To ROM or not to ROM? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

So I have noticed some recent slow down on my phone, very minor and non-specific. I also have noticed a bit higher battery drain as of late, which could possibly be due to having 181 apps on my phone...
Either way I was considering a Custom ROM and Kernel or just a custom Kernel. However I've done this with every other phone I've ever owned (Galaxy Nexus, GS3, MotoX, Nexus 6p, Pixel XL) and I was REALLY trying to just stay completely stock android for now...is the ROM world worth it or should I just delete some apps and factory reset the phone to start fresh? My experience with ROMs is that I was often attempting to update to fix some little bug or issue and it because addicting but not really beneficial to my phone experience.

GatorsUF said:
So I have noticed some recent slow down on my phone, very minor and non-specific. I also have noticed a bit higher battery drain as of late, which could possibly be due to having 181 apps on my phone...
Either way I was considering a Custom ROM and Kernel or just a custom Kernel. However I've done this with every other phone I've ever owned (Galaxy Nexus, GS3, MotoX, Nexus 6p, Pixel XL) and I was REALLY trying to just stay completely stock android for now...is the ROM world worth it or should I just delete some apps and factory reset the phone to start fresh? My experience with ROMs is that I was often attempting to update to fix some little bug or issue and it because addicting but not really beneficial to my phone experience.
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IMHO, the P2XL runs great on stock with a custom kernel and root. Custom roms, are just now starting to become available with some really good ones out there. However, in your case I think it's more of an app and memory thing causing your intermittent slow down. A custom rom isn't likely to have that great of an impact just to gain some extra tweaks, and since you'll probably still instal your 180 apps, you'll likely be back in the same boat. I'd try the kernel first, and go from there. ??

GatorsUF said:
So I have noticed some recent slow down on my phone, very minor and non-specific. I also have noticed a bit higher battery drain as of late, which could possibly be due to having 181 apps on my phone...
Either way I was considering a Custom ROM and Kernel or just a custom Kernel. However I've done this with every other phone I've ever owned (Galaxy Nexus, GS3, MotoX, Nexus 6p, Pixel XL) and I was REALLY trying to just stay completely stock android for now...is the ROM world worth it or should I just delete some apps and factory reset the phone to start fresh? My experience with ROMs is that I was often attempting to update to fix some little bug or issue and it because addicting but not really beneficial to my phone experience.
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I used to have more than 100 apps earlier...but then I realized I wasn't using many of those apps..may be I was using them once in a month which can be accessed from browser as well.. So I uninstalled around 40 apps and its been two months and I never needed those apps on mobile..so you can rethink as well..Also I usually clear cache in TWRP once in every two weeks...and I restart the phone daily...

DU all the way

ram4ufriends said:
I used to have more than 100 apps earlier...but then I realized I wasn't using many of those apps..may be I was using them once in a month which can be accessed from browser as well.. So I uninstalled around 40 apps and its been two months and I never needed those apps on mobile..so you can rethink as well..Also I usually clear cache in TWRP once in every two weeks...and I restart the phone daily...
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I just deleted a bunch of the apps, down to 142. I just have a bunch of apps that I use very infrequently like (uber, chipotle, panera etc.), but they are super convenient and I hate having to download and figure out my sign in on those moments I do want to use them.
Is there a way make sure certain apps just sit completely dormant unless I open them up? No syncing, no data usage, no battery usage unless they are actually being used.

Reuben_skelz92 said:
DU all the way
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I tried DU on my Nexus 6P I think it was, and found the devs to be way to arrogant and disrespectful. They make a decent product, but almost every day they were getting in fights with people whom were having little issues with their ROM.

GatorsUF said:
I tried DU on my Nexus 6P I think it was, and found the devs to be way to arrogant and disrespectful. They make a decent product, but almost every day they were getting in fights with people whom were having little issues with their ROM.
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It's a positive development now

GatorsUF said:
I just deleted a bunch of the apps, down to 142. I just have a bunch of apps that I use very infrequently like (uber, chipotle, panera etc.), but they are super convenient and I hate having to download and figure out my sign in on those moments I do want to use them.
Is there a way make sure certain apps just sit completely dormant unless I open them up? No syncing, no data usage, no battery usage unless they are actually being used.
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Maybe disabling the apps/freezing them in Titanium Backup?

