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Samsung has reportedly halted production of the Galaxy Note 7 in association with China and US authorities after several replacement units caught on fire.
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I read this but you know, out of how many million phones have been sold only 8 phones have caught fire. This doesn't mean all Note 7's are bad. In a mass produced item there is some fallout. Now this is a doozie no doubt but at least give Samsung a chance to investigate. I have a Note 7 and absolutely love it. If I have to send it back I will. But I aint gonna go turning it in just yet. It would be different if there were hundreds catching fire. But only 8 out of how many.... This just my opinion though.
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As of now, it's a temporary stop. Not permanent.
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This stop is likely a temporary one for safety until they can investigate all the reports. That way if there IS still a fault they have limited output. If there ISN'T them they can just restart.
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I read this but you know, out of how many million phones have been sold only 8 phones have caught fire. This doesn't mean all Note 7's are bad. In a mass produced item there is some fallout. Now this is a doozie no doubt but at least give Samsung a chance to investigate. I have a Note 7 and absolutely love it. If I have to send it back I will. But I aint gonna go turning it in just yet. It would be different if there were hundreds catching fire. But only 8 out of how many.... This just my opinion though.
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8 over what time frame? Curious to see if they rolled the dice how many of these would flame out over two years. I bet enough it would shock most people.
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My phone has been running like a champ.
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2nd deja vu happening again , now they are dealing with ion batteries not other hardware or anything , dont think samsung wants a third one , one thing i dont understand is why would they recall the whole set rather then recall the battery
Ugh, how could there be a second issue.
Anyone want to guess at the second issue?
Phone too thin? Part poking the battery? Battery not actually fixed? Different battery issue? Bad batteries made it in? Chemistry wrong?
It's over. Production won't be started again, stopping production is a massive thing and Samsung obviously know they have a design fault . Samsung will cut its losses and scrap the Note 7 because the brand is now ruined and trust is lost. Very sad.
I think it's more An economic decision. Until they are sure there's no problem, why continue production?
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I think it's more An economic decision. Until they are sure there's no problem, why continue production?
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If they were confident in their engineering and knew there was no problem they wouldn't stop. They obviously think there is a problem and are winding down. Theyre not going to say straight away there's a fault and "recall", it'll be "were looking into it". The phone is done for.
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8 over what time frame? Curious to see if they rolled the dice how many of these would flame out over two years. I bet enough it would shock most people.
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I'm just gonna wait and see what the say before I turn mine in. I can always go back to my N4 if need be. Dunno on your question, good point too and what plant they can be tracked to.. If they have multiple plants.
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Samsung has reportedly halted production of the Galaxy Note 7 in association with China and US authorities after several replacement units caught on fire.
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I really love N7 in term of hardware and what Samsung has done to the Note series to make it what it is today minus the problematic battery. Really hope they can bounce back for the N8. Shame that this may be the end of N7. With it, I do not know if there is a point of keeping the phone since halting production can also mean slow and can possibly stop software supports??!?!?
I'm just curious why there are no such cases in the rest of the world???it seems only in the US and in Taiwan ??
yes that's right
What ever is going on media is slowly killing the device... even me that loved and wanted this phone for ages are starting to wonder. I still doubt that any of new events are true but company like T-mobile with Apple help are killing this device. They don't need any proof they will be always able to fake an accident and this will be always a hit to Samsung... The best phone in world and with such problem it starts to become the worst... Who knows what will happen I'am still waiting for mine. Ordered on AUG17 and now should get it on OCT17 but this can always change. It's so SAD because with this N7 Samsung would 100% killed Apple and would have a more solid ground next year.
No explosion in EU, yet. Only in USA and Korea. Strange
mk89pwnz said:
What ever is going on media is slowly killing the device... even me that loved and wanted this phone for ages are starting to wonder. I still doubt that any of new events are true but company like T-mobile with Apple help are killing this device. They don't need any proof they will be always able to fake an accident and this will be always a hit to Samsung...
