I'm extremely careful with my devices, and the slightest damages can get me pissed off like nobody can imagine.
Today I used a pixel tester to see if I had any scratches on my screen, and sure enough, there was an extremely small scratch, that you can barely see, even with your eyes right up to the screen. I had a very hard time even keeping my eye on it. But still, just the idea of a scratch pissed me off so much.
Is this a sign of what's to come? I didn't think I would need a screen protector. I thought the reinforced glass would be just as good as Gorilla Glass, but I guess not, since none of my past Androids have had scratches on them before. None at all.
Should I spend $20 that I don't even have yet on a screen protector? I don't want the screen quality to go down, and I can't put screen protectors on on my own, so I usually pay BestBuy to put Zaggs on, which they mess up by trapping dirt under. I'm not going insane over the scratch, but I keep thinking about what could possibly happen next.
I have a TPU case on my phone's exterior, and I keep the phone in a silk pouch when it's in my pocket (that pocket is dedicated to the phone only, by the way).
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I'm extremely careful with my devices, and the slightest damages can get me pissed off like nobody can imagine.
Today I used a pixel tester to see if I had any scratches on my screen, and sure enough, there was an extremely small scratch, that you can barely see, even with your eyes right up to the screen. I had a very hard time even keeping my eye on it. But still, just the idea of a scratch pissed me off so much.
Is this a sign of what's to come? I didn't think I would need a screen protector. I thought the reinforced glass would be just as good as Gorilla Glass, but I guess not, since none of my past Androids have had scratches on them before. None at all.
Should I spend $20 that I don't even have yet on a screen protector? I don't want the screen quality to go down, and I can't put screen protectors on on my own, so I usually pay BestBuy to put Zaggs on, which they mess up by trapping dirt under. I'm not going insane over the scratch, but I keep thinking about what could possibly happen next.
I have a TPU case on my phone's exterior, and I keep the phone in a silk pouch when it's in my pocket (that pocket is dedicated to the phone only, by the way).
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Try Ghost Armor.
It will fill in the scratch.
Its nearly invisible (you can only see the outline if you look for it).
They will put it on for you.
Its $20 with a lifetime guarantee.
It feels like the actual screen.
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So you're extremely anal about scratches, but you don't use a screen protector? It doesn't matter what the screen is made of, its not invincible. Things happen.
And not sure why you "can't put screen protectors on". Apparently you're unhappy with the way they do it. Just follow the instructions and do it yourself.
Seems like you're being a bit contradictory.
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So you're extremely anal about scratches, but you don't use a screen protector? It doesn't matter what the screen is made of, its not invincible. Things happen. /QUOTE]
Agree 100%
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Seriously too many of these threads, this glass and gorilla glass is basically the same, just because you got lucky with a device with gorilla glass and not the GN is just that LUCK!, my cowon S9 has gorilla glass and it was scratched from just being in my pocket.
if you buy an expensive gadget spend a couple dollars and get a screen protector a few dollars now may save you alot more if you damage it. Glass, coating or no coating will always scratch.
Spend $300 + on a device but won't spend $10-$20 on a screen protector. Then cry when the screen gets a scratch, only one at fault here is you. If you're that OCD about your devices to hold the phone up right infront of you eyes... No comment there.
Zagg that's all I'm going to say, applied it to my baby when she came right out of the box because I'm the same way about my screen but go the extra mile and spend the $10 to $20 on a good screen protector lol .
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I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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I've had my GN for 3 weeks, no scratches, and it's been dropped from about 2 feet of the ground twice (indoors).
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I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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I dont feel degraded at all. Imported hk screen protector at that.
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nyijedi said:
I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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No offense, but getting annoyed about an almost imperceptible scratch on a device that you take with you everywhere you go day-in-day-out is like complaining when your nice shoes get wet. Yeah, I know you paid a lot for the thing, but the thing isn't made of unicorn-tears.
As another poster said: reality is going to happen and you have to make a concession. Protect your investment with a screen protector and take the visual hit, or enjoy the beauty of the device, but risk it getting a few scratches from normal use.
Personally I used to have a Zagg screen protector for my G1 and then my Vibrant for a few months. The Vibrant had Gorilla Glass so I got rid of the Zagg protector and was happier for it. I have enough other crap to worry about than whether my (rapidly) depreciating electronics item gets a scuff on it.
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No offense, but getting annoyed about an almost imperceptible scratch on a device that you take with you everywhere you go day-in-day-out is like complaining when your nice shoes get wet. Yeah, I know you paid a lot for the thing, but the thing isn't made of unicorn-tears.
As another poster said: reality is going to happen and you have to make a concession. Protect your investment with a screen protector and take the visual hit, or enjoy the beauty of the device, but risk it getting a few scratches from normal use.
Personally I used to have a Zagg screen protector for my G1 and then my Vibrant for a few months. The Vibrant had Gorilla Glass so I got rid of the Zagg protector and was happier for it. I have enough other crap to worry about than whether my (rapidly) depreciating electronics item gets a scuff on it.
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Great post. You hit the nail right on the head, especially with your middle paragraph.
It can't be stressed enough that reinforced glass isn't scratch proof. And a good screen protector doesn't affect the screen quality.
