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[Q] Hi! T-mobile GS III Question

i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.

Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO

o-k said:
i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
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Xda is just an outlet where people choose to post roms.
To check on the latest status of roms, you need to open the threads and read the OP. You also need to spend at least ten minutes reading each thread, That will tell you how stable each rom is and what kind of results people are having.
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place

shrimants said:
Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Actually that would be a great idea. It would help out the entire community.
Right now the way things exist, you pretty much have to read through an entire rom thread to determine the benefits/bugs of any given rom.
You could, for example, start a list for any particular rom.. read the entire thread, then make your own thread detailing current known bugs and post it in the same forum. Then the OP of the rom thread could post your link in the first post making it easy for everyone to find.
That would serve two purposes - you would learn the information you're seeking and also become an instantly appreciated contributor to the site.
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I'm surprised the rom developers dont already have a system in place, though. The scope of the projects are presumably gargantuan collaborative works. i kind of assumed that they must have some sort of a bug tracking thing that they use between them. That bug tracking thing is what i've been venturing to find. There are a ton of user-specific bugs that I have no problem digging through the forums and figuring out myself, but what i'd love to see with roms is a list of "this is what we know isnt working yet. dont talk to us about this. we are working on it." or at the very least, "when you flash this rom, if you would like to help, run this command and upload the output HERE so we can fix some bugs we know about".
I'm coming from a linux world and it is very disconcerting to me to flash a rom, encounter a bug/error, and not be able to look at any sort of an error message or do anything to fix the problem except reboot/wipe/reflash and hope for the best. thats a very windows-y mentality to the whole thing, and i feel like if we're running linux on the phones we should be able to get a bit more involved in fixing our own problems a bit better too.
I guess what i'm trying to say is, i'd like to help and i have no clue where to even begin. with archlinux theres a beginners guide but with these roms its more of a "watch this youtube video and follow this tutorial but god help you if anyone thinks you are complaining about what people are doing for you for FREE".
EDIT: I found CM10's issue tracker, but there isnt anything specific for the GS3 there. The flicker and picasa sync issues arent even mentioned. Obviously Paranoid Android and Kang will have the same bugs as CM10, but im assuming that they'll have their own bugs introduced after they add in their own features and such.

ok.
ingenious247 said:
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?

o-k said:
thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
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Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help

i have a question
ingenious247 said:
Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
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i've downloaded the CWM pro and the TB pro. i was wondering what exact ROMS i can use. There is also the difficulty of understanding which rom is exactly which. Is there a way to view the Change log? i'm a super noob. i'm really sorry.

Changelogs won't do you much good.
I recommend flashing everything through CWM (make sure you have 6.0.1.2 Touch - in my signature if not). I wouldn't use ROM Manager at all. Having automated tools is great, but learning how to do it yourself is even better. Plus, if you break something, knowning what you are doing makes it easier to fix. Automated tools hurt more than they help.
As for roms, your options pretty much are as follows:
CyanogenMod: AOSP, the closest thing we have to the stock Google firmware.
AOKP: Pretty much CyanogenMod with some extra options. Nothing extraordinary about those extra options, just some nice things like center clock, swagger toggles, and unicorns.
MIUI: iPhone look for Android.
ParanoidAndroid: Scalable - for tablets (imo).
Then you have the neverending amount of customized stock (TouchWiz) roms.
They are all under constant development. If you want "stable", stay on your stock firmware. All of the roms listed above are stable enough to use as a daily driver. They all have threads in the two Dev forums. But if you don't know what to pick, use CyanogenMod.

