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Hi!
I am currently working on a new version of TouchXperience website where I will try to keep you frequently updated about project progress and releases. The new website is community-oriented so if you have any questions, suggestions, or if you would like to contribute in my projects, you are free to take part in forum or wiki. Support will be maintained on TouchXperience forum in the future.
As you know I don't have a lot of free time (and a free PC at the moment) to care of TouchXperience project and website, and I have limited knowledge in website content/forum/wiki management, so I would be glad if some of you were willing to help me. But I'm looking for serious/professional people, to moderate forums, to help users and post frequently asked questions,... everything you want to contribute in TouchXperience website life! The best would be if you have good knowledge in CMS, webdesign, forum/wiki management that could help me to improve website.
Thank you in advance!
ready to help
i'm a bussy man too! but in afternoons and nights i'm online so I can support your forum with my experiences.
i'm already there !!!
gretz!
nice page, well idea with forum
im in
I wouldn't mind giving a bit of my time, I can help with:
*FAQ management
*Posting answers to questions
*Writing articles for wikis ect
*General forum stuff
Give me a shout if you want to talk it over more
Im also an admin on Touch-innovation, and im sure we would love to help promote your work even more
me!!!!
got enough experience on all faculties - cms (joomla - as ur site is built on that!), wiki, forum... and integrating all of them!
.... if u need proof of what i am doing currently... just send me a pm!
Schaps, I wish I could help but I am not familiar with any of that stuff. However, I do want to say the site is looking good! And I think this new interactive site is a GREAT idea. TWO THUMBS UP FOR SCHAPS!
I'm in..
I can help what I knew as well as post suggestions/question.
oops
I tried to go to your website while at work. I went to thetouchexperience.com which happens to be an adult sex toy.
ricrellim said:
I tried to go to your website while at work. I went to thetouchexperience.com which happens to be an adult sex toy.
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Sorry buddy, if you love porn this is not the site. Schap's is www.touchxperience.com not the one you mentioned.
Nice joomla
Count me in ... I'll work with Veyka to update stuff there if you wish. Even though I won't be doing any testing my self don't like touchflo/animation/etc on a hermes screen with edges!
Php and and MySql skills. Not too much time available but let's do it!!
Nico
For the record I was not trying to promote the other site. I was simply trying to prevent someone from making the same mistake at work as I did. Thanks for the real address.
I'm curious... What's wrong with the XDA-Developers wiki & forums?
Why do you feel the need to split off from XDA dev to somewhere else?
CRCinAU said:
I'm curious... What's wrong with the XDA-Developers wiki & forums?
Why do you feel the need to split off from XDA dev to somewhere else?
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Well on the last thread there were a lot of blathering jackasses that were making stupid posts *****ing at each other and *****ing about how long the development is taking which pissed everybody off and eventually got the thread closed. This seems to be the newest and only TouchXperience thread?
-P.S. Schaps, count me in to help with the new site.
fredline12002 said:
Well on the last thread there were a lot of blathering jackasses that were making stupid posts *****ing at each other and *****ing about how long the development is taking which pissed everybody off and eventually got the thread closed.
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That's what the triangle with the exclamation mark is made for, so one can report such posts for the moderators to take care of.
I can help with Forum and SEO
I´m a webdesigner and systemadministrator, i would be happy if i could help you with your project
fredline12002 said:
Well on the last thread there were a lot of blathering jackasses that were making stupid posts *****ing at each other and *****ing about how long the development is taking which pissed everybody off and eventually got the thread closed. This seems to be the newest and only TouchXperience thread?
-P.S. Schaps, count me in to help with the new site.
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However, all this will mean is that the blathering jackasses will then be blathering on a different forum? I guess I fail to see the benefits... lol
Hell yeah
Count me in...
You can contact me in PM
- Forum moderation
- Updating site
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However, all this will mean is that the blathering jackasses will then be blathering on a different forum? I guess I fail to see the benefits... lol
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lol I guess we'll see and hope for the best?
Title says it all. I would donate for this. Its droid x 2.3.3 with new blur.
