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Hello guys !
Im a newbie and i have a question. Which is more secure and stable ? A Custom Rom or Stock Rom ?
Which do you use an recommend, Stock or Custom Rom ? Its not a question about which Custom Rom ;-)
If there is already a similar Thread, i apologize...
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Hello guys !
Im a newbie and i have a question. Which is more secure and stable ? A Custom Rom or Stock Rom ?
Which do you use an recommend, Stock or Custom Rom ? Its not a question about which Custom Rom ;-)
If there is already a similar Thread, i apologize...
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The stock rom is probably what you want to stay on for stability. if you want really cool customization and tweaks go with a custom rom, but remember if you are on a custom rom you cant take OTA updates from google.
I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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You have to remember that the majority of people probably dont want a phone which they can customise in any which way that they want. Google need to cater for the masses and create an OS that is at least relatively simple.
Individuals on forums such as these however, feel differently and love the chance for customization. The developers working on after market ROMS create those options and customizations for people that really want them. And their ROMS are based on the source code provided by Google and their many employees - so nothing is lost in that sense.
This is what I think any way!
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Are they all "better"? No. Do they offer more features/customization? Yes. Do these features/customization often break something that already works? Yes.
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Sometimes it's only one "dev" kanging code.
Regardless, we have some VERY talented devs here. And it's not like they are creating android from scratch, they are using the code that Google has open sourced, so all of the custom roms are essentially STOCK + unique features not part of AOSP. This also makes them not as stable as stock android, pick your poison
That was a good answer !
Thats where is my point, di
oes it really make sense...all time Full-Wipe...backup..flash gapps...then something doesnt work..
but on the other side it looks awesome ! Its just, what do they really change ? Is it stil safe for me as user ?
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I think custom roms can often be more stable because bugs are constantly found and fixed on a daily basis. A stock rom may have a bug but will take months for the next update from google.
Also custom roms are just stock roms with additions, so its the same code base anyway.
its mostly about the tweaks that Google didn't put in .. all roms are the same to me since they all base off 4.0.x unless someone builds a sense or Touchwiz rom.
The only thing that makes roms different is the feature list and kernel
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That was a good answer !
Thats where is my point, di
oes it really make sense...all time Full-Wipe...backup..flash gapps...then something doesnt work..
but on the other side it looks awesome ! Its just, what do they really change ? Is it stil safe for me as user ?
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It's all very easy once you do it a few times. Customization is awesome. Like the full screen mod getting rid of the softkeys so anything that your doing (game, videos, etc) that keeps the softkeys there, will now be full screen without the softkeys. Just little things like that plus much more than make custom roms better than stock.
RogerPodacter said:
I think custom roms can often be more stable because bugs are constantly found and fixed on a daily basis. A stock rom may have a bug but will take months for the next update from google.
Also custom roms are just stock roms with additions, so its the same code base anyway.
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Bugs are constantly found for custom ROMs because they've not been tested so much compared to stock before they are being released. (Not saying that stock is bug free but each official version has gone through aggressive testing)
If stability and security are your top concerns then stay stock - this is a no-brainer. Custom ROMs are for people who are more adventurous and want to have more fun with their phones.
So there are more people on Stock or on Custom Roms ? I heard that many people say its a "developer phone", but on the other Hand people say they bought it because they dont want to flash anymore C-Roms.
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Many people want different things, that's why there are custom roms
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So there are more people on Stock or on Custom Roms ? I heard that many people say its a "developer phone", but on the other Hand people say they bought it because they dont want to flash anymore C-Roms.
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Of course there are way more people on stock than rom flashers. People like my mom got the phone to use it, not to flash ROMs.
When people said 'it's a developer phone', it doesn't mean the phone is not suitable for daily use or only developers know how to use it. On the contrary, it's a phone that showcases how the latest OS SHOULD look and feel like. It serves as a reference point to how developers should design their apps.
Good answer !
