So you're extremely anal about scratches, but you don't use a screen protector? It doesn't matter what the screen is made of, its not invincible. Things happen.
And not sure why you "can't put screen protectors on". Apparently you're unhappy with the way they do it. Just follow the instructions and do it yourself.
Seems like you're being a bit contradictory.
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So you're extremely anal about scratches, but you don't use a screen protector? It doesn't matter what the screen is made of, its not invincible. Things happen. /QUOTE]
Agree 100%
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Seriously too many of these threads, this glass and gorilla glass is basically the same, just because you got lucky with a device with gorilla glass and not the GN is just that LUCK!, my cowon S9 has gorilla glass and it was scratched from just being in my pocket.
if you buy an expensive gadget spend a couple dollars and get a screen protector a few dollars now may save you alot more if you damage it. Glass, coating or no coating will always scratch.
Spend $300 + on a device but won't spend $10-$20 on a screen protector. Then cry when the screen gets a scratch, only one at fault here is you. If you're that OCD about your devices to hold the phone up right infront of you eyes... No comment there.
Zagg that's all I'm going to say, applied it to my baby when she came right out of the box because I'm the same way about my screen but go the extra mile and spend the $10 to $20 on a good screen protector lol .
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I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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I've had my GN for 3 weeks, no scratches, and it's been dropped from about 2 feet of the ground twice (indoors).
nyijedi said:
I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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I dont feel degraded at all. Imported hk screen protector at that.
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nyijedi said:
I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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No offense, but getting annoyed about an almost imperceptible scratch on a device that you take with you everywhere you go day-in-day-out is like complaining when your nice shoes get wet. Yeah, I know you paid a lot for the thing, but the thing isn't made of unicorn-tears.
As another poster said: reality is going to happen and you have to make a concession. Protect your investment with a screen protector and take the visual hit, or enjoy the beauty of the device, but risk it getting a few scratches from normal use.
Personally I used to have a Zagg screen protector for my G1 and then my Vibrant for a few months. The Vibrant had Gorilla Glass so I got rid of the Zagg protector and was happier for it. I have enough other crap to worry about than whether my (rapidly) depreciating electronics item gets a scuff on it.
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No offense, but getting annoyed about an almost imperceptible scratch on a device that you take with you everywhere you go day-in-day-out is like complaining when your nice shoes get wet. Yeah, I know you paid a lot for the thing, but the thing isn't made of unicorn-tears.
As another poster said: reality is going to happen and you have to make a concession. Protect your investment with a screen protector and take the visual hit, or enjoy the beauty of the device, but risk it getting a few scratches from normal use.
Personally I used to have a Zagg screen protector for my G1 and then my Vibrant for a few months. The Vibrant had Gorilla Glass so I got rid of the Zagg protector and was happier for it. I have enough other crap to worry about than whether my (rapidly) depreciating electronics item gets a scuff on it.
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Great post. You hit the nail right on the head, especially with your middle paragraph.
It can't be stressed enough that reinforced glass isn't scratch proof. And a good screen protector doesn't affect the screen quality.
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Seriously too many of these threads, this glass and gorilla glass is basically the same, just because you got lucky with a device with gorilla glass and not the GN is just that LUCK!, my cowon S9 has gorilla glass and it was scratched from just being in my pocket.
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No it's not. It's not even close. I don't know why some of you persist on saying this but it simply isn't true. There are others like myself on here who have owned a gorilla glass phone for over a year and next to no one has a scratch on them. Yet we all have tiny scratches on our GN's after mere weeks. And that's absolutely babying the device compared to not giving a **** with the gorilla glass device. You do the math.
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It can't be stressed enough that reinforced glass isn't scratch proof. And a good screen protector doesn't affect the screen quality.
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If you don't see or feel the difference, then that's good for you. Seriously. Every screen protector I've ever tried - and I've wasted a lot of money trying a lot - changes the way the screen looks in some way. Whether it's a visible texture (i.e., "orange peel" effect) or slight dulling of the colors on the screen, they do affect the screen quality in some manner. And that's not even taking the feel of the screen protectors into account.
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No it's not. It's not even close. I don't know why some of you persist on saying this but it simply isn't true. There are others like myself on here who have owned a gorilla glass phone for over a year and next to no one has a scratch on them. Yet we all have tiny scratches on our GN's after mere weeks. And that's absolutely babying the device compared to not giving a **** with the gorilla glass device. You do the math.