ROMs, especially on Pixel devices are really losing their "allure".. You can do most anything a custom ROM can do by just rooting.. A custom Kernel never hurts in most cases but that's as far as I go anymore. Custom ROMs had their place in the day when swapping out your phones OS with another was new and exciting when Android was in it's growing pains years.. Now a days though.. Ehh.. Stock is god damn solid..

Reuben_skelz92 said:
DU all the way
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Super useful and informative comment.
styckx said:
ROMs, especially on Pixel devices are really losing their "allure".. You can do most anything a custom ROM can do by just rooting.. A custom Kernel never hurts in most cases but that's as far as I go anymore. Custom ROMs had their place in the day when swapping out your phones OS with another was new and exciting when Android was in it's growing pains years.. Now a days though.. Ehh.. Stock is god damn solid..
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I have to agree with this. I've fought back my urge to flash custom ROMs simply because they don't seem to offer much of anything over stock these days. I did give Lineage a try a few weeks back but got frustrated because the image quality from the built in camera on that ROM was not as good as stock and at the time there was no way to use the stock camera APK. That has likely been fixed by now, but I still see no real drive into a custom ROM.

sn0warmy said:
Super useful and informative comment.
I have to agree with this. I've fought back my urge to flash custom ROMs simply because they don't seem to offer much of anything over stock these days. I did give Lineage a try a few weeks back but got frustrated because the image quality from the built in camera on that ROM was not as good as stock and at the time there was no way to use the stock camera APK. That has likely been fixed by now, but I still see no real drive into a custom ROM.
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To Rom or not to Rom? Yes...DU all the way
Want us to flash the ROMs for you ??

Reuben_skelz92 said:
Want us to flash the ROMs for you ??
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:laugh: What?

GatorsUF said:
I tried DU on my Nexus 6P I think it was, and found the devs to be way to arrogant and disrespectful. They make a decent product, but almost every day they were getting in fights with people whom were having little issues with their ROM.
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Yeah I agree. But there Rom is awesome. I generally just don't report anything and let them get on with it. If there's a bug that annoys me I just wait for the next build and use something else. But yes some of the Devs are arrogant and can be jerks.
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styckx said:
ROMs, especially on Pixel devices are really losing their "allure".. You can do most anything a custom ROM can do by just rooting.. A custom Kernel never hurts in most cases but that's as far as I go anymore. Custom ROMs had their place in the day when swapping out your phones OS with another was new and exciting when Android was in it's growing pains years.. Now a days though.. Ehh.. Stock is god damn solid..
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Slightly disagree. There's some really useful and cool features on ROMs like DU you couldn't get on stock. I agree some ROMs are practically stock so no point
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sn0warmy said:
:laugh: What?
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Don't really know. Just ignore me :laugh:

Reuben_skelz92 said:
Slightly disagree. There's some really useful and cool features on ROMs like DU you couldn't get on stock. I agree some ROMs are practically stock so no point
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Like what? Feel free to link me to another post or thread discussing the features if you want. I'm genuinely curious to see the what the ROM offers. The only thing I've found so far is their Google+ page but nothing that lists the key features. And their official blog hasn't been updated since August, 2017.
If there is a solid ROM with additional useful features over stock, I'd be glad to give it a shot. Just haven't found any that fit the bill yet.
Ideally:
- Ability to use the stock Google camera APK
- No major stability issues with core features working (i.e. no issues making/receiving calls or texts and no reboots)
- No major decline in battery performance

One main reason I keep stock is because I love Android Pay and the fight was ongoing with Magisk. If I go stock w/ root will I have to fight with safety net to keep Android pay (now Google Pay as of today) working? Also is there any issue with root/custom kernels and Google Fi?