I read a lot of problems like massive battery drain or FCs etc. etc. also I read about speed improvements and great battery life. I can change already a lot of things with a different Launcher.
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Good answer !
I read a lot of problems like massive battery drain or FCs etc. etc. also I read about speed improvements and great battery life. I can change already a lot of things with a different Launcher.
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The thing with all product discussion forums is, people will only post/seeking help if they ran into problems. (Will you go to a Samsung forum and start a thread with 'my TV/camera is working as intended?' ) So these forums are always filled with error reports/complaints. Sometimes it's hard to see if it's really error by design or just the unlucky few with defective devices.
XDA makes it even more complicated because this is a modding community. Half of the complaints are probably just human errors - bad flash, wrong radio, incompatible apps the list goes on...
Long answer short, you DON'T have to mod your phone to reap all its benefits. You are not missing out things if you don't want to customize it.
I completly agree, thats why I also started this thread. I was talking with some people about it. Its nice to customize, but do i need these small things with the possibility to get issues
Are you on Stock ?
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Brother man its all about what you want and love. I could nit would not run stock. I have way more fun with custom roms. But to each there own. I must say, I would never have my mother run a custom from. First I would be her tech support, next its not what she needs. But you keep having fun with what you need / do.
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Bugs are constantly found for custom ROMs because they've not been tested so much compared to stock before they are being released. (Not saying that stock is bug free but each official version has gone through aggressive testing)
If stability and security are your top concerns then stay stock - this is a no-brainer. Custom ROMs are for people who are more adventurous and want to have more fun with their phones.
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I was actually talking about bugs in stock. Its much quicker to fix them in custom roms since the fix will be rolled out in a few days, but we'd be waiting months to get the same fix from google in an update.
Sure new bugs from custom roms may appear too from the new additions. But its still all the stock code base anyway...
ROMs are usually the result of tweaking, prodding, removal to enhance the phone's ability to function. Some things aren't necessary, and some things can be made to cater to a specific user. Obviously, google cannot cater to individual needs, but that's why so many ROMs exist, you can found out what you like and stick to it!
That's why I switched to android from my iPhone 4s. I love messing with my phone, and android is the platform that encourages this
Just for fun.
Do you have a custom or stock ROM on your Galaxy Nexus?
Custom .switching between euroskanks cm9 and aokp the whole time
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Running AOKP M5, gives more option of customizing.
Stock ROM is fine too, if you don't need to customize.
Custom ofcourse. Now liquid linaro 1.5rc2, tomorrow maybe something else.
Custom of course.
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Custom!!!
Stock is good. But once you try the custom ROM... you don't want ever go back to stock. Really. You will miss so many handy stuff in stock ROM which is pretty standard in all custom ROMs. For instance:
- Long press back button kills the app.
- Or toggles in notification area
etc.
Currently:
Slim ICS ROM.
CM9 is OK. But it's not Slim ICS
AOKP is very similar to Slim (almost the same). But not as stable and slim as Slim ICS
So.. Slim ICS is the only option for me. All the other ROMs.. well.. good luck with all the other
Idk even why Google make stock so slow and I hated the gradient effect. Google should hire these custom rom devs. They really have skills and talents. After using custom I can't go to that slow, laggy stock rom....
Loving the rascream + trinity 65 stable and cid boot animation
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It's funny that all the comments so far say custom roms, yet the poll result says otherwise. My guess is that people using stock rom have absolutely no problem with it and feel no need to "brag" about how good/stable their rom is
Edit: Yes, I voted stock rom.
Im always rooted and ROMed within the hour of getting my phone. So custom.
custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Right now running custom (CM9) but would have no issue's with just using Stock rooted. Google does a good job putting out stable code that works well. I just like having a couple extra features that CM9 adds.
A kernel is a must though, although stock ROM is good the kernel they push out is obviously not very well optimized.
My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.
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My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.
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This has been my school of thought with the Galaxy Nexus, as well. I did unlock the bootloader straight away, just in case I wanted to try custom ROMs and go back to stock. I haven't had that itch yet though.