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This. If anything the last couple of weeks made me hate the media even more (if that's possible). Hate is a strong word but there's something fundamentally wrong in our society with the way news are transported. Most of these articles are so phony it screams staging.
Nobody knows the true extent of the numbers. Only Samsung and it's not going to ever reveal the true figures. Even if it says it has. However aggressive anyone feels about the news coverage, certain sites have done a lot to verify their sources. Problem is a large company like Samsung cannot move as fast, plus investigating all the issues is not a quick process.
Regardless of the above paragraph , Samsung would not have done the first recall, now be stopping production temporarily if there wasn't a real issue.
I do wonder why there have been no reports in the EU too. It could mean there haven't been any, and or Samsung silenced any that had arisen. Don't forget not everyone wants to take a photo and upload to social media.
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No explosion in EU, yet. Only in USA and Korea. Strange
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We have 230V with a fixed 'zero' and only Exynos models. Perhaps that has something to do with regards to the quickcharging? But only a few phones are delivered here.
I think the 'refurbished' phones after the recall are actually regular production line phones, but X-rayed, updated and repackaged. If the X-ray showed nothing, I think you could still have a gen1 phone that is now bursting into flames. I don't think they will go through the trouble of opening up 2,5m phones and replace the batteries. That is more labour and time intensive than to bring out new units for about $200-250 worth of materials.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/09/sams...ended-production-of-galaxy-note-7-report.html
Full statement is they are adjusting the supply to the demand. US customers which is probably their biggest base, don't want the phone anymore.
In a chat with US Cellular I was just told "with the recall, it will not be able to stay on your account much longer, due at some point, Samsung will be turning off all the phones on all carriers."
I asked when but she said they do not know the date yet.
She also said I could re activate my Note 7 (which I didn't think was allowed) if the Note 5 I purchased online doesn't work properly.
It is inevitable.
They will try to get everyone to return or exchange their Note 7s first. And then this kill switch to reach out to those who has been living under a rock.
Unless you root the device and circumvent the kill switch.
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Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.
BozQ said:
My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.
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I can understand that. That is until you start saying things like people "have a problem" and there is "something wrong" with people because they still have a note 7. Br0adband has said these things and worse.
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As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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what is more laughable is that he has never owned one. From memory he had/has an S7E and was thinking about upgrading (before all the shxtstorm).
I am willing to suffer a phone sizzle if it means I get a few more weeks with this fantastic phone. I understand the risks, they are significantly low, but I also understand the impact of a total battery failure (running without the 256G SD card currently to avoid damage to it in the event of the phone internally melting).
I do not appreciate BrOadbands incessant drilling of existing N7 users, worse than a 19 year old cop doing the "respect my authority" thing.
Only 2 phones have cooked in Australia, from the original batch (1 was a forum member on Whirlpool forums, the other Samsung indicated when they were quoting numbers), we were getting the second batch a bit later than you guys in the US which may have meant slightly improved production process (made in Vietnam though, if that means anything).
I am however(unfortunately) getting this replaced, as I do fly and the American FAA getting a bit nervous and doing the banning meant globally all airlines followed not to mention that Samsung are giving some financial incentives that may not last forever to replace with S7E/S7 (got told almost 2 weeks ago now by a local Samsung phone rep "your S7E is coming within 21 days"...)
I think part of the product pull by Samsung was not about an inherent fault in all units, but some inevitable butt covering, since the product reputation was tainted, no way to recover from that, the phone would be impossible to sell with all the transportation bans, and how many different battery icon colours could they use to indicate if you owned a v1,2 or 3 lol.
I do believe it had a higher than normal failure rate though, esp in the US, my speculation is the soft construction of the battery was allowing it to get sufficiently distorted during assembly that some further condition was causing battery failure for those excessively distorted (such as plate to plate crystal growth).
Edit: look at this discussion about li-ion failure modes: http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithium_failures.htm
Essentially, it says that the anode SEI layer can break down in as low temps as 80degC including from external heating. I know when we had that dodgy Ocululus update, my CPU when I checked was over 70degC and the whole phone was very warm due to very high current draw due to the max CPU load. So heat from both current draw from the battery, and external heat from the CPU getting toasty would not have helped any phone where the battery was also a little squashed/distorted when packed into the phone during assembly.
