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Anyone else's gnex have these weird "blotches" on a totally black screen?

I had to up the contrast quite a bit for what I am talking about to show up in a photo, but you can see it here: http://i.imgur.com/TLYe4.jpg
When my screen is totally black, there are 2 "blotches" of the screen that are darker than the rest. They are not image defects, as it happens on any totally black screen.
I like this phone, but all these screen issues are annoying!

what rom kernel?

zephiK said:
what rom kernel?
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Completely stock Android 4.0.2
EDIT: Because you look like you know what you're talking about, I might as well ask you another question here
If I follow these instructions to flash 4.0.4 yakju on my phone currently running 4.0.2 yakjuux, must I be rooted, or will unlocking the bootloader be enough to upgrade?

I have these too. Even at exact location. But i notice it only at totally dark room.

maybe if you still have your trial period you can return it and get another one? ... ive never noticed these but those issues seem very minor
i know if you flash a kernel with colorcontrol you might be able to tune it to the way you like it.

zephiK said:
maybe if you still have your trial period you can return it and get another one? ... ive never noticed these but those issues seem very minor
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Ehh, I'm with WIND mobile here and they tend to just exchange your phone with one that someone else has returned. I am probably just gonna deal with it. It's certainly not noticeable in every day use, it's just something I noticed while looking at my screen last night in the dark.

As a workaround, you can change your wallpaper so its not dark dark dark

blackdesp said:
I have these too. Even at exact location. But i notice it only at totally dark room.
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I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.

Matt08642 said:
I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.
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Google only does the software. Samsung does the hardware.
If anything blame Samsung. There is always a chance of a defect when it comes to production.
But yeah.. it'll have updates from Google and dev support.

Matt08642 said:
I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.
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we have to suffer for these issues as early adopters for 720p super amoled screens. I think these are not QC issues. These are the known issues for a still developing technology.

blackdesp said:
we have to suffer for these issues as early adopters for 720p super amoled screens. I think these are not QC issues. These are the known issues for a still developing technology.
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If future gen screens are free of these problems I'll definitely still be all for them

that is a common manufacture defect of amoled screens not just our 720p screens. theres people on the razr forums complaining of this too and motorola said its a manufacturing defect that affects lots of amoled screens. i suspect lots of people have this problem just that they dont notice since you cant see them under normal use.
i have these black splotches too but can only see them when i put a black screen in a dark room, never see them when i use normally or watching videos.

neotekz said:
that is a common manufacture defect of amoled screens not just our 720p screens. theres people on the razr forums complaining of this too and motorola said its a manufacturing defect that affects lots of amoled screens. i suspect lots of people have this problem just that they dont notice since you cant see them under normal use.
i have these black splotches too but can only see them when i put a black screen in a dark room, never see them when i use normally or watching videos.
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I'm interested in what causes this problem. Any links to info/causes?
EDIT: So many things about this phone have made me want to take it back, but then I realize I already have the best phone on the best carrier in Canada! I hate the lack of selection here, lol.

Matt08642 said:
I'm interested in what causes this problem. Any links to info/causes?
EDIT: So many things about this phone have made me want to take it back, but then I realize I already have the best phone on the best carrier in Canada! I hate the lack of selection here, lol.
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you have the best phone anywhere, not just canada. other phones might be better at certain things but overall the nexus is still the best until the htc one s or gs3 comes out. You are going to find problems with any phone out there most are a lot worst than the ones on the nexus.
i dunno about Wind being the best carrier in canada though...lol i was pretty close to switching to them but just didnt want to deal with all the roaming stuff.

neotekz said:
you have the best phone anywhere, not just canada. other phones might be better at certain things but overall the nexus is still the best until the htc one s or gs3 comes out. You are going to find problems with any phone out there most are a lot worst than the ones on the nexus.
i dunno about Wind being the best carrier in canada though...lol i was pretty close to switching to them but just didnt want to deal with all the roaming stuff.
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I mean best carrier in the sense that everything is unlimited. I rarely ever leave the city so it's good for me.
I am currently in customer service hell. They sent me a full month's bill after 7 days of service, and I can't get a straight answer as to why. Tried calling their service center and was hung up on 3 times in a row.

