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As most users on XDA, I've got a rooted device that I want to use a custom ROM on, and there are so many choices it makes choosing a ROM very difficult.
And it is all a matter of preference, depending what included features (included Gapps, default launcher, notification options, etc) or what base it is built from (CM10, AOSP, AOKP, etc) everyone has their own preference.
I created this public spreadsheet, but I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs. It has really taken off since I originally created it.
http://goo.gl/U8a0E
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android.
Thanks everyone who makes updates to the sheet. I would also like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable ROMs that meet our individual needs.
And, as the Google Doc can be viewed by ANYONE, must get permission on google account to edit.
My personal "Must Haves":
- T9 Dialer (avoid having to install separate dialer app)
- Customizable Notification drop down for Additional Toggles (this has replaced the need for Widgetsoid2 since I can have the Flashlight and Wifi AP here.)
- Reboot and Reboot to Recovery in Power Menu (Mostly Reboot as a minimum as I sometimes forget to turn it back on if I Poweroff)
- Battery Percentage in Status Bar (The logo itself is no where near specific enough for my needs, and I now prefer the circle style)
NOVEMBER 24, 2012 UPDATE: Personally I've switched over to Paranoid Android 2.99.3 (beta 3), it doesn't have my personal must haves yet, but I'm sure it will, currently I'd rather have 4.2 and lose a few features, than be running 4.1.2, it is one of the first roms with customizations to be released on AOSP 4.2, so until it is 3.x it could have some bugs.
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I've tried a few ROMs on my Unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus and am still trying to find the ROM that has all the features I want. And is the most stable with those features.
I just created this public spreadsheet, mostly for my own use so it is very basic at the moment. But I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Like I said, it is very empty right now and is completely open to others who want to make changes to it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android, and I haven't even included it on the Google Spreadsheet yet as I still haven't tried it.
I would like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable and fast versions of what CM10 can't do yet, isn't stable enough to use yet, or may never do in some cases.
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This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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dejson said:
This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.
HwyXingFrog said:
Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.
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Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent
ThunderStick said:
Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent
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Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.
So, after all of that, and the spreadsheet getting updated by users pretty nicely, it looks like there is a functional enough CM10 (from the +Google page) v1.8 that is stable enough for me to start using as a daily driver for at least a few days.
I'll be using Gapps-b as I need Picasa sync to be working.
Damn! That's great work, well done! Keeping this up to date will be the hardest part but if you manage it you will help the Galaxy Nexus community a lot! I'll try to help. Keep up the good work.
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Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.
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I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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I agree, I didn't put the battery life on there, all roms except the Nightlies like to advertise "Good" battery life anyway.
That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.
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That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.
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You could leave the public version as is, but add a "revised" version (editable only by you) that weeds out any egregious and obvious inaccuracies.
Oops misread.
I started one of these back in the day for the droid Eris. You should be able to leave it public, you can always see and revert changes.
Can we get a column for cdma vs GSM?
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Thanks for sharing man! Im using xenonhd ad my first custom ROM band its fine
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So, overall, I definitely accomplished what I wanted to do with the Google Doc, everyone has been awesome with their updates to it.
But, for myself, the Doc is basically useless as soon as I found CM10 v1.8 on the +Google page, which is basically a very stable nightly (although it isn't), it is exactly what I wanted....
It's very stable, gives me all the features I have as my "Bare Minimum"
- Toggles in notification screen
- Battery Percentage in Status bar
- Reboot options in shutdown menu
I ended up in the exact same state after trying numerous custom roms on my HTC Desire and Motorola Atrix previously, always just ending up with CyanogenMod7.
And I happened to just fall onto the +Google post with v1.8 while compiling the Google Doc. Was about to download 1.3 then 1.8 was posted and I'm LOVING it.
And as long as I stick to CM10, I shouldn't have to wipe my data, I'm tired of doing all my Titanium Restores (as I don't have the paid version).
Again, thanks everyone for updating the Google Doc, and as I've made it public, anyone should be able to update it and keep it updated for other people out there that want to use custom roms. And if anyone ever needs to revert anything that really breaks it, all you have to do is log in with your google account.