sn0warmy said:
Like what? Feel free to link me to another post or thread discussing the features if you want. I'm genuinely curious to see the what the ROM offers. The only thing I've found so far is their Google+ page but nothing that lists the key features. And their official blog hasn't been updated since August, 2017.
If there is a solid ROM with additional useful features over stock, I'd be glad to give it a shot. Just haven't found any that fit the bill yet.
Ideally:
- Ability to use the stock Google camera APK
- No major stability issues with core features working (i.e. no issues making/receiving calls or texts and no reboots)
- No major decline in battery performance
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DU Def fits the deal. Believe me. Daily driver easily. I use it with flash kernel. Amazing performance and battery life. There's things like pulse. The ability to swipe left or right on the fingerprint to get rid of notifications. 4 rows in quick settings. Set the navbar size or add buttons. Quick reboot. Expanded desktop. Ability to set the theme white or dark.
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
DU Def fits the deal. Believe me. Daily driver easily. I use it with flash kernel. Amazing performance and battery life. There's things like pulse. The ability to swipe left or right on the fingerprint to get rid of notifications. 4 rows in quick settings. Set the navbar size or add buttons. Quick reboot. Expanded desktop. Ability to set the theme white or dark.
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It uses stock camera app. Haven't found one bug.
I BELIEVE the RC builds they don't really give chanelogz etc
But one they release weekly or stable builds you will get the feature lists and changelogs

Reuben_skelz92 said:
DU Def fits the deal. Believe me. Daily driver easily. I use it with flash kernel. Amazing performance and battery life. There's things like pulse. The ability to swipe left or right on the fingerprint to get rid of notifications. 4 rows in quick settings. Set the navbar size or add buttons. Quick reboot. Expanded desktop. Ability to set the theme white or dark.
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It uses stock camera app. Haven't found one bug.
I BELIEVE the RC builds they don't really give chanelogz etc
But one they release weekly or stable builds you will get the feature lists and changelogs
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Well dang. Looks like I need to give this thing a shot. Thanks!

ROM IT!!!
i also agree...DU!!!

Related

Galaxy Nexus JellyBean ROM Feature Comparison

As most users on XDA, I've got a rooted device that I want to use a custom ROM on, and there are so many choices it makes choosing a ROM very difficult.
And it is all a matter of preference, depending what included features (included Gapps, default launcher, notification options, etc) or what base it is built from (CM10, AOSP, AOKP, etc) everyone has their own preference.
I created this public spreadsheet, but I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs. It has really taken off since I originally created it.
http://goo.gl/U8a0E
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android.
Thanks everyone who makes updates to the sheet. I would also like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable ROMs that meet our individual needs.
And, as the Google Doc can be viewed by ANYONE, must get permission on google account to edit.
My personal "Must Haves":
- T9 Dialer (avoid having to install separate dialer app)
- Customizable Notification drop down for Additional Toggles (this has replaced the need for Widgetsoid2 since I can have the Flashlight and Wifi AP here.)
- Reboot and Reboot to Recovery in Power Menu (Mostly Reboot as a minimum as I sometimes forget to turn it back on if I Poweroff)
- Battery Percentage in Status Bar (The logo itself is no where near specific enough for my needs, and I now prefer the circle style)
NOVEMBER 24, 2012 UPDATE: Personally I've switched over to Paranoid Android 2.99.3 (beta 3), it doesn't have my personal must haves yet, but I'm sure it will, currently I'd rather have 4.2 and lose a few features, than be running 4.1.2, it is one of the first roms with customizations to be released on AOSP 4.2, so until it is 3.x it could have some bugs.
HwyXingFrog said:
I've tried a few ROMs on my Unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus and am still trying to find the ROM that has all the features I want. And is the most stable with those features.
I just created this public spreadsheet, mostly for my own use so it is very basic at the moment. But I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Like I said, it is very empty right now and is completely open to others who want to make changes to it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android, and I haven't even included it on the Google Spreadsheet yet as I still haven't tried it.
I would like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable and fast versions of what CM10 can't do yet, isn't stable enough to use yet, or may never do in some cases.
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This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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dejson said:
This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.
HwyXingFrog said:
Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.
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Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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dejson said:
Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent
ThunderStick said:
Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent
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Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.
So, after all of that, and the spreadsheet getting updated by users pretty nicely, it looks like there is a functional enough CM10 (from the +Google page) v1.8 that is stable enough for me to start using as a daily driver for at least a few days.
I'll be using Gapps-b as I need Picasa sync to be working.
Damn! That's great work, well done! Keeping this up to date will be the hardest part but if you manage it you will help the Galaxy Nexus community a lot! I'll try to help. Keep up the good work.
HwyXingFrog said:
Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.
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I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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ThunderStick said:
I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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I agree, I didn't put the battery life on there, all roms except the Nightlies like to advertise "Good" battery life anyway.
That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.
HwyXingFrog said:
That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.
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You could leave the public version as is, but add a "revised" version (editable only by you) that weeds out any egregious and obvious inaccuracies.
Oops misread.
I started one of these back in the day for the droid Eris. You should be able to leave it public, you can always see and revert changes.
Can we get a column for cdma vs GSM?
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Thanks for sharing man! Im using xenonhd ad my first custom ROM band its fine
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So, overall, I definitely accomplished what I wanted to do with the Google Doc, everyone has been awesome with their updates to it.
But, for myself, the Doc is basically useless as soon as I found CM10 v1.8 on the +Google page, which is basically a very stable nightly (although it isn't), it is exactly what I wanted....
It's very stable, gives me all the features I have as my "Bare Minimum"
- Toggles in notification screen
- Battery Percentage in Status bar
- Reboot options in shutdown menu
I ended up in the exact same state after trying numerous custom roms on my HTC Desire and Motorola Atrix previously, always just ending up with CyanogenMod7.
And I happened to just fall onto the +Google post with v1.8 while compiling the Google Doc. Was about to download 1.3 then 1.8 was posted and I'm LOVING it.
And as long as I stick to CM10, I shouldn't have to wipe my data, I'm tired of doing all my Titanium Restores (as I don't have the paid version).
Again, thanks everyone for updating the Google Doc, and as I've made it public, anyone should be able to update it and keep it updated for other people out there that want to use custom roms. And if anyone ever needs to revert anything that really breaks it, all you have to do is log in with your google account.
I really hope it helps some people find the ROM they want to use for their specific needs. And it would be nice to see more of these for different devices, especially for devices not officially supported by CyanogenMod. I may have to get one started for my Motorola Atrix 4G.
Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.
Great work. Should always be maintained and help users what they really want.
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Bayint Naung said:
Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.
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It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.
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It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.
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Speaking of that, does anyone know what document viewer the stock Nexus uses, and if there is an Play App, or APK I can install on CM10 that is the same.
I have Documents to Go, but I'm wondering what the Stock nexus one is.
I've added this to the spreadsheet as CM10 not having one, so if we know which app the Stock has I can put that on the spreadsheet.
Thanks.