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noobdeagle said:
Seriously too many of these threads, this glass and gorilla glass is basically the same, just because you got lucky with a device with gorilla glass and not the GN is just that LUCK!, my cowon S9 has gorilla glass and it was scratched from just being in my pocket.
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No it's not. It's not even close. I don't know why some of you persist on saying this but it simply isn't true. There are others like myself on here who have owned a gorilla glass phone for over a year and next to no one has a scratch on them. Yet we all have tiny scratches on our GN's after mere weeks. And that's absolutely babying the device compared to not giving a **** with the gorilla glass device. You do the math.
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It can't be stressed enough that reinforced glass isn't scratch proof. And a good screen protector doesn't affect the screen quality.
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If you don't see or feel the difference, then that's good for you. Seriously. Every screen protector I've ever tried - and I've wasted a lot of money trying a lot - changes the way the screen looks in some way. Whether it's a visible texture (i.e., "orange peel" effect) or slight dulling of the colors on the screen, they do affect the screen quality in some manner. And that's not even taking the feel of the screen protectors into account.
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No it's not. It's not even close. I don't know why some of you persist on saying this but it simply isn't true. There are others like myself on here who have owned a gorilla glass phone for over a year and next to no one has a scratch on them. Yet we all have tiny scratches on our GN's after mere weeks. And that's absolutely babying the device compared to not giving a **** with the gorilla glass device. You do the math.
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I have to agree with this. I've come to accept the fact that this glass isn't as durable as other glass since I absolutely love this phone, but to insist that this glass is on par with other, more durable glass is being dishonest or uninformed.
I have to agree with nyijedi and vapotrini here. I thought the days of needing a screen protector were long in the past, as they should be. I wasn't nearly as careful with my SGS2 and had no problem putting it in my bare pocket. I just inspected it and saw absolutely no signs of even the smallest scratch.
Yet, I had my GNex out of the packaging for a total of 1 day before I noticed a small, visible scratch on my screen simply from either having it in the pocket of my dress pants or using the touch screen with my finger. I am a germ freak who washes my hands at least 10 times a day. I don't roll around in the dirt either so I assure you that my pockets are as clean as they can possibly be.
You guys say that after spending $300 on a phone you should be forced to spend an additional $20+ for a screen protector. But I say that a $300 phone should not have a screen with coating that can be scratched simply by putting it in your pocket. I understand that glass scratches, including Gorilla Glass. But it takes much more to scratch other Android phones than it does to scratch this thing.
It's a design flaw, pure and simple. This is a problem the first touch screen phones had. A brand new phone like this should not have such a stupid issue IMO.
What exactly is stupid about the fact that everything is susceptible to damage? No one forced you to buy the phone and no one will force you to buy a screen protector for it. Be thankful you've got the cash for something so nice in the first place and if you don't want any scratched then get a protector or leave it on the box and never use it. Or, just don't buy a screen protector at all.
Its as simple as that.
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You are missing the point completely.
Let me simplify this - You can walk into the local store of any mobile carrier right now and pay less than $100 for a phone that you can use as normal on a daily basis (including putting it in your pocket), without worrying about scratching the screen. Yet, our $750 phone scratches the second you put it in your pocket and you don't see a problem with that?
The problem is that ALL of you are talking without any sufficient data to prove your point.
To make a valid statement about the quality/hardness of the GN display, you need to either scientifically test it and/or compare a lot of phones in standardized practical tests.
Unless you have done that, none of you can say anything valid about the screen.
"I am super careful with my phone, haven't scratched any of my 5 dozen phones before but I scratched my GN in 3 days" doesn't say anything at all about the glass quality and neither does the opposite.
2 scratch test videos right off youtube. Not definitive, of course, but seems to fair well to a knife and some keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkcYWwqO7oI
That 2nd one breaks my heart since he's stratching the hell out of the phone AS HE'S ACTIVATING IT. Hasn't even let it get to the home screen before he tries to destroy it.
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To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
man... although a simple glass wont scratch with nothing in your pocket..
Maybe someone touched it when you didnt know, or something happened.
I've been using my vibrant for about three weeks now and have no scratches, only some marks on the battery cover.
The samsung vibrant does indeed have gorilla glass. Just because it has gorilla glass doesn't mean its un -scratchable. It just means it's more resistant than regular glass...if you don't mind me asking...what did you have in your pockets? A machete? A light saber?!...I kid, I kid...the morale of this story is, get a screen protector, prevent your vibrant from getting scathed by a light saber!
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whether it has Gorilla glass or not, this is the FIRST phone that ended up with deep scratch only after a month of use.
I really dont care, i got it replaced and finally bought screen protector that i really like. (anti glare and anti fingerprint)
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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with anti-glare and anti-fingerprint you will always tell that its there. i personally dont like reflective screens or screen protectors so my anti-glare and anti-fingerprint work great.
lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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+1 not a scratch.
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
that sucks man, i would be pissed too.
but what did it get scratched on? must have had something in your pocket with it...?
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To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
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Interesting post...I'm actually a screen protector freak and have ordered multiple brands of screen protectors for the Vibrant (actually even Galaxy S just to try it...) so I'm all FOR screen protectors...best one so far is from Korea.
