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Wtf: Black & White!!

It sucks that we have to go to 3 or 4 differnet sites now to get the most out of our Hermes! Black is now on win4 and others are taking thier ROM's other places. We are ruining what used to be great about having a forum, and that was having a choice.
Remember when you waited for Kypher's WXL2.0? were you like me and checked every day til it came out?
And then LSVW came out. Then Black! and wow Black1.2, and Black2.0!
Are we going to let Noobs take that feeling from us?! Screw the noobs...let them read and learn like the rest of us. I read through 1000 post threads and so should they! Its time for some tough love, discipline and ignoring them will help them grow.
JJ come back! Kypher; where are you? Make this the one stop cooking shop!

All you have to do to keep everything at THIS forum is not go to the new ones. Don't give their new roms any word of mouth etc. If they see no one gives a darn about their "new home" they will come back. It's that simple...

Shadowmite said:
All you have to do to keep everything at THIS forum is not go to the new ones. Don't give their new roms any word of mouth etc. If they see no one gives a darn about their "new home" they will come back. It's that simple...
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With all due respect, based on discussions with some of the departed (voluntary and involuntary - LOL), it is not really about people giving a darn. It is more about the user experience on the board. While I appreciate what you are saying, I think that your statement VASTLY oversimplifies the reasons they left. While some may have been motivated by money, status, ego-stroking or whatever, for others it was simply about a more expertly focused site. I am sure that all communities would value your memebership.

well for some of us this is what we do because we love it and dont mind keeping up with the 1000 posts like you said. i know i like to fill my head with as much knowledge as i can so i'll keep on reading and learning

Shadowmite said:
All you have to do to keep everything at THIS forum is not go to the new ones. Don't give their new roms any word of mouth etc. If they see no one gives a darn about their "new home" they will come back. It's that simple...
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Could not agree more!!! This is why a parted with Black 3.01 and future Black roms unless the topic and rom is posted here on XDA.... Same goes for all future cookers. I wont sign up like i did for that buggy iPhone dialer on some Chinese website i could not even understand the text or the few english words and a day later my in box was full of junkmail, i believe now he is cooking a white rom and it will be posted on another forum... My point is the same, these guys are getting over them selfs and are forgetting their roots on XDA.

Sorry to dissagree some of yours opininions. I read the wiki, search the entire forum but nothing comming up
1/ Everyone here used to be a noob once.
2/ The open forum is always better than restricted forum, because the more ideals the better modifiers. Sometimes, it's quite annoyed; but, hey, life is not perfect. Also, there are too many people flame noobs by using abusive vocabularies. Why don't ppl just point out the directions, or simple keep their silent and let the moderators do their jobs?
3/ Those ppl whose posts just to say "tks, I'm downloading now", "wow, that's great" ... into thread of new ROM should be banned for at least 3 days. I saw many senior members do this also!!! Ppl can always show their appreciate to chefs by cliking on the Donation Button.
Hence, my solutions is:
a/ Moderators should do some more. If this forum is lack of janitors, I'm volunteer to be one.
b/ Ppl please limit your abusive languages and try to play nice to each others.
Regards.

I was going to post a similiar topic. It is sad that the XDA we loved is not going to be here anymore..at least not with the same variety we had before. I do not have the time to read 4 message boards just to find the best ROM.
I hope LVSW and CUSTEL and XDALive (if it ever comes back to life) remain here on XDA since they are the best ROMs anyway. We need the Pofs' Olipro's, Tadzio etc......hope we dont loose anyone else.

Nghiem said:
Sorry to dissagree some of yours opininions. I read the wiki, search the entire forum but nothing comming up
1/ Everyone here used to be a noob once.
2/ The open forum is always better than restricted forum, because the more ideals the better modifiers. Sometimes, it's quite annoyed; but, hey, life is not perfect. Also, there are too many people flame noobs by using abusive vocabularies. Why don't ppl just point out the directions, or simple keep their silent and let the moderators do their jobs?
3/ Those ppl whose posts just to say "tks, I'm downloading now", "wow, that's great" ... into thread of new ROM should be banned for at least 3 days. I saw many senior members do this also!!! Ppl can always show their appreciate to chefs by cliking on the Donation Button.
Hence, my solutions is:
a/ Moderators should do some more. If this forum is lack of janitors, I'm volunteer to be one.
b/ Ppl please limit your abusive languages and try to play nice to each others.
Regards.
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1. Noobs still need to read and search. We often see noob threads that end when a link to a previous thread points in the right direction. Do you really think we just had that link saved in a Favorite...NO...someone searched for it.
2. I agree the open forums are great. But if you dont like foul langauge too bad! I dont use it often or ever that I can recall, but Grow up, it is not like you never heard a bad word before...did feelings get hurt...too bad man up.
3. I agree 100%