CM10 M1 rom?

I'm currently using Wicked's ROM, and I've never used an AOSP ROM, but since this is the first "stable" JB ROM, I wanted to know the biggest difference between the CM 10 M1 ROM and Wickeds ROM.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
Any advice will help.
Thanks,
seanvree said:
I'm currently using Wicked's ROM, and I've never used an AOSP ROM, but since this is the first "stable" JB ROM, I wanted to know the biggest difference between the CM 10 M1 ROM and Wickeds ROM.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
Any advice will help.
Thanks,
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AOSP is the code that gets pushed out directly from google and CM bases its work on this. Companies like Samsung and HTC build upon this code to create their own modifications which can vary greatly in apperance and features. Wicked is based on the Samsung firmware. This means you get many of the galaxy s3's exclusive features such as motion controls, smart stay etc. The apps are also themed to make the whole OS feel more integrated. The contact app, music app, dialer etc all share a certain consistency that, IMO is more polished.
CM on the other hand, brings a whole bunch of modifications and features that give you more control over your device. I cant really go through them here but if you do decide to go with CM, I advise you to spend a good 30-60 minutes going through each menu in the settings to get a good idea of whats available. Also, being based of AOSP, CM removes a lot of the bloatware that comes with the S3 giving you a less cluttered OS.
My recommendation: Do a backup of your current Wicked Rom in your recovery. I also recommend getting Titanium Backup to backup your apps and data. There's a free version available but the Pro version has much more extensive features namely that it can restore all your apps without you having to confirm each app. Both AOSP Roms and Samsung Roms I feel target different audiences so its up to you to decide which one best appeals to your usage
I came from sonic rom, and have been following the nightlies for bout 2 weeks. Obviously the biggest difference is jelly bean vs ICS.
Which when it comes down to it, isn't that big of a difference lol.
differences worthy of note for me:
1. Google now (which i guess is included in wicked too)
2. smoother faster
3. CM 10 does have a screen flicker rarely, but lately it seems to be all but gone.
4. quick sms reply in the notification (great!)
5. two finger swype down on emails and sms in notification to show more info
6. unlock screen much better than origional, choose apps to include in the lock screen
7. wifi hot spot actually works
8. browser seems better
9. volume rocker to skip songs while screen is off (love it)
10. sweet loving support of the CM staff (priceless)
11. raw google goodness
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nicky is right, but NOT having all of samsungs proprietary features that come in touchwiz is in my opinion a huge plus.
smartstay, svoice, motion controls, and PIP are all very much meant for the tmobile storeroom, its a "hey look at what this does..." where as you continue to use you notice smartstay works about half the time, the motion controls are mostly unessary (when did the android phone turn into a wii remote, whats with all this moving lol), and the svoice is abhorent.
Google made their fortune off of software and apps, samsung has hardware down great.
But i'm typing this one of their laptops, same thing applies. The hardware and internals are great, but their little apps they add to windows were retarded and i did a clean reformat.
samsung device + pure google software = a wonderous thing
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
i been using this rom sense it came out, and it is the most stable rom out of the cm10's and aokp's roms that i have tried, havnt had one single problem with it, everythign works great on this too:good:
seanvree said:
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
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Firstly, don't flash M1. Flash the newest one. Second, you can update without wiping, yes.
seanvree said:
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
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What do you mean by wipe. Everyone has there degree of "cleanliness", But I just wiped calvin wiped cash before every cm 10 nightly update. HOWEVER, if your going to cm for the first time or leaving cm, definately do a factory reset. Some guys do a factory reset every time, i found it was alright without it.