I still think ROM Manager is a great tool, it's how I started years ago and I still managed to learn what I needed to over time flashing manually
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[ROM REQ] Looking for someone to add Paranoid Settings to AOKP

I sincerely apologize if this is not posted in the correct location or if such a request is out of line. The only reason I am posting about this is because I believe that there would be a fair amount of people who would be interested.
I've installed many ROMs since I got my Galaxy Nexus on release day last year, but I have always come back to AOKP because every other ROM I've installed was missing at least one feature of AOKP that I use. Recently however I started playing with DPI settings and I'm in love with 240. I like the tablet layout of most apps, but certain ones, like the phone app look a little strange. Also, some apps, like the Navigon navigation app are next to impossible to use at this DPI. Naturally, I immediately flashed Paranoid Android so that I could get the per-app control of DPI. That lasted all of about 10 minutes, because I immediately noticed it was missing far too many features.
So basically I'm looking to see if there's a dev out there who can kang the Paranoid Settings to AOKP. Maybe if there's enough interest from other people who would like this I could set up a pool for donations. I know there's a couple ROMs floating around that are AOKP based Paranoid rather than CM based, but they are for other devices.
Eventually I'm going to try to do this myself if no one else is willing/able, however between being in school full time and my two jobs I probably wouldn't be able to start teaching myself until about May. Plus, my laptop is about 6 years old and I'm afraid it will be an extremely slow process.

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This!
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So far it seems like I've found three ROMs for other devices that combine PA and AOKP. King Kang for the Galaxy Note (which I think is still on ICS), PACman mostly on Sony devices as far as I could tell (PA/AOKP/CM), and Disarmed Toaster on some HTC phones. It's definitely possible and I imagine it would be quite popular...we just need to get a dev with a GNex to see the benefits!

Why don't you go to the AOKP thread and request the dev do so? Better to post there than here anyway. Don't get your hopes up though
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jimmyhook said:
Why don't you go to the AOKP thread and request the dev do so? Better to post there than here anyway. Don't get your hopes up though
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As far as I know they're still not interested in hearing feature requests unfortunately.
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I'm sure CM will become more of a beast with each update, and PA uses it as its base. Already highly customizable. I'm not even sure what the benefit of using AOKP as a base would be.
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Love this idea I thought about something similar 2 weeks ago when I flashed CNA on my Gnex. I know there to different development teams but I would love to see a Code Name Paranoid ROM that ROM would kick azz but that just opinion but +1 to this idea
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jimmyhook said:
I'm sure CM will become more of a beast with each update, and PA uses it as its base. Already highly customizable. I'm not even sure what the benefit of using AOKP as a base would be.
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The benefit of using AOKP as a base would be that there are a lot of very useful features in AOKP that aren't in CM.
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I thought AOKP already had a tablet mode? But I haven't wanted to leave PA yet.

slow88lx said:
I thought AOKP already had a tablet mode? But I haven't wanted to leave PA yet.
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It does. PA isn't about tablet mode, its about being able to control each app individually.
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slow88lx said:
I thought AOKP already had a tablet mode? But I haven't wanted to leave PA yet.
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no, its has build.prop dpi and a sysUI hack.
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The benefit of using AOKP as a base would be that there are a lot of very useful features in AOKP that aren't in CM. 2
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honestly, i think people are not fair with cyanogenmod. cm is a great rom and has tons of features. yes you cant color your buttons pink other than using theming engine, but my goodness is that really such a strongpoint? toys will sure come aswell.
i have seen these mixups btw, paranoid + cm + aokp. it pains me. i wont interfere but man, this is crazy. one rom i have seen has four toggle implementations, two from cm, one from us, one from aokp, it mixes paprefs with aokps dpi changer and a non-standard build.prop dpi, etc. its a complete mess and sometimes i wish i wish they'd just kang hybrid engine without bringing our name into it lol. :silly:
the reason its not easily ported to other roms is that its complicated. its literally spanning all over android, framework, core, policy, res, graphics, parts of sysUI rewritten from scratch, androids layout definitions were changed, apps had to be adjusted - and then the hybrid engine itself of course. its not a simple "git fetch" and you got it, it grew over half a year, hundreds of commits, reverts and pushes.
what really matters is what's more important to you. a pink button or a completely renewed phone with functions it never had before. you know, we're developers, too. you might aswell request someone should bring over missing features to cm/pa, its getting a little bit discouraging to see the focus in all devcommunities is often on kanging instead of developing.