I'm not in anyway knocking custom ROMs (I've happily used them on every previous device), I do feel though they are the "scenic route" for this particular phone.
Ran stock + root for the first few months until curiosity got the better of me and I installed CM9 a few days ago. Mostly all good so far apart from a problem with Google Music stuttering occasionally (accompanied by a nice screeching sound ) for no apparent reason.
Thinking of trying Slim ICS next, or I might stick with CM9 depending on how much the stuttering problem annoys me.
I use the stock ROM. I personally don't use many of the customization in other ROMs. And for aesthetics, I don't need UI customizations -- I don't really care how the UI looks. (I was fine with Froyo's UI )
Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.
Stock ROMs are slow and sometimes unresponsive. That is inevitable even for the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs are far more tweaked and optimized. Custom ROMs, though, are not necessarily better, since what's best is user-defined. We all have our needs and as long as we're satisfied with what we have, we do just fine.
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Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
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Quick boot? That sounds like an app that only reboots/reloads the system and not the kernel, correct? (i.e. full boot) What market enabler app works perfectly for ICS?
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As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.
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Besides, on a phone like the Galaxy Nexus, relocking it is dead easy.
I use BAMF paradigm. Its awesome. No other rom is as stable. Also love the quick settings.
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Using Black Ice... started with LiquidSmooth and really liked it (love having profiles so that I can set a "Night" mode in which only my phone will ring and everything else is customized to either just vibrate or just notify by the LED). I then went to AOKP and tried Gummy briefly but neither had profiles. Found Black Ice which is a modified AOKP and havent looked back since. Aside from the nice White on Black scheme it has profiles and has the option for the weather in the notification page.
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custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Was running it on my razor. How is the performance compared to cm9, aokp, gummy?
I can't live without my AOKP!
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My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.
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My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.
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well i would say the custom TouchWiz roms for your sprint one i don't know about the AT&T one though........
Anyone else?
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Use the at&t and sprint s3 android development forums.
Check the titles for TW VS aosp, os version, blah, blah.
Read the Ops for specifics.
I also look for roms with a lot of chatter in the thread, and roms that appear to be regularly updated.
The problem with ur question is that if u get 20 answers you'll get 17 different roms...
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Use the at&t and sprint s3 android development forums.
Check the titles for TW VS aosp, os version, blah, blah.
Read the Ops for specifics.
I also look for roms with a lot of chatter in the thread, and roms that appear to be regularly updated.
The problem with ur question is that if u get 20 answers you'll get 17 different roms...
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Thanks. I have been doing something like that. With respect to my Sprint (L710) variant I have installed and tested these four:
SlimKat (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400593)
modified Stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741413)
CM11 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030660)
Gummy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563973)
Do they represent a good cross section of available ROMs or am I missing a bunch of good ones? In particular, I disqualified the second option since several apps couldn't write to extsdcard even though I have installed and executed SDFix. SDFix is not required for the first option and it does everything I want. I also tried CM11, but it seems to have more bloatware than SlimKat and no obvious advantages. Gummy kept giving me FC's on various gapps apps. In summary SlimKat has floated to the top. My only complaint is that I had to tweak the dpi, but the texdroider app fixed that. What are some good options that I'm overlooking?
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Thanks. I have been doing something like that. With respect to my Sprint (L710) variant I have installed and tested these four:
SlimKat (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400593)
modified Stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741413)
CM11 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030660)
Gummy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563973)
Do they represent a good cross section of available ROMs or am I missing a bunch of good ones? In particular, I disqualified the second option since several apps couldn't write to extsdcard even though I have installed and executed SDFix. SDFix is not required for the first option and it does everything I want. I also tried CM11, but it seems to have more bloatware than SlimKat and no obvious advantages. Gummy kept giving me FC's on various gapps apps. In summary SlimKat has floated to the top. My only complaint is that I had to tweak the dpi, but the texdroider app fixed that. What are some good options that I'm overlooking?