From my understanding, it's due to pixel pre-charging and/or bad threshold calibration. All of the pixels are kept on just a tiny amount even on black screens to produce smoother a smoother display. It takes a lot longer to turn on an LED from rest than to just bump up the brightness a bit. The LED subpixels are held just above their on/off threshold to give relatively deep blacks with smooth light/dark transitions. In theory this works, because it assumes that each LED is perfectly calibrated and they all have an exact on/off threshold. In reality though, we know that no two LEDs are the same. Some have higher thresholds and some have lower than others. This equates to some deadspots and some bright patches on black screens.
Then again, it could just be a badly manufactured screen or some other issue.
Also, some people say that they never saw anything like pre-charging on other OLED screens like on the GSII, but that's because the GSII has a much lower resolution. The Nexus has a much higher resolution, which means a lot more pixels to push, which means there's a lot more light coming out of black screens. That's what gives some Nexus screens that LCD-Backlight look when in dark rooms. That's a non-issue.

Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards

My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.

A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?

Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.

510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?

DawarAzhar said:
What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?

I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.

DawarAzhar said:
I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.

G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides

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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though

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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.

Quickdraw996 said:
I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.

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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.

UK three Razer

Simply.wihld liek to know if the Razer from Three has any bloatware at all?
Any downsides from buying a Razer from Three guys?

Apart from a Three logo on boot no there's nothing

I can confirm that too. That's it! ?

I'm running the UK Three build and I've noticed no bloat ware from them at all. Three have their WiFi calling already enabled in the settings and the odd few texts about service and recommended apps it's very clean.

Thanks to you all ?

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Simply.wihld liek to know if the Razer from Three has any bloatware at all?
Any downsides from buying a Razer from Three guys?
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Apart from a Three logo on boot no there's nothing
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Ma99ots said:
I can confirm that too. That's it! ?
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Lads, does three supply a Screen Protector and/or case in the box?

dillalade said:
Lads, does three supply a Screen Protector and/or case in the box?
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Nope you get the exact same as the unlocked version you have to buy the case and screen protector separately

Roxas598 said:
Nope you get the exact same as the unlocked version you have to buy the case and screen protector separately
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Orzly seems the inly decent choice, unless you can enlighten me with a better option

dillalade said:
Orzly seems the inly decent choice, unless you can enlighten me with a better option
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Can't atm tried to get some from Orzly it went missing in the post and they informed me today they have non left and won't have any stock of them until the end of the week.
I bought some other ones of eBay earlier so have to wait and see if they arrive and good quality, I wouldn't personally pay the £25 razer want for a piece of glass.

Roxas598 said:
Can't atm tried to get some from Orzly it went missing in the post and they informed me today they have non left and won't have any stock of them until the end of the week.
I bought some other ones of eBay earlier so have to wait and see if they arrive and good quality, I wouldn't personally pay the £25 razer want for a piece of glass.
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Ok cheers.
Yeh i calles orzly an hour ago, temperes glass in stock today so I should receive on wednesday. Have to wait for the case.
Tell me are you loving this phone or is it merely good enough

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Ok cheers.
Yeh i calles orzly an hour ago, temperes glass in stock today so I should receive on wednesday. Have to wait for the case.
Tell me are you loving this phone or is it merely good enough
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Well what I was told today must have been a lie....That company always screens dodgy to me half the time I try to get on their offical site it redirects me to some **** or doesn't work.
The phone is great although I have a problem with build quality on mine (speaker grill is coming away from the phone) and the vibration motor trust me you'll want to shut it off but apart from that it's good. If you're looking for a phone with amazing speakers look no further if you don't care about the speakers look eslewhere i'd say.