I really hope it helps some people find the ROM they want to use for their specific needs. And it would be nice to see more of these for different devices, especially for devices not officially supported by CyanogenMod. I may have to get one started for my Motorola Atrix 4G.
Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.
Great work. Should always be maintained and help users what they really want.
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Bayint Naung said:
Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.
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It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.
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It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.
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Speaking of that, does anyone know what document viewer the stock Nexus uses, and if there is an Play App, or APK I can install on CM10 that is the same.
I have Documents to Go, but I'm wondering what the Stock nexus one is.
I've added this to the spreadsheet as CM10 not having one, so if we know which app the Stock has I can put that on the spreadsheet.
Thanks.
Hi guys,
I have a GS3 (Rogers/AT&T model)
I have rooted, installed CMW Recovery and been trying to get my S3 working 100% but I keep running into issues. These issues are making me want to go back to the stock Samsung ROM, but just trying to figure out if there is a custom ROM out there, maybe not CyanogenMod that could address the issues I am running into.
- For some reason my Cyanmodgen 9 stable download includes the Camera app, but any of the CM10 nightly ROM's I've tried do not have it all. I've been using a third party camera app, Camera Zoom and it's alright but it doesn't have the Panorama option of the stock Samsung Camera app. I kind of miss the panorama being built into the main camera app.
- I cannot get S-Voice either properly installed via Cyanogen 9 or 10. I've tried different methods and different google apps/samsung apps .zip files flashing via CWM. Some of them end up having S-Voice install but when I try and run the app and actually do a search it just crashes.
-The stock video app worked far better than the "gallery" app in Cyanogen 9/10 or the third party apps I've used (like VLC, etc). I also sort of miss the ability to multitask while still playing video (the "picture in picture" / send an email while watching video) option that the stock video app had. I know its not a feature I'll use too often, but it's pretty cool and I enjoyed it before I flashed a non-stock ROM.
I really don't know much about the custom ROM's out there beyond C9/C10 and the developer forum and the seemingly hundreds of custom ROM's out there. Do you think any of them will address the above three concerns (no panorama in main camera app, s-voice not working or installing properly, no video playback while in another app), or should I just go back to the stock ROM?
Thanks.
Cm10 has panorama built in to its camera app. Most devs strip svoice out of tw roms even, so I'd doubt if someone is going through all the trouble to get it on cm10. I know to each is own, but it's generally regarded as Crap. Use Google now, it's pretty dang slick.
Sammys video player is a sweet app, but I believe it requires tw framework, aka, not cm10. Not sure of an app to replace it, sorry.
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for some reason in the two CM10 flashes I've done (one from 10/02 and one from yesterday), neither of them had the camera app installed. I don't suppose there is a way to find just the .apk for the CM10 camera app?
Did you try task & ktoonsez aokp?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28622378
The camera works and panorama as well!
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Sianspheric said:
for some reason in the two CM10 flashes I've done (one from 10/02 and one from yesterday), neither of them had the camera app installed. I don't suppose there is a way to find just the .apk for the CM10 camera app?
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Are you even flashing gapps?
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Yes, I believe it's the right file, I flash it right after I flash CM (after wiping the cache and dalvik cache), even done a few full wipes of memory too.
flashing:
"gapps-ics-20120429-signed.zip"
or is there a different gapps I should be using?
Sianspheric said:
Yes, I believe it's the right file, I flash it right after I flash CM (after wiping the cache and dalvik cache), even done a few full wipes of memory too.
flashing:
"gapps-ics-20120429-signed.zip"
or is there a different gapps I should be using?
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If using cm10 or aokp you have to flash the jellybean gapps. You have the ICS gapps that's why its not working.
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wwevoxnj said:
If using cm10 or aokp you have to flash the jellybean gapps. You have the ICS gapps that's why its not working.