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on the TW side there is Wicked X 8.0/Barebones and Tribute rom and AOSP you can try CarbonRom or some of the newer roms like Broken OS, GrapheneROM a optimized CarbonRom, Spirit Rom, TMS3-Dark_Droid-3
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on the TW side there is Wicked X 8.0/Barebones and Tribute rom and AOSP you can try CarbonRom or some of the newer roms like Broken OS, GrapheneROM a optimized CarbonRom, Spirit Rom, TMS3-Dark_Droid-3
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Thanks. I'll check those out. I forgot to mention, but another criteria is that any candidate ROM must be available on both the Sprint and AT&T variant of the Galaxy S3. I've eliminated quite a few on that basis.
Update: Based on a bit of Googling it appears as follows:
Wicked X -> Sprint only
Tribute ROM -> Sprint only
Carbon ROM -> both Sprint and AT&T
Based on that I'll investigate Carbon ROM and if it seems appropriate, give it a try. I just checked out Carbon ROM for Sprint. It appears the forum petered out back in February and the download links are broken. Think I'll pass on that one. Also, I hesitate to try the newer ones you mentioned since my most important criteria is stability (ie, bug free). Thanks again.
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Based on that I'll investigate Carbon ROM and if it seems appropriate, give it a try. I just checked out Carbon ROM for Sprint. It appears the forum petered out back in February and the download links are broken. Think I'll pass on that one. Also, I hesitate to try the newer ones you mentioned since my most important criteria is stability (ie, bug free). Thanks again.
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Keep in mind there are quite a few ROMs (including Carbon) for our device, that are very active on Google+ and not here.
I would say broken os rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-sprint/development/4-4-4-brokenos-t2890496
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Keep in mind there are quite a few ROMs (including Carbon) for our device, that are very active on Google+ and not here.
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Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
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I would say broken os rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-sprint/development/4-4-4-brokenos-t2890496
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Thanks. I'm trying BrokenOS. So far it seems fine, but I haven't noticed many differences from SlimKat. Can you offer any pros or cons that would help me decide?
I do see that it offers both the Nova and Google Now launchers. Nova has an extensive settings page which includes a handy backup and restore feature. I can't find anything similar with Google Now? I can't even change the grid (icons per row and column). Am I missing something?
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Thanks. I'm trying BrokenOS. So far it seems fine, but I haven't noticed many differences from SlimKat. Can you offer any pros or cons that would help me decide?
I do see that it offers both the Nova and Google Now launchers. Nova has an extensive settings page which includes a handy backup and restore feature. I can't find anything similar with Google Now? I can't even change the grid (icons per row and column). Am I missing something?
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I'm pretty sure the base of the rom is based off of slim not sure though. Well broken os is very smooth and fast never had any force closes battery life is great on it.
For the Google launcher it doesn't have anything really you can customize. So no you aren't missing anything there. I would say to use nova.
CarbonRom is back up here is the link for the D2LTE which will work for both your S3's and here is the Change Log if you want to check it out.....
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I'm pretty sure the base of the rom is based off of slim not sure though. Well broken os is very smooth and fast never had any force closes battery life is great on it.
For the Google launcher it doesn't have anything really you can customize. So no you aren't missing anything there. I would say to use nova.
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Thanks. That helps.
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CarbonRom is back up here is the link for the D2LTE which will work for both your S3's and here is the Change Log if you want to check it out.....
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Thanks. I see your link if for Nightlies. As mentioned, my first criteria is stability so I'm probably not interested in them. Is there an operational site with a stable version?
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Thanks. I see your link if for Nightlies. As mentioned, my first criteria is stability so I'm probably not interested in them. Is there an operational site with a stable version?
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That's the official site.....the reason they are nightlies is because the developers add and remove features all the time it's in the channel log..but the basic functions of the phone always work.....so they are stable nightlies....
