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Speaker on phone, really that bad?

I know the Nexus was released today,and instead of asking questions, I should be out getting it, but I feel that I need to ask this question before I go ahead and get it.
The speaker for the speaker phone and audio playback.....is it really as bad as reviewers say? I only ask because I use the speaker on my phone about 2-3 hours per day listening to podcasts, music and such. As silly as it sounds, it is really high on the make or brake list of the phone.
Also, in this same realm, did the update that is being pushed out doing anything for it? I am just curious if it is actual hardware or just software. I know, with my Touchpad, when running WebOS, sound comes out of the speakers perfectly, but when I boot up the CyanogenMod based XRON ROM on it, it is rather awful and pretty much unusable. So, its obviously a software thing, not a hardware thing.
I don't mind waiting a bit to see if more users have more opinions on it, and worst case scenario, if need be, I wouldn't mind waiting until the Razr gets ICS, or at least the CyanogenMod version of it..
Thanks

I haven't had any issues with audio playback. I'm not entirely sure what issues your referring to either so perhaps you could clarify.
Overall I'm very happy with my purchase and would highly recommend it. (coming from a HTC Desire)

There were several places I read it.
This was from this morning (http://tinyurl.com/cv932ov):
Galaxy Nexus speaker blows: The speaker on the Galaxy Nexus is basically useless and one of the worst speakers I have ever used on a phone. It is nearly impossible to use it as a speakerphone and forget about listening to music and podcasts without a headset or external speaker. Some have suggested it might be a software issue and I can only hope so since I can’t even use it with such low volume. The speakers on the iPhone 4S are much better and I have no complaints at all.
I remember both The Cell Phone Junkie and also someone on Android Central mentioning it as well, but with the 2 minutes of searching, I couldn't find it easily on their sites. Its seems people have complained about them being "tinny" and not great at high volumes..
From what it sounds, you have no problems with it at all?

its really not that bad but it improves drastically with the free volume + app
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After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion

I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
Or, with a bad speaker, I guess that is a way to convince the wife to let me put wifi/bluetooth speakers throughout my house.

MikeDaub said:
I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
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Great idea! Best way to make a decision.

RTContent said:
After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion
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Ohh, I agree 100% that the article was written by an Iphone user, designed to draw people from Android to IOS. But, like I mentioned, I have heard it before and figured it was easy enough to ask in the forums about it.
I think most of the reviews have come from the GSM version, to there might be a software upgrade that might have helped it..

RTContent said:
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Yea but..... That's another 6 envious hours of sitting at my desk reading about people getting it.. I want it now..

Another Vote for Volume+

Its not bad. Its just not very loud. Shoulda called it quiet speaker.
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I never thought my Incredible's speaker was really loud, but it always worked good enough for what I needed. Maybe I just need a Jawbone or some sort of Bluetooth speaker... That would solve all the issues if I couldn't stand using the one on the phone..

speaker is fine, used it all day so far... I'm fairly critical about speakerphones and music, and it sounds fine... no samsung phone has a "great" speaker, but this one is tolerable

Who actually will still keep their LG G3?

I see a lot of people complaining about the G3 when it comes to the difficulty unlocking the boot loader, and the stutters it has. A lot saying their getting the next android flagship.
Who will actually keep their device and like it for a long period? Cause I feel like I am the only one who loves the G3! I use my nexus 7 for my ROM addiction. Although will be great if the G3 bootloader gets unlocked!

you can add a poll
it will be very reflective
im keeping mine irrespective of the bootloader issue

I love my G3, and will keep it, but love also to unlock the bootloader
LG G3 D-855 V10h-EUR-XX
G3 TweaksBox 1.2RC

rraaka said:
you can add a poll
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im keeping mine irrespective of the bootloader issue
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Think ill just do that soon (Y)

Keeping mine, no other phone is close. G3 tweaks provides enough for me

I personally will not keep the G3 for a long peroid of time as I tend to move on to the next android flagship when it is released, but this year I do plan to get the next iPhone for the first time in years

T3hBraveBoss said:
I personally will not keep the G3 for a long peroid of time as I tend to move on to the next android flagship when it is released, but this year I do plan to get the next iPhone for the first time in years
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I have been tempted by iphone a few times. Then i remember the software limitations and how vain apple is as a company

AndroidInsanity said:
I have been tempted by iphone a few times. Then i remember the software limitations and how vain apple is as a company
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I think iOS 8 will be a very different expierence with alot of new additions like the mac os x and ios intagration (making/picking up calls on your mac) and 3rd party keyboards coming

T3hBraveBoss said:
I think iOS 8 will be a very different expierence with alot of new additions like the mac os x and ios intagration (making/picking up calls on your mac) and 3rd party keyboards coming
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When they bring custom launchers, EASY rooting and more camera features, I may be very tempted. But until then, Android fanboy ftw lol

Poll is up! It has a character limit on so couldn't give as much options as I liked in the answer options.