About your scratch...unless there's a scratch fairy, there is SOMETHING that caused that scratch. It may be foreign to you because you may not have known when it happened...It's highly possible someone else without your knowledge was the cause of it. Scratches just don't appear out of thin air...
Bottom line...the glass on the Samsung is solid...very solid...I've dropped my phone before so I know first hand how durable the glass is...it's some tough $#!t....
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Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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Its just the way of the world. If you put a screen protector on, soon after you take it off your will get scratched.
If you put it in a case, soon after you take it off you'll drop your phone. Call it karma, or just dumb luck, but it always seems to happen this way
PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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If someone can do a key test we all can find out for sure
I've put this phones in my pocket with keys many times, dropped it several times, not a scratch yet. Whatever it's made of, it's pretty tough.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
I don't use a sp, but my phone still looks brand new.. No sp, no case, usually keep my phone in my pocket when walking around. Screen is still smooth a glass. Could samsung have used different materials depending on when it was built, kind of like the problem with the shortage if amoled screens?
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I actually dropped my phone on one of those concrete roads in a way that send the phone sliding on the concrete several feet face down. All 4 corners of the phone's bezel show scratches but nothing on the screen itself.
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People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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I agree 100%!!!!
I put my first one on backwards and complained to them about not having standard directions. (You take the plastic covers off in reverse?) I did not read the instructions, but they still sent me three free new ones.
Great company, great screen protectors.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
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I would never personally do this, and a 3 dollar screen protector to protect the integrity of a very sweet piece of equipment, is a very small price to pay.
I just find it hard to believe that with only cloth surrounding it it got scratched. Not even lint in your pocket? I call BS
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need to know if i should purchase a screen protector.
is the touch screen made out of gorilla glass?
I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
I'm 99% positive it is...
...but sand can still scratch GorillaGlass
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I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
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It's the brand-name for hardened glass that everybody knows about. Like all brands of tissue are "Kleenex" now.
Even though most products do indeed use Gorilla Glass brand hardened glass even if they didn't I doubt anything ships with the poorly thought out glass and plastic that PDA touch screens of yore had on them.
RIP iPaq and Casiopea
I'd just buy this screen protector (it's only $5).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057RMT3C
But looking at the gorilla glass website, I noticed that the overseas GSII is on the list, but not the US varients (which I'd assume does have gorilla glass.)
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/samsung
Oops, screen protector is only $5.
I wouldn't bother with a screen protector. They just make the display look muddier, reduce sensitivity, and the glass used (which I'm pretty confident is Gorilla Glass) can stand up to essentially everything that the screen protector would protect against.
Waste of a beatuiful screen getting a protector. Gorilla Glass holds up to anything a protector would like the last post says.
Sprint's Epic 4G Touch guide was leaked a couple weeks back and it said it's got Gorilla Glass.
Save money and enjoy your awesome screen the way it was intended! My original epic got dropped sooo many times on hard floors, cement, etc. Not a single scratch on it. Even accidently put my keys in the same pocket on accidnet a few times. Nothing!
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I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
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I've seen my friend attempt to scratch the surface of his phone with his keys as hard as he can and still did not scratch. that being said I tend to have my keys in the same pocket thus wanting to prevent scratches.
As other poster stated, i rather not have a screen protector since it makes display, sensitivity, ect... crappier.
If it is indeed gorilla glass then no need for screen protector, if not i will buy one to protect the phone.
i'm not asking because i'm afraid of screen getting cracked, i know gorilla glass is just as easy for regular glass to crack. people have a misconception that gorillas glass does not crack. it's just scratch resistant and nothing else.
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I've seen my friend attempt to scratch the surface of his phone with his keys as hard as he can and still did not scratch.
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Have him try that with sand...sure, the screen protector is even less resistant to sand but at least it's a barrier.
...that said I always use screen protectors. I don't know what kind of screen protectors everyone is using that muddys or dulls the screen. There may be a nearly imperceptible level of sensitivity lost, but, my phones have always been as bright clear and sensitive as I could imagine I would ever need them to be, often more and I've never noticed a difference with the screen protector off.
Anyone not putting on a screen protector?
I have never used a screen protector. My screen is perfect and I've had it for almost a year!
GT-I9000. CM7.
What kind of phone?
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I have never used a screen protector. My screen is perfect and I've had it for almost a year!
GT-I9000. CM7.
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I do love the screen on this phone without the screen protection but i am still putting one on. I tried using nothing with one of my epics and was extremely careful with it but still managed to get a nice big scratch right in the middle. I don't even know how it happened. I plan on having this phone for a while and want to keep it in good condition.
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I have dropped my OG Epic, carried out in my pocket, never had a protector and the only thing that scratched was the frame.
Live the naked feel of my screen.
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I might go naked for a bit
TurboFool said:
I wouldn't bother with a screen protector. They just make the display look muddier, reduce sensitivity, and the glass used (which I'm pretty confident is Gorilla Glass) can stand up to essentially everything that the screen protector would protect against.
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I completely agree, never had one for my Evo 4g and I had that since launch.
