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Who actually will still keep their LG G3?

I see a lot of people complaining about the G3 when it comes to the difficulty unlocking the boot loader, and the stutters it has. A lot saying their getting the next android flagship.
Who will actually keep their device and like it for a long period? Cause I feel like I am the only one who loves the G3! I use my nexus 7 for my ROM addiction. Although will be great if the G3 bootloader gets unlocked!

you can add a poll
it will be very reflective
im keeping mine irrespective of the bootloader issue

I love my G3, and will keep it, but love also to unlock the bootloader
LG G3 D-855 V10h-EUR-XX
G3 TweaksBox 1.2RC

rraaka said:
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it will be very reflective
im keeping mine irrespective of the bootloader issue
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Think ill just do that soon (Y)

Keeping mine, no other phone is close. G3 tweaks provides enough for me

I personally will not keep the G3 for a long peroid of time as I tend to move on to the next android flagship when it is released, but this year I do plan to get the next iPhone for the first time in years

T3hBraveBoss said:
I personally will not keep the G3 for a long peroid of time as I tend to move on to the next android flagship when it is released, but this year I do plan to get the next iPhone for the first time in years
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I have been tempted by iphone a few times. Then i remember the software limitations and how vain apple is as a company

AndroidInsanity said:
I have been tempted by iphone a few times. Then i remember the software limitations and how vain apple is as a company
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I think iOS 8 will be a very different expierence with alot of new additions like the mac os x and ios intagration (making/picking up calls on your mac) and 3rd party keyboards coming

T3hBraveBoss said:
I think iOS 8 will be a very different expierence with alot of new additions like the mac os x and ios intagration (making/picking up calls on your mac) and 3rd party keyboards coming
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When they bring custom launchers, EASY rooting and more camera features, I may be very tempted. But until then, Android fanboy ftw lol

Poll is up! It has a character limit on so couldn't give as much options as I liked in the answer options.

I will.And i will see haw bootloader unlock from devs

My daughter will get mine. I will get the Nexus 6

Definitely keeping my g3. I love it
Sent from my LG G3

No point me changing it at the moment. All the high end Android phones are pretty much the same.
Locked boot loader doesn't bother me as I don't want a AOSP ROM, want to keep the LG features.

Too many issues that should have been fixed before release like the auxiliary port cutting out while listening to music. I can't keep unplugging and re plugging the jack while driving. The screen also neds to be brighter in direct sun light.

loonie01 said:
Too many issues that should have been fixed before release like the auxiliary port cutting out while listening to music. I can't keep unplugging and re plugging the jack while driving.
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THIS.
The recent apps function is also extremely delayed, which pretty much negates the point of even having a recent apps button.

Keeping it and very happy. Stock, no issues.
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biglilsteve said:
THIS.
The recent apps function is also extremely delayed, which pretty much negates the point of even having a recent apps button.
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Recent apps is almost instantaneous for me.
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loonie01 said:
Too many issues that should have been fixed before release like the auxiliary port cutting out while listening to music. I can't keep unplugging and re plugging the jack while driving. The screen also neds to be brighter in direct sun light.
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Is this just a car input/output issue? When I wear headphones on bus for an hour never had any cut outs.

I'm extremely happy with mine. For some reason I don't experience the same issues as everyone else. I don't know if I got lucky our what but no lag here, no aux issue, excellent battery with no over heating.

Anyone Regret Buying This?

As the title asks, anyone regret buying this phone? I will be ordering mine shortly, but I have seen a few issues, like aluminium coating peeling off, purple tint in camera photos, back glass part being awfully scratch prone etc., so got me thinking a bit. Who are already using it, does it feel like worth the most expensive Android phone on the market?

I've been nothing but pleased with it. I always keep my phones in a case. I was really happy with my Nexus 6P and this phone has been the next logical step from that. Haven't once been disappointed by it.

No regrets so far after 2 weeks. Normally I've been the type that goes back to iOS after I play with Android quite a bit, but in my opinion, Google has achieved the stability of iOS on this phone. The only thing I miss is iMessage but it's really not that huge of a deal.