molesarecoming said:
honestly, i think people are not fair with cyanogenmod. cm is a great rom and has tons of features. yes you cant color your buttons pink other than using theming engine, but my goodness is that really such a strongpoint? toys will sure come aswell.
i have seen these mixups btw, paranoid + cm + aokp. it pains me. i wont interfere but man, this is crazy. one rom i have seen has four toggle implementations, two from cm, one from us, one from aokp, it mixes paprefs with aokps dpi changer and a non-standard build.prop dpi, etc. its a complete mess and sometimes i wish i wish they'd just kang hybrid engine without bringing our name into it lol. :silly:
the reason its not easily ported to other roms is that its complicated. its literally spanning all over android, framework, core, policy, res, graphics, parts of sysUI rewritten from scratch, androids layout definitions were changed, apps had to be adjusted - and then the hybrid engine itself of course. its not a simple "git fetch" and you got it, it grew over half a year, hundreds of commits, reverts and pushes.
what really matters is what's more important to you. a pink button or a completely renewed phone with functions it never had before. you know, we're developers, too. you might aswell request someone should bring over missing features to cm/pa, its getting a little bit discouraging to see the focus in all devcommunities is often on kanging instead of developing.
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VERY well said.

molesarecoming said:
honestly, i think people are not fair with cyanogenmod. cm is a great rom and has tons of features. yes you cant color your buttons pink other than using theming engine, but my goodness is that really such a strongpoint? toys will sure come aswell.
i have seen these mixups btw, paranoid + cm + aokp. it pains me. i wont interfere but man, this is crazy. one rom i have seen has four toggle implementations, two from cm, one from us, one from aokp, it mixes paprefs with aokps dpi changer and a non-standard build.prop dpi, etc. its a complete mess and sometimes i wish i wish they'd just kang hybrid engine without bringing our name into it lol. :silly:
the reason its not easily ported to other roms is that its complicated. its literally spanning all over android, framework, core, policy, res, graphics, parts of sysUI rewritten from scratch, androids layout definitions were changed, apps had to be adjusted - and then the hybrid engine itself of course. its not a simple "git fetch" and you got it, it grew over half a year, hundreds of commits, reverts and pushes.
what really matters is what's more important to you. a pink button or a completely renewed phone with functions it never had before. you know, we're developers, too. you might aswell request someone should bring over missing features to cm/pa, its getting a little bit discouraging to see the focus in all devcommunities is often on kanging instead of developing.
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Thank you for chiming in!
I would be glad to put the little extra effort into using ZipThemer to change the NavBar buttons/colors in exchange for having ParanoidPreferences. CM however is missing a lot of things that I haven't been able to find any other way of accomplishing other than using a ROM with the features built in. Let me provide thorough specifics. I don't know how familiar you are with AOKP Rom Control, and obviously this is all personal to me, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt. There's nothing in General UI, Lockscreen, Power Menu, Clock, Signal, Sound, Weather, Vibrations, or Performance that I use. The Navigation Bar section however is a lot better. Not because of color/icon selection but because of the longpress settings and because of the NavBar Ring Targets. Neither of those are things I could find a way to replicate in CM/PA, and both have proven to be extremely useful. Also, I like the ability to set NavBar height separate from status bar DPI...this may have been in PA but I missed it. In terms of Battery; I use the battery bar, and hide the icon in the status bar. I know there's an app with similar functionality, however it doesn't work the same. As far as I could tell Toggles were pretty much the same. For LED, I don't use any of the settings other than being able to have the LED flash with the screen on. This, to me, is a necessity.
I agree 100% that the PA/AOKP/CM combinations are a bit ridiculous. (If you notice in the OP, I was looking for someone to add ParanoidPreferences into AOKP, not combine the ROMs). If I had the time/ability to do it myself, I would remove the DPI, tablet mode, and dual panel options from ROM control and just add ParanoidPreferences.
As I said, I would gladly give up some "convenience" features of AOKP, but some of the actual functionality I can't do without at this point. I did post a couple feature requests in the PA forum, but I'm very hesitant to do so. You have done amazing work, and I always feel that by requesting more features I would be minimizing all the hard work the devs have done.
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I don't know if this will ever happen, but I agree.. I LOVE aokp and the fact that it has basic tablet mode, but I had to stop using it because a holistic "tablet button" isn't quite usable for me.
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You said cm is missing a lot of things, but in the midst of your lengthy paragraph was only two or three small tweaks. No ROM can make everyone one hundred percent happy, but it sounds like PA has 99 percent of what you need.... am I missing something?
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jimmyhook said:
You said cm is missing a lot of things, but in the midst of your lengthy paragraph was only two or three small tweaks. No ROM can make everyone one hundred percent happy, but it sounds like PA has 99 percent of what you need.... am I missing something?
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I don't recall saying CM is missing a lot of things, but if I did than I apologize. In the OP at least I said this:
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I have always come back to AOKP because every other ROM I've installed was missing at least one feature of AOKP that I use.
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It's not about the amount of features, it's about weighing the importance of features. I guess in my mind I thought it would be easier to add ParanoidPreferences to AOKP rather than the other way around. Mostly, as I said, because the PA developers are busy with their own thing and don't need a bunch of people asking for new features. If those couple features could be added to PA that would be much preferred.