I will.And i will see haw bootloader unlock from devs

My daughter will get mine. I will get the Nexus 6

Definitely keeping my g3. I love it
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No point me changing it at the moment. All the high end Android phones are pretty much the same.
Locked boot loader doesn't bother me as I don't want a AOSP ROM, want to keep the LG features.

Too many issues that should have been fixed before release like the auxiliary port cutting out while listening to music. I can't keep unplugging and re plugging the jack while driving. The screen also neds to be brighter in direct sun light.

loonie01 said:
Too many issues that should have been fixed before release like the auxiliary port cutting out while listening to music. I can't keep unplugging and re plugging the jack while driving.
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THIS.
The recent apps function is also extremely delayed, which pretty much negates the point of even having a recent apps button.

Keeping it and very happy. Stock, no issues.
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biglilsteve said:
THIS.
The recent apps function is also extremely delayed, which pretty much negates the point of even having a recent apps button.
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Recent apps is almost instantaneous for me.
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loonie01 said:
Too many issues that should have been fixed before release like the auxiliary port cutting out while listening to music. I can't keep unplugging and re plugging the jack while driving. The screen also neds to be brighter in direct sun light.
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Is this just a car input/output issue? When I wear headphones on bus for an hour never had any cut outs.

I'm extremely happy with mine. For some reason I don't experience the same issues as everyone else. I don't know if I got lucky our what but no lag here, no aux issue, excellent battery with no over heating.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the ZTE Axon 7, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the ZTE Axon 7 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I'm extremely pleased with this phone, especially for $400! Only issues I've had were software conflicts with Dolby Atmos. Once I figured that out, I'm completely happy!

tele_jas said:
I'm extremely pleased with this phone, especially for $400! Only issues I've had were software conflicts with Dolby Atmos. Once I figured that out, I'm completely happy!
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How do u get Atmos to work?
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2 Days with it and i'm pleased with this device ( coming from LG G4 H811 ) what will make me love even more and keep it till the SD823 or SD830 devices will be Unlock Bootloader + Root, having the ability to Change DPI per App with Xposed (miss Gravity Box and App Settings ) is a HUGE plus , but let hope for ZTE to release an OTA with unlock bootloader
robstunner said:
How do u get Atmos to work?
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you either Turn it on using the App in your Drawer or in your ZTE Music player

DrakenFX said:
2 Days with it and i'm pleased with this device ( coming from LG G4 H811 ) what will make me love even more and keep it till the SD823 or SD830 devices will be Unlock Bootloader + Root, having the ability to Change DPI per App with Xposed (miss Gravity Box and App Settings ) is a HUGE plus , but let hope for ZTE to release an OTA with unlock bootloader
you either Turn it on using the App in your Drawer or in your ZTE Music player
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The app is dead. I can't press anything in the app. It opens but that's it.
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robstunner said:
The app is dead. I can't press anything in the app. It opens but that's it.
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check Images, Step 2 just pick what you one and tap that option to setup everything else

DrakenFX said:
check Images, Step 2 just pick what you one and tap that option to setup everything else
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Tapping that power button does nothing for me :-/
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robstunner said:
Tapping that power button does nothing for me :-/
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try Wiping Data/Cache of the Dolby App and try again

Already ahead of you. Did that to both of the Dolby apks in apps.
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DrakenFX said:
2 Days with it and i'm pleased with this device ( coming from LG G4 H811 ) what will make me love even more and keep it till the SD823 or SD830 devices will be Unlock Bootloader + Root, having the ability to Change DPI per App with Xposed (miss Gravity Box and App Settings ) is a HUGE plus , but let hope for ZTE to release an OTA with unlock bootloader
Ah great someone who swapped from the G4. I got the one plus 3 but sold it within days as the screen was really weird almost blurry / fuzzy ish and the camera was so poor and frustrating. Back on my g4 now and really excited the axon popped up ! Could you let me know what you prefer about it against the g4 please especially camera and screen. Thanks.
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Being a die-hard Blackberry fan. Scheduled power on and off made this purchase worth while by itself.

seamarshall said:
Being a die-hard Blackberry fan. Scheduled power on and off made this purchase worth while by itself.
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I didn't see that before but i love this feature, i'm extremely please with this phone so far. Just looking at the phone at how beautiful it is and it's a pleasure just to hold it.