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I bought the $15 pack of screen protectors today with the phone and the guy put it on for me.. it adds a slight haze to the screen which sucks and I think I may pull it off later and see if I notice the sensitivity being any better and if the screen looks that much greater to me.. normally I like my phone naked.. but my last phone.. the galaxy s 4g for tmobile.. within a week I had little light scratches on it..like my keys hit the screen in the middle in my pocket.. which always slightly bothered me.
Screw it, I'm naked loving every minute of it
I have used with and without. I notice that it is harder to play games that require constant touch WITHOUT a protector. I love the feeling of the bare glass as well but I also like to play games.
Specifically: Gun Bros Pocket Legends, Legends Arcana.. any that require lots of constant touch.
Also, you do Not want to chance getting a 2$ screen protector from someplace like Ebay... I would recommend something of a bit higher quality..
I used a protector from Monoprice on the wife's Thunderbolt and you cant tell its on there. That one Was cheap but I also trust Monoprice supplies.
Besides, why even CHANCE taking damage on your investment? We do so much with these things, why chance hurting our enjoyment of them.
I'm not...never used one on the og epic with gorilla glass...won't use one on this one....I will however keep it in a pocket by itself
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I bought the one from the sprint store for $12 and change.Still get the premier discount for now.You get 3 2 normal ones and a uv one.I had him out the uv one on and i do not even see it nor feel it is there.I like it.I rather have the protection then to get this thing pregnant going naked and have scratches down the road.
I haven't put screen protectors on any phone in the last 2 years because I've never needed them. I handle with care and the phone is the only thing ever in a pocket.
Today I noticed on my GSM Nexus that there are light vertical scratches from the bottom of the screen. It reminds me a lot of the swirls/scratches you see on cars after a few washes. Head on and in daily use I don't see them but under a bright light or sun its very easy to see.
I'm not an idiot and obviously I somehow caused these scratches but what the hell could I have done to cause scratches all over fortified glass? Seems very suspicious and maybe Gorilla glass is much better.
It looks like I've been Samsunged.
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It is possible that Gorilla Glass may have saved your phone in this case, but I have the exact scratches on my Droid X with GG. Also my Xoom. I ended up with screen protectors on them for this reason. Nothing is impossible to scratch. And once they get tiny scratches like that they are more susceptible to more.
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It is possible that Gorilla Glass may have saved your phone in this case, but I have the exact scratches on my Droid X with GG. Also my Xoom. I ended up with screen protectors on them for this reason. Nothing is impossible to scratch. And once they get tiny scratches like that they are more susceptible to more.
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I never had any issues on my HTC Incredible and Sensation both which use Gorilla glass but this phone after only 2 months its crazy there are scratches. Happened over this weekend. Only thing I can think of is sliding it in and out of my jeans. That's really it. No drops or no trips to beach. Its just bizarre.
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It's 'like' gorilla glass perhaps, but nowhere near as effective. Gorilla glass my not be bullet-proof or 100% scratch resistant but i find it's much, much better as resisting scratches as compared to a normal screen
I first found this out after i traded in the SGS1 for the Nexus S - never used a screen protector for the gorilla glass of the SGS1 and my nexus S screen scratched within a couple of weeks. Had to use a screen protector.
Had a SGS2 and Sensation for a few months - never used a screen protector yet not a single scratch.
The iphone 4/4s with their 'fortified/hardened' glasses are even worse.
Needless to say that the first thing i did to my GN when i got it was apply a screen protector on it. Peace of mind.
Samsung is not advertising the glass on the Gnex as being "like" GG...I think Corning, makers of GG, would object strongly if Samsung did any such thing. If someone in a phone shop told you that, you really can't blame Samsung for it.
The Gnex doesn't have gorilla glass because the Gnex screen has a curve and GG is flat. To be honest, I've never seen advertising from Samsung that mentions the strength or durability of the glass on the Gnex at all, but I probably haven't seen every single Gnex ad that exists.
I got a scratch on my Gnex and then I got a screen protector. I was disappointed when I got a scratch, since I used my SGS "naked" and never had any damage to the screen. But I'm not so upset that I feel like I got ripped off.
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mobilehavoc said:
I never had any issues on my HTC Incredible and Sensation both which use Gorilla glass but this phone after only 2 months its crazy there are scratches. Happened over this weekend. Only thing I can think of is sliding it in and out of my jeans. That's really it. No drops or no trips to beach. Its just bizarre.
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Dinc didn't use gorilla glass but it was fortified glass and it didn't get a scratch in the 2 years I had it. I just have to remember to be more careful with my gnex.
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Samsung is not advertising the glass on the Gnex as being "like" GG...I think Corning, makers of GG, would object strongly if Samsung did any such thing. If someone in a phone shop told you that, you really can't blame Samsung for it.
The Gnex doesn't have gorilla glass because the Gnex screen has a curve and GG is flat. To be honest, I've never seen advertising from Samsung that mentions the strength or durability of the glass on the Gnex at all, but I probably haven't seen every single Gnex ad that exists.
I got a scratch on my Gnex and then I got a screen protector. I was disappointed when I got a scratch, since I used my SGS "naked" and never had any damage to the screen. But I'm not so upset that I feel like I got ripped off.