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Here's where to find the CM10/ Jelly Bean version of Gapps: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Gapps#Google_Apps
Scroll down the page until you see the CM10 apps and you can download it direct to you phone or to your computer and then transfer it to your phone. I'd recommend wiping your phone and starting with a fresh install of CM10 and the Gapps file. In CWM recovery I always flash the CM10 .zip first and then the Gapps .zip second when I'm doing a clean install and I haven't had a problem yet doing it that way.
That should solve some of your problems and give you a better experience with CM10! :cyclops:
Got a proper CM10 installed with Gapps zip but still wasn't happy with the CM Camera app and third party video apps. Flashed Triune 2 and loving it. Original TouchWiz goodies like Camera / Video Player, S-Voice and none of the bloatware I wanted to avoid.
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I was really happy with Kyan but I prefer to "freeze" or un-install the apps I don't want. Anything JellyBean related right now is going to have issues depending on what you use you phone for. I like touchwiz....I like the ripple unlock and the feel of the phone but I prefer the 15 toggles and blue in the status bar. I am using Blackjelly 6.1 and have been really happy with it so far. CM10 works well and does come with a camera app but make sure you factory wipe if you are coming from anything else.
While I really like and appreciate all of the work that everyone puts into all of the different ROM's that are rolling around out there. I have found that I always go back to Nunhugger's Triune II(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796502). It's a stock ROM based on the LH1 firmware, it has TW, and some of the wizbang stuff from Samsung(a lot is stripped out though). I've found it to be the most rock solid, dependable ROM that I've tried. But he does have some of the addon features, ext power, call recording etc.
Again, NOTHING against the other dev's and what they are doing, I enjoy their work a lot. But in the end, I go back to Triune II
You can not use any Samsung apps that are touchwiz specific, such as the camera or the music player, with an AOSP ROM like CM10. They will not work because of the framework.
regarding the stock video app being able to play videos while multitasking, Moboplayer has the same feature.
kangi26 said:
While I really like and appreciate all of the work that everyone puts into all of the different ROM's that are rolling around out there. I have found that I always go back to Nunhugger's Triune II(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796502). It's a stock ROM based on the LH1 firmware, it has TW, and some of the wizbang stuff from Samsung(a lot is stripped out though). I've found it to be the most rock solid, dependable ROM that I've tried. But he does have some of the addon features, ext power, call recording etc.
Again, NOTHING against the other dev's and what they are doing, I enjoy their work a lot. But in the end, I go back to Triune II
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Yep, I installed Triune 2 a few days ago and am loving it so far. It was exactly what I was looking for.
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You can not use any Samsung apps that are touchwiz specific, such as the camera or the music player, with an AOSP ROM like CM10. They will not work because of the framework.
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thanks for the info
just kind of wondering.....what makes users so attracted to CyanogenMod? I have two friends that throughout the process of doing my first root+installing CMW Recovery, both of them highly recommended CM.
I had it for a week, but (see original post in this thread) it just wasn't for me, I wanted the Samsung/Touchwiz players.
So I am wondering what I am really missing by now using a ROM that is more similar to the stock ROM (currently using Triune II)
I've tried many different ROMs and CM10 just seems more feature rich than other ROMs with tweaking of settings. It's also been good for memory since my phone never went below 800MB. However, I just flashed back to stock and even after removing 66 bloatware apps/services my memory will go down to 500MB. There are still more services that I'll have to uninstall to free up RAM. But CM10 also lacks many of the stock GSIII features like Smart Stay (screen stays on when you're looking at it), the video multitasking, and even a simple backlight keys always on. I have noticed CM10 is faster and more responsive than the stock ROM. Pulling down the notification bar and entering exiting the app drawer is much smoother and responsive vs Stock. I also liked being able to set my own auto brightness levels.
One feature, that AOKP has, which I would love to see in CM10 or another ROM, is the less frequent notifications. It basically prevents an app from doing too many notifications within a designated time frame. So if you have a friend that likes to send 5 texts/IMs within 30 seconds you can make the ROM only give out 1 notification instead of all 5.
I was just on the forums looking for a debloated Enhanced Stock experience so now I'm going to download and try out Triune II.
I have had my HTC One X for a while after I ditched my Sony Xperia Acro S.
I currently love the phone but is it worth it to upgrade to CyanogenMod (10)?