Heres a link
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-5-596-release-thread-something-everyone.html
Dude I think you should've posted this in the general section but whatever. Ask Virus he's the best at porting roms from what I've seen
I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long
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I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long
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Thank u sir. Remember if u get it done a donation will head ur way
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I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!
this is contributing to development not asking why my ___________ doesnt work or How to you ____________
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this is contributing to development not asking why my ___________ doesnt work or How to you ____________
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OK....Now I'm not trying to start anything here BUT what I got from what you said was that as long as you ask for a rom to be port over that is OK to post in the development section?
Now like I said before, I'm not trying to police this forum or any forum for that matter but I was just saying how I've seen there's a double standard for things like this. Last time I checked, rules are rules right? I'm not on here to gain any friends or make any enemies but I don't like how people jump on newbies for common mistakes but is cool if a so called senior member make mistakes......
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I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!
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Clark44 also contributes to the forum instead of just leaching, plus he has an awesome avatar.
Although it does seem like anytime a new ROM for another phone gets released it gets posted here before it does in their own section.
Guys chill. Vinchen is going to see what he can do but most of the time we work together. I dont just ask for something and expect it to come out of no where at any time. I actually contribute so can this not be about me and become about the ROM??
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Guys chill. Vinchen is going to see what he can do but most of the time we work together. I dont just ask for something and expect it to come out of no where at any time. I actually contribute so can this not be about me and become about the ROM??
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Is cool dude...I didn't mean to attack you or anything like that! I was just airing out what I see here in this forum lately and it just happen that you posted this and I saw no one jumped on you like they do on the newbies.
No hard feelings....I hope! AND yeah, I agree with you....let's get talking about the ROM.
mazdarider23 said:
I find it funny that if a newbie posts something in the wrong section, a million "Senior Members" jump on him/her like crazy but you "Clark44" can do it and everyone's cool with it just because you say you're going to donate if someone ports yet ANOTHER rom you like....hahaha...I'm not going to sit here and try to police the forums but looks like there's a double standard here!
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hmm porting = dev work
CheesyNutz said:
hmm porting = dev work
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Stay on topic lol
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Funny how good and good intentions can quickly go south!!!!
T.E.A.M.W.O.R.K.
Hmmmm!
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eVoKINGS said:
Hmmmm!
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Lol i see a port comin from our king
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eVoKINGS said:
Hmmmm!
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Have at it king, I took a quick stab and i think its the updater script that came with the rom...didn't seem to be flashing right...but its 4 am and I've got alot of work tomorrow, so...night everyone
Please be aware that porting is serious work! Will give it a shot no promises! Alot is envolved! Thanks
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This would be sweet ! My girlfriends got a Droid x and it would be funny to get her update before her LOL. I think it will be mostly hardware issue that the devs will have to face when porting this. It would be really cool to play with a blur phone LOL
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I'm already downloading it...shouldn't take too long
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+1 on that port I was checking it out I would like to see what this would be like on an Evo btw I'm on the Skyraider port this thing is amazing I usually don't run I ROM with no 4g but I love this ROM and I'm living without it.
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Just to clear things up, this isn't actually a Dev thread. It's a request, and therefore should not be in dev.
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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Interested in testing Project Llama for the Wildfire S (marvel)?
You must pass the following
- Be able to use adb and gather CLEAN logcats
- Be able to speak understandable English
- Be able to communicate with me well
- Not be a jerk, and actually help me if I provide you with a ZIP.
If you'e interested drop me a PM or just post on this thread, I'm only really looking for 3 people max. Don't come to me if you don't meet the above.
Thanks,
- Benjamin :good:
P.S. If you're wondering why I can't test myself, then it's because I no longer own this phone.
Hi benjamina, I'm here
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Interested in testing Project Llama for the Wildfire S (marvel)?
You must pass the following
- Be able to use adb and gather CLEAN logcats
- Be able to speak understandable English
- Be able to communicate with me well
- Not be a jerk, and actually help me if I provide you with a ZIP.
If you'e interested drop me a PM or just post on this thread, I'm only really looking for 3 people max. Don't come to me if you don't meet the above.
Thanks,
- Benjamin :good:
P.S. If you're wondering why I can't test myself, then it's because I no longer own this phone.
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I don't know the first point, so sorry I can't test it, even if I would really see how it works !
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OliverG96 said:
Hi benjamina, I'm here
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It's nice to see you again Oliver
I can test.