CyanogenPure?

I love CyanogenMod, I really do. It is constantly improving and the devs working on it obviously work very hard to keep things running smoothly. However, with a codebase this large, constant improvements inevitably leads to a fairly consistent stream of new bugs amidst the improvements. I understand that nightlies are not intended to be used as daily drivers, although usually they are stable enough for most here at XDA.
Acknowledging all of this: I can't help but wish on some days that I could take the excellent skills/care/devotion of the CyanogenMod team and have them devote a fraction of their work to create a pure, optimized AOSP ROM. No mods, no community apps, and (hopefully) no bugs. This would be an incredible stop-gap between the initial build of a new CM nightlie (say, CM11) and the inevitable stable release.
This is NOT a statement against the added mods/apps to CyanogenMod (File Manager, Apollo, DSP Manager, etc.), I am very much of the opinion that these additions are beneficial, even necessary to the growth of CyanogenMod.
I do not expect this to happen, and I especially do not expect them to go back through CM10 and line-by-line strip all of their adjustments/additions. I understand that they are all very busy at work to keep us happy, and I appreciate that. Think of this as wishful thinking from a big fan.
Am I alone in this opinion?

it is called an AOSP rom. in this case vanilla. get a nexus device for that

Obviously, but I think you're missing my point...or you didn't read my post.

ohfoxxxycole said:
create a pure, optimized AOSP ROM. No mods, no community apps, and (hopefully) no bugs.
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A vanilla android rom with a custom kernel
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XxSilent.NightmarexX said:
A vanilla android rom with a custom kernel
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Yes, but done by devs that know what they're doing.

Every single dev here knows what they are doing. Plus aosp is easy to compile for any device
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I don't see any after a quick search. I've used pure vanilla ROMs on my evo/evo3d and they were pretty terrible. I just assumed, by prior experience and lack of vanilla roms here, that they were tricky.

no, thats just because AOSP roms lack features that people crave from CM or AOKP

Alright, so we're back to my initial post now.

In other words an aosp pure android rom is not people look forward to. Cm10 stable rom is there and probably with like one minor bug or two.
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I know how you feel; I wish they would release a stable ROM for those that prefer stability over speed/features

EXACTLY. i love how hard the devs work to improve android and add features but until its possible to get a stable rom with these features I'd prefer simple, pure vanilla with all work going towards stability. Maybe I'll start on that one day
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ohfoxxxycole said:
EXACTLY. i love how hard the devs work to improve android and add features but until its possible to get a stable rom with these features I'd prefer simple, pure vanilla with all work going towards stability. Maybe I'll start on that one day
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You can't ask for optimization with stability. The nightlies are there because that's what they're trying to achieve, if it's not stable enough for you - don't use it. Go back to TW. That's the closest to pure stable for this device you're going to get. There are -always- bugs, even in the most fine tuned software, because it's all about what the user puts on their devices and how it interacts with the system.
Plus, not too long ago CM released the CM10 Milestone 2. It's stable enough for daily use. Give that a shot. If it's not to your liking, pull CM's device tree into a freshly synced repo of AOSP and compile it. See how easy it is to get it working.