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What's weird is my scratches seem to be more to the screen's coating?? than to the glass? As in you see them if you face the phone top down but at an angle you can't see them. Almost reminds me of what scratches on a screen protector look like. It has no impact at all on the display when the screen is on or when there's not a bright overhead light. Even with a bright overhead light I have to look at the screen straight on so is it possible it's a scratch in whatever coating they use? Running my fingers doesn't feel anything either.
Weird. My scratch can easily be felt if you run a fingernail over it- or, at least, you could before I put on an XOskin (not meaning to spam on their behalf, but their screen protector fills existing scratches well). I didn't have any microscratches like you describe at all, and I think I'd be pissed about that too. Possibly a defective phone? Or a refurb that has a cheap screen protector on it?
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mobilehavoc said:
What's weird is my scratches seem to be more to the screen's coating?? than to the glass? As in you see them if you face the phone top down but at an angle you can't see them. Almost reminds me of what scratches on a screen protector look like. It has no impact at all on the display when the screen is on or when there's not a bright overhead light. Even with a bright overhead light I have to look at the screen straight on so is it possible it's a scratch in whatever coating they use? Running my fingers doesn't feel anything either.
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I have the same thing. Very strange.
Edit: I can't feel my scratch with a fingernail either.
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lilirose said:
Weird. My scratch can easily be felt if you run a fingernail over it- or, at least, you could before I put on an XOskin (not meaning to spam on their behalf, but their screen protector fills existing scratches well). I didn't have any microscratches like you describe at all, and I think I'd be pissed about that too. Possibly a defective phone? Or a refurb that has a cheap screen protector on it?
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I REFUSE to put a screen protector on, it's BS that we have to do that. I just added insurance so worst case if it gets much worse I'll pay the deductible and get a replacement. I absolutely hate screen protectors with a passion...last time I used one was on a Palm Pre and then a Hero. These beautiful phones and glass is meant to be felt by your fingertips - it's a whole different experience when you touch glass or plastic IMHO.
Same here, I refuse to put a screen protector.
I am happy with the Samsung "fortified" glass. I have been using my GN every single day in my pocket and I have yet to see a single scratch!
I have a few of those tiny scratches on my Nexus. Not really noticeable unless I really look for them so I'm not terribly bothered.
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You refuse to use a screen protector, I refuse to walk around with a €600 phone that has a scratched-up screen. Different strokes for different folks.
I look at it as being no different to using a condom...not perfect, but a heck of a lot better than the alternative. ;-)
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the scratches surely are not on the glass but on the coating which is applied to the glass.
tigajr said:
Same here, I refuse to put a screen protector.
I am happy with the Samsung "fortified" glass. I have been using my GN every single day in my pocket and I have yet to see a single scratch!
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Ditto. Since late Nov its naked in my pocket every day. Looks mint at any angle.
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Rain X anyone? In my Grey poupon voice.
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You should try Zagg. I'm serious, it doesn't interfere with the screen, and it absolutely works. Gorillia glass is tempered, meaning it's stronger than regular glass, just like a car windshield. That being said, it will eventually scratch if the conditions are right. Believe it or not, dust that settles on the glass will cause minor abrasions- couple that with being inside a pocket, it's a miracle that your phone isn't worse off.
I mean, the screen won't get scratched, and considering you have $600+ phone, I think the $12 on ebay is worth it. I'll tell you right now, the one made for the galaxy nexus covers the entire front, even the very bottom. Couple that with an otterbox commuter, or defender (with the built in screen protector removed) your phone will not get broken.
tigajr said:
Same here, I refuse to put a screen protector.
I am happy with the Samsung "fortified" glass. I have been using my GN every single day in my pocket and I have yet to see a single scratch!
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I am very, very careful with my GN. I put it in its sleeve, put the sleeve in the left pocket with nothing else, screen in. Always wipe after heavy usage.
Oh and I don't flail around with it like a freakin' kraken.
Result? No scratches! Of course, the charger port is getting a bit worn in, but hey, not my fault the battery sucks.
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You should try Zagg. I'm serious, it doesn't interfere with the screen, and it absolutely works. Gorillia glass is tempered, meaning it's stronger than regular glass, just like a car windshield. That being said, it will eventually scratch if the conditions are right. Believe it or not, dust that settles on the glass will cause minor abrasions- couple that with being inside a pocket, it's a miracle that your phone isn't worse off.
I mean, the screen won't get scratched, and considering you have $600+ phone, I think the $12 on ebay is worth it. I'll tell you right now, the one made for the galaxy nexus covers the entire front, even the very bottom. Couple that with an otterbox commuter, or defender (with the built in screen protector removed) your phone will not get broken.
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If Zagg is still the same tacky, orange-peeled nonsense that it was when I got my Incredible, I'd pass on that in a minute. It protects well, but the tackiness is absolutely unbearable (I played with my Dinc last night and the touch/feel was nonsense), the orange peel can be unslightly to the OCD (ala me), and it starts to yellow after a couple of years.
BUT....diff'rent strokes.
Don't bother with wet application screen protectors. They all suck.
Get your self a brando UK ultra crystal. Can't even tell its on the phone. (And I hate screen protectors)
Takes like 14 days from Hong Kong to USA but its worth it.