Using multiple devices a year I would say this is the first Chinese OEM outside of OnePlus that has produced a phone I would consider a good daily driver. The ROM is close to stock Android but not as close as OnePlus which for me is a bummer. I'd much rather see ZTE keep things simple as their hardware design language and features are a big step up from OnePlus for me. the dual SIM or MicroSD+SIM option along with good speakers are key selling points for me. All of the basics are here and it runs circles around my Nexus 6 performance wise for my day-to-day use which entails a LOT of email using Nine Folders Microsoft Exchange client.

The ONLY thing that bugs me about this phone is the buttons not being backlit and spaced out a little more..
Other than that, the phon is lightning fast, charges extremely quickly, (An hour and 10 minutes for a full charge), has a beautiful feel, and the speaker quality is out of this world

I thought long and hard about buying this phone. I watched just about every online review I could find and in the end I made the choice on the basis that I could return it within the first 30 days should I dislike it. I must say after 2 and a half days, I got nothing but love for this phone. There are a few things I dislike but they are all things I knew about from the various reviews so I already tailored my expectations prior to getting the device. If anyone is on the fence about this device, take the plunge and get it. It's well worth it.

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I thought long and hard about buying this phone. I watched just about every online review I could find and in the end I made the choice on the basis that I could return it within the first 30 days should I dislike it. I must say after 2 and a half days, I got nothing but love for this phone. There are a few things I dislike but they are all things I knew about from the various reviews so I already tailored my expectations prior to getting the device. If anyone is on the fence about this device, take the plunge and get it. It's well worth it.
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Agreed!

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Agreed!
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completely agree with this ... although i think it uses a nano sim i had to order a new one as i had a micro sim ?

Midnyte said:
completely agree with this ... although i think it uses a nano sim i had to order a new one as i had a micro sim ?
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Same.. But it seems that more phones are progressing towards nano. So it seems to be a good thing..

MrWilsonxD said:
Same.. But it seems that more phones are progressing towards nano. So it seems to be a good thing..
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yeah i agree with you @MrWilsonxD just wish i'd thought about it ... doh ... my bad that not the phone really, i also noticed a marked difference in volume level between headphones, the stock ones the axon comes with are very quiet, when i plugged in my Beats they were loads better, infact the Axon drives my beats better than any other device i have connected them to, just my opinion ofcourse but i love the phone

Midnyte said:
yeah i agree with you @MrWilsonxD just wish i'd thought about it ... doh ... my bad that not the phone really, i also noticed a marked difference in volume level between headphones, the stock ones the axon comes with are very quiet, when i plugged in my Beats they were loads better, infact the Axon drives my beats better than any other device i have connected them to, just my opinion ofcourse but i love the phone
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Same! In my car, when I connected the auxiliary to the phone my speakers FLEXED! Sound was significantly louder, more clear, more fidelity, and WAY more rich, full, seat shaking bass.
I used to need viper for every phone or tablet I had... But this phone kind of just makes that irrelevant..

UK three Razer

Simply.wihld liek to know if the Razer from Three has any bloatware at all?
Any downsides from buying a Razer from Three guys?

Apart from a Three logo on boot no there's nothing

I can confirm that too. That's it! ?

I'm running the UK Three build and I've noticed no bloat ware from them at all. Three have their WiFi calling already enabled in the settings and the odd few texts about service and recommended apps it's very clean.

Thanks to you all ?