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Never mind my computer just killed itself sorry Ben.
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Non interested anymore...
Me
I'm ready........
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Me here... Where is the link to download!!!
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There's no link to download, he'll pm it to the people he want.
Enviado desde mi Wildfire S A510e usando Tapatalk 2
Eagerly waiting to try its first release..
Hoping it would be the Best..
Regards
Then what's the point of posting in dev section? He always teasing people who post in wrong section... Now I pm him also knock here long ago... He didnt send the link of rom... He' s just teasing I think... I'll report this post...
If there is a development it should have download link or some technical info...otherwise it should go to general section... There is already 1 discussion post on project llama in dev section.. Why another??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185040
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The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
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Then what's the point of posting in dev section? He always teasing people who post in wrong section... Now I pm him also knock here long ago... He didnt send the link of rom... He' s just teasing I think... I'll report this post...
If there is a development it should have download link or some technical info...otherwise it should go to general section... There is already 1 discussion post on project llama in dev section.. Why another??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185040
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The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
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This is ROM Development, as I need developers to test. I'll PM people when I've actually built the ROM and I can upload it. I have exams and other (more important) things to do than listening to your smart ass comments.
benjamingwynn said:
This is ROM Development, as I need developers to test. I'll PM people when I've actually built the ROM and I can upload it. I have exams and other (more important) things to do than listening to your smart ass comments.
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Oh good luck for your exams,yr turn now, previously it is mine turn.
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This is ROM Development, as I need developers to test. I'll PM people when I've actually built the ROM and I can upload it. I have exams and other (more important) things to do than listening to your smart ass comments.
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So focus on exams.. . Who tells U to post... There is already one post on project llama...
.... dont flood the dev section... U got more post than any other users I think (currently 3 on front page)... most of them are promises...
Edit: So U need devs now??? But op says something else... Lying is bad habit,,, You lied twice... U said U were sending links,,, But u sent pm... About if know to use adb... And now saying U need dev... May be thats ur definition of developer.. LOL
Anyways good luck with exam... Never ever will U see me in your posts...
benjamingwynn said:
Interested in testing Project Llama for the Wildfire S (marvel)?
You must pass the following
- Be able to use adb and gather CLEAN logcats
- Be able to speak understandable English
- Be able to communicate with me well
- Not be a jerk, and actually help me if I provide you with a ZIP.
If you'e interested drop me a PM or just post on this thread, I'm only really looking for 3 people max. Don't come to me if you don't meet the above.
Thanks,
- Benjamin :good:
P.S. If you're wondering why I can't test myself, then it's because I no longer own this phone.
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So focus on exams.. . Who tells U to post... There is already one post on project llama...
.... dont flood the dev section... U got more post than any other users I think (currently 3 on front page)... most of them are promises...
Edit: So U need devs now??? But op says something else... Lying is bad habit,,, You lied twice... U said U were sending links,,, But u sent pm... About if know to use adb... And now saying U need dev... May be thats ur definition of developer.. LOL
Anyways good luck with exam... Never ever will U see me in your posts...
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I said developer because not many others know how to use adb correctly, adb may not be needed for cooked roms like your own. It doesn't matter if there is already one post. There is more than one post on Cyanogenmod 10 on XDA is there not?
I haven't had time to BUILD the rom yet... As building compiled ROMs can take hours on some machines, and I don't boot into Linux every day.
This thread will also be used to hold the finished ROM thread. I know that you personally don't make any compiled ROMs (if thats because of your limits as a 'developer' or a time limit is another matter) but I can assure you that it is a lot harder than you think, a lot more work is involved than simply opening up dsixda's kitchen and zipping up something.
Can I also remind you that I don't have this phone, and allowing you to test early is (imho) a very generous thing to do, as I could drop msm7k and the Wildfire S and save a lot of hassle and time playing around with it's tree to get it to work with Project Llama.
I would make it open testing, but (no offence) you people are so dumb in this forum it's unbelievable, the number of PM's asking if WHATEVER2SD, FUBAR2EXT or something similar worked would mostly go beyond the hundred barrier.
If you don't like this thread.
Don't. Post.