Or should I just wait for the official JB Update.
The reason why I am asking this question is because I have heard that when you root your phone and install a custom ROM, HTC would refuse to give OTA to those certain phones that were rooted/flashed. Is this true? or can I just root/flash without worry?
Just wanted to hear some thoughts.
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I know the JB update isn't out yet so we can't review it and the leaked ones aren't official but I'm just curious if its worth upgrading the CM 10.
OTA is a patch, so it can't be applied to a different ROM.
If you restore your original ROM, you will be able to receive updates. If you restore original recovery, you can install the update.
BenPope said:
OTA is a patch, so it can't be applied to a different ROM.
If you restore your original ROM, you will be able to receive updates. If you restore original recovery, you can install the update.
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Thanks for your reply. That was a typo error. I meant to say phones that were formerly rooted or flashed were not allowed to receive OTAs anymore for the stock rom but anyway, thank you.
Ooshi said:
I currently love the phone but is it worth it to upgrade to CyanogenMod (10)?
Or should I just wait for the official JB Update
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Depends really just on you. But if you are unlocked already. You can try it out and revert back as Ben said.
If you hate Sense as me, and like CM, CM10 can be your choice.
I have only few issues with CM10 but wont switch back to Stock despite them.
The issues I am still facing is:
1. flickering, despite different kernels, stock rom has this figured out better
2. WiFi also stock ROM much better, on CM it wont switch in my network to a better AP no matter what I do....
But thats about it it has many benefits for me. Some of them, that come to top of my head.
1. DPI Change to 240 and I wont have tweak the notification bar (also it has the nice color change on connect to google + percentage)
2. Updates, I love nightlies
3. Fast but so fast... no unnecessary crap
4. Multitasking much better as on Stock where its non existing
I love CM/AOKP (and all the builds based upon), but due to HTC's laziness and closed nature, the 'best & latest' drivers for the One X will always be with Sense. That is in respect to the latest kernel, camera framework, beats & audio drivers. Yeah sure HTC release their kernel sources eventually, but usually by the time they have a new kernel from them is out. I dread to think about when the community will get the 3.1 sources.
The camera is the biggest loss for me, the Sense camera, especially with the JB camera build is just far better than any CM/AOKP camera or Play Store app I've tried. To even come close we really need someone to take the camera out of CM/AOKP (or create a new app) and modify/update it solely for the One X.
When running Sense I really miss proper density settings (Sense crashes on density lower than 300), and with most ROMs I have to spend time de-bloating.
With all the hardware issues I've had with my One X at the start, HTC's retarded bootloader warranty policy, and other general unhappiness, I'm going with a Google phone next time - Best community support and openness. 3rd parties seem to only care about pushing their own software, most of which is just bad compared to AOSP. Then don't get me started on contract branded handsets, I don't know how people on here can handle getting updates soo late.
I prefer cyanogenmod ben it is true that SENSE bring many interesting feature ! :good:
I like the AOSP/CM10 look of Android, but there are issues that annoyed me and forced me to go back to sense roms. Flickering, Wifi, Battery and the most important one was Camera.
Now usually I get a sense rom and de-sense it.
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Thanks for your reply. That was a typo error. I meant to say phones that were formerly rooted or flashed were not allowed to receive OTAs anymore for the stock rom but anyway, thank you.
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HTC Wouldn't do that! They provided the ways to get root, so in a sort of way they support it.
Cyan Delta App
As an aside, if you switch to Cyanogenmod 10 you can use the Cyan Delta app from the Play Store. This is brilliant if you like the nightlies as it only downloads the actual changes and not the full rom.
This app really makes life easy if you like flashing a rom daily. Saves repeatedly loading all your apps and settings, etc.
Just a thought!!
Regarding your question, I was going to wait for the official OTA Jelly Bean update, but got sick of waiting. For what it's worth, my highest benchmark on Antutu with CM10 is 12686 though when you go to submit it says 12706. (I'm unsure why Antutu gives you one score then adds a bit on?). Highest score on ICS stock Rom 12486 preliminary and 12518 final.