Thanks for all the feedback. I've tentatively selected SlimKat. It's the slimmest of all tested and seems fully functional. BrokenOS seemed nice as well, but it was slightly less slim, much less active development, and didn't offer any noticeable advantages. I'd still be interested in recommendations. As mentioned, a candidate must be available for both the Sprint and AT&T variant.
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That's the official site.....the reason they are nightlies is because the developers add and remove features all the time it's in the channel log..but the basic functions of the phone always work.....so they are stable nightlies....
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Thanks. I had some time this morning, so I installed the latest Carbon ROM nightly. Here are my comments so far based upon limited testing:
Closer to stock than SlimKat (eg, dpi, icon size, etc)
Google Now toolbar top of all home screens
Calendar not included in ROM nor gapps (so installed Google Calendar from Play Store)
Titanium Backup Pro complained about installed SuperSU (so flashed Update-SuperSU by Chainfire)
SuperSU app tends to hang (temporarily clear via reboot)
Several icons appear on Lock Screen (they seem to taken from notification screen)
Fully functional so far (with exception of SuperSU)
Less slim than SlimKat (Nandroid 951MB vs 783MB)
flroots said:
My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.
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You see...that is the problem...BEST can only ever be opinion...they are all the BEST for the people using them if you check the individual development threads.
Battery performance will vary from user to user....ROMs have little to no effect on battery performance...it is how you set up the kernel and your usage/preferences/signal and such that affect it..not the ROM.
You can only learn about stability by reading the development thread. There may be an app or dirty flash or lemon phone that makes something unstable for one person and not for the other 1000's of users of that ROM..and maybe that one guy comments here and not the other 1000.
Again performance is kernel related and the settings in the kernel....learn how to ajust your kernel settings mostly through trial and error.
Active development...you just need to check the first page of the development section...the ones on the top page with most replies are the most active.
So that leaves compact in size...search through them for the words debloated and look at the download size.
The rest will be mostly opinion and things you will need to learn by trial and error.
Googling for best ROMs will turn up garbage as again there is no baseline...did everyone start with a clean flash? Was the download good? Is there decision for BEST based on ludicrous items like color? Included launcher? You may as well be asking what's the best curtains to use in my living room? You will get everything from price, to color, to thermal blocking, to texture, to cleanability.....all relative to the person using them.
Hope this helps and explains why you will never find a useful best rom thread and kudos for actually listing some criteria.
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You see...that is the problem...BEST can only ever be opinion...they are all the BEST for the people using them if you check the individual development threads.
Battery performance will vary from user to user....ROMs have little to no effect on battery performance...it is how you set up the kernel and your usage/preferences/signal and such that affect it..not the ROM.
You can only learn about stability by reading the development thread. There may be an app or dirty flash or lemon phone that makes something unstable for one person and not for the other 1000's of users of that ROM..and maybe that one guy comments here and not the other 1000.
Again performance is kernel related and the settings in the kernel....learn how to ajust your kernel settings mostly through trial and error.
Active development...you just need to check the first page of the development section...the ones on the top page with most replies are the most active.
So that leaves compact in size...search through them for the words debloated and look at the download size.
The rest will be mostly opinion and things you will need to learn by trial and error.
Googling for best ROMs will turn up garbage as again there is no baseline...did everyone start with a clean flash? Was the download good? Is there decision for BEST based on ludicrous items like color? Included launcher? You may as well be asking what's the best curtains to use in my living room? You will get everything from price, to color, to thermal blocking, to texture, to cleanability.....all relative to the person using them.
Hope this helps and explains why you will never find a useful best rom thread and kudos for actually listing some criteria.
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Thanks. I understand what you are saying, however, I have found the comments to be useful especially in terms of narrowing down the number of candidates to evaluate. In the final analysis, I must do my own research. At the moment, my personal favorite is SlimKat and I use it as a baseline for comparing others.
I just bought a oneplus 3 (offerup $200 use). Havent been in the rooting scene for a while thanx to the gs7 edge. Now that i do have a device that can be root and bootloader unlock i know there're great support.