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Simply.wihld liek to know if the Razer from Three has any bloatware at all?
Any downsides from buying a Razer from Three guys?
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Apart from a Three logo on boot no there's nothing
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Ma99ots said:
I can confirm that too. That's it! ?
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Lads, does three supply a Screen Protector and/or case in the box?

dillalade said:
Lads, does three supply a Screen Protector and/or case in the box?
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Nope you get the exact same as the unlocked version you have to buy the case and screen protector separately

Roxas598 said:
Nope you get the exact same as the unlocked version you have to buy the case and screen protector separately
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Orzly seems the inly decent choice, unless you can enlighten me with a better option

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Orzly seems the inly decent choice, unless you can enlighten me with a better option
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Can't atm tried to get some from Orzly it went missing in the post and they informed me today they have non left and won't have any stock of them until the end of the week.
I bought some other ones of eBay earlier so have to wait and see if they arrive and good quality, I wouldn't personally pay the £25 razer want for a piece of glass.

Roxas598 said:
Can't atm tried to get some from Orzly it went missing in the post and they informed me today they have non left and won't have any stock of them until the end of the week.
I bought some other ones of eBay earlier so have to wait and see if they arrive and good quality, I wouldn't personally pay the £25 razer want for a piece of glass.
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Ok cheers.
Yeh i calles orzly an hour ago, temperes glass in stock today so I should receive on wednesday. Have to wait for the case.
Tell me are you loving this phone or is it merely good enough

dillalade said:
Ok cheers.
Yeh i calles orzly an hour ago, temperes glass in stock today so I should receive on wednesday. Have to wait for the case.
Tell me are you loving this phone or is it merely good enough
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Well what I was told today must have been a lie....That company always screens dodgy to me half the time I try to get on their offical site it redirects me to some **** or doesn't work.
The phone is great although I have a problem with build quality on mine (speaker grill is coming away from the phone) and the vibration motor trust me you'll want to shut it off but apart from that it's good. If you're looking for a phone with amazing speakers look no further if you don't care about the speakers look eslewhere i'd say.

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Well what I was told today must have been a lie....That company always screens dodgy to me half the time I try to get on their offical site it redirects me to some **** or doesn't work.
The phone is great although I have a problem with build quality on mine (speaker grill is coming away from the phone) and the vibration motor trust me you'll want to shut it off but apart from that it's good. If you're looking for a phone with amazing speakers look no further if you don't care about the speakers look eslewhere i'd say.
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Yea ive heard about the vibration motor issue. I tend notnto use vibration.
What about the speed and over all responsiveness. Is it as precedent as the reviews state. Where they say its the best most responsive Android theyve experienced to date.
Apoligise for my typos my current phone has UI issues beyond my control. Thanks again

dillalade said:
Yea ive heard about the vibration motor issue. I tend notnto use vibration.
What about the speed and over all responsiveness. Is it as precedent as the reviews state. Where they say its the best most responsive Android theyve experienced to date.
Apoligise for my typos my current phone has UI issues beyond my control. Thanks again
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Yeah it's responsive and fast just as smooth as the pixels if I'm honest so you'll have no issue there but the camera isn't great atm remember that with the choice too.

Roxas598 said:
Yeah it's responsive and fast just as smooth as the pixels if I'm honest so you'll have no issue there but the camera isn't great atm remember that with the choice too.
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Yes I've heard camera.is straight poo.
But don't care
Just want a blistering experience otherwise

Still finding my ground with the phone and OS, I did go and buy the rugged case and razer screen protector but a grain of fluff got trapped during the apply stage to pulled it off in temper breaking the screen protector - they really arent for me.
The phone seems to be fine for general use, the camera isnt amazing but works, the battery is fantastic for on the go and have had no issues with battery life so far.
Performance on 4G and Wifi i havent seen an issue with so generally if i see no problem things are fine.
Generally Happy with the phone spec and performance however in the back of my mind i wish i went with a Google Pixel as I dont like all the issues with updates and have been too use to iOS kinda lifestyle - 1 update rolls out to all devices at once regardless of model and carrier.
Still an Android noob

Is coming with three app what is from play store and another app that I disable it . Don't know what this does . I am presuming for service like wuntu and three app .

iStasis said:
Still finding my ground with the phone and OS, I did go and buy the rugged case and razer screen protector but a grain of fluff got trapped during the apply stage to pulled it off in temper breaking the screen protector - they really arent for me.
The phone seems to be fine for general use, the camera isnt amazing but works, the battery is fantastic for on the go and have had no issues with battery life so far.
Performance on 4G and Wifi i havent seen an issue with so generally if i see no problem things are fine.
Generally Happy with the phone spec and performance however in the back of my mind i wish i went with a Google Pixel as I dont like all the issues with updates and have been too use to iOS kinda lifestyle - 1 update rolls out to all devices at once regardless of model and carrier.
Still an Android noob
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Cool
Yes the android ecosystem is different to iOS due to multiple manufacturers of the hw.
Your right if you wanted the iOS type update facility then Pixel is the connoisseurs choice