Roxas598 said:
Well what I was told today must have been a lie....That company always screens dodgy to me half the time I try to get on their offical site it redirects me to some **** or doesn't work.
The phone is great although I have a problem with build quality on mine (speaker grill is coming away from the phone) and the vibration motor trust me you'll want to shut it off but apart from that it's good. If you're looking for a phone with amazing speakers look no further if you don't care about the speakers look eslewhere i'd say.
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Yea ive heard about the vibration motor issue. I tend notnto use vibration.
What about the speed and over all responsiveness. Is it as precedent as the reviews state. Where they say its the best most responsive Android theyve experienced to date.
Apoligise for my typos my current phone has UI issues beyond my control. Thanks again

dillalade said:
Yea ive heard about the vibration motor issue. I tend notnto use vibration.
What about the speed and over all responsiveness. Is it as precedent as the reviews state. Where they say its the best most responsive Android theyve experienced to date.
Apoligise for my typos my current phone has UI issues beyond my control. Thanks again
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Yeah it's responsive and fast just as smooth as the pixels if I'm honest so you'll have no issue there but the camera isn't great atm remember that with the choice too.

Roxas598 said:
Yeah it's responsive and fast just as smooth as the pixels if I'm honest so you'll have no issue there but the camera isn't great atm remember that with the choice too.
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Yes I've heard camera.is straight poo.
But don't care
Just want a blistering experience otherwise

Still finding my ground with the phone and OS, I did go and buy the rugged case and razer screen protector but a grain of fluff got trapped during the apply stage to pulled it off in temper breaking the screen protector - they really arent for me.
The phone seems to be fine for general use, the camera isnt amazing but works, the battery is fantastic for on the go and have had no issues with battery life so far.
Performance on 4G and Wifi i havent seen an issue with so generally if i see no problem things are fine.
Generally Happy with the phone spec and performance however in the back of my mind i wish i went with a Google Pixel as I dont like all the issues with updates and have been too use to iOS kinda lifestyle - 1 update rolls out to all devices at once regardless of model and carrier.
Still an Android noob

Is coming with three app what is from play store and another app that I disable it . Don't know what this does . I am presuming for service like wuntu and three app .

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Still finding my ground with the phone and OS, I did go and buy the rugged case and razer screen protector but a grain of fluff got trapped during the apply stage to pulled it off in temper breaking the screen protector - they really arent for me.
The phone seems to be fine for general use, the camera isnt amazing but works, the battery is fantastic for on the go and have had no issues with battery life so far.
Performance on 4G and Wifi i havent seen an issue with so generally if i see no problem things are fine.
Generally Happy with the phone spec and performance however in the back of my mind i wish i went with a Google Pixel as I dont like all the issues with updates and have been too use to iOS kinda lifestyle - 1 update rolls out to all devices at once regardless of model and carrier.
Still an Android noob
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Cool
Yes the android ecosystem is different to iOS due to multiple manufacturers of the hw.
Your right if you wanted the iOS type update facility then Pixel is the connoisseurs choice

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Yes the android ecosystem is different to iOS due to multiple manufacturers of the hw.
Your right if you wanted the iOS type update facility then Pixel is the connoisseurs choice
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@dillalade thanks for that hopefully Razer stick to the word on 2 years worth of updates and their regular enough. Fingers cross Three UK handle these updates in a timely manor too as so many company's involved in updating a OS these days Google > Razor > Three UK.
I really wish that it was more simple like iOS same things just apple dealt with the builds themselves and carriers didn't get the chance to adjust settings for their company services.
Just really like having the power and battery at hand for when its needed and I am not a heavy gamer I have hearthstone and apart from that Netflix and other google apps its pretty clean once i uninstalled the pre install apps from Three UK. Mind you i left the billing and data one as I handy on my old iPhone and actually a reasonable app.

What android does the phone ship with, 6.1.1 or 7?

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What android does the phone ship with, 6.1.1 or 7?
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7.1.1 with 8.0 due in Q1 2018

Thinking of selling..