The thing is, this device seems the snappier device i ever own. Little to non bloware and really fast. Cant imaging been faster. There any reason to root this device. If u did. Why and what rom r u using?
eduardmc said:
I just bought a oneplus 3 (offerup $200 use). Havent been in the rooting scene for a while thanx to the gs7 edge. Now that i do have a device that can be root and bootloader unlock i know there're great support.
The thing is, this device seems the snappier device i ever own. Little to non bloware and really fast. Cant imaging been faster. There any reason to root this device. If u did. Why and what rom r u using?
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i am using the freedom os because of its preinstaled apps like xposed, viper4android, a theme engine. basicaly stuff that i could not get working on OOS. and there is supose to be better battery life i havent seen that (maybe because of my extreme usage). i get 4hrs SOT
eduardmc said:
I just bought a oneplus 3 (offerup $200 use). Havent been in the rooting scene for a while thanx to the gs7 edge. Now that i do have a device that can be root and bootloader unlock i know there're great support.
The thing is, this device seems the snappier device i ever own. Little to non bloware and really fast. Cant imaging been faster. There any reason to root this device. If u did. Why and what rom r u using?
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The OP3 is the first phone that I didn't root to achieve extra performance, but to improve Android. After using a rooted phone for the last 2 years I can't live without AdAway and a combination of Greenify/Disable Wakelock/Xposed/Amplify to control what my phone is doing, not to mention really useful things like Tasker, customizing the Alert Slider and many many more. Nowadays, flagship phones aren't rooted for performance.
That being said, I am disappointed by the responsiveness of the OP3. On OOS 3.2.7 it is LESS responsive than my 2year old OnePlus One running CM14.1 nightly. Disappointing, but getting my hopes up for when the CM14.1 nightlies for the OP3 get good. Which is the biggest plus point in my opinion - software updates. If you have root, you can have the newest version of Android anyday, not having to wait for OnePlus to update it (which they take way too much time for).
All in all, if you know what you are doing, root your phone. It is worth it.
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The OP3 is the first phone that I didn't root to achieve extra performance, but to improve Android. After using a rooted phone for the last 2 years I can't live without AdAway and a combination of Greenify/Disable Wakelock/Xposed/Amplify to control what my phone is doing, not to mention really useful things like Tasker, customizing the Alert Slider and many many more. Nowadays, flagship phones aren't rooted for performance.
That being said, I am disappointed by the responsiveness of the OP3. On OOS 3.2.7 it is LESS responsive than my 2year old OnePlus One running CM14.1 nightly. Disappointing, but getting my hopes up for when the CM14.1 nightlies for the OP3 get good. Which is the biggest plus point in my opinion - software updates. If you have root, you can have the newest version of Android anyday, not having to wait for OnePlus to update it (which they take way too much time for).
All in all, if you know what you are doing, root your phone. It is worth it.
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U got me pretty much convince to root mine. The only other stock android experience for me has been nexus 6p and this phone stock is much faster and fluid. Im concern about instability of using a rom like CM or other rom that has so many tweak to improve it but mess uo other things. Have u try cm14.1. Or how about CM.13 how solid is that right now?
I'm not rooted....running community build stock...3.5.5 is stable, great performance...get 5hr SOT with 15% left...over 24 hrs... phone is a great performer...
I root all of my Android devices, tablets and phone, primary for customizations and backup. I like having a full nandroid backup incase something ever goes wrong. This way I am assured that I can recover to a previous working state. I know you can often find factory image out there for just about any phone, but I will also backup at a point in time once I have everything exactly as I like. Again, this allows me to roll back to exactly how things were before I started tinkering. Running Xposed and theming, is another big reason to root. However fiddling with these can sometimes go bad so having a nandroid backup is handy.
For me, I am still running stock on 3.2.7. I find it extremely fast and stable. Been looking at the other roms, but have not found a need to switch from stock yet. I am getting 4 - 5 hrs SOT consistently, stock so again, have not found compelling need to switch roms, but am playing with different Xposed modules so that alone is reason to root.