There are -always- bugs, even in the most fine tuned software, because it's all about what the user puts on their devices and how it interacts with the system.
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this is true, but i'd be using this with mostly stock software + social network feeds and games only
the milestones are a great idea, and probably the closest thing im going to get to this, but they are still snapshots of mostly stable aosp with many many tweaks to keep modifications that i may or may not use stable. not exactly ideal, but thanks for the suggestion. i'll probably stick with the newest m build when it is ready.
im not asking for cms device tree compiled as it is, or anything at all. im just hoping that before or adjacent to cm11 getting going with mods and tweaks that they will release builds tailored to vanilla and nothing else, concentrating only on bugs before adding things and testing them and adding things and breaking things and testing them and so on and so forth. i feel im not communicating this efficiently and im sorry

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You can't ask for optimization with stability. The nightlies are there because that's what they're trying to achieve, if it's not stable enough for you - don't use it. Go back to TW. That's the closest to pure stable for this device you're going to get. There are -always- bugs, even in the most fine tuned software, because it's all about what the user puts on their devices and how it interacts with the system.
Plus, not too long ago CM released the CM10 Milestone 2. It's stable enough for daily use. Give that a shot. If it's not to your liking, pull CM's device tree into a freshly synced repo of AOSP and compile it. See how easy it is to get it working.
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Does the bottom mic work on M2? What about the data drops that constantly happen? Does it transition well from LTE to 3G, vice versa?
And these are serious questions, I'm not trying to be a [email protected] at all.
I have a 20 month old baby girl so I do a lot of video recording, so the bottom mic is important to me since the top one doesn't pick anything up unless you're basically speaking directly into it. I do a lot of business through my phone, so a reliable data connection is obviously very important too. I've had BB6 on my phone for about a week now, and I absolutely love it...with these two exceptions. It seems they're both problems with all AOSP ROMs. If they get fixed sooner rather than later, there will be zero reason to have TW ROM for me.
EDIT: And GPS seems to take quite a bit longer to lock on compared to TW.

hayzooos said:
Does the bottom mic work on M2? What about the data drops that constantly happen? Does it transition well from LTE to 3G, vice versa?
And these are serious questions, I'm not trying to be a [email protected] at all.
I have a 20 month old baby girl so I do a lot of video recording, so the bottom mic is important to me since the top one doesn't pick anything up unless you're basically speaking directly into it. I do a lot of business through my phone, so a reliable data connection is obviously very important too. I've had BB6 on my phone for about a week now, and I absolutely love it...with these two exceptions. It seems they're both problems with all AOSP ROMs. If they get fixed sooner rather than later, there will be zero reason to have TW ROM for me.
EDIT: And GPS seems to take quite a bit longer to lock on compared to TW.
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I was using m2 for quite a while before I switched over to bb6. In my time playing with m2 I found that video recording was fine and data connectivity took about 10 seconds longer on a reboot. Other than that I've experienced no data drops.
To add to this, YMMV. I'm not sure if my phone is different somehow but I've never had any of these problems that people describe with data drops at random.
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Also, as far as lte/3g hand off goes, I'm unable to test as I'm not in an lte area. As for GPS, it takes about 7 seconds to lock on in a room with no windows. Tested on slimbean, so again YMMV
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Just try looking into building aosp from source its really not that hard it will just take some time. You could even use the device tree for d2spr from cm so you really will just be using pure stock
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ohfoxxxycole said:
I don't see any after a quick search. I've used pure vanilla ROMs on my evo/evo3d and they were pretty terrible. I just assumed, by prior experience and lack of vanilla roms here, that they were tricky.
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You're clearly smoking some good crack. AOSP ROMs for the E3D are awesome right now.