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NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8
ilordvader said:
NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8
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Are you in the UK?
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Are you in the UK?
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im in Dubai
Hope this Helps -
Is there a way to disable updates without root?
This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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CerveCesar said:
This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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Would have preferred they nerfed the CPU instead. And disable fast charge and wireless charging. All to prevent it from generating too much heat. Limiting to 60% probably isn't going to help much.
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If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?
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Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?
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Sorry. I didn't.
It was powered off for a few days. And I just got my V20. Turned it on to get some files out but I was shocked to find my Note 7 shut off. And then it rebooted and update my unit. And as expected, it was the 60% battery update.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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evo4g63t said:
If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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If you paid any attention to the pictures we were shown about the burned out phones. There was a a complete burn out and the phones were destroyed. Not a single phone was just damaged a little and stopped working. That shows the battery had a complete or near complete charge.
The batteries burned out completely because of the amount of charge held into them. Not because of their chemical composition. If you know what I mean.
If you ever worked with batteries; You'll know they get very hot and can expand as they overcharge. Thus expansion plus the new sharp aluminum frame inside, may have been 1 of the reasons for ignition we believe.
Keeping your charge at 60/80% lowers the risk of ignition by a lot.
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I actually think BroadBand or whatever actually did post a receipt of the purchase, although everyone knows you can find that on the internet. The person is a far-left lib/progressive who thinks their safe spaces are in jeopardy because a phone (Iphone 7 anyone??) may catch fire.
Anyway, I seriously, seriously doubt they will disable the phone completely. You bought the phone, and it is your phone. If you choose to use another battery inside the note 7, then press on (I have heard reports of folks trying this...it worked, but not sure of the specifics. One guy cracked his screen trying to get the battery out).
Plus, it is an FCC violation to disrupt a communications device. You don't know the person's circumstances. They may live on the fringe of civilization and haven't heard the news or didn't get the push. The first person that is harmed because their working phone was disabled will lead to humongous lawsuits.
A Sprint employee in Newnan Georgia told my daughter that Samsung would be shutting off her phone, and it was against the law for her to keep using. They pressured her hard, made her cry (she's young, first time away from home) because she couldn't get in touch with me. She didn't know what to do because she didn't want to get "arrested," which was the implication they were trying to make. She ended up getting pressured in a S7 because she was afraid of getting in trouble (and she is super furious for getting duped). She wanted to keep the phone until the release of the s8. She was in the store to pay her bill and they saw the phone sticking out of her pocket.
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By the way, Samsung has publicly stated that less than half of the phones were returned. That indicates a million or so are still out there.
I promise you, PROMISE YOU, that the very FIRST Note7 to catch fire despite the recall (because not being returned), would be splattered over every news channel.
How many post-recall reports of exploding batteries have we seen??? As far as I can tell, ZERO!!!! Don't mean it won't happen, but I think the danger is over-blown. Samsung did it because of the media coverage. A single injury (if they had not recalled) given the history of the phone would have resulted in 10s of millions of dollars in damages via litigation.
BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st
ilordvader said:
Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st
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I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)
BozQ said:
I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)
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I got this Notification few days back
so seem all get the Software update at the same time
I just watched a video on on the HTC U11+ and it looks pretty amazing - Larger battery, Wireless charging, Micro SD slot, Oreo with Sense, comparable bezel size. This device is being announced tomorrow.
What do you think?
aaronc_98 said:
I just watched a video on on the HTC U11 and it looks pretty amazing - Larger battery, Wireless charging, Micro SD slot, Oreo with Sense, comparable bezel size. This device is being announced tomorrow.
What do you think?
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It's been announced. Doesn't have wireless charging I think but apart from that it's a pretty solid device ?
I thought they said they saw a coil of some sort in the translucent model.
They thought the coil was for wireless charging.