Worth rooting?

I just bought a oneplus 3 (offerup $200 use). Havent been in the rooting scene for a while thanx to the gs7 edge. Now that i do have a device that can be root and bootloader unlock i know there're great support.
The thing is, this device seems the snappier device i ever own. Little to non bloware and really fast. Cant imaging been faster. There any reason to root this device. If u did. Why and what rom r u using?
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I just bought a oneplus 3 (offerup $200 use). Havent been in the rooting scene for a while thanx to the gs7 edge. Now that i do have a device that can be root and bootloader unlock i know there're great support.
The thing is, this device seems the snappier device i ever own. Little to non bloware and really fast. Cant imaging been faster. There any reason to root this device. If u did. Why and what rom r u using?
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i am using the freedom os because of its preinstaled apps like xposed, viper4android, a theme engine. basicaly stuff that i could not get working on OOS. and there is supose to be better battery life i havent seen that (maybe because of my extreme usage). i get 4hrs SOT
eduardmc said:
I just bought a oneplus 3 (offerup $200 use). Havent been in the rooting scene for a while thanx to the gs7 edge. Now that i do have a device that can be root and bootloader unlock i know there're great support.
The thing is, this device seems the snappier device i ever own. Little to non bloware and really fast. Cant imaging been faster. There any reason to root this device. If u did. Why and what rom r u using?
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The OP3 is the first phone that I didn't root to achieve extra performance, but to improve Android. After using a rooted phone for the last 2 years I can't live without AdAway and a combination of Greenify/Disable Wakelock/Xposed/Amplify to control what my phone is doing, not to mention really useful things like Tasker, customizing the Alert Slider and many many more. Nowadays, flagship phones aren't rooted for performance.
That being said, I am disappointed by the responsiveness of the OP3. On OOS 3.2.7 it is LESS responsive than my 2year old OnePlus One running CM14.1 nightly. Disappointing, but getting my hopes up for when the CM14.1 nightlies for the OP3 get good. Which is the biggest plus point in my opinion - software updates. If you have root, you can have the newest version of Android anyday, not having to wait for OnePlus to update it (which they take way too much time for).
All in all, if you know what you are doing, root your phone. It is worth it.
PivotMasterNM said:
The OP3 is the first phone that I didn't root to achieve extra performance, but to improve Android. After using a rooted phone for the last 2 years I can't live without AdAway and a combination of Greenify/Disable Wakelock/Xposed/Amplify to control what my phone is doing, not to mention really useful things like Tasker, customizing the Alert Slider and many many more. Nowadays, flagship phones aren't rooted for performance.
That being said, I am disappointed by the responsiveness of the OP3. On OOS 3.2.7 it is LESS responsive than my 2year old OnePlus One running CM14.1 nightly. Disappointing, but getting my hopes up for when the CM14.1 nightlies for the OP3 get good. Which is the biggest plus point in my opinion - software updates. If you have root, you can have the newest version of Android anyday, not having to wait for OnePlus to update it (which they take way too much time for).
All in all, if you know what you are doing, root your phone. It is worth it.
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U got me pretty much convince to root mine. The only other stock android experience for me has been nexus 6p and this phone stock is much faster and fluid. Im concern about instability of using a rom like CM or other rom that has so many tweak to improve it but mess uo other things. Have u try cm14.1. Or how about CM.13 how solid is that right now?
I'm not rooted....running community build stock...3.5.5 is stable, great performance...get 5hr SOT with 15% left...over 24 hrs... phone is a great performer...
I root all of my Android devices, tablets and phone, primary for customizations and backup. I like having a full nandroid backup incase something ever goes wrong. This way I am assured that I can recover to a previous working state. I know you can often find factory image out there for just about any phone, but I will also backup at a point in time once I have everything exactly as I like. Again, this allows me to roll back to exactly how things were before I started tinkering. Running Xposed and theming, is another big reason to root. However fiddling with these can sometimes go bad so having a nandroid backup is handy.
For me, I am still running stock on 3.2.7. I find it extremely fast and stable. Been looking at the other roms, but have not found a need to switch from stock yet. I am getting 4 - 5 hrs SOT consistently, stock so again, have not found compelling need to switch roms, but am playing with different Xposed modules so that alone is reason to root.
Oh yes for sure... Adaway alone makes it worthwhile
Also check out Android explained on YouTube.. Very well explained, instead of just following some tutorial and not really understanding... Android explained breaks everything down so now I have an understanding of how my device operates.
There's a lot of great stuff you can do with root. For me the best features are: much better battery life, GUI customization, and OGYoutube (basically YT Red for free, and yes, there's a nonroot version but the root is better).
Root....
IT bus corp guy and like others said AdAway, Youtube ad blocker, TB to backup apps and be able to save app come back previous version when dev mess it it....all just a must have for me.