Well it is sad what things have come down to, but we still have some awesome chefs here and experts that blow my mind away. Lets not lose love for them. I too am frustrated and irritated with all these noob posts that flood entire forum. And the hermes forum has a horrible rep now. I for one wanna be a help to this forum. Im on this forum for about 7 hours a day. And i would love to volunteer to take care of this forum. Just anything to do my part in helping all the mods here.

I am frustrated with the word "noob"... its as bad as "sku" was during the release of all of the gaming consoles. I've been lurking here for a while. I've used the search function and i think it completely sucks. I did a search for "video dialer" earlier and the first result was the black 3.0.1 thread... all 103 or so pages of it. That was typical for the next 20 results. You can't hate on every person that creates a seemingly useless thread. If you want to help reduce the thread counts, then improve the search results. There's no reason not to help a new person... if this was the same logic that went with creating ROMS, think how crappy they would be. If a chef yelled "GOOGLE!" everytime they were looking for a quicker/better/faster way of doing something with their soon-to-be-released ROM, we'd never get any new ROMS. I guess my point is this, i know it sucks to have 40 new threads each day when i visit this site. But, i dont go jumping on the people that posted them, rather i think the responsiblity lies more on the shoulders of the moderators (no offense guys/girls, but I've done a lot of posting to various forums, even moderated one or two in my day, and that's just where i stand)... If you want to help eliminate useless posts, clean up the wiki and implement a better search feature. (and yes, using google to search within this domain helps... but not all new people know that).
sorry for the rant.

Like some of the other posters here, I would gladly offer moderation services to this forum. I agree that good moderation is the key to keeping XDA-DEVELOPERS vital and flourishing. Would be happy to help encourage the good and thwart the bad.

The F Word
forum (n.) a public meeting or assembly for open discussion
forum (n.) a public facility to meet for open discussion
forum (n.) a place of assembly for the people in ancient Greece
Bottom line, get over it!!
Noob, Expert, Chef, Senior, whatever.... It's a place for everyone to discuss everything and anything about a related topic. That's how we get along in this crazy world by helping others, sharing knowledge, and communicating...
If you want an experts only club then go create one and make it a specialised chat room with a private login.
*rant over*

allready got 3 actually

Midget_1990 said:
allready got 3 actually
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Lol... Shows how much the mods care about this topic.

almost kinda like the topic says, black & white..
The whole issue here is a little more complex and not really a black and white issue.. This isnt the first time chefs have the left the boards for other things, and we always pick up new chefs.. and alot of the old school chefs are still here and plan to stay, the same chefs that helped create the roms you guys so highly speak of. One of them will be releasing his own rom soon. And there might be a chef leaving this board to avoid being banned due to abusive behavior..

shogunmark said:
The whole issue here is a little more complex and not really a black and white issue.. This isnt the first time chefs have the left the boards for other things, and we always pick up new chefs.. and alot of the old school chefs are still here and plan to stay, the same chefs that helped create the roms you guys so highly speak of. One of them will be releasing his own rom soon. And there might be a chef leaving this board to avoid being banned due to abusive behavior..
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Off topic, but I gotta say it ... I get a chuckle every time I see that damn monkey with a gun.

weinson said:
Off topic, but I gotta say it ... I get a chuckle every time I see that damn monkey with a gun.
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maybe if i ever cook a rom again it will make a nice splash screen, lol

shogunmark said:
maybe if i ever cook a rom again it will make a nice splash screen, lol
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In these trying times he'd make a rather suitable XDA mascot.

shogunmark said:
The whole issue here is a little more complex and not really a black and white issue.. This isnt the first time chefs have the left the boards for other things, and we always pick up new chefs.. and alot of the old school chefs are still here and plan to stay, the same chefs that helped create the roms you guys so highly speak of. One of them will be releasing his own rom soon. And there might be a chef leaving this board to avoid being banned due to abusive behavior..
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Surely you must agree that dropping developers and gaining new ones is a little erratic? It just ads to the confusion where people install a ROM from this forum, then have to go else where for maintenance. I think a lot of these problems could have been solved if the developers were given their own sub-forum (based on popularity) and they were made moderators of their forum. That's it. They would then be responsible for the maintenance and the progressive state of their section. Right now the closest thing we have is a thread, which ends up in a few hundred replies, majority of which is total crap.