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You should try Zagg. I'm serious, it doesn't interfere with the screen, and it absolutely works. Gorillia glass is tempered, meaning it's stronger than regular glass, just like a car windshield. That being said, it will eventually scratch if the conditions are right. Believe it or not, dust that settles on the glass will cause minor abrasions- couple that with being inside a pocket, it's a miracle that your phone isn't worse off.
I mean, the screen won't get scratched, and considering you have $600+ phone, I think the $12 on ebay is worth it. I'll tell you right now, the one made for the galaxy nexus covers the entire front, even the very bottom. Couple that with an otterbox commuter, or defender (with the built in screen protector removed) your phone will not get broken.
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I can look at it other way - it's a $700 phone (for me) so why ruin the amazing glass screen, touch response, look and feel of the device by a piece of $12 plastic??
I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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Yeah, I never understand it either. You buy a phone with a nice-ass screen and cover it up with some cheap plastic. Almost 2 years, my S4 is still looking good without any screen protectors.
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Yeah, I never understand it either. You buy a phone with a nice-ass screen and cover it up with some cheap plastic. Almost 2 years, my S4 is still looking good without any screen protectors.
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Not to mention air bubbles, they get discolored after a while, you can't enjoy the screen quality, and I looked it up. Apprarently Gorilla glass can get scratched by a steel file, but nothing less.
Basically, unless you're carryimg around an iron file in your pockets, and putting your phone with it, you're good.
And yes, knives, and keys can scratch your screen, but you have to go out of your way to scratch it. It won't scratch if in contact like your pockets or something.
The only real risk of screen damage (realistically I'm real life settings) is dropping it. A screen protector isn't saving that. And if you work construction, a screen protector ain't saving your screen from what ever a gonna damage it on the site.
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I must admit there is a small scratch on the screen, visible at a certain angle with the screen off, but I don't look at my phone at that angle or with the screen off.
I've had a screen protector and Commuter series Otterbox case on mine since day one. I've only had to change the screen protector like 3 times in almost two years, and that's only because they started losing their resistance to fingerprints. I've never had any problems with air bubbles or screen dimming because I didn't buy el cheapo screen protectors, but they weren't expensive either.
After all this time, I can take off the case and screen protector and my S4 still looks like it did the day I bought it.
It's a small price to pay for keeping your phone in great condition. No doubt the next owner will appreciate it when I decide to upgrade.
tikay00 said:
I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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Strong and scratch resistant...not scratch-proof...big difference.
A good case can protect the screen from taking a skid across concrete just as well though.
I hear spider web makes a great screen protector.
Pp. Lol
KennyG123 said:
Strong and scratch resistant...not scratch-proof...big difference.
A good case can protect the screen from taking a skid across concrete just as well though.
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This.
Scratching can be done with less than a steel file.
I keep my phone in my front pocket and the only other thing that is ever in that pocket is paper money. Nothing else ever goes in that pocket.
I have 2 small scratches after 18 months. Neither visible when the screen is on...but there none the less. Best I can figure is they are from the metal rivets in my jeans.
A screen protector would have prevented that. But would have also lowered the quality of the screen in the mean time. Its a trade off. And each person has to decide which is more important to them.
Skipjacks said:
This.
Scratching can be done with less than a steel file.
I keep my phone in my front pocket and the only other thing that is ever in that pocket is paper money. Nothing else ever goes in that pocket.
I have 2 small scratches after 18 months. Neither visible when the screen is on...but there none the less. Best I can figure is they are from the metal rivets in my jeans.
A screen protector would have prevented that. But would have also lowered the quality of the screen in the mean time. Its a trade off. And each person has to decide which is more important to them.
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Been putting my phone in various pockets for the longest time, and absolutely no scratches. I don't know what you guys are doing to your phones. That sucks.
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Phone case is a different story. Need one. Screen protector, I don't get. I got one with my case, and I don't even use it. These screens do not scratch unless you're very reckless.
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tikay00 said:
I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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ive thought the same thing. so i didnt use them.
but i only buy flagships and the keep good resale value to put towards my next one.
so in that case, i use them to get the scratches on the plastic and the real screen is still fresh.
i also feel the same about cases! they make your phone look like tupperware!
resale resale resale! plus i dont like ugly beat up looking stuff.
tikay00 said:
Phone case is a different story. Need one. Screen protector, I don't get. I got one with my case, and I don't even use it. These screens do not scratch unless you're very reckless.
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Had 3 deep scratches on my S3. Near as I can tell it was from sharing the pocket with tools every now and then. So not sure about "very" reckless...but maybe only a "little" reckless.
logikism said:
ive thought the same thing. so i didnt use them.
but i only buy flagships and the keep good resale value to put towards my next one.
so in that case, i use them to get the scratches on the plastic and the real screen is still fresh.
i also feel the same about cases! they make your phone look like tupperware!
resale resale resale! plus i dont like ugly beat up looking stuff.
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Yep only need a phone case. Screen protector is useless unless you're dumb.
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KennyG123 said:
Had 3 deep scratches on my S3. Near as I can tell it was from sharing the pocket with tools every now and then. So not sure about "very" reckless...but maybe only a "little" reckless.