EDIT: I've had enough of this ridiculous user base, I'm closing this thread, anybody who wants to test Project Llama and meets that please drop me a PM. (OliverG96 is the only guy getting one atm)
As this is not yet development, its moved to general
There are so many ROMs around, and despite my best efforts, I'm not in touch with pros and cons of every ROM. And on top if that there are kangs, ROMs that are basically just themes/mods etc...
Would anyone be interested in an actively maintained thread/poll dedicated to listing the best features of the various ROMs? The poll can serve to show popularity and the OP can be updated now and then to list the ROMs and their pros and cons. This will also solve the newbie problem of "HAI WHICH ROM IS DA BEST?"
Thoughts and comments? Also, mods please delete/move the thread if there's something similar or this is the wrong place for this thread.
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There are so many ROMs around, and despite my best efforts, I'm not in touch with pros and cons of every ROM. And on top if that there are kangs, ROMs that are basically just themes/mods etc...
Would anyone be interested in an actively maintained thread/poll dedicated to listing the best features of the various ROMs? The poll can serve to show popularity and the OP can be updated now and then to list the ROMs and their pros and cons. This will also solve the newbie problem of "HAI WHICH ROM IS DA BEST?"
Thoughts and comments? Also, mods please delete/move the thread if there's something similar or this is the wrong place for this thread.
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no correct thread sir and answer to another listing of thread would simply be no because xda development encouages you to know what your getting into nobody will tell you all the pros and cons you find out by searching the thread and flashing the rom/mod/theme etc thats where the fun is
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no correct thread sir and answer to another listing of thread would simply be no because xda development encouages you to know what your getting into nobody will tell you all the pros and cons you find out by searching the thread and flashing the rom/mod/theme etc thats where the fun is
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That ^ , everything such as a pro or con is completely perceptual. Also, you'll never kill the 'noobs' asking which rom is the best...don't even attempt it.
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nobody will tell you all the pros and cons you find out by searching the thread and flashing the rom/mod/theme etc thats where the fun is
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That's the problem I have with all this, too much onus on the individual. I understand the "fun" element of flashing ROMs and exploring, but there are times when I just want to flash it and get on with life. It would be really nice to know if feature <X> works pre-flashing, before I spend time with a 200meg download, backup, nandroid, wipe, flash, restore apps/settings/launcher. And in so many threads if you ask a question, people just go OMGWTFBBQ WHY DONT YOU SEARCH???
The CM10 thead has 851 pages as of this posting, what exactly should someone search for when looking for pros and cos? Not to mention, thanks to the nightlies format, stuff that's valid on page 450 is probably incorrect as of page 820. In fact, there's an interesting discussion going on right now whether CM is feature rich, thus great - or bare bones AOSP and therefore awesome.
Oh well, it was a thought I had. If no one's interested, no problem.
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That ^ , everything such as a pro or con is completely perceptual. Also, you'll never kill the 'noobs' asking which rom is the best...don't even attempt it.
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Actually Iock those threads with a pretty smurflocked pic
Pet peeve of mine lol
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Papa Smurf151 said:
Actually Iock those threads with a pretty smurflocked pic
Pet peeve of mine lol
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Ha, had I gotten the position, I'd have probably done the same.
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Ha, had I gotten the position, I'd have probably done the same.
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It really pissed off some in a few forums when I first started doing it but after a dozen or so and they dwindled down to non existent lol
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I sorta hate when I see someone talk about kangs and ROMs, you do know where the term "kang" came from, and what it really refers too, its really code used for profit when its free. Im serious. So when you say a ROM is kanged, your wrong. There are really only 2 ROMs for us on this phone,stock TW, and AOSP(in the form of cm), and then you have the variance of those (AOKP, MIUI, and modded TW, deodexed, hybrid)
So your really saying anyone that makes a TW ROM has kanged something, and its better to just have one dev, make one modded TW ROM, and call it done, great thinking man
But on a serious note, run modded TW, AOSP, or kang one for yourself, and maybe share your thoughts in that thread with your fellow community...
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I'm looking for a stable 4.4 which would be as stable as possible. The reason for this is that I use my Nexus for alarm clock and it's really unpleasant if I find it in SOD when I oversleep. I don't really need so much additional features, it's a bonus though, but it's more important that it's fast and bugless.