MrSmith22 said:
Surely you must agree that dropping developers and gaining new ones is a little erratic? It just ads to the confusion where people install a ROM from this forum, then have to go else where for maintenance. I think a lot of these problems could have been solved if the developers were given their own sub-forum (based on popularity) and they were made moderators of their forum. That's it. They would then be responsible for the maintenance and the progressive state of their section. Right now the closest thing we have is a thread, which ends up in a few hundred replies, majority of which is total crap.
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MrSmith - I think that is an excellent suggestion/observation - fwiw

Where are you Schaps, where is your 6.1 ROM

Where are you Schaps ?
We want to know about your coming ROM is it 6.1 build or what is going on
are you retired

He have a new pda

This thread is the type of thread that leads to rumors... If you take the time to read the thread for 4.31 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
You would know his already recently posted thoughts about what your asking..
He did not go away and has posted already he would like to avoid rumors of "disappearing".
Try to read abit more so not to fuel something that is just 100% wrong.

I know he is still developing ROMs but it is a long time since the last post
and moreover we did not see his 6.1, the thread you linked is a 6 one ROM

hadian said:
I know he is still developing ROMs but it is a long time since the last post
and moreover we did not see his 6.1, the thread you linked is a 6 one ROM
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selfish prick. he's posted in that thread that he's busy with other life matters right now. it's not like he's on a payroll of xda-dev to get his 6.1 out. he'll have it out when he can, stop pressuring him, it won't make him work any faster. especailly not with some person woh's been on these boards over a year and has made like 30 posts and obviously not contributed at all.

I had extracted his post on 4 March 08 below reguarding your question:
schaps said:
Hi,
A message to tell you that I'm still working on new ROMs, but those last times I'm really busy with my work and I have to spend more time with my family, so I need more time to finalize my work...
I don't want again rumors telling that I'm leaving ROM kitchen, so don't worry I'm not giving up, it's just because I have other priorities at the moment. Please be patient...
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or this is the correct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1989042#post1989042

Yes, and I'm very happy he is spending more time with his family. That is a good thing and all we're doing is playing around with our phones.

chamelion said:
selfish prick. he's posted in that thread that he's busy with other life matters right now. it's not like he's on a payroll of xda-dev to get his 6.1 out. he'll have it out when he can, stop pressuring him, it won't make him work any faster. especailly not with some person woh's been on these boards over a year and has made like 30 posts and obviously not contributed at all.
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Is it a new standards that how many post you have
then you can speak or not !!!!!

I hope heas a ROM comming up soon, I can't wait I really like his work.
But I respect his private-life... there is more in life than XDA-Developers.com, he also has to work to pay the bills of apply for jobs when he's unemployed, etc. etc.
But I'm looking forward for his next ROM, as I said... I really like his work.

chamelion said:
selfish prick. he's posted in that thread that he's busy with other life matters right now. it's not like he's on a payroll of xda-dev to get his 6.1 out. he'll have it out when he can, stop pressuring him, it won't make him work any faster. especailly not with some person woh's been on these boards over a year and has made like 30 posts and obviously not contributed at all.
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chamelion,this whole thing doesn`t require name calling and insult.hadian asked a simple and polite question as a fan.So go easy.Thought we are all here to learn and share.

lighten up chameleon
are the yin and the yang both assholes?

Suggestion for the mods.....
Well,
I read it all inhere, and quite frankly, there is nothing new or something to be learned in this thread. All but rude replies, people not reading before posting, in short: complete waste of diskspace..
Suggestion for the mods: remove this entire thread, including my pointless remark here....

Goldfingerz said:
Well,
I read it all inhere, and quite frankly, there is nothing new or something to be learned in this thread. All but rude replies, people not reading before posting, in short: complete waste of diskspace..
Suggestion for the mods: remove this entire thread, including my pointless remark here....
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Agreed
Thread closed.

need moderator??!!

i think the diamond section is in a great need of one/one more moderator.
there are posts to be moved and posts to be trashed. i also suggest that besides diamond, diamond rom development and diamond accessories to add a diamond trash where to be able to move all the "does the diamond have a led?" threads.
taking this job and responsibility it will be my way of saying "thank you" to this forum.

shameless self promotion?