I am on Resurrection Rom not OOS so still have that Android Nexus experience since I came from 6P and not slow with any responses...quick, stable
Install xposed and enjoy Google assistant, N-ify, YouTube background player etc.
Personally i'm not rooted, for the first time in years, someone earlier mentioned nandroid backups they require TWRP but not root.
My concern with rooting is the updates. I hate setting up the phone after clean install since we dont have anything like icloud. I know ubcan dirty flash the updates but there so much there up to a point that u would have to clean install and update. Like going from MM to nougat. Quote if im wrong but i havent been in the rooting scene for a while. I remember titanium backup use to break alot of things when i did a restore
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My concern with rooting is the updates. I hate setting up the phone after clean install since we dont have anything like icloud. I know ubcan dirty flash the updates but there so much there up to a point that u would have to clean install and update. Like going from MM to nougat. Quote if im wrong but i havent been in the rooting scene for a while. I remember titanium backup use to break alot of things when i did a restore
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I have used Titanium Backup once, didn't work at all, I was really disappointed. Although this was years ago, I never tried it again and don't want to. Anyway - when switching ROMs, I always make sure that Whatsapp syncs everything with the cloud, all accounts in the 'accounts' setting menu of the system have synced, that my Google Photos are synced and then copy pretty much everything from /root/sdcard (your internal memory) to my computer. Then I completely wipe my phone (= wipe system+data+cache+internal storage), install the new ROM, boot it once to see howwell its working, power it down, factory reset it (wiping data) and then copy all of the data of my computer back to the phone, set everything up with my google account and let google download everything. If you have correctly configured the app-backup function of Google, then everything will be about 95% the same, and nothing will be missing. Be sure not to forget to make a TWRP backup of EVERYTHING before full-wiping the phone, so you can always go back if you really need to.
I prefer this method to anything else because you will never any problems with restoring from the cloud or performance issues of certain file-structures being different or whatever. It is clean and works.
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eduardmc said:
U got me pretty much convince to root mine. The only other stock android experience for me has been nexus 6p and this phone stock is much faster and fluid. Im concern about instability of using a rom like CM or other rom that has so many tweak to improve it but mess uo other things. Have u try cm14.1. Or how about CM.13 how solid is that right now?
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I have not tried CM13, and I will ait until sultanxda brings his goodness to CM14.1, then I will switch but - as I have used sultanxda's ROMs on my OnePlus One I can definately recommend t Install his version of CM13 on the OnePlus 3 instead of the nightlies, his optimisations und his update frequency are fantastic and he is a great ROM maker. His ROMs on the OnePlus One made me rediscover the full potential of the device, it's truly amazing.
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I have used Titanium Backup once, didn't work at all, I was really disappointed. Although this was years ago, I never tried it again and don't want to. Anyway - when switching ROMs, I always make sure that Whatsapp syncs everything with the cloud, all accounts in the 'accounts' setting menu of the system have synced, that my Google Photos are synced and then copy pretty much everything from /root/sdcard (your internal memory) to my computer. Then I completely wipe my phone (= wipe system+data+cache+internal storage), install the new ROM, boot it once to see howwell its working, power it down, factory reset it (wiping data) and then copy all of the data of my computer back to the phone, set everything up with my google account and let google download everything. If you have correctly configured the app-backup function of Google, then everything will be about 95% the same, and nothing will be missing. Be sure not to forget to make a TWRP backup of EVERYTHING before full-wiping the phone, so you can always go back if you really need to.
I prefer this method to anything else because you will never any problems with restoring from the cloud or performance issues of certain file-structures being different or whatever. It is clean and works.
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I have not tried CM13, and I will ait until sultanxda brings his goodness to CM14.1, then I will switch but - as I have used sultanxda's ROMs on my OnePlus One I can definately recommend t Install his version of CM13 on the OnePlus 3 instead of the nightlies, his optimisations und his update frequency are fantastic and he is a great ROM maker. His ROMs on the OnePlus One made me rediscover the full potential of the device, it's truly amazing.
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Last question. Any bugs that needs to be fix from the CM 13 rom
Not for me. I am no longer OCD about my phone.. don't care what color the signal strength font is, etc... The phone works so well stock, that there isn't much I would change other than adding some functionality with the camera and some good video editing software...
I played with a few ROMs, they were ok, but once the newness wore off(2 days) I went back to stock, and am now running the Community builds and like them the best.
Fast, stable, great battery life... no complaints...