Are there any or should I stay on Cataclysm 4.3?
Well, you can only reliably know which ROM is the most stable by trying them yourself. That's part of the culture of XDA, to try ROMs from different developers and then to give feedback on them.
As for me, I just installed the latest CM11 nightly and it seems reasonably stable. Will test the battery life and stability for a few more days after installing some apps. Will try XenonHD next if this one isn't stable enough or has poor battery life. The phone does get hot when I'm running heavy applications and games, which is the only problem I have noticed so far.
Im running the CM11 Nightlies as well and cant complain at all. Havent had any issues with any of them. I usually update every couple days to the latest nightly.
If it's just using the device as an alarm, then CM11 nightlies would be quite enough. I've been using my own GNex as an alarm too.
Sent from Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE @ CM11
I've read through several ROM threads that a lot of them have have slowdowns and lags. Is that also the case for CM11? How about other CM based ROMs, like CM-remix?
Can't say much about other roms (aside from CM i've only ever tried AOKP jb-mr2 briefly), i'm on CM11 M2 right now and i can say it's smooth and has no hiccups and lags - much better than stock 4.3 and cm10.2 which i had beforehand.
I'm also using the device as an alarm clock and it works well.
Seriously? How many times do people have to be told that threads like this are against XDA rules. If you want a stable rom then try some roms out yourself and decide what you prefer for yourself. This is a development community meant for people that want to take the initiative to learn and do for themselves not a place for people to have others do their work for them.
Do some reading and you'll surely find the answers you seek.
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I'm looking for a stable 4.4 which would be as stable as possible.
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me too. cant find anything. CM blows, pa has graphics glitches and vanir gives me reboots.
tried em all and they all seem to suck.
4.3 is waaaay smoother for me.
a stock 4.4.2 build would be great.
if anyone finds any decent roms + a good 4.4 kernel (Franco/Faux) or two let me know.
Nephilim, sorry, I thought that it's forbidden to open only general ROM comparison threads, but I'm asking only for the ideas of pretty specific needs. You could also take this thread as a discussion if 4.4 ROMs in general are really stable enough for everyday use.
Not all of us have time to test every build of every ROM, because it would take a bit too much. That's why we have a community here to ask others for their opinion and experiences. At least that's how I imagine it, but of course, I might be wrong.
Nephilim said:
not a place for people to have others do their work for them
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what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
iconicpaul said:
what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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No it isnt illegal. But these threads are pointless... There is no best ROM so these threads will never be solved/answered. And the devs work hard to build a ROM and then some people in a thread will tell him his ROM sucks and the other one is better.. Its personal preference anyway. And every ROM is stable otherwise they wouldnt be released on xda (except when told otherwise or in beta etc.). Thats the whole point. There are tons of these threads. They are just useless. Just try out a ROM and if it suits your needs be happy and thank the developer and if you arent just move on to the next one.
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No it isnt illegal. But these threads are pointless... There is no best ROM so these threads will never be solved/answered. And the devs work hard to build a ROM and then some people in a thread will tell him his ROM sucks and the other one is better.. Its personal preference anyway. And every ROM is stable otherwise they wouldnt be released on xda (except when told otherwise or in beta etc.). Thats the whole point. There are tons of these threads. They are just useless. Just try out a ROM and if it suits your needs be happy and thank the developer and if you arent just move on to the next one.
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acknowledged, thank you
iconicpaul said:
what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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My problem is that if you aren't willing to put in the work and try roms yourself you have no business on a development forum. Asking others is just looking for someone else to do the work for you. Threads like this are basically spam because any info you need can be found in the threads made for each rom. If you are asking in a thread like this you are definitely lazy because you obviously dont want to put in the effort of finding the information by reading the rom threads. Mrgnex pretty much said the rest.
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My problem is that if you aren't willing to put in the work and try roms yourself you have no business on a development forum. Asking others is just looking for someone else to do the work for you. Threads like this are basically spam because any info you need can be found in the threads made for each rom. If you are asking in a thread like this you are definitely lazy because you obviously dont want to put in the effort of finding the information by reading the rom threads. Mrgnex pretty much said the rest.
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I'd fully agree with your comments, IF this thread was posted in development section, but it's not, it's in the GENERAL section.