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Gotcha
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Lol, lemme get this straight...
You guys agree that screen protectors are "dumb" and "useless" while at the same time admitting that your screens have scratches on them...
Makes total sense. [/sarcasm]
I'll take the hardly noticeable decrease in screen clarity over scratches any days. You can always change the screen protector for something better, but even minor scratches are permanent. No thank you.
It depends on what screen protector you get, if you get the Chinese protectors 3 in a pack that look and feel like seran wrap you could windup with lose of clarity and a tacky rubbery feel.
Last year I got a Spigen thin air clear case and it came with a screen protector that looked like a rigid piece of plastic and kind of thick, I figured it's included with the case so I gave it a try. Well I was pleasantly surprised at the feel quality and clarity of the protector, you cannot tell that there is a screen protector on the screen, very hard and slick feel on screen and the same sharpness and vivid color of the original plain screen.
It was a ***** putting it on, had to wet the edges to get it on right, in the end it was well worth it.
Spigen screen protectors are considered premium screen protection.
Who knew.
Pp.
The only screen protectors I've ever used was a three pack from Tmo when I bought my S4 and the one that came with my Otterbox. I don't remember the brand of the three pack, but they worked just fine with no noticeable loss in clarity. The Otterbox screen protector has some weird wavy pattern when tilted while the screen is off, but it's otherwise fine. No noticeable loss of clarity with it either. I'm in no rush to get a new 3 pack.
Honestly, I don't know how anyone in this thread can seriously argue against using a screen protector especially considering the cost of the phone they protect. IMO it's right up there with purchasing the phone without insurance.
I grabbed the Otterbox Defender, popped the screen protector that comes with the OB out (because I got tired of little bits of dust getting behind that screen protector from either the charging port, speaker holes, or the headphone jack) and just put a Zagg Invisible Shield on it. On top of the dust getting behind the OB screen protector, it also seemed to add a type of haze to the screen which I didn't like. It obviously detracted from the 1080p HD look. I haven't changed the Zagg shield since I got the device and only very recently have I noticed very small lines appearing at the part of the screen where I swipe to unlock and the keyboard area.
The tempered glass screen protector I have used for the past two years has saved the screen glass two times now. One when a hammer fell out of my hand a couple feet from the floor and hit my phone by my feet. Glass protector cracked but the screen underneath was unscathed. The replacement survived multiple drops face first on concrete over the next year and only gained a couple micro fractures. Replaced that one last week and the screen underneath was still as good as new. Tempered glass protectors don't degrade image quality or hinder finger movement either. I know mine was extreme cases of abuse but they really are beneficial unless you feel like replacing the whole front glass of the phone after a mishap happens.
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The tempered glass screen protector I have used for the past two years has saved the screen glass two times now. One when a hammer fell out of my hand a couple feet from the floor and hit my phone by my feet. Glass protector cracked but the screen underneath was unscathed. The replacement survived multiple drops face first on concrete over the next year and only gained a couple micro fractures. Replaced that one last week and the screen underneath was still as good as new. Tempered glass protectors don't degrade image quality or hinder finger movement either. I know mine was extreme cases of abuse but they really are beneficial unless you feel like replacing the whole front glass of the phone after a mishap happens.
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Why would your phone ever be near your feet, or on the ground in general?
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Considering this is a general question and nothing to do with an in depth discussion on accessories, I decided to post this here. My whole life I've used screen protectors on phones. In recent years I've switched over to tempered glass.
Given the current state of tempered glass screen protectors for our devices, I haven't had the best of luck. Every one I've received from several different companies has either had a nasty rainbow hue, or dust get under the screen protector (due to adhesive only being on the edges). I know there's been some new tempered glass protectors released recently, but considering I paid for protection plan, I don't feel warranted to drop $50+ on a screen protector.
I have the Google Protection plan. I also plan on RMA'ing my device one day down the line due to a couple of issues I'm having, but I decided to wait as I am not completely bothered by them for now.
I'm honestly debating going screen protector'less, I do use a case, and will never consider removing that.
I feel if I ever do get some scratches, it wouldn't even matter considering I plan on RMA'ing the device eventually anyway. What are your thoughts?
Haven't worried about it on the last three phones. Never had a problem or scratch. And my phone sits on my handlebars on my motorcycle for most of the summer.
bigblueshock said:
Considering this is a general question and nothing to do with an in depth discussion on accessories, I decided to post this here. My whole life I've used screen protectors on phones. In recent years I've switched over to tempered glass.
Given the current state of tempered glass screen protectors for our devices, I haven't had the best of luck. Every one I've received from several different companies has either had a nasty rainbow hue, or dust get under the screen protector (due to adhesive only being on the edges). I know there's been some new tempered glass protectors released recently, but considering I paid for protection plan, I don't feel warranted to drop $50+ on a screen protector.
I have the Google Protection plan. I also plan on RMA'ing my device one day down the line due to a couple of issues I'm having, but I decided to wait as I am not completely bothered by them for now.
I'm honestly debating going screen protector'less, I do use a case, and will never consider removing that.