Oh yes for sure... Adaway alone makes it worthwhile
Also check out Android explained on YouTube.. Very well explained, instead of just following some tutorial and not really understanding... Android explained breaks everything down so now I have an understanding of how my device operates.
There's a lot of great stuff you can do with root. For me the best features are: much better battery life, GUI customization, and OGYoutube (basically YT Red for free, and yes, there's a nonroot version but the root is better).
Root....
IT bus corp guy and like others said AdAway, Youtube ad blocker, TB to backup apps and be able to save app come back previous version when dev mess it it....all just a must have for me.
I am on Resurrection Rom not OOS so still have that Android Nexus experience since I came from 6P and not slow with any responses...quick, stable
Install xposed and enjoy Google assistant, N-ify, YouTube background player etc.
Personally i'm not rooted, for the first time in years, someone earlier mentioned nandroid backups they require TWRP but not root.
My concern with rooting is the updates. I hate setting up the phone after clean install since we dont have anything like icloud. I know ubcan dirty flash the updates but there so much there up to a point that u would have to clean install and update. Like going from MM to nougat. Quote if im wrong but i havent been in the rooting scene for a while. I remember titanium backup use to break alot of things when i did a restore
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My concern with rooting is the updates. I hate setting up the phone after clean install since we dont have anything like icloud. I know ubcan dirty flash the updates but there so much there up to a point that u would have to clean install and update. Like going from MM to nougat. Quote if im wrong but i havent been in the rooting scene for a while. I remember titanium backup use to break alot of things when i did a restore
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I have used Titanium Backup once, didn't work at all, I was really disappointed. Although this was years ago, I never tried it again and don't want to. Anyway - when switching ROMs, I always make sure that Whatsapp syncs everything with the cloud, all accounts in the 'accounts' setting menu of the system have synced, that my Google Photos are synced and then copy pretty much everything from /root/sdcard (your internal memory) to my computer. Then I completely wipe my phone (= wipe system+data+cache+internal storage), install the new ROM, boot it once to see howwell its working, power it down, factory reset it (wiping data) and then copy all of the data of my computer back to the phone, set everything up with my google account and let google download everything. If you have correctly configured the app-backup function of Google, then everything will be about 95% the same, and nothing will be missing. Be sure not to forget to make a TWRP backup of EVERYTHING before full-wiping the phone, so you can always go back if you really need to.
I prefer this method to anything else because you will never any problems with restoring from the cloud or performance issues of certain file-structures being different or whatever. It is clean and works.
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U got me pretty much convince to root mine. The only other stock android experience for me has been nexus 6p and this phone stock is much faster and fluid. Im concern about instability of using a rom like CM or other rom that has so many tweak to improve it but mess uo other things. Have u try cm14.1. Or how about CM.13 how solid is that right now?
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I have not tried CM13, and I will ait until sultanxda brings his goodness to CM14.1, then I will switch but - as I have used sultanxda's ROMs on my OnePlus One I can definately recommend t Install his version of CM13 on the OnePlus 3 instead of the nightlies, his optimisations und his update frequency are fantastic and he is a great ROM maker. His ROMs on the OnePlus One made me rediscover the full potential of the device, it's truly amazing.
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I have used Titanium Backup once, didn't work at all, I was really disappointed. Although this was years ago, I never tried it again and don't want to. Anyway - when switching ROMs, I always make sure that Whatsapp syncs everything with the cloud, all accounts in the 'accounts' setting menu of the system have synced, that my Google Photos are synced and then copy pretty much everything from /root/sdcard (your internal memory) to my computer. Then I completely wipe my phone (= wipe system+data+cache+internal storage), install the new ROM, boot it once to see howwell its working, power it down, factory reset it (wiping data) and then copy all of the data of my computer back to the phone, set everything up with my google account and let google download everything. If you have correctly configured the app-backup function of Google, then everything will be about 95% the same, and nothing will be missing. Be sure not to forget to make a TWRP backup of EVERYTHING before full-wiping the phone, so you can always go back if you really need to.