So I don't see why NORMAL users(AKA non-flashaholics) can't freely discuss which ROM they prefer, regardless of stability.
BTW
I've tried out a lot of different/newer ROM's from 4.1 to 4.4.2 yet every time I've still went back to using PA 4.1.2 for over a year now, since no other ROM have the exact same great features I enjoy using daily.
Also I don't see why any Developer would really care if certain people dislike their ROM's, seeing as the whole reason they created one would be because they disliked the other ROM's available and wanted to build one them selves to their liking, many using the same features from other developers, just with their own tweaks.
Which is what I'm thinking I'll have learn to do since every ROM I've tested has some feature that's just not working as I'd like.
You suggesting every user go and test out every ROM just means there will be more individual threads created complaining about every ROM they flash/test.
So don't you think it's better to have 1 or 2 main ROM version threads in the GENERAL section to DISCUSS different individual Rom's in the GENERAL matter?
In other words if you don't really have anything to help out in the thread topic/discussion then just don't view it.
I personally enjoy reading about what others have to say, likely saving me time and headache from having to test out every Rom's myself.
I very much doubt there would be as many Rom's available as there are today if nobody discussed them.
Wasn't that the whole point of having an open sourced android OS?
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I'd fully agree with your comments, IF this thread was posted in development section, but it's not, it's in the GENERAL section.
So I don't see why NORMAL users(AKA non-flashaholics) can't freely discuss which ROM they prefer, regardless of stability.
BTW
I've tried out a lot of different/newer ROM's from 4.1 to 4.4.2 yet every time I've still went back to using PA 4.1.2 for over a year now, since no other ROM have the exact same great features I enjoy using daily.
Also I don't see why any Developer would really care if certain people dislike their ROM's, seeing as the whole reason they created one would be because they disliked the other ROM's available and wanted to build one them selves to their liking, many using the same features from other developers, just with their own tweaks.
Which is what I'm thinking I'll have learn to do since every ROM I've tested has some feature that's just not working as I'd like.
You suggesting every user go and test out every ROM just means there will be more individual threads created complaining about every ROM they flash/test.
So don't you think it's better to have 1 or 2 main ROM version threads in the GENERAL section to DISCUSS different individual Rom's in the GENERAL matter?
In other words if you don't really have anything to help out in the thread topic/discussion then just don't view it.
I personally enjoy reading about what others have to say, likely saving me time and headache from having to test out every Rom's myself.
I very much doubt there would be as many Rom's available as there are today if nobody discussed them.
Wasn't that the whole point of having an open sourced android OS?
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First of all, threads like this would not be constantly deleted by Senior Moderators if they were allowed. Next, I never once said that everyone should go and try every rom. I said that people need to go to the rom threads and READ, if the rom seems like something they would like to try then they should flash it, if not move onto another rom. Next, after flashing the said rom they are trying they can READ the thread pertaining to said rom to find answers to their questions.
You see where I am going here?
There is NO REASON for threads like this. All the information anyone could need can be found in the rom threads. If an individual needs to make a thread like this it just says that they are too lazy to read all the information that is already provided in multiple threads, available to everyone. If you want to discuss a rom then make a community on Google+, I already have done the same. This site is called XDA Developers. If you have questions about a rom then read the thread about the rom and if you do not see the question you have already asked then go ahead and ask it.
If you want to make a thread here in the general section to discuss a rom you have already flashed and are running, that would not be a big issue either but..... Making a thread simply to ask others to tell you which rom is most stable or which rom is the best serve no purpose but to congest areas of XDA with useless spam.
If you are here, you have either rooted your device or plan to, either way if you are here for that then you have enough brains to read and gain knowledge the correct way by doing the legwork yourself.
If the amount of effort you put into trying to debate my legitimate reasons why this thread does not belong was put into discovering roms for yourself then there would never be a need for anyone to make a thread like this.
Bottomline, only lazy people make threads like this and XDA is for forum for adults seeking to enhance their knowledge of mobile development by way of contribution, not a G+ community to request everyone do your work for you while you sit around posting screenshots of your homescreen and icon theme.
Not a thing anyone responds to me with will justify these type of useless threads. Every way you can learn what you need about roms has been mentioned in my posts and none of them require an entire thread dedicated to asking others to give you the answers.