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Dave
im looking to flash a new rom and i want to thoroughly reserach it before flashing. Does anyone know where I can find FAQs and list of issues to the following roms?
Such as something like AOKP has
[ROM] AOKP(Jellybean 4.2.1 )Task650 (2.2.2013b) (AT&T)
FAQ:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29198513&postcount=3
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29198513#post29198513
[ROM][CM10:Hybrid] PARANOIDANDROID 2.55 (11/21)
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819441
Though I couldnt find a summary or a list of report bugs
[ROM][PA:AOKP] ParanoidKANGdroid 1.40 (11/21) The Most Customizable ROM on Earth!
I couldnt find any Q&A for this ROM, but PA had it......
[ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10 Nightly Builds for SGH-I747
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786563
I couldnt find list of bugs for CM10, speciifcally for stable or Milestones.
If there is a link to what I'm asking for above that will be great. If not, i'll continue reading through the threads.
I'm looking at CM10 and I've been reading lots of issues even at stable......sometimes it makes me think
1) Why do people flash custom roms?
2) is it worth getting a new menu but in exchange your camera, bt, or whatever might not work. Or worse yet, something that you need but only discover that it doesnt work when you use it on the spot?
understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?
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understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?
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running Paranoid Android.
It's fairly stable, I haven't ran into too many problems yet.
I did notice it was a bit laggier than my stock ICS after my ICS was supercharged with V6.
its also a bit laggier on games.
It delivers a few customizations i like, like calls only log, custom boot animation, customizable quick launch, face unlock that is fickle.....but i just cant see as of right now why I would change? I lose the ability to make folders on trebuchet (yes....i know Nova Prime), I lose hand swipe screen capture, i lose smart stay (yes there are apps for it). I almost wnat to say battery is a bit worse than stock, during idle its about the same.
You also lose s planner which i found a replacement apps. It just seems like a lot of work restoring sms, tibu, changing all settings to your liking, reinstalling launcher and load settings, loading contact information etc etc for the ability to add toggles, sliding background......
I'm cool for the aesthetics, but i wonder is there any practical improvements, as in performance, speed, signal, battery life.... i think i would enjoy that rom better..........would going to AOKP be the one for me?
I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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Yea i figured i'd jump to AOKP next since PA has CM10 integrated within it already.
I've also tried Ariel (ICS rom), not only did it lack customizability, it wasnt stable. it felt like a less stable version of stock..... i was highly disappointed in my first custom rom. Its not that i like TW necessarily, but the way that everything is set up, its pretty smooth for me and the battery is good too.
I want to try out AOKP or PK before making a decision though.
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
Kustaa said:
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
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I agree with the problems you mentioned and i do want speed, stability and smoothness.
I noticed those things when i first upgraded to KK.
To overcome those challenges, i tried all the roms (CM Remix, Cm11, PA, Omni, Omni FML, geyers, AOKP, etc..) with stock kernels and then with DIRTY V and Fancy.
More ram is available with dirty v, fancy and stock PA kernel.
Afterall, i choose my personal set up which is smooth and stable for my device. i am satisfied with it now.
With Android you always have a choice of tweaking, upgrading or downgrading from JB > KK. so choose whats best for you :good:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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try the paranoid 3.99 based on 4.3
I remember it was really smooth
Kustaa said:
As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
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I agree with you on everything you said. I think I even went back to CM 10.X (not sure the exact one), but it was much better than anything I had before. I am on PA 4.44 and my data loses connection often and not sure why. The version of CM though, I would put it on airplane mode and my battery would still be drained the next day when other versions I didn't have that issue. That's one reason I went to another ROM, but it appears I am just going through ROMS like crazy trying to find the one I like most. To me...battery life is the most important.
decisions.
when i stopped using google framework with all those apps you dont have to use...
i found my battery lasting much longer
setting my kernel to lazy...while turning up voltage and over hertz. gives it enough speed...with enough "crash"
to stay up for 3 to 4 days, just sitting there
and 1 to 2 while in normal use.
and using up my data....well no one is going to get much up time like that