I just don't like the size. When i go back and hold my Axon 7, it feels tiny in comparison!

Thanks guys. So 100% positive feedback then. The main two reasons I am considering this are the software experience and the camera, while former is the main thing. Just having a mental cancer using these Samsung phones for long term. I have been told Pixel has THE BEST Android experience so far, I just wanted to know whether that's true or not.
Thanks once again for commenting guys.

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Thanks guys. So 100% positive feedback then. The main two reasons I am considering this are the software experience and the camera, while former is the main thing. Just having a mental cancer using these Samsung phones for long term. I have been told Pixel has THE BEST Android experience so far, I just wanted to know whether that's true or not.
Thanks once again for commenting guys.
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I had a DE Note 4 since they were released and loved that phone. I recently got the Pixel XL (128gb) and actually like it better than my Note which says a lot.

I do but i think my problems are more N related. Also the assistant can't do things Google Now can which makes no sense.
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jaredstein21 said:
I do but i think my problems are more N related. Also the assistant can't do things Google Now can which makes no sense.
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I'm curious as to what things work with Google Now but not with the Assistant.

Assistant can't read you your text messages is the biggest one for me. Can't start stopwatch or do lists in Keep. Just does one list. There might be more but that's what I can think of right now.
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jaredstein21 said:
I do but i think my problems are more N related. Also the assistant can't do things Google Now can which makes no sense.
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Agreed. I have no problem with the dimensions and while many knocked it, I'm finding myself indifferent to the design language of the Pixel.
The phone runs like a dream. Unfortunately in my experience, Assistant does not. It really should be able to do some of the more basic things but to hold me over I've been using IFTT to somewhat offset it's limited functionality.
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Also the Bluetooth problem with GM products drives me nuts. Google takes too long to fix things. I believe Apple would have fixed that already. If it's not fixed on this next update I'm going to try really hard to return it. Doubt they will since I'm past my 15 days. I almost returned it everyday. The phone is good just too many bugs. Some were there in the previews and were never fixed. Fix those couple things and this is the best phone IMO.
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ithehappy said:
Thanks guys. So 100% positive feedback then. The main two reasons I am considering this are the software experience and the camera, while former is the main thing. Just having a mental cancer using these Samsung phones for long term. I have been told Pixel has THE BEST Android experience so far, I just wanted to know whether that's true or not.
Thanks once again for commenting guys.
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I was at first a little put off by the camera. I had a note 7 for like a week before the Pixel (The nexus 6p was my daily driver until I got the note 7). I really liked the Note 7 as well. Specifically the camera. And the Pixel XL camera seemed worse at first... Then I opened the pictures on my desktop. The Pixel XL was noticeably better. The screen on the Note 7 just made them seem better due to the super high color saturation, The pixel screen is much more true and neutral. Didn't mention it earlier.
It is in fact the best Google software experience I've had to date.

A solid no. I have had is a week now and I like more each day.
ithehappy said:
As the title asks, anyone regret buying this phone? I will be ordering mine shortly, but I have seen a few issues, like aluminium coating peeling off, purple tint in camera photos, back glass part being awfully scratch prone etc., so got me thinking a bit. Who are already using it, does it feel like worth the most expensive Android phone on the market?
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Yeah about that screen, well I really wish that they calibrated in even more naturally. In the sRGB mode even the phones like OnePlus 3 defeats it, in grayscale accuracy I mean, that's the thing I don't like, its still a device which can't defeat other flagship phones like S7, iPhone 7 etc., it should have been calibrated better. I HATE over saturation of any sorts.
PS: Decision is made, buying it, just now need to decide which one. God these bezels!
Thanks a lot for all your inputs guys, appreciate it.

I'm torn. Should I get rid of my HTC 10 and a get a pixel XL?