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Yes the android ecosystem is different to iOS due to multiple manufacturers of the hw.
Your right if you wanted the iOS type update facility then Pixel is the connoisseurs choice
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@dillalade thanks for that hopefully Razer stick to the word on 2 years worth of updates and their regular enough. Fingers cross Three UK handle these updates in a timely manor too as so many company's involved in updating a OS these days Google > Razor > Three UK.
I really wish that it was more simple like iOS same things just apple dealt with the builds themselves and carriers didn't get the chance to adjust settings for their company services.
Just really like having the power and battery at hand for when its needed and I am not a heavy gamer I have hearthstone and apart from that Netflix and other google apps its pretty clean once i uninstalled the pre install apps from Three UK. Mind you i left the billing and data one as I handy on my old iPhone and actually a reasonable app.

What android does the phone ship with, 6.1.1 or 7?

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What android does the phone ship with, 6.1.1 or 7?
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7.1.1 with 8.0 due in Q1 2018

razer or op5t?

Usually, I don't really like topics like this.... But now I need your opinions, guys!
Accidentally smashed my op3 and now I need a new toy.
Already watched a massive amount of videos on YouTube about the razer phone. Love the style, the shape.
However, I'm still can't decide.
Razer or OP5T?
I'm waiting for your thoughts, opinions, etc.
Thanks in advance.

i had the razer phone i sent it back less than a week, dont get me wrong love the retro metallic build and speakers. but the software seems unfinished and non optimised. the screen as fluid as it is @ 120hz just cannot compare to the OP5T in vibrancy and the screen on the RP is just shockingly too dim (even the Nokia phones have brighter LCD Screens). the op5t just feels more polished and its software more snappy. I really REALLY REALLYYYYYYY wanted to like the Razer Phone, but OP5T just seems to me a much better overall package having used both. This is totes subjective of course ...

Gave away my s8 plus and got the Razer. Love it exept for the camera. Se what they will to when oreo hits. But If I where you i would go with 5T.

QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning

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QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning
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Yepp and still isn't any good in my opinion, sadly.

I've got both infront of me currently, struggling to decide.
Unfortunately the 5T is giving me a bit of trouble recently.
The others are right, the RP screen is absolutely darker than others, roughly 60% of the 5T brightness and colours can seem a little washed out due to AMOLED vs LCD.
Battery life isn't anything to shout about either really and don't get me started on the camera! jeez.
Lastly, and this might come as a shock, the 5T puts out more decibels than the razer phone, the last update really undermined the volume and now my 5T has about 15% more volume, not clearer of course, but yeh.
All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".

The one thing I don't like about the display is that it is "sunken". Nowadays most displays the glass and the picture are together, like you're literally touching the pictures. But on the Razer, you can tell that the picture is below the glass, which is weird as I haven't seen that in phones in the past 3 to 4 years at least. Not sure if I explained that correctly, but that's a con to me. I think mkhbd mentioned this in the preview video

I'm thinking about buy the phone to replace my LG V10 battery life pretty much bad on it and LG pressing trying me to buy a battery for it but they not selling it them from the website

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All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".
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LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.

after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.

Roxas598 said:
after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.

hunhool said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.
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you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)

Roxas598 said:
you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)
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Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.

hunhool said:
Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.
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You're right the development portion of the device is lacking on here but the company do bi weekly ask me anything on the subreddit so they're very vocal. If I'm honest the lack of support imo is because of the A/B partition (something the razer has) and the lack of sales due to it costing so much on release. Now it's went down and essential are implementing project treble it might get better via custom ROMs
But again that's not very important to me anymore.

greyhulk said:
LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.
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Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.

xocomaox said:
Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.
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Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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greyhulk said:
Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.

xocomaox said:
Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.
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I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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greyhulk said:
I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.

xocomaox said:
No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.
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I couldn't agree more. Yet every time I go into a store and play with one of the new iPads, I nearly pull the trigger for that 120hz display. I think if it was at least brighter, there would be no hesitation.
No way I can view 400 nits outside in a Texas summer, though.
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