I want to be a mod, but i dont have a diamond but im online most of the time or at least an hour a day here in xda-dev. Im just saying if anyone is considering.

jacknmary said:
shameless self promotion?
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.......

Im a moderator at the worlds largest Motorola Specific forum... with 7000+ posts. Being a moderator isnt all fun and games, I assure you.

jacknmary said:
Im a moderator at the worlds largest Motorola Specific forum... with 7000+ posts. Being a moderator isnt all fun and games, I assure you.
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now you are talking...!
pity thow, i was looking forward to my 4 figures pay check..
and thank you all for yr support dhaaahh...

jacknmary said:
shameless self promotion?
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or plain and simple ...suicidal ??

"does the diamond have a led?" is a good question! must know the signal status! something important to someone better than does the diamond run Iphone apps?

Moderators are only part of the solution.
Every registered user has the ability to report posts/threads to the enitre moderation team. Use the little triangle with the ! in it.
This is alo a good way to make us aware of forums where there is a true need for additional Mods.

kyphur said:
Moderators are only part of the solution.
Every registered user has the ability to report posts/threads to the enitre moderation team. Use the little triangle with the ! in it.
This is alo a good way to make us aware of forums where there is a true need for additional Mods.
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He has a point!
Also, mrvanx, who in my mind is the most active mod in the Diamond forums, does an astounding job clearing the trash.

kyphur said:
Moderators are only part of the solution.
Every registered user has the ability to report posts/threads to the enitre moderation team. Use the little triangle with the ! in it.
This is alo a good way to make us aware of forums where there is a true need for additional Mods.
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Done that soooo much
Regards

Ok I wamt to be a mod .... Hmmmmm why not been a mod on so many sites cant rember which sites I am mod or admin ... LOL .. But I am here most times ....

did anyone replace meschle???
on artemis forum...maybe some others too...
question: does a mod need to know about the topics or just remove the trash
i want be a mod,im 5-6 hours around here,especially when i'm on work,i know what to do,and i'm not a mod on any other site,so i'll have plenty of time for this one...but then again who the hell is going to give it to me

farukb said:
did anyone replace meschle???
on artemis forum...maybe some others too...
question: does a mod need to know about the topics or just remove the trash
i want be a mod,im 5-6 hours around here,especially when i'm on work,i know what to do,and i'm not a mod on any other site,so i'll have plenty of time for this one...but then again who the hell is going to give it to me
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I am sure if you really stay around and help out by showing mods all the junk needing to be removed they may pay you some attention mate ...

i do my duty as a member...report spams,advertising,fighting,care what i type,don't ask stupid or asked questions,help others solve their problems,so don't worry...and i'd feel weird if i get it...i mean you are here longer,so more active,i think....but look it the other way...if you are here longer,and have over 3500 posts...what's wrong with you...why aren't you noticed...do you report
just asking,not insulting
and as i could see the idea wasn't promoted by a mod...so does anyone ask them about it

farukb said:
i do my duty as a member...report spams,advertising,fighting,care what i type,don't ask stupid or asked questions,help others solve their problems,so don't worry...and i'd feel weird if i get it...i mean you are here longer,so more active,i think....but look it the other way...if you are here longer,and have over 3500 posts...what's wrong with you...why aren't you noticed...do you report
just asking,not insulting
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Well maybe I am too conflicting and not a conformist. Who knows . All I do is help all , run a ftp , write reviews on all roms i test trying to cover them all and hopefully will aquire some other phones to test more roms in other areas on ....

well when we are speaking about mods...one question...there are forums that don't count posts in off topic threads...should you do it here
i mean lots of guys got their posts by complaining about wifes,husbands,what music they listen to,writing jokes....this isn't fair...first time i went to off topic and posted was yesterday...other 100 posts were kinda help to others...artemis,atom,hermes and magician forums...because i have the devices,and i test everything and give review and help
well the number of posts isn't too important,but is something that is watched when e.g. giving apps and roms to beta testers...they give it to guys with most posts...which they gained in off topic...so there is no real knowledge and developer creativity in them
one more thing...would it be good to make these "thanks" buttons like those guys on pdaviet have...so we don't get lost in thanking,but get to the piont....would it require changing vBulletin

lol...i prob wouldnt come close to qualifying...