Months ago
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[Q] Q&A and list of bugs for custom roms

im looking to flash a new rom and i want to thoroughly reserach it before flashing. Does anyone know where I can find FAQs and list of issues to the following roms?
Such as something like AOKP has
[ROM] AOKP(Jellybean 4.2.1 )Task650 (2.2.2013b) (AT&T)
FAQ:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29198513&postcount=3
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29198513#post29198513
[ROM][CM10:Hybrid] PARANOIDANDROID 2.55 (11/21)
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819441
Though I couldnt find a summary or a list of report bugs
[ROM][PA:AOKP] ParanoidKANGdroid 1.40 (11/21) The Most Customizable ROM on Earth!
I couldnt find any Q&A for this ROM, but PA had it......
[ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10 Nightly Builds for SGH-I747
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786563
I couldnt find list of bugs for CM10, speciifcally for stable or Milestones.
If there is a link to what I'm asking for above that will be great. If not, i'll continue reading through the threads.
I'm looking at CM10 and I've been reading lots of issues even at stable......sometimes it makes me think
1) Why do people flash custom roms?
2) is it worth getting a new menu but in exchange your camera, bt, or whatever might not work. Or worse yet, something that you need but only discover that it doesnt work when you use it on the spot?

understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?

xBeerdroiDx said:
understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?
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running Paranoid Android.
It's fairly stable, I haven't ran into too many problems yet.
I did notice it was a bit laggier than my stock ICS after my ICS was supercharged with V6.
its also a bit laggier on games.
It delivers a few customizations i like, like calls only log, custom boot animation, customizable quick launch, face unlock that is fickle.....but i just cant see as of right now why I would change? I lose the ability to make folders on trebuchet (yes....i know Nova Prime), I lose hand swipe screen capture, i lose smart stay (yes there are apps for it). I almost wnat to say battery is a bit worse than stock, during idle its about the same.
You also lose s planner which i found a replacement apps. It just seems like a lot of work restoring sms, tibu, changing all settings to your liking, reinstalling launcher and load settings, loading contact information etc etc for the ability to add toggles, sliding background......
I'm cool for the aesthetics, but i wonder is there any practical improvements, as in performance, speed, signal, battery life.... i think i would enjoy that rom better..........would going to AOKP be the one for me?

I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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xBeerdroiDx said:
I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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Yea i figured i'd jump to AOKP next since PA has CM10 integrated within it already.
I've also tried Ariel (ICS rom), not only did it lack customizability, it wasnt stable. it felt like a less stable version of stock..... i was highly disappointed in my first custom rom. Its not that i like TW necessarily, but the way that everything is set up, its pretty smooth for me and the battery is good too.
I want to try out AOKP or PK before making a decision though.

Best ROM with these criteria?

My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.

flroots said:
My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.
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well i would say the custom TouchWiz roms for your sprint one i don't know about the AT&T one though........

Anyone else?

flroots said:
Anyone else?
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Use the at&t and sprint s3 android development forums.
Check the titles for TW VS aosp, os version, blah, blah.
Read the Ops for specifics.
I also look for roms with a lot of chatter in the thread, and roms that appear to be regularly updated.
The problem with ur question is that if u get 20 answers you'll get 17 different roms...
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g_money said:
Use the at&t and sprint s3 android development forums.
Check the titles for TW VS aosp, os version, blah, blah.
Read the Ops for specifics.
I also look for roms with a lot of chatter in the thread, and roms that appear to be regularly updated.
The problem with ur question is that if u get 20 answers you'll get 17 different roms...
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Thanks. I have been doing something like that. With respect to my Sprint (L710) variant I have installed and tested these four:
SlimKat (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400593)
modified Stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741413)
CM11 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030660)
Gummy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563973)
Do they represent a good cross section of available ROMs or am I missing a bunch of good ones? In particular, I disqualified the second option since several apps couldn't write to extsdcard even though I have installed and executed SDFix. SDFix is not required for the first option and it does everything I want. I also tried CM11, but it seems to have more bloatware than SlimKat and no obvious advantages. Gummy kept giving me FC's on various gapps apps. In summary SlimKat has floated to the top. My only complaint is that I had to tweak the dpi, but the texdroider app fixed that. What are some good options that I'm overlooking?