Reuben_skelz92 said:
I'm torn. Should I get rid of my HTC 10 and a get a pixel XL?
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I wouldn't.. S820 is now fully unlocked in nougat and the Phone is a beast
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Xperia U Lover said:
I wouldn't.. S820 is now fully unlocked in nougat and the Phone is a beast
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True..but bigger screen and more up to date software on the XL

not at all..i do like my pixel jr a bit more than my xl

Reuben_skelz92 said:
True..but bigger screen and more up to date software on the XL
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Bugger screen yes, but not big enough considering bezels.. My opinion is that the htc 10 is more fun phone and if u r a flash junky u will be happier with the 10 cus there isnt really much u can play with on the pixel cus of its pure stock android.. Dunno what u want in a phone but the htc in terms of software will be like month or max two behind the pixel
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So I've had my XL for nearly a month, and the jury is still out. I have a Mazda, and pretty much every other time I get in the car the phone will not stay connected to the car (and the car never recognizes the phone even when the phone says it is connected). There is a solution when this happens: turn off Bluetooth, turn it back on and then manually connect to the car. Then everything is fine.
Then there is the stutter-ringing. When someone NOT on my contact list calls for the first time, the phone rings for nearly a second, then acts like a hangup, then rings again, etc. until T-Mobile times out and sends the caller to voicemail. The call log shows 4-5 unanswered calls from that caller, and when it is stuttering, it is impossible to get the timing right and answer the call. Once the caller is in the call log, though, it works fine literally every time after that. Delete the call from the log, and it starts with that caller again. Does not do this with any contact or anyone in the call log.
Finally there is the weird times when the phone decides to lock even though it is connected to a trusted device, or is in a trusted location. Like 1-3 mornings per week when the phone decides sometime over night to make me re-enter my PIN even though it is connected to my watch AND at home, both with trust relationships. The rest of the week? No problem, no lock, business as usual.
The phone is great, it is fast and mostly works as expected. But there are just enough quirks to be seriously annoying. Plus this is supposed to be a consumer phone - I was more willing to be out there on the edge with my Nexus devices, but if I gave this to my Mom I would be on endless support calls. And I paid a premium price so the expectation is much higher.

UK three Razer

Simply.wihld liek to know if the Razer from Three has any bloatware at all?
Any downsides from buying a Razer from Three guys?

Apart from a Three logo on boot no there's nothing

I can confirm that too. That's it! ?

I'm running the UK Three build and I've noticed no bloat ware from them at all. Three have their WiFi calling already enabled in the settings and the odd few texts about service and recommended apps it's very clean.

Thanks to you all ?

dillalade said:
Simply.wihld liek to know if the Razer from Three has any bloatware at all?
Any downsides from buying a Razer from Three guys?
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Apart from a Three logo on boot no there's nothing
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Ma99ots said:
I can confirm that too. That's it! ?
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Lads, does three supply a Screen Protector and/or case in the box?

dillalade said:
Lads, does three supply a Screen Protector and/or case in the box?
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Nope you get the exact same as the unlocked version you have to buy the case and screen protector separately

Roxas598 said:
Nope you get the exact same as the unlocked version you have to buy the case and screen protector separately
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Orzly seems the inly decent choice, unless you can enlighten me with a better option

dillalade said:
Orzly seems the inly decent choice, unless you can enlighten me with a better option
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Can't atm tried to get some from Orzly it went missing in the post and they informed me today they have non left and won't have any stock of them until the end of the week.
I bought some other ones of eBay earlier so have to wait and see if they arrive and good quality, I wouldn't personally pay the £25 razer want for a piece of glass.

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Can't atm tried to get some from Orzly it went missing in the post and they informed me today they have non left and won't have any stock of them until the end of the week.
I bought some other ones of eBay earlier so have to wait and see if they arrive and good quality, I wouldn't personally pay the £25 razer want for a piece of glass.
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Ok cheers.
Yeh i calles orzly an hour ago, temperes glass in stock today so I should receive on wednesday. Have to wait for the case.
Tell me are you loving this phone or is it merely good enough

dillalade said:
Ok cheers.
Yeh i calles orzly an hour ago, temperes glass in stock today so I should receive on wednesday. Have to wait for the case.
Tell me are you loving this phone or is it merely good enough
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Well what I was told today must have been a lie....That company always screens dodgy to me half the time I try to get on their offical site it redirects me to some **** or doesn't work.
The phone is great although I have a problem with build quality on mine (speaker grill is coming away from the phone) and the vibration motor trust me you'll want to shut it off but apart from that it's good. If you're looking for a phone with amazing speakers look no further if you don't care about the speakers look eslewhere i'd say.