I feel if I ever do get some scratches, it wouldn't even matter considering I plan on RMA'ing the device eventually anyway. What are your thoughts?
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Yeah, old habits die hard. Don't use a screen protector. They interfere with the phone, look like crap, don't fit right (curved glass), cause touch issues and are outrageously expensive. You'll be just fine with a decent case with a good lip unless you intentionally put coins, keys or other hard metallic objects in the same pocket. My .02 cents.
I don't use one for a couple of years now and never had a scratch.
Ever since curved glass, I started using wet apply screen protectors.
It "molds" to the sides, accommodating the curves and at times it's hard to tell there's something on my phone.
There is a bit of grain when viewing something with a white background, and you don't get the feel of glass, but both these things are very minor to me and wont stop me from continue using it.
If this wet application protector didn't exist, I'd probably go without one as well. I've never done that before but I can't tolerate the insanely poor quality tgsps that work horribly with the curves especially.
rickysidhu_ said:
Ever since curved glass, I started using wet apply screen protectors.
It "molds" to the sides, accommodating the curves and at times it's hard to tell there's something on my phone.
There is a bit of grain when viewing something with a white background, and you don't get the feel of glass, but both these things are very minor to me and wont stop me from continue using it.
If this wet application protector didn't exist, I'd probably go without one as well. I've never done that before but I can't tolerate the insanely poor quality tgsps that work horribly with the curves especially.
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Good to know. Thanks! Which one do you use in particular, out of curiosity?
v12xke said:
Yeah, old habits die hard. Don't use a screen protector. They interfere with the phone, look like crap, don't fit right (curved glass), cause touch issues and are outrageously expensive. You'll be just fine with a decent case with a good lip unless you intentionally put coins, keys or other hard metallic objects in the same pocket. My .02 cents.
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Yup, those are things I don't do. Very careful. Thanks!
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Good to know. Thanks! Which one do you use in particular, out of curiosity?
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It's from "Sparin". If you search "wet applied" for our device it should come up on Amazon!
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It's from "Sparin". If you search "wet applied" for our device it should come up on Amazon!
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So, this covers the WHOLE screen. I like that. I just wish they made a matte one...
Thanks!
It depends on your phone handling, case & usage! For me, I've not needed one on my devices!
I have not used one since I had a galaxy s2, when Nexus 4 was released never had a scratch on a phone screen since. I did drop a Samsung tablet with a pen under when I was walking at good pace and it landed beneath it and cracked screen. It was between tile floor and the screen.
If you want to protect your screen from cracks you need a case that has a small lip that would prevent glass from hitting ground. The curved glass might be more prone to crack if it lands on a part.
Whitestone dome glass, its been proven to work across several devices with these screen types.
There is another one now with similar tech but I can't remember the name.
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force70 said:
Whitestone dome glass, its been proven to work across several devices with these screen types.
There is another one now with similar tech but I can't remember the name.
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That's the one I was referring to at the $50-60 price point. I'm sure it's as close to perfect as possible, but at $50+ I'd rather pay the $99 deductible to get a full phone replacement considering I have the preferred plan
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That's the one I was referring to at the $50-60 price point. I'm sure it's as close to perfect as possible, but at $50+ I'd rather pay the $99 deductible to get a full phone replacement considering I have the preferred plan
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Lol....yes i get that but how many times can you RMA?
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force70 said:
Lol....yes i get that but how many times can you RMA?
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If it's only scratches... Once. Right before I re-sell my device because of the current defects I have, lol.
Then again, I wouldn't even have to pay the deductible for defects. Only if i break the screen or drown the phone in water which hopefully neither of those happen.
I got THIS one from Skinomi.
It doesn't interfere with any device functions or the camera, and is really heavy duty, but is not glass.
I've found these are very good for screen protection in rough environments. I test military weaponry and combat vehicles so I am outside, in the desert 80% of the time, so I've used screen protectors for years.
If your lifestyle isn't adverse to display surfaces, you could probably do without.
But on a $900 device, with my lifestyle, and job environment; I'll deal with a slightly ugly looking screen protector which has saved my device many times on random drops
This problem with the Pixel 2 XL is the curved screen. I haven't tried the glass and most have poor reviews and appear difficult to get the edges to adhere.
Even the Skinomi, that are usually great protectors, had a little difficulty sticking to one of the corners of my 2 XL.
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If your day to day lifestyle doesn't place your device in danger (drops, contact with hard objects, abusive conditions, etc.), you're probably good without a screen protector. If not, it's cheap insurance for random drops and rough handling.
I bought a Spigen glass.tr nano liquid thingy, which is some sort of SiO2 compound that you have to apply just like you use any glass wipe tissue. I never dared to start smashing it with my keys, but it should be adequate to help the screen intact & scratch-free from the smears & dust in your pockets. I actually applied it to the glass of the back camera as well, and the picture quality didn't decrease. The feel of touching the screen changed though, it feels a bit more rugged and less slippery, compared to a Galaxy S8 without any screen protection.
https://www.amazon.de/Displayschutzfolie-Spigen-Kompatibel-Installation-000GL21813/dp/B0774116F5/
Grab the InvisShield from SGFresh. It's great for the 2 XL. A little tedious to install, but great protection.