Hey all,
I bought this phone thinking it was going to be a sea of development given the "gamer" friendly tags that were constantly thrown about, but development is almost literally non-existent and as such, this is really not the device for me. I would almost happily switch back to my OnePlus 3 at this point, just so I could play around with it, try out different ROMs and enjoy the variety you get from a phone with great support. Right now, I am pretty much bored with the phone. And with such a bad camera on such a premium device, I'm actually a bit annoyed at it's price point too..
Now, I've got a few minor scrapes on the edges from a drop here or there, but the hardware is perfectly functioning. What do you think I should put it up for?
(I'm in UK)

Development should take off once Oreo is released due to treble support (check the treble thread for proof of lineage booting)
However ATM with nougat there's nothing. Tbh this A/B partitioning thing is what causes all these development issues it's why I hate it.

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Development should take off once Oreo is released due to treble support (check the treble thread for proof of lineage booting)
However ATM with nougat there's nothing. Tbh this A/B partitioning thing is what causes all these development issues it's why I hate it.
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The A/B thing doesn't appear to help no.
I'm going to dump this for something older. Maybe sell this for ~£400.
Should give me enough to get a OnePlus 5T or HTC U11 or Xiaomi MI6.

kickassdave said:
The A/B thing doesn't appear to help no.
I'm going to dump this for something older. Maybe sell this for ~£400.
Should give me enough to get a OnePlus 5T or HTC U11 or Xiaomi MI6.
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You might not get £400 for it. I paid £400 for a brand new unsealed one a month or so ago so yours being used will knock a bit off.
Saying that if you can I'd sell it now and hold off on OP6 if you can and if you can't afford the OP6 the 5T should drop a bit online that's if you can wait a bit.
If you can't out of all of those id get the 5T (and then flash lineage OS) I don't trust OP software anymore.

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You might not get £400 for it. I paid £400 for a brand new unsealed one a month or so ago so yours being used will knock a bit off.
Saying that if you can I'd sell it now and hold off on OP6 if you can and if you can't afford the OP6 the 5T should drop a bit online that's if you can wait a bit.
If you can't out of all of those id get the 5T (and then flash lineage OS) I don't trust OP software anymore.
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I'll settle happily for ~£350. Already bought a Mi Mix 2. Good dev support, massive big screen, Snap 835. Winner. I'll get my money back on that.

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I'll settle happily for ~£350. Already bought a Mi Mix 2. Good dev support, massive big screen, Snap 835. Winner. I'll get my money back on that.
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Didn't realise the mi mix had good dev support, how much it cost you?

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Didn't realise the mi mix had good dev support, how much it cost you?
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£340 shipping from HK to UK.
Gearbest.com

kickassdave said:
£340 shipping from HK to UK.
Gearbest.com
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Oof be careful you don't get hit with import fee's

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Oof be careful you don't get hit with import fee's
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Even if I do, it's never as bad as people make out. Like £20 max.
Bought a Mi5 before from a similar company and it was minimal.

kickassdave said:
Even if I do, it's never as bad as people make out. Like £20 max.
Bought a Mi5 before from a similar company and it was minimal.
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I got hit with £90 for importing the essential phone so it can be more than you think.

If you want to sell, I'd recommend CEX they offer a decent price for it.
But the person above is correct, you can easily get them around £350 - £400 brand new or brand new condition.
Otherwise try your luck on gumtree, but be safe out there. I've been burned in the past using them.
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Give it a little time till the official android 8.1 update comes out
The main reason to why the community has been dry is because project treble has not yet been officially released and since the 8.1 preview, things are looking good.
Be patient a little and we will see.

I can't give it any more time. I'm literally having more fun right now messing around with my old Xiaomi Mi 5!
New phone on it's way and happy to sell this for £300/£350.

kickassdave said:
I can't give it any more time. I'm literally having more fun right now messing around with my old Xiaomi Mi 5!
New phone on it's way and happy to sell this for £300/£350.
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Thats up to you bro. Thats what i would do because you can go back to oneplus anyways. I would wait.

It's a shame as this best phone out, but reading all the issues about hardware fails and bad camera, no wireless charging, no ROMs, etc etc. I'm sticking with my Moto z (and that has similar lack of support!). And believe me I really wanted to ditch and get a Razer, but I just couldn't justify it!
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I was also head over when this phone was announced and released. Am glad I took my time because the lack of development support would have driven me nuts!. Price wise these are definitely falling. There was an offer recently if I remember correctly when mobiles.co were selling the phone on a £30 a month contract with 30gb of data a month! That was cheap but perhaps a reflection of the falling demand and prices.