Roxas598 said:
Well what I was told today must have been a lie....That company always screens dodgy to me half the time I try to get on their offical site it redirects me to some **** or doesn't work.
The phone is great although I have a problem with build quality on mine (speaker grill is coming away from the phone) and the vibration motor trust me you'll want to shut it off but apart from that it's good. If you're looking for a phone with amazing speakers look no further if you don't care about the speakers look eslewhere i'd say.
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Yea ive heard about the vibration motor issue. I tend notnto use vibration.
What about the speed and over all responsiveness. Is it as precedent as the reviews state. Where they say its the best most responsive Android theyve experienced to date.
Apoligise for my typos my current phone has UI issues beyond my control. Thanks again

dillalade said:
Yea ive heard about the vibration motor issue. I tend notnto use vibration.
What about the speed and over all responsiveness. Is it as precedent as the reviews state. Where they say its the best most responsive Android theyve experienced to date.
Apoligise for my typos my current phone has UI issues beyond my control. Thanks again
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Yeah it's responsive and fast just as smooth as the pixels if I'm honest so you'll have no issue there but the camera isn't great atm remember that with the choice too.

Roxas598 said:
Yeah it's responsive and fast just as smooth as the pixels if I'm honest so you'll have no issue there but the camera isn't great atm remember that with the choice too.
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Yes I've heard camera.is straight poo.
But don't care
Just want a blistering experience otherwise

Still finding my ground with the phone and OS, I did go and buy the rugged case and razer screen protector but a grain of fluff got trapped during the apply stage to pulled it off in temper breaking the screen protector - they really arent for me.
The phone seems to be fine for general use, the camera isnt amazing but works, the battery is fantastic for on the go and have had no issues with battery life so far.
Performance on 4G and Wifi i havent seen an issue with so generally if i see no problem things are fine.
Generally Happy with the phone spec and performance however in the back of my mind i wish i went with a Google Pixel as I dont like all the issues with updates and have been too use to iOS kinda lifestyle - 1 update rolls out to all devices at once regardless of model and carrier.
Still an Android noob

Is coming with three app what is from play store and another app that I disable it . Don't know what this does . I am presuming for service like wuntu and three app .

iStasis said:
Still finding my ground with the phone and OS, I did go and buy the rugged case and razer screen protector but a grain of fluff got trapped during the apply stage to pulled it off in temper breaking the screen protector - they really arent for me.
The phone seems to be fine for general use, the camera isnt amazing but works, the battery is fantastic for on the go and have had no issues with battery life so far.
Performance on 4G and Wifi i havent seen an issue with so generally if i see no problem things are fine.
Generally Happy with the phone spec and performance however in the back of my mind i wish i went with a Google Pixel as I dont like all the issues with updates and have been too use to iOS kinda lifestyle - 1 update rolls out to all devices at once regardless of model and carrier.
Still an Android noob
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Cool
Yes the android ecosystem is different to iOS due to multiple manufacturers of the hw.
Your right if you wanted the iOS type update facility then Pixel is the connoisseurs choice

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Yes the android ecosystem is different to iOS due to multiple manufacturers of the hw.
Your right if you wanted the iOS type update facility then Pixel is the connoisseurs choice
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@dillalade thanks for that hopefully Razer stick to the word on 2 years worth of updates and their regular enough. Fingers cross Three UK handle these updates in a timely manor too as so many company's involved in updating a OS these days Google > Razor > Three UK.
I really wish that it was more simple like iOS same things just apple dealt with the builds themselves and carriers didn't get the chance to adjust settings for their company services.
Just really like having the power and battery at hand for when its needed and I am not a heavy gamer I have hearthstone and apart from that Netflix and other google apps its pretty clean once i uninstalled the pre install apps from Three UK. Mind you i left the billing and data one as I handy on my old iPhone and actually a reasonable app.

What android does the phone ship with, 6.1.1 or 7?

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What android does the phone ship with, 6.1.1 or 7?
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7.1.1 with 8.0 due in Q1 2018

razer or op5t?