I'm a Google fanboy so my opinion is always going to be biased. I would personally go with the pixel 2. Vanilla Android, great hardware, monthly updates and hopefully a great development community.
lukey-55 said:
It's been announced. Doesn't have wireless charging I think but apart from that it's a pretty solid device ?
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Is actually being announced later today and it definitely has wireless charging... It will also be very interesting to see how the screen compares to the 2XL
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aaronc_98 said:
Is actually being announced later today and it definitely has wireless charging... It will also be very interesting to see how the screen compares to the 2XL
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It has been announced and it looks like it's not even an option for US customers. Glad I grabbed the 2 XL and didn't wait for this.
https://www.droid-life.com/2017/11/02/htc-u11-plus-specs-us-availability/
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Is actually being announced later today and it definitely has wireless charging... It will also be very interesting to see how the screen compares to the 2XL
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It was announced a few hours ago and the coil at the back is the NFC band NOT for wireless charging.
Google it ?
pjsockett said:
It has been announced and it looks like it's not even an option for US customers. Glad I grabbed the 2 XL and didn't wait for this.
https://www.droid-life.com/2017/11/02/htc-u11-plus-specs-us-availability/
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Yep, I just read about it it's a bummer it doesn't seem to be coming to the u.s.
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As I said, no wireless charging, but everything else looks pretty good?
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As I said, no wireless charging, but everything else looks pretty good
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Yes, what a bummer, and it is not coming to the US anyway. Seems like it could be a great phone...
I was considering a 2XL return for the 11+ but since I can't get it here that makes my decision easier. I've had 5 HTC phones in the past. Looks like a really solid phone I hope it sells well and they end up bringing it over here.
I'm biased towards software/security update speeds. That's honestly my only bias. Otherwise I was always a fan of the Sense UI and HTC Phone design.
I've had HTC Phones all the way from the HTC Evo on Sprint, all the way until the HTC M8. After the M8 i went to Nexus 6P and haven't looked back due to software upgrade/update speeds
HTC make great hardware but I'll never buy from that company again. I've been burned twice by promised updates then them dropping support completely from a device within a year.
Will the u11+ get much support for custom ROMs ? If so what about AOSP ROMs ?
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U11 plus. No screen issues
AndrasLOHF said:
HTC make great hardware but I'll never buy from that company again. I've been burned twice by promised updates then them dropping support completely from a device within a year.
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Treble is supposed to solve that.
audioman42 said:
Treble is supposed to solve that.
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I would say treble would help. In the end it's expensive to keep updating phones hence why companies drop support so quickly. They lose money through all the testing and certifications and potentially lose a sale the next year (why buy a new phone when my current one is up to date). It's something rolled into the cost of Pixels that everyone forgets about. 3 years promised OS and monthly security updates is an expensive ass promise. You're not just paying for hardware.
I'm fortunate enough to be in the UK, but this announcement really threw me. I've got my 64GB Panda on preorder, but I'm seriously tempted to switch. There'd be no blue shift or potential screen issues, twice as much storage (and expandable by another 2TB), 2GB more RAM, IP68 and a camera that was only beaten by the Note and Pixel 2! All for £100 LESS than my preorder!
I'm actually struggling to find a reason NOT to cancel my preorder, except for HTC Sense and regular updates. Don't care about modding really, just want a phone that works!
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AndrasLOHF said:
HTC make great hardware but I'll never buy from that company again. I've been burned twice by promised updates then them dropping support completely from a device within a year.
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Couldn't agree more. This device looks really great but I currently have the HTC 10 and here in Europe we only received one (security) update since February. Despite my phone having serious battery issues with android 7.0. Apart from that HTC sells the phone and then doesn't care about its customers. It's a shame because they really make great hardware, but at that price I also expect good software support. I am now waiting for my pixel XL 2 to arrive in mid November :fingers-crossed:
I am thinking of canceling the XL-2 order and get a U11+. The quality control of XL-2 seems a bit worrying.
There seems to be official bootloader unlock for U11+? If so, we can flash AOSP so there won't be difference with Pixel.
But I like the Google GPU and USB-PD on Pixel.