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First of all, threads like this would not be constantly deleted by Senior Moderators if they were allowed. Next, I never once said that everyone should go and try every rom. I said that people need to go to the rom threads and READ, if the rom seems like something they would like to try then they should flash it, if not move onto another rom. Next, after flashing the said rom they are trying they can READ the thread pertaining to said rom to find answers to their questions.
You see where I am going here?
There is NO REASON for threads like this. All the information anyone could need can be found in the rom threads. If an individual needs to make a thread like this it just says that they are too lazy to read all the information that is already provided in multiple threads, available to everyone. If you want to discuss a rom then make a community on Google+, I already have done the same. This site is called XDA Developers. If you have questions about a rom then read the thread about the rom and if you do not see the question you have already asked then go ahead and ask it.
If you want to make a thread here in the general section to discuss a rom you have already flashed and are running, that would not be a big issue either but..... Making a thread simply to ask others to tell you which rom is most stable or which rom is the best serve no purpose but to congest areas of XDA with useless spam.
If you are here, you have either rooted your device or plan to, either way if you are here for that then you have enough brains to read and gain knowledge the correct way by doing the legwork yourself.
If the amount of effort you put into trying to debate my legitimate reasons why this thread does not belong was put into discovering roms for yourself then there would never be a need for anyone to make a thread like this.
Bottomline, only lazy people make threads like this and XDA is for forum for adults seeking to enhance their knowledge of mobile development by way of contribution, not a G+ community to request everyone do your work for you while you sit around posting screenshots of your homescreen and icon theme.
Not a thing anyone responds to me with will justify these type of useless threads. Every way you can learn what you need about roms has been mentioned in my posts and none of them require an entire thread dedicated to asking others to give you the answers.
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I would respectfully disagree. Not everyone has followed the entire course of development for the Galaxy Nexus from the beginning. It is hard to know where to start if you are just now reading up on things (as I am). People are trying to do their research otherwise they would just flash any old thing and then complain when nothing works.
In many other fields (I work in biology) it is very common to have a review article to get people up to speed on a specific topic without them having to read every primary piece of evidence on a topic because that is a lot of needless repetitive work that has already been done. It isn't being lazy. It is being efficient.
I stumbled upon this thread and found it to be EXACTLY what I was looking for and very relevant. Just a quick guide to let me know if it was worth looking into kitkat roms or if (as I suspected) I should stick with Jelly Bean roms for now since stability is also my primary goal. I can't understand the hostile nature towards people trying to educate themselves that seems to permeate xda sometimes...
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I would respectfully disagree. Not everyone has followed the entire course of development for the Galaxy Nexus from the beginning. It is hard to know where to start if you are just now reading up on things (as I am). People are trying to do their research otherwise they would just flash any old thing and then complain when nothing works.
In many other fields (I work in biology) it is very common to have a review article to get people up to speed on a specific topic without them having to read every primary piece of evidence on a topic because that is a lot of needless repetitive work that has already been done. It isn't being lazy. It is being efficient.
I stumbled upon this thread and found it to be EXACTLY what I was looking for and very relevant. Just a quick guide to let me know if it was worth looking into kitkat roms or if (as I suspected) I should stick with Jelly Bean roms for now since stability is also my primary goal. I can't understand the hostile nature towards people trying to educate themselves that seems to permeate xda sometimes...
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Apparently you have not read a word of what I posted.
There is NO reason for these type of posts because all the information you seek on a rom or kernel is in their respective thread. Even if you do not want to use them you still have all the review you need from people on the thread that actually used the rom or kernel, these threads are a copout for lazy people that do not take the time to read where the information is already easily accessible. These types of threads are spam, they are made by people who come to XDA and do not even put a second of time into looking through threads before just expecting that posting a new thread and asking about what is the best will get them all the info they need without any effort.
I have said this many times already, In school, when you have a test or assignment, does your teacher give that test or assignment to you and then immediately hand over the answers? Hell no they don't, they expect you to research and study to find the answers. As adults that is what should be done here as well, otherwise you ultimately learn nothing.
I use the official 4.4.2 gummy build and it is very stable for me and have not encountered any issues.
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I am using VanirAOSP. Its very fast and also stable!