Usually, I don't really like topics like this.... But now I need your opinions, guys!
Accidentally smashed my op3 and now I need a new toy.
Already watched a massive amount of videos on YouTube about the razer phone. Love the style, the shape.
However, I'm still can't decide.
Razer or OP5T?
I'm waiting for your thoughts, opinions, etc.
Thanks in advance.

i had the razer phone i sent it back less than a week, dont get me wrong love the retro metallic build and speakers. but the software seems unfinished and non optimised. the screen as fluid as it is @ 120hz just cannot compare to the OP5T in vibrancy and the screen on the RP is just shockingly too dim (even the Nokia phones have brighter LCD Screens). the op5t just feels more polished and its software more snappy. I really REALLY REALLYYYYYYY wanted to like the Razer Phone, but OP5T just seems to me a much better overall package having used both. This is totes subjective of course ...

Gave away my s8 plus and got the Razer. Love it exept for the camera. Se what they will to when oreo hits. But If I where you i would go with 5T.

QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning

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QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning
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Yepp and still isn't any good in my opinion, sadly.

I've got both infront of me currently, struggling to decide.
Unfortunately the 5T is giving me a bit of trouble recently.
The others are right, the RP screen is absolutely darker than others, roughly 60% of the 5T brightness and colours can seem a little washed out due to AMOLED vs LCD.
Battery life isn't anything to shout about either really and don't get me started on the camera! jeez.
Lastly, and this might come as a shock, the 5T puts out more decibels than the razer phone, the last update really undermined the volume and now my 5T has about 15% more volume, not clearer of course, but yeh.
All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".

The one thing I don't like about the display is that it is "sunken". Nowadays most displays the glass and the picture are together, like you're literally touching the pictures. But on the Razer, you can tell that the picture is below the glass, which is weird as I haven't seen that in phones in the past 3 to 4 years at least. Not sure if I explained that correctly, but that's a con to me. I think mkhbd mentioned this in the preview video

I'm thinking about buy the phone to replace my LG V10 battery life pretty much bad on it and LG pressing trying me to buy a battery for it but they not selling it them from the website

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All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".
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LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.

after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.

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after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.

hunhool said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.
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you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)

Roxas598 said:
you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)
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Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.

hunhool said:
Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.
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You're right the development portion of the device is lacking on here but the company do bi weekly ask me anything on the subreddit so they're very vocal. If I'm honest the lack of support imo is because of the A/B partition (something the razer has) and the lack of sales due to it costing so much on release. Now it's went down and essential are implementing project treble it might get better via custom ROMs
But again that's not very important to me anymore.

greyhulk said:
LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.
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Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.

xocomaox said:
Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.
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Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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greyhulk said:
Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.

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Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.
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I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.

xocomaox said:
No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.
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I couldn't agree more. Yet every time I go into a store and play with one of the new iPads, I nearly pull the trigger for that 120hz display. I think if it was at least brighter, there would be no hesitation.
No way I can view 400 nits outside in a Texas summer, though.
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Is LineageOS finally arriving?

I was viewing the download page on the Lineage site and noticed several references to "android_device_motorola_nash" in the changelog. Does this mean Nash in the works? I could not find Z2 force in the list of devices, but why else would the changelog reference Nash?
I sure hope it happens. If Lineage rolls out, others may soon follow.
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ianmck said:
I was viewing the download page on the Lineage site and noticed several references to "android_device_motorola_nash" in the changelog. Does this mean Nash in the works? I could not find Z2 force in the list of devices, but why else would the changelog reference Nash?
I sure hope it happens. If Lineage rolls out, others may soon follow.
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When there's a will there's a way. It boots... Sort of... It has things needing fixed before it can be officially released. It has too many bugs to release.