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I have to agree with this. I've come to accept the fact that this glass isn't as durable as other glass since I absolutely love this phone, but to insist that this glass is on par with other, more durable glass is being dishonest or uninformed.
I have to agree with nyijedi and vapotrini here. I thought the days of needing a screen protector were long in the past, as they should be. I wasn't nearly as careful with my SGS2 and had no problem putting it in my bare pocket. I just inspected it and saw absolutely no signs of even the smallest scratch.
Yet, I had my GNex out of the packaging for a total of 1 day before I noticed a small, visible scratch on my screen simply from either having it in the pocket of my dress pants or using the touch screen with my finger. I am a germ freak who washes my hands at least 10 times a day. I don't roll around in the dirt either so I assure you that my pockets are as clean as they can possibly be.
You guys say that after spending $300 on a phone you should be forced to spend an additional $20+ for a screen protector. But I say that a $300 phone should not have a screen with coating that can be scratched simply by putting it in your pocket. I understand that glass scratches, including Gorilla Glass. But it takes much more to scratch other Android phones than it does to scratch this thing.
It's a design flaw, pure and simple. This is a problem the first touch screen phones had. A brand new phone like this should not have such a stupid issue IMO.
What exactly is stupid about the fact that everything is susceptible to damage? No one forced you to buy the phone and no one will force you to buy a screen protector for it. Be thankful you've got the cash for something so nice in the first place and if you don't want any scratched then get a protector or leave it on the box and never use it. Or, just don't buy a screen protector at all.
Its as simple as that.
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You are missing the point completely.
Let me simplify this - You can walk into the local store of any mobile carrier right now and pay less than $100 for a phone that you can use as normal on a daily basis (including putting it in your pocket), without worrying about scratching the screen. Yet, our $750 phone scratches the second you put it in your pocket and you don't see a problem with that?
The problem is that ALL of you are talking without any sufficient data to prove your point.
To make a valid statement about the quality/hardness of the GN display, you need to either scientifically test it and/or compare a lot of phones in standardized practical tests.
Unless you have done that, none of you can say anything valid about the screen.
"I am super careful with my phone, haven't scratched any of my 5 dozen phones before but I scratched my GN in 3 days" doesn't say anything at all about the glass quality and neither does the opposite.
2 scratch test videos right off youtube. Not definitive, of course, but seems to fair well to a knife and some keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkcYWwqO7oI
That 2nd one breaks my heart since he's stratching the hell out of the phone AS HE'S ACTIVATING IT. Hasn't even let it get to the home screen before he tries to destroy it.
Hello everyone. I've had the Lumia 900 for only 13 days and thought I had taken relatively good care of it, yet it already has a scratch on the screen. I did not invest in a screen protector simply because I had heard such great things about Gorilla Glass and didn't deem it necessary. However, it is already there and AT&T's return policy states that they will not exchange it due to physical damage. What should I do? Contact Nokia and send it off for a glass covering? I'm not sure. If anyone takes something from this post, please invest in a screen protector.
Thanks for letting us know. I thought this had corning/gorilla glass, do you know how the scratch was caused? Definitely worriesome if it can be scratched easily..
My screen on my Lumia900 is just fine, but what I notice is the thin metal rim around the screen is dented in many places. Looks like the rim is made from a super malleable metal, it doesn't take much to put a dent in it. I've only dropped my phone out of my hands once onto a wooden table from maybe 4 inches off it, and that was it. Yet there are numerous little dents and pockmarks in the rim. Not too much an eyesore but it wigs out the OCD in me, haha.
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Thanks for letting us know. I thought this had corning/gorilla glass, do you know how the scratch was caused? Definitely worriesome if it can be scratched easily..
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I believe it is Corning Gorilla Glass, and I have not done anything drastic with the phone. It has yet to be dropped or anything. It just goes into the pocket, and that's it. The metal rim on mine seems to be holding up just fine.
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I believe it is Corning Gorilla Glass, and I have not done anything drastic with the phone. It has yet to be dropped or anything. It just goes into the pocket, and that's it. The metal rim on mine seems to be holding up just fine.
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I think they consider this scratch resistent, not scratch proof. You might want to ping Nokia and get their official response. I know with the Dell Venue Pro, they had a very specific canned response for such things.....and it was not in the customers favor. I can't imagine Nokia being any different.