I just bought a used one! It'll be here probably Wednesday or Thursday.

Think I will be selling mine in a week or so, I can't handle not having even one ROM to play with, can't believe the lack of development I thought this would have had developers all over this to test and enhance this powerful and exciting device. Its a sad day for all razer phone owners. P. S I do respect developers and time and effort they put into creating the roms and mods respect to all

Food for Thought perhaps...
my previous five phones have been Sony I've loved them, my last Sony the xz1 performed abysmally such that I jumped ship for the Razor with its enhanced screen capabilities and superior RAM architecture.
So I just recently purchased the Sony xz2 for my girlfriend which has the 845 processor I believe.
In a nutshell having used the Razor and then playing with this new xz2 I was shocked at how backward that xz2 felt compared to the blistering fast experience that I'm experiencing on our razor.
The xz2 felt sluggish in direct comparison.
Therefore leaving me with a very sweet taste in hanging on to the Razer.
The 835 cpu, 8gb DDR4 RAM with the 120Hz screen.
Honestly no phone out there today reacts and loads quicker then the Razer.
But I hear and do appreciate there are some compromises with the Razer.
But the good far outweigh the bad in my circumstance.

dillalade said:
Food for Thought perhaps...
my previous five phones have been Sony I've loved them, my last Sony the xz1 performed abysmally such that I jumped ship for the Razor with its enhanced screen capabilities and superior RAM architecture.
So I just recently purchased the Sony xz2 for my girlfriend which has the 845 processor I believe.
In a nutshell having used the Razor and then playing with this new xz2 I was shocked at how backward that xz2 felt compared to the blistering fast experience that I'm experiencing on our razor.
The xz2 felt sluggish in direct comparison.
Therefore leaving me with a very sweet taste in hanging on to the Razer.
The 835 cpu, 8gb DDR4 RAM with the 120Hz screen.
Honestly no phone out there today reacts and loads quicker then the Razer.
But I hear and do appreciate there are some compromises with the Razer.
But the good far outweigh the bad in my circumstance.
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The problem is.... I LOVE the ROM flashing scene. I love tinkering with the OS and getting a feel for different ROMs and their features. Completely baron in here unfortunately and it is for that reason almost entirely that I gave up.
I get bored with phones too quick. Flashing new ROMs always breathes little doses of fresh air back in to them and keeps you interested. Depending on who you are of course.

Question Anyone else have Green Bar down their dispaly?

I was a work with my phone on my desk and when I went to pick it up there a green bar down the right side of the screen. this phone is only 1 week old. i cropped the picture due to not wanting to have faces on the internet lol, but its the whole side.

Looks like the display is broken. Those kinds of lines appear when there's a fault.

That definitely looks like your display has gone bye-bye. I mean you could always try a factory reset, but I highly doubt it will help in any way.
Might be hardware fault, might be drop damage, or something else.
In any case, you need a replacement.

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That definitely looks like your display has gone bye-bye. I mean you could always try a factory reset, but I highly doubt it will help in any way.
Might be hardware fault, might be drop damage, or something else.
In any case, you need a replacement.
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I contacted the google insurance company and they are sending me a new one.

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I contacted the google insurance company and they are sending me a new one.
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That's good to hear. Nice that it worked out so quickly for you.
I am a bit surprised. Usually Googles support is mediocre and a joke, but I have not yet a single story about the P6 support that was terrible.

Morgrain said:
That's good to hear. Nice that it worked out so quickly for you.
I am a bit surprised. Usually Googles support is mediocre and a joke, but I have not yet a single story about the P6 support that was terrible.
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Im guessing since this is a company they contract with it may be a little easier. my first 6pro slipped while putting a case on it and it cracked. so this a replacement for that one. i didn't have to go through google for this process. they do have lackluster customer service.

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I contacted the google insurance company and they are sending me a new one.
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If the 2nd one's a dud get a full refund... if purchased with a MC or Visa inform the bank of the issue... document.