Uzephi said:
When there's a will there's a way. It boots... Sort of... It has things needing fixed before it can be officially released. It has too many bugs to release.
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This is a good sign indeed! ROM's are sorely lacking on this device. I've been debating whether to get TMO's deal @ $375, but lack of ROM support has kept me from pulling the trigger so far. Coming from Nexus 6 where I was quite spoiled....
Thx!

ianmck said:
This is a good sign indeed! ROM's are sorely lacking on this device. I've been debating whether to get TMO's deal @ $375, but lack of ROM support has kept me from pulling the trigger so far. Coming from Nexus 6 where I was quite spoiled....
Thx!
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pull the trigger, between its already awesome battery life, ad clear(https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-adclear-root-version-ad-blocker-t3309011) not to mention mods, its a pretty solid device, i haven't even rooted it yet and i don't think i will

ianmck said:
This is a good sign indeed! ROM's are sorely lacking on this device. I've been debating whether to get TMO's deal @ $375, but lack of ROM support has kept me from pulling the trigger so far. Coming from Nexus 6 where I was quite spoiled....
Thx!
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The price and the fact it can be rooted on T-Mobile is worth it for me. I pulled the trigger. I'm waiting on the device to ship, but I already have the battery mod waiting.

Bobboman said:
pull the trigger, between its already awesome battery life, ad clear(https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-adclear-root-version-ad-blocker-t3309011) not to mention mods, its a pretty solid device, i haven't even rooted it yet and i don't think i will
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Thanks for the feedback. I think I might head to TMO asap. The battery mods and gamepad intrigue me. I may stick with Moto for a long time if the mods work out.
Can you (or anyone) answer these questions?
How does the speaker sound? Is it good at high volumes?
Do the Mods stay on good and tight? Do they ever fall off.....perhaps if phone dropped?
Thx again.

ianmck said:
Thanks for the feedback. I think I might head to TMO asap. The battery mods and gamepad intrigue me. I may stick with Moto for a long time if the mods work out.
Can you (or anyone) answer these questions?
How does the speaker sound? Is it good at high volumes?
Do the Mods stay on good and tight? Do they ever fall off.....perhaps if phone dropped?
Thx again.
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If you drop it the mods fall off, otherwise they are rock solid on and are actually sometimes hard to switch. The JBL speak is loud and sounds amazing. I've never used the internal speaker lol
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elijahaf97 said:
If you drop it the mods fall off, otherwise they are rock solid on and are actually sometimes hard to switch. The JBL speak is loud and sounds amazing. I've never used the internal speaker lol
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Thx! Good to know. I ended up buying this phone and I am pretty happy with it so far....but it does have its shortcomings. I swear Moto must have done this on purpose so you buy more mods. I would not have been happy if I paid full price, but TMO deal is a steal at half off. Amazon has it even cheaper.
For the record, the speaker sounds like crap esp at high volumes.....crackles a bit.

ianmck said:
Thx! Good to know. I ended up buying this phone and I am pretty happy with it so far....but it does have its shortcomings. I swear Moto must have done this on purpose so you buy more mods. I would not have been happy if I paid full price, but TMO deal is a steal at half off. Amazon has it even cheaper.
For the record, the speaker sounds like crap esp at high volumes.....crackles a bit.
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My speaker sounds fine even with Dolby and Viper boosting the output gain. Super loud and clearer than my dual speaker phone.

mookiexl said:
My speaker sounds fine even with Dolby and Viper boosting the output gain. Super loud and clearer than my dual speaker phone.
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I want to try Viper, but I am afraid to root right now in case my speaker is actually faulty. I read a couple comments that complained about a bad speaker, one of which was exchanged under warranty.

ianmck said:
I want to try Viper, but I am afraid to root right now in case my speaker is actually faulty. I read a couple comments that complained about a bad speaker, one of which was exchanged under warranty.
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If Moto is anything like HTC, a hardware defect wouldn't matter with a software unlock. I haven't personally tried but most companies who openly unlock their phones can make a good judgement if locked phones have same issue. Like the purple camera incident on the M7, HTC didn't care about lock status since it was a known defect.

elijahaf97 said:
If you drop it the mods fall off, otherwise they are rock solid on and are actually sometimes hard to switch. The JBL speak is loud and sounds amazing. I've never used the internal speaker lol
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I know this is old, but I just saw it, have to say, it's HILARIOUS, when I lob the phone on the floor to show people it's durable and things fly off of it lol.
It freaks them out.