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My phone should arrive tomorrow and while the Cloud feature seems interesting, I am not sure I will find it very useful. On top of that I know that since Razer bought the Nextbit brand/company it is unknown just how long cloud support will be supported.
So is it recommended to put a custom ROM on it, I assume esp on XDA it is highly advised just due to the nature of the community, but what custom ROM is regarded as the best? I am sure if is up to personal opinion but generally speaking? Also, what features are hindered besides the cloud backup by using the recommended custom ROM?
Lastly, just assuming I stick with Stock OS for now, what tips and tricks does everyone have for me? Thanks in advance!
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My phone should arrive tomorrow and while the Cloud feature seems interesting, I am not sure I will find it very useful. On top of that I know that since Razer bought the Nextbit brand/company it is unknown just how long cloud support will be supported.
So is it recommended to put a custom ROM on it, I assume esp on XDA it is highly advised just due to the nature of the community, but what custom ROM is regarded as the best? I am sure if is up to personal opinion but generally speaking? Also, what features are hindered besides the cloud backup by using the recommended custom ROM?
Lastly, just assuming I stick with Stock OS for now, what tips and tricks does everyone have for me? Thanks in advance!
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Omni is considerably recommended by pretty much everyone, but you should check out some new roms like AICP, which was just released. The only thing that doesn't work is the cloud as you mentioned. Unlock your bootloader before setting anything up when you first get it so you can flash roms and stock images as well with fastboot.
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Omni is considerably recommended by pretty much everyone, but you should check out some new roms like AICP, which was just released. The only thing that doesn't work is the cloud as you mentioned. Unlock your bootloader before setting anything up when you first get it so you can flash roms and stock images as well with fastboot.
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I like versions of Android that are light and speedy, stable, and very few of no bugs. Don't need a ton of bells and whistles. Is there a rom that allows the fingerprint scanner, NFC, and even the Android pay to work( I think I read it isn't possible for Android pay to work with custom roms? Which custom ROM is best suited for that?
While I have flashed custom roms on a few devices over the years I am no expert. Are there "idiot proof" guides out there to make sure I don't brick my new phone?
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I like versions of Android that are light and speedy, stable, and very few of no bugs. Don't need a ton of bells and whistles. Is there a rom that allows the fingerprint scanner, NFC, and even the Android pay to work( I think I read it isn't possible for Android pay to work with custom roms? Which custom ROM is best suited for that?
While I have flashed custom roms on a few devices over the years I am no expert. Are there "idiot proof" guides out there to make sure I don't brick my new phone?
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NFC and Fingerprint work on pretty much every ROM, I can't say the same about Android pay though. If you really need everything to work and be stable, I'd stay on stock.
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NFC and Fingerprint work on pretty much every ROM, I can't say the same about Android pay though. If you really need everything to work and be stable, I'd stay on stock.
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So far on stock I am liking it. I can see what people say about it getting warm, but it cools off fast. Also battery seems decent but I play some games and watch youtube on my phone so I am used to not amazing battery life. The one thing I can't seem to get used to is how bright the notification panel is. Is there a way in the settings to change this? I looked but I can't find anything, I tried some apps that do it, but they change the aesthetics way too much outside of changing the color. I tried developer options, System UI Tuner, and even an app that enables night mode but the notification area is still bright white.
Not sure if there is a way to do it but figured I'd ask.
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So far on stock I am liking it. I can see what people say about it getting warm, but it cools off fast. Also battery seems decent but I play some games and watch youtube on my phone so I am used to not amazing battery life. The one thing I can't seem to get used to is how bright the notification panel is. Is there a way in the settings to change this? I looked but I can't find anything, I tried some apps that do it, but they change the aesthetics way too much outside of changing the color. I tried developer options, System UI Tuner, and even an app that enables night mode but the notification area is still bright white.
Not sure if there is a way to do it but figured I'd ask.
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There isn't such a way to change the notification tint yet. Maybe it will be in an upcoming version.