Why Google chose taimen but not muskie
Usually, I don't really like topics like this.... But now I need your opinions, guys!
Accidentally smashed my op3 and now I need a new toy.
Already watched a massive amount of videos on YouTube about the razer phone. Love the style, the shape.
However, I'm still can't decide.
Razer or OP5T?
I'm waiting for your thoughts, opinions, etc.
Thanks in advance.
i had the razer phone i sent it back less than a week, dont get me wrong love the retro metallic build and speakers. but the software seems unfinished and non optimised. the screen as fluid as it is @ 120hz just cannot compare to the OP5T in vibrancy and the screen on the RP is just shockingly too dim (even the Nokia phones have brighter LCD Screens). the op5t just feels more polished and its software more snappy. I really REALLY REALLYYYYYYY wanted to like the Razer Phone, but OP5T just seems to me a much better overall package having used both. This is totes subjective of course ...
Gave away my s8 plus and got the Razer. Love it exept for the camera. Se what they will to when oreo hits. But If I where you i would go with 5T.
QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning
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QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning
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Yepp and still isn't any good in my opinion, sadly.
I've got both infront of me currently, struggling to decide.
Unfortunately the 5T is giving me a bit of trouble recently.
The others are right, the RP screen is absolutely darker than others, roughly 60% of the 5T brightness and colours can seem a little washed out due to AMOLED vs LCD.
Battery life isn't anything to shout about either really and don't get me started on the camera! jeez.
Lastly, and this might come as a shock, the 5T puts out more decibels than the razer phone, the last update really undermined the volume and now my 5T has about 15% more volume, not clearer of course, but yeh.
All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".
The one thing I don't like about the display is that it is "sunken". Nowadays most displays the glass and the picture are together, like you're literally touching the pictures. But on the Razer, you can tell that the picture is below the glass, which is weird as I haven't seen that in phones in the past 3 to 4 years at least. Not sure if I explained that correctly, but that's a con to me. I think mkhbd mentioned this in the preview video
I'm thinking about buy the phone to replace my LG V10 battery life pretty much bad on it and LG pressing trying me to buy a battery for it but they not selling it them from the website
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All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".
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LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.
after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.
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after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.
hunhool said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.
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you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)
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you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)
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Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.
hunhool said:
Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.
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You're right the development portion of the device is lacking on here but the company do bi weekly ask me anything on the subreddit so they're very vocal. If I'm honest the lack of support imo is because of the A/B partition (something the razer has) and the lack of sales due to it costing so much on release. Now it's went down and essential are implementing project treble it might get better via custom ROMs
But again that's not very important to me anymore.
greyhulk said:
LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.
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Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.
xocomaox said:
Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.
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Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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greyhulk said:
Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.
xocomaox said:
Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.
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I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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greyhulk said:
I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.
xocomaox said:
No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.
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I couldn't agree more. Yet every time I go into a store and play with one of the new iPads, I nearly pull the trigger for that 120hz display. I think if it was at least brighter, there would be no hesitation.
No way I can view 400 nits outside in a Texas summer, though.
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I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.
neilfer said:
I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.
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You didn't turn the sensor off in developer options did you? This will make the big screen unresponsive and stay off when you open it
neilfer said:
I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.
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Did you try a factory data reset?
lawtq
I have never been in the developer options so it cant be that.
Mr. Orange 645
A factory data reset didnt fix the problem.
neilfer said:
lawtq
I have never been in the developer options so it cant be that.
Mr. Orange 645
A factory data reset didnt fix the problem.
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Damn. Sounds like a real hardware problem. Hope the new one is flawless
A mates fold was shipped without download mode - really odd fault
Meh, the fail is strong with Samsung this year.
At least hold off a bit if you want this phone; let others take the ride before you decide.
Latter production runs might also have issues fixed by then.
Issues with the S21U are also cropping up.
lawtq said:
Damn. Sounds like a real hardware problem. Hope the new one is flawless
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I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.
neilfer said:
I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.