flroots said:
Thanks. I have been doing something like that. With respect to my Sprint (L710) variant I have installed and tested these four:
SlimKat (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400593)
modified Stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741413)
CM11 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030660)
Gummy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563973)
Do they represent a good cross section of available ROMs or am I missing a bunch of good ones? In particular, I disqualified the second option since several apps couldn't write to extsdcard even though I have installed and executed SDFix. SDFix is not required for the first option and it does everything I want. I also tried CM11, but it seems to have more bloatware than SlimKat and no obvious advantages. Gummy kept giving me FC's on various gapps apps. In summary SlimKat has floated to the top. My only complaint is that I had to tweak the dpi, but the texdroider app fixed that. What are some good options that I'm overlooking?
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on the TW side there is Wicked X 8.0/Barebones and Tribute rom and AOSP you can try CarbonRom or some of the newer roms like Broken OS, GrapheneROM a optimized CarbonRom, Spirit Rom, TMS3-Dark_Droid-3

6th_Hokage said:
on the TW side there is Wicked X 8.0/Barebones and Tribute rom and AOSP you can try CarbonRom or some of the newer roms like Broken OS, GrapheneROM a optimized CarbonRom, Spirit Rom, TMS3-Dark_Droid-3
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Thanks. I'll check those out. I forgot to mention, but another criteria is that any candidate ROM must be available on both the Sprint and AT&T variant of the Galaxy S3. I've eliminated quite a few on that basis.
Update: Based on a bit of Googling it appears as follows:
Wicked X -> Sprint only
Tribute ROM -> Sprint only
Carbon ROM -> both Sprint and AT&T
Based on that I'll investigate Carbon ROM and if it seems appropriate, give it a try. I just checked out Carbon ROM for Sprint. It appears the forum petered out back in February and the download links are broken. Think I'll pass on that one. Also, I hesitate to try the newer ones you mentioned since my most important criteria is stability (ie, bug free). Thanks again.

flroots said:
Based on that I'll investigate Carbon ROM and if it seems appropriate, give it a try. I just checked out Carbon ROM for Sprint. It appears the forum petered out back in February and the download links are broken. Think I'll pass on that one. Also, I hesitate to try the newer ones you mentioned since my most important criteria is stability (ie, bug free). Thanks again.
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Keep in mind there are quite a few ROMs (including Carbon) for our device, that are very active on Google+ and not here.

I would say broken os rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-sprint/development/4-4-4-brokenos-t2890496

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Keep in mind there are quite a few ROMs (including Carbon) for our device, that are very active on Google+ and not here.
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Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

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I would say broken os rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-sprint/development/4-4-4-brokenos-t2890496
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Thanks. I'm trying BrokenOS. So far it seems fine, but I haven't noticed many differences from SlimKat. Can you offer any pros or cons that would help me decide?
I do see that it offers both the Nova and Google Now launchers. Nova has an extensive settings page which includes a handy backup and restore feature. I can't find anything similar with Google Now? I can't even change the grid (icons per row and column). Am I missing something?

flroots said:
Thanks. I'm trying BrokenOS. So far it seems fine, but I haven't noticed many differences from SlimKat. Can you offer any pros or cons that would help me decide?
I do see that it offers both the Nova and Google Now launchers. Nova has an extensive settings page which includes a handy backup and restore feature. I can't find anything similar with Google Now? I can't even change the grid (icons per row and column). Am I missing something?
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I'm pretty sure the base of the rom is based off of slim not sure though. Well broken os is very smooth and fast never had any force closes battery life is great on it.
For the Google launcher it doesn't have anything really you can customize. So no you aren't missing anything there. I would say to use nova.

CarbonRom is back up here is the link for the D2LTE which will work for both your S3's and here is the Change Log if you want to check it out.....

Thisismyringtone said:
I'm pretty sure the base of the rom is based off of slim not sure though. Well broken os is very smooth and fast never had any force closes battery life is great on it.
For the Google launcher it doesn't have anything really you can customize. So no you aren't missing anything there. I would say to use nova.
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Thanks. That helps.

6th_Hokage said:
CarbonRom is back up here is the link for the D2LTE which will work for both your S3's and here is the Change Log if you want to check it out.....
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Thanks. I see your link if for Nightlies. As mentioned, my first criteria is stability so I'm probably not interested in them. Is there an operational site with a stable version?

flroots said:
Thanks. I see your link if for Nightlies. As mentioned, my first criteria is stability so I'm probably not interested in them. Is there an operational site with a stable version?
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That's the official site.....the reason they are nightlies is because the developers add and remove features all the time it's in the channel log..but the basic functions of the phone always work.....so they are stable nightlies....