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lol...i prob wouldnt come close to qualifying...
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well read my post above....that about "off-topicers"

Ok off topic we have another thief stealing work from xda and selling on ebay ..... I just wrote a note to ebay and ask all that read do the same ..... here is my note .....
I noticed an item is being sold that is not the property of the seller. How I know is I am a member of XDA forum which is where the software was designed. it is Item number: 250269408312. Many memebrs and admin from the site have contacted and sent letters to ebay in the past refring to items such as theese being sold here.
Here is the item # 250269408312
http://cgi.ebay.com/MODDING-KIT-FOR...269408312QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250269408312

anyone else think this site is very poorly organized

sorry to complain, and this is not a hit on any of the hard work of the developers here, but this site is extremely hard to find any useful information or download any roms off of. I mean honestly, do I need to browse through 800 pages of posts on a single thread to find answers to problems? do you even realize how much redundancy is going on? and all the developers pushing donation requests in your face is kind of annoying. the forum idea was not a good choice to organize the heaps of info on this site. just my opinion, go ahead and flame away...

phenixsun said:
sorry to complain, and this is not a hit on any of the hard work of the developers here, but this site is extremely hard to find any useful information or download any roms off of. I mean honestly, do I need to browse through 800 pages of posts on a single thread to find answers to problems? do you even realize how much redundancy is going on? and all the developers pushing donation requests in your face is kind of annoying. the forum idea was not a good choice to organize the heaps of info on this site. just my opinion, go ahead and flame away...
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First off, there will be no flaming. Secondly, I see a lot of complaining, but very little in the way of helpful suggestions.
I would recommend that you don't waste your time reading through hundreds of pages of each thread. There is a search function that will search each thread, each forum, or the whole site. Learn to use those tools and you'll find that the information isn't as hard to find as you thought at first.

Here's a little tip regarding roms. I've got a HTC vox so i go to the vox section and lo and behold, Roms
A suggestion for the mods while i'm here. Can you make the quick reply box "active" so users can post a reply without have to click on the little thing?

Even the little click is too much for you?
I think you are a lazy men... and yes I agree it is in chaos!!! but with this thread is worst why cause its posted before... click a little on the little thingy you have said and type.... Chaos forum... many many threads about it...
Think about it a few seconds... would you able to enjoy this chaotic site... hahahaha I DO!
dont think just enjoy helping people and making this ****in devices even better than yesterday.
BYE.

[email protected] said:
Here's a little tip regarding roms. I've got a HTC vox so i go to the vox section and lo and behold, Roms
A suggestion for the mods while i'm here. Can you make the quick reply box "active" so users can post a reply without have to click on the little thing?
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There is a very good reason why QR is broken. The site admin is aware of it.
Ta
Dave

the main reason is to stop spamming Bot , the bots werent or arent that intelligent to press the QR button and then post, but still they spam with diff User ID's

Honeycomb Official SDK Available

**Note - this is the Official SDK release...NOT preview emulator**
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/02/final-android-30-platform-and-updated.html
Let's get things rollin for our Tabs!!

How many more threads on this?!
And put it in General!

Only thread in Galaxy Tab forum I've seen (since it was JUST released a short time ago)...and SDK is a Development tool. Apologies if Mods feel otherwise, however, it IS pertinent to 3.0 port attempts at this early stage.
Glad to see at least one troll lurking about.

?? How am I trolling?! There are at least 2 thread asking devs to port. Consider the plea heard. You shouldn't really post here unless you're starting the port. If you have, great! Let us know what you tried, and how it went. If not, this thread is redundant.
And if you're not asking for a port for the Tab (based on the emulator image that's in the SDK) then what are you asking for?

old news, once its out, its old news...working on a comb for my tab, working nicely just the way i wanted to...what sux is wifi aint working, had to use tether
I know there is a Thanks Button, is there a Booo Button? XP

This isn't a request thread...it's a link to the SDK, and to the fact that Google has just NOW released the OFFICIAL SDK for developers. It has finalized API's, and is ready for public consumption.
I did not post it with pleas of "please please make this work on our devices!?!?!"
If devs feel the contribution belongs in another forum, so be it...I for one prefer to contribute what I possibly can.
(Please note that there is a huge difference between afore mentioned "Preview SDK" and this release of offical finalized SDK...it's what's going out on devices live....If I'm mistaken, having only briefy compared the files, apologies)

In which case, we already know! If we are active on XDA then the chances are we read these blogs, we keep up with the world. Pointless threads in the development section don't help. This should be in general. It's general conversation.
Let's get things rollin for our Tabs!!
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And that looks to me like a request to get it ported. Maybe it's just me.