I prefer this method to anything else because you will never any problems with restoring from the cloud or performance issues of certain file-structures being different or whatever. It is clean and works.
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I have not tried CM13, and I will ait until sultanxda brings his goodness to CM14.1, then I will switch but - as I have used sultanxda's ROMs on my OnePlus One I can definately recommend t Install his version of CM13 on the OnePlus 3 instead of the nightlies, his optimisations und his update frequency are fantastic and he is a great ROM maker. His ROMs on the OnePlus One made me rediscover the full potential of the device, it's truly amazing.
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Last question. Any bugs that needs to be fix from the CM 13 rom
Not for me. I am no longer OCD about my phone.. don't care what color the signal strength font is, etc... The phone works so well stock, that there isn't much I would change other than adding some functionality with the camera and some good video editing software...
I played with a few ROMs, they were ok, but once the newness wore off(2 days) I went back to stock, and am now running the Community builds and like them the best.
Fast, stable, great battery life... no complaints...
I see that there are few custom roms on here like: RR and LineageOS, so my question is are these custom roms better then stock miui, if so what are their advantages?
>hows the battery life
>gaming performance (do games like pubg lag less?)
>overall look (i would like to have something thats completaly completely dark themed, that goes for settings as well)
Can someone tell me a little bit more about custom roms? Maybe something not many people know, im kinda new to this... and i still have to unlock my mi mix 2, waiting for 72 hours to pass, so i can unlock (and yes im aware i will lose all my data when i do it, i have my backups ready
oh also btw i got the phone like 2 days ago, so anything might be helpful
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I see that there are few custom roms on here like: RR and LineageOS, so my question is are these custom roms better then stock miui, if so what are their advantages?
>hows the battery life
>gaming performance (do games like pubg lag less?)
>overall look (i would like to have something thats completaly completely dark themed, that goes for settings as well)
Can someone tell me a little bit more about custom roms? Maybe something not many people know, im kinda new to this... and i still have to unlock my mi mix 2, waiting for 72 hours to pass, so i can unlock (and yes im aware i will lose all my data when i do it, i have my backups ready
oh also btw i got the phone like 2 days ago, so anything might be helpful
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I'm not a modder and can't speak to how good one rom is over another. But most of what I've read says miui is still the best overall in terms of stability, bugs and battery life. The custom roms always seem to have one problem or another, a sensor doesn't work, a basic function is disabled etc. I'm not knocking custom roms but I've never found a compelling reason to change from miui.
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I'm not a modder and can't speak to how good one rom is over another. But most of what I've read says miui is still the best overall in terms of stability, bugs and battery life. The custom roms always seem to have one problem or another, a sensor doesn't work, a basic function is disabled etc. I'm not knocking custom roms but I've never found a compelling reason to change from miui.
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Can i remove the bloatware from MIUI and still get the updates? Cuz i heard somewhere that if you remove some pre installed sh*t miui wont update.
I actually dislike miui, it feels like they're stuck in 2010 or something, a lot of missing features that every other mid range phone has :/
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Can i remove the bloatware from MIUI and still get the updates? Cuz i heard somewhere that if you remove some pre installed sh*t miui wont update.
I actually dislike miui, it feels like they're stuck in 2010 or something, a lot of missing features that every other mid range phone has :/
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Most things can be removed or frozen without any ill effects. If you're not sure just freeze/disable them.
If there's one thing that miui is known for it's multiple features and customizations so I have no clue where you're going with that one. It IS fugly and the first thing I do is change the awful launcher.
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Most things can be removed or frozen without any ill effects. If you're not sure just freeze/disable them.
If there's one thing that miui is known for it's multiple features and customizations so I have no clue where you're going with that one. It IS fugly and the first thing I do is change the awful launcher.
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aight thanks, i will check for some lunchers now