Thanks for all the feedback. I've tentatively selected SlimKat. It's the slimmest of all tested and seems fully functional. BrokenOS seemed nice as well, but it was slightly less slim, much less active development, and didn't offer any noticeable advantages. I'd still be interested in recommendations. As mentioned, a candidate must be available for both the Sprint and AT&T variant.

6th_Hokage said:
That's the official site.....the reason they are nightlies is because the developers add and remove features all the time it's in the channel log..but the basic functions of the phone always work.....so they are stable nightlies....
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Thanks. I had some time this morning, so I installed the latest Carbon ROM nightly. Here are my comments so far based upon limited testing:
Closer to stock than SlimKat (eg, dpi, icon size, etc)
Google Now toolbar top of all home screens
Calendar not included in ROM nor gapps (so installed Google Calendar from Play Store)
Titanium Backup Pro complained about installed SuperSU (so flashed Update-SuperSU by Chainfire)
SuperSU app tends to hang (temporarily clear via reboot)
Several icons appear on Lock Screen (they seem to taken from notification screen)
Fully functional so far (with exception of SuperSU)
Less slim than SlimKat (Nandroid 951MB vs 783MB)

flroots said:
My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.
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You see...that is the problem...BEST can only ever be opinion...they are all the BEST for the people using them if you check the individual development threads.
Battery performance will vary from user to user....ROMs have little to no effect on battery performance...it is how you set up the kernel and your usage/preferences/signal and such that affect it..not the ROM.
You can only learn about stability by reading the development thread. There may be an app or dirty flash or lemon phone that makes something unstable for one person and not for the other 1000's of users of that ROM..and maybe that one guy comments here and not the other 1000.
Again performance is kernel related and the settings in the kernel....learn how to ajust your kernel settings mostly through trial and error.
Active development...you just need to check the first page of the development section...the ones on the top page with most replies are the most active.
So that leaves compact in size...search through them for the words debloated and look at the download size.
The rest will be mostly opinion and things you will need to learn by trial and error.
Googling for best ROMs will turn up garbage as again there is no baseline...did everyone start with a clean flash? Was the download good? Is there decision for BEST based on ludicrous items like color? Included launcher? You may as well be asking what's the best curtains to use in my living room? You will get everything from price, to color, to thermal blocking, to texture, to cleanability.....all relative to the person using them.
Hope this helps and explains why you will never find a useful best rom thread and kudos for actually listing some criteria.

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You see...that is the problem...BEST can only ever be opinion...they are all the BEST for the people using them if you check the individual development threads.
Battery performance will vary from user to user....ROMs have little to no effect on battery performance...it is how you set up the kernel and your usage/preferences/signal and such that affect it..not the ROM.
You can only learn about stability by reading the development thread. There may be an app or dirty flash or lemon phone that makes something unstable for one person and not for the other 1000's of users of that ROM..and maybe that one guy comments here and not the other 1000.
Again performance is kernel related and the settings in the kernel....learn how to ajust your kernel settings mostly through trial and error.
Active development...you just need to check the first page of the development section...the ones on the top page with most replies are the most active.
So that leaves compact in size...search through them for the words debloated and look at the download size.
The rest will be mostly opinion and things you will need to learn by trial and error.
Googling for best ROMs will turn up garbage as again there is no baseline...did everyone start with a clean flash? Was the download good? Is there decision for BEST based on ludicrous items like color? Included launcher? You may as well be asking what's the best curtains to use in my living room? You will get everything from price, to color, to thermal blocking, to texture, to cleanability.....all relative to the person using them.
Hope this helps and explains why you will never find a useful best rom thread and kudos for actually listing some criteria.
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Thanks. I understand what you are saying, however, I have found the comments to be useful especially in terms of narrowing down the number of candidates to evaluate. In the final analysis, I must do my own research. At the moment, my personal favorite is SlimKat and I use it as a baseline for comparing others.