Question about custom ROMS overall performance

I see that there are few custom roms on here like: RR and LineageOS, so my question is are these custom roms better then stock miui, if so what are their advantages?
>hows the battery life
>gaming performance (do games like pubg lag less?)
>overall look (i would like to have something thats completaly completely dark themed, that goes for settings as well)
Can someone tell me a little bit more about custom roms? Maybe something not many people know, im kinda new to this... and i still have to unlock my mi mix 2, waiting for 72 hours to pass, so i can unlock (and yes im aware i will lose all my data when i do it, i have my backups ready
oh also btw i got the phone like 2 days ago, so anything might be helpful
DTLNR said:
I see that there are few custom roms on here like: RR and LineageOS, so my question is are these custom roms better then stock miui, if so what are their advantages?
>hows the battery life
>gaming performance (do games like pubg lag less?)
>overall look (i would like to have something thats completaly completely dark themed, that goes for settings as well)
Can someone tell me a little bit more about custom roms? Maybe something not many people know, im kinda new to this... and i still have to unlock my mi mix 2, waiting for 72 hours to pass, so i can unlock (and yes im aware i will lose all my data when i do it, i have my backups ready
oh also btw i got the phone like 2 days ago, so anything might be helpful
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I'm not a modder and can't speak to how good one rom is over another. But most of what I've read says miui is still the best overall in terms of stability, bugs and battery life. The custom roms always seem to have one problem or another, a sensor doesn't work, a basic function is disabled etc. I'm not knocking custom roms but I've never found a compelling reason to change from miui.
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I'm not a modder and can't speak to how good one rom is over another. But most of what I've read says miui is still the best overall in terms of stability, bugs and battery life. The custom roms always seem to have one problem or another, a sensor doesn't work, a basic function is disabled etc. I'm not knocking custom roms but I've never found a compelling reason to change from miui.
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Can i remove the bloatware from MIUI and still get the updates? Cuz i heard somewhere that if you remove some pre installed sh*t miui wont update.
I actually dislike miui, it feels like they're stuck in 2010 or something, a lot of missing features that every other mid range phone has :/
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Can i remove the bloatware from MIUI and still get the updates? Cuz i heard somewhere that if you remove some pre installed sh*t miui wont update.
I actually dislike miui, it feels like they're stuck in 2010 or something, a lot of missing features that every other mid range phone has :/
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Most things can be removed or frozen without any ill effects. If you're not sure just freeze/disable them.
If there's one thing that miui is known for it's multiple features and customizations so I have no clue where you're going with that one. It IS fugly and the first thing I do is change the awful launcher.
Twotems said:
Most things can be removed or frozen without any ill effects. If you're not sure just freeze/disable them.
If there's one thing that miui is known for it's multiple features and customizations so I have no clue where you're going with that one. It IS fugly and the first thing I do is change the awful launcher.
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aight thanks, i will check for some lunchers now

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