You thread is in the wrong place, there is an Android General section where this should be, not device specific.
/troll I guess

LMAO...wow. Just forget it.
Heaven forbid the forums get locked down to such trivial BS (ie. omg unless you are gonna release it yourself shut up and be quiet).
Information is what keeps our community at the forefront. Either be the type of member that does any little thing to give our devices the edge (post a link to new source, post dump files, etc), or yell at everyone who puts in an effort.
More excited about the potential for a post in wrong forum than the potential for what we've been looking for to get 3.0 up and running.
I'm gonna get my hands dirty!

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More excited about the potential for a post in wrong forum than the potential for what we've been looking for to get 3.0 up and running.
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So you are asking for a port then?
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I'm gonna get my hands dirty!
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Good, I look forward to your findings.

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So you are asking for a port then?
Good, I look forward to your findings.
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This is interesting. Now, desire HD and nexus one also have Honey Comb ported. I really would love to see a port for galaxy tab. Although it may not be usable than AOSP but it's somewhat exciting. According to some news on the DESIRE HD XDA forum, Some functionality of the SDK will work with their current kernel. e.q. maybe you can boot the honey comb but others are broken. I am not sure if this is the same as for Galaxy tab but once we get it to display, the rests might be easier.

I don't effin care if the thread gets moved...
I would like to challenge the Mods to put more effort in to filtering out the jerks that troll the forums. Being an individual who prefers to attack any efforts made should be insta-ban.

Bandage said:
I don't effin care if the thread gets moved...
I would like to challenge the Mods to put more effort in to filtering out the jerks that troll the forums. Being an individual who prefers to attack any efforts made should be insta-ban.
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So what, I have committed 1500+ trolling offenses then?
I'm not attacking anyway. If you port Honeycomb I will be genuinely grateful, I want to see it as much as everyone else. What I'm trying to do is keep the forums tidy. By all means post links to news and the like, just do it in the right section.

I appreciate your 1500+ contributions...I dislike your attitude towards an earnest effort, you aren't a forum mod, so it's not your job to "keep the forums tidy". So effin what if it's the wrong forum, let a dev move it. If I misunderstood the placement guidelines for a relevant development tool, I apologize. It seems the most obvious place for it...as it pertains to development. I didn't link to an article about the release, I linked to the release.

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So what, I have committed 1500+ trolling offenses then?
I'm not attacking anyway. If you port Honeycomb I will be genuinely grateful, I want to see it as much as everyone else. What I'm trying to do is keep the forums tidy. By all means post links to news and the like, just do it in the right section.
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Really though, I'm more sick of seeing your replies saying "shoulda posted in general" than I am of people asking about honeycomb. Maybe you should go spend your time begging for a mod in here and less time contributing to the garbage we have to look though, considering every one of your posts politely informing (lol) people where they should post always turns the thread into a busy thread instead of just letting it die and go to page 2....
I honestly don't know if you're trying to troll or help out, but it's seriously more annoying than newbs posting in the wrong area.

Do people even know what trolling means anymore?
If you're not gonna use it properly....

The tab is not the only android device I follow up on. And I rarely look in general because I'm sick of all the "should I root my tab?!?" and "omg I bricked my phone" threads. This is the first instance I have seen the sdk was released. Once I try Boushh's deodex on my sprint tab, I might be able to start making my tab look like it has honeycomb at least. So thanks OP

JCopernicus said:
Do people even know what trolling means anymore?
If you're not gonna use it properly....
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Wikipedia
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Bandage said:
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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
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Just because you're response to an innocuous post results in the same reaction doesn't automatically transpose the intent of the original poster.

TheGrammarFreak said:
So what, I have committed 1500+ trolling offenses then?
I'm not attacking anyway. If you port Honeycomb I will be genuinely grateful, I want to see it as much as everyone else. What I'm trying to do is keep the forums tidy. By all means post links to news and the like, just do it in the right section.
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Grow up and move on!