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LMFAO. You act like every phone has this issue. Sounds like you just don't really want it.
bs3pro said:
LMFAO. You act like every phone has this issue. Sounds like you just don't really want it.
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That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
neilfer said:
That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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I think the probability of getting two Folds in a row with defective screens is very low. You'll be fine.
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I think the probability of getting two Folds in a row with defective screens is very low. You'll be fine.
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Maybe not. Samsung's been imploding across the board this year. With their apps and multiple device hardware failures. No joke. Multiple threads on XDA of issues and phone returns.
Just had a Wearables update puke all over me last night. It has defied a solution so far and the Buds+ only work right on phone calls.
Never saw that before.
Samsung's Good Lock app homepage graphics look horrible now too with little critters jumping around.
The Fail is strong with Samsung... now.
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That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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If you really want it, then do the warranty exchange and get a new one. No product line is 100% perfect. There will always be defective units. But that doesn't mean every single device will fail within two weeks. That's the most asinine thing I've heard all day.
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If you really want it, then do the warranty exchange and get a new one. No product line is 100% perfect. There will always be defective units. But that doesn't mean every single device will fail within two weeks. That's the most asinine thing I've heard all day.
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The best possible failure scenario is that a device does it within its return window.
So the OP was lucky in that respect.
I be pi$$ed too for all that trouble.
Meh... once bitten, twice shy.
If you preordered, Samsung included Care+ for 1 year for free. Not sure if this is offered outside of the US. It's really a great device kind of a game changer for me.
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Maybe not. Samsung's been imploding across the board this year. With their apps and multiple device hardware failures. No joke. Multiple threads on XDA of issues and phone returns.
Just had a Wearables update puke all over me last night. It has defied a solution so far and the Buds+ only work right on phone calls.
Never saw that before.
Samsung's Good Lock app homepage graphics look horrible now too with little critters jumping around.
The Fail is strong with Samsung... now.
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Samsung isn't imploding. Realize that they sell tens of millions of devices and a small minority of people who purchase their products are here complaining about things on XDA. There is no widespread news coverage of Samsung making faulty devices, well, not since the Note 7. Your post is an exaggeration.
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That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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What he is trying to say is everyone phone ever released had failures in the 1st few weeks. Its not abnormal and why they have a warranty.
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Samsung isn't imploding. Realize that they sell tens of millions of devices and a small minority of people who purchase their products are here complaining about things on XDA. There is no widespread news coverage of Samsung making faulty devices, well, not since the Note 7. Your post is an exaggeration.
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Time will tell
Just order my second new 10+.
I don't share your optimism or wuv of storage deficient devices.
My first 10+ still looks, runs like it's new, fast, stable and fulfilling it's mission with 1tb of storage, soon to be expanded to 1.5tb.
I rejected the Note 20U because of poorer run time, Adroid 10, poorer color rendering and unreasonable price. Not enough bang for the buck.
So imagine what I think about every release from Samsung since then... and I'm not near as kind as you.
2021 is already a dead year for Sammy
neilfer said:
I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.
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That's a good choice... Look for golden reviewer on YouTube and you'll see that this phone while it has Snapdragon 888 performs even worse than 855/865 phones lmao.
It throttles so hard that on games that other phones run at 90fps+ it scores 30 FPS sustained with dips below 10 FPS lmao ( pubg and genshin )
It's a shet performer, buy yourself a better device
Rstment ^m^ said:
That's a good choice... Look for golden reviewer on YouTube and you'll see that this phone while it has Snapdragon 888 performs even worse than 855/865 phones lmao.
It throttles so hard that on games that other phones run at 90fps+ it scores 30 FPS sustained with dips below 10 FPS lmao ( pubg and genshin )
It's a shet performer, buy yourself a better device
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There's literally a setting to make it run at max capability. From factory it doesn't run at max. You just flip the setting and it will run at max. They did it to preserve battery. Because realistically only games will utilize the entire power of an 888.
Phone cpus are progressing faster than use case. Oneplus just got in a debacle about this, mainly because they did it without giving you the ability to stop the throttling.