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If the 2nd one's a dud get a full refund... if purchased with a MC or Visa inform the bank of the issue... document.
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wil do. thank you

make sure it is not a refurbished phone too

The green line thing seems to be a "common" defect on OLED screens. I've seen posts of it happened to Samsung, OnePlus, Apple, and Google devices. It's reported to be an electrical fault so I'd definitely get it replaced.

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The green line thing seems to be a "common" defect on OLED screens. I've seen posts of it happened to Samsung, OnePlus, Apple, and Google devices. It's reported to be an electrical fault so I'd definitely get it replaced.
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There are more problems with the variable frequency refresh rate displays in general.
Color rendering/calibration suffers as well. This model though just seems to have display issues a plenty.
Yours was a defective unit that never should've passed QC. WTF?
I recently went with a second new N10+ because the issues with the variable rate displays; poor color rendering is very noticeable to me and for other reasons. Both displays are dead on perfect.
After 2 years of heavy usage I can find no signs of screen degradation on the oldest one. These are solid work horses that look and run great.
The newest isn't necessarily the best candidate...

blackhawk said:
There are more problems with the variable frequency refresh rate displays in general.
Color rendering/calibration suffers as well. This model though just seems to have display issues a plenty.
Yours was a defective unit that never should've passed QC. WTF?
I recently went with a second new N10+ because the issues with the variable rate displays; poor color rendering is very noticeable to me and for other reasons. Both displays are dead on perfect.
After 2 years of heavy usage I can find no signs of screen degradation on the oldest one. These are solid work horses that look and run great.
The newest isn't necessarily the best candidate...
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I def understand that. just though they would have figured alot of the kinks out. I am using my oneplus 9 pro until they figure it out. having to argue with them that 1:30pm is before 2:30pm...ugh

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I def understand that. just though they would have figured alot of the kinks out. I am using my oneplus 9 pro until they figure it out. having to argue with them that 1:30pm is before 2:30pm...ugh
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Get a refund and chill until something good comes along.
The only manufacturer I really hawk is Samsung and this year has been a disaster. It seems it's across the board with most of the manufacturers and not just the displays.
Trying to integrate a functional UI for Android 10, and especially 11 and 12 hasn't helped one bit. Even Google struggles with the mess they engineered.
Lol, how deep will this rabbit hole go?
Developers are estimating 2-3 years to straighten out scoped storage alone. Variable refresh rate has turned into a color calibration* nightmare. Add the mess of 5G implementation* to that mix. Issues aren't isolated but common on all the newer devices it seems. 2021 has sucked for Android, I think 2022 will be just as bad.
My confidence level isn't high... this fubar won't be cleaned up soon.
*Google Android should've put their energy and resources into properly implementing these critical features instead of scoped storage as even Android 9 is secure if used properly.

blackhawk said:
Get a refund and chill until something good comes along.
The only manufacturer I really hawk is Samsung and this year has been a disaster. It seems it's across the board with most of the manufacturers and not just the displays.
Trying to integrate a functional UI for Android 10, and especially 11 and 12 hasn't helped one bit. Even Google struggles with the mess they engineered.
Lol, how deep will this rabbit hole go?
Developers are estimating 2-3 years to straighten out scoped storage alone. Variable refresh rate has turned into a color calibration* nightmare. Add the mess of 5G implementation* to that mix. Issues aren't isolated but common on all the newer devices it seems. 2021 has sucked for Android, I think 2022 will be just as bad.
My confidence level isn't high... this fubar won't be cleaned up soon.
*Google Android should've put their energy and resources into properly implementing these critical features instead of scoped storage as even Android 9 is secure if used properly.
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I know who your allegiance is with now. My Pixel so far has been rock solid,as was my V40 and 60 before it.

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
I know who your allegiance is with now. My Pixel so far has been rock solid,as was my V40 and 60 before it.
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I use whatever comes in handy... and looks/works well.
The Pixel UI is barren and dysfunction in my opinion. This what a stock N10+ UI homepage can look like.
I'm glad you're having a good experience...