I got two light scratches too. I was surprised that I got them within the first week. I never got a scratch on my HTC Incredible with 2 years of use (without a case or protector).
Damn! I've had mine since April 6th, dropped it on its face many times and no damage whatsoever. My 6 yr old even attacked it with toy utensils and it's still perfect. No screen protector yet, but have one arriving in the mail soon. But I have always been kind of lucky with these kinds of things.
But Corning Gorilla Glass has never been considered scratch proof, just scratch resistant. I always like to have a screen protector as soon as I can find one made specifically for my device.
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Same experience here.
My HD2 is more than 2 years old and has never worn a screen protector. Was always in my pocket dancing with the coins, keys and pens for 2 years.
Lumia #1 was in my pocket 2 days and I swapped it because of the purple hue issue. Service guy pointed out there was a scratch almost 1/2 inch long.
Lumia #2 was in my pocket 4 days then swapped today for the same issue. This time I checked for scratches myself and it had a couple little ones 1/16th" ish.
If this is what Gorilla Glass is then the HD2 must have had freaking Orangutan glass or something cause whatever glass they put on this Lumia isn't half as good.
Looking for the best screen protector to buy now.
I Think it's one of those weird things. My girlfriends HD2 got a scratch within a week of owning it a couple years back! So her HD2 must of had chimpanzee glass, lol. I put a screen protector on my HD2 at purchase, due to that. I think it's unexplainable, kind of like "Where do all the missing socks go?" lol.
Some people don't like screen protectors, but regardless, it's ALWAYS, the smart thing to do.
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Just throw a screen protector on to cover it up ...out of sight out of mind
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Same experience here.
My HD2 is more than 2 years old and has never worn a screen protector. Was always in my pocket dancing with the coins, keys and pens for 2 years.
Lumia #1 was in my pocket 2 days and I swapped it because of the purple hue issue. Service guy pointed out there was a scratch almost 1/2 inch long.
Lumia #2 was in my pocket 4 days then swapped today for the same issue. This time I checked for scratches myself and it had a couple little ones 1/16th" ish.
If this is what Gorilla Glass is then the HD2 must have had freaking Orangutan glass or something cause whatever glass they put on this Lumia isn't half as good.
Looking for the best screen protector to buy now.
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The HD2 is the beast of beasts when it comes to durability. Totally unfair to compare any other phone to that one...when it comes to durability. I still have mine...
i've seen it with iphone 4s too. Mine had 2 hairline scratches. Its actually not the actual scratch in the glass but a scratch in oleophobic layer. feel the scratch on your phone do u actually feel it or u just see it? My 4s had very very light ones that i was unable to feel but saw them at specific angles
Sorry to hear about this. I make an effort to keep my phone, left pocket, in there by itself. Maybe a receipt at the most. Right pocket holds all the 'dangerous' stuff like keys and change. Made that mistake with an old iPhone. Bought it off someone from Craigs, had it for 4 days and accidentally put keys in pocket where it was at for just a few minutes.. damage done.
I'm getting some Ghost Armor put on my 900 this weekend.
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I did not invest in a screen protector simply because I had heard such great things about Gorilla Glass and didn't deem it necessary.
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Glass is glass and it scratches despite all the marketing claims made by the company. If it was so amazing as they claim, there would be no reason for them to announce a "NEW IMPROVED even more sratch resistant...." version
I think most people who use screen protectors have learned this fact at one point or another. If you don't want scratches on your screen, put on a screen protector.
First thing i did with my optimus black was equiping it with a screen protector, and i never regreted it
It has gorilla glas on it but nothing is scratch proof indeed...
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shoey5 said:
Glass is glass and it scratches despite all the marketing claims made by the company. If it was so amazing as they claim, there would be no reason for them to announce a "NEW IMPROVED even more sratch resistant...." version
I think most people who use screen protectors have learned this fact at one point or another. If you don't want scratches on your screen, put on a screen protector.
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exactly. I have motorola Defy before, it was claimed scratch proof, but still have scratches.
Ouch!, though i dented my nokia lumia 900 from a bad fall and it was not pretty, so i went to an att store with the "camera button problem" and showed them it was not working(my phone was in a case at the time) so they didnt notice and i just swaped phone took of the case and there i went. Dont panic just get some cheap case from amazon and see the magic.