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How bad are Nexus 5X issues?

I ordered one a few days ago. But since I ordered it I started reading about all the issues it has.
Is it really THAT bad? Now I'm thinking of selling it as soon as it arrives and getting an HTC One A9 =/
I really thought nexus phone were supposed to be the best of android.

renatofontes said:
I ordered one a few days ago. But since I ordered it I started reading about all the issues it has.
Is it really THAT bad?
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No, it is a great phone, period. And a fantastic phone given the (U.S.) price.
The folks with problems will always be more vocal than the folks who don't have problems. But, for example, check out the heavy upvoting on reddit when people post that they are not having problems. There is a large (but mostly silent) majority of folks who are simply enjoying their phone and have no reason to post to internet forums looking for advice.
Also, note that what appear to be the two most common issues (slowdown/lag after long periods of uptime, and battery issues) also crop up in the 6P forums. I don't know why some people have these issues and some (like me) don't, but I am not convinced that they are phone-specific even when they do occur.

Nidstang said:
No, it is a great phone, period. And a fantastic phone given the (U.S.) price.
The folks with problems will always be more vocal than the folks who don't have problems. But, for example, check out the heavy upvoting on reddit when people post that they are not having problems. There is a large (but mostly silent) majority of folks who are simply enjoying their phone and have no reason to post to internet forums looking for advice.
Also, note that what appear to be the two most common issues (slowdown/lag after long periods of uptime, and battery issues) also crop up in the 6P forums. I don't know why some people have these issues and some (like me) don't, but I am not convinced that they are phone-specific even when they do occur.
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So you have no issues when opening up the camera app? That's what worries me the most

renatofontes said:
So you have no issues when opening up the camera app? That's what worries me the most
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I do not have an issue when opening the app. Also, the stock app was just updated in the play store and I think I have seen some reports of people commenting favorably on the update.
In the interests of full disclosure, I should say that I am not a heavy camera user (though I do take pictures). I use my 5X mostly for e-mail, texts, voice calls, playing/listening to music, web browsing, and navigation.

renatofontes said:
I ordered one a few days ago. But since I ordered it I started reading about all the issues it has.
Is it really THAT bad? Now I'm thinking of selling it as soon as it arrives and getting an HTC One A9 =/
I really thought nexus phone were supposed to be the best of android.
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Never read about issues before you get the phone. I got one a couple days ago and it is just as good as my Nexus 5. No screen issues as all. The device is physically perfect. However, if you go read about all of the stuff people have issues with you start dissecting your device and finding problems you normally wouldn't have noticed or that aren't real problems anyway. I bet if you went to the HTC A9 forum you'd find all sorts of threads with people reporting issues. People tend to report negative issues vs reporting on the positive.

Every new phone has issues. Only people who have something to complain about are going to be vocal. There are many, many happy users out there who haven't made a peep about their phones at all.
I've had my N5x for over a week now and am very happy with it. No issues, except for the very tight and stiff headphone jack.

Thanks for the replies guys

Same here, zero issues have been noticed by myself.

renatofontes said:
So you have no issues when opening up the camera app? That's what worries me the most
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I found the camera lag seems to be related to AUTO HDR+. Camera seldom lags now after I just leave HDR+ off or on, instead of using auto.

renatofontes said:
So you have no issues when opening up the camera app? That's what worries me the most
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No issues opening the camera here. It opens faster than the Nexus 5 camera.
Most of the issues people have are related to one of the apps or services they installed. Being a new version of Android with new features that need to be coded in (permission sets and doze) means there are lots of apps that can have incompatibility issues at this time.
Folks tend not look to their apps and services for their issues even though they're the cause of 99% of them. Instead they instantly blame the hardware for software problems.

If it makes you feel any better, I've had my 5x for 3 weeks and haven't encountered any problems. Only real disappointment for me is the speaker. But that's mainly bc I came from the M8. Nothing can really compare to boomsound. 3gb ram would be nice but its not like this phone is laggy with 2 gb or anything
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ubcjack said:
I found the camera lag seems to be related to AUTO HDR+. Camera seldom lags now after I just leave HDR+ off or on, instead of using auto.
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I think you're right about that. I've just left it on and seems just slightly less laggy. Also, could be the updated app a week or so ago. It's not quite as smooth as I would like it but still good to know of that it can be improved.
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had mine a few days now and it's not a bad phone. Battery life is worst than I was expecting and I have an issue with the hall effect sensor locking the screen when I use the magnet dock in my car (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=196357)

No the issues aren't as bad as people make them out to be. I suspect if there was no Nexus 6P, people wouldn't be complaining about the 5X so much. The phone is a solid performer. I'm not sure why some are giving this device a hard time.

renatofontes said:
I ordered one a few days ago. But since I ordered it I started reading about all the issues it has.
Is it really THAT bad? Now I'm thinking of selling it as soon as it arrives and getting an HTC One A9 =/
I really thought nexus phone were supposed to be the best of android.
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I have zero issues, except for the cheap back plastic picking up stains. What bad issues are you talking about?
And I agree that people who complain about lag have some app messing up their phone. I have always used System Panel Pro to diagnose stuff like that. Without it, I would have thought every phone I ever owned had problems. With it, I almost always see some app stuck in a process using up cpu and making things lag. Kill it, problem goes away.

Overall I'm pretty happy. Coming from a Nexus 5 the Nexus 5X is an improvement(although not HUGE). The only issue I could really think of is the less than impressive battery life.

So... My Nexus 5x arrived yesterday... There is a black spot in the camera I think I'm gonna have to trade it for a new one but have no idea of how international returns work xD
Wish me luck

renatofontes said:
So... My Nexus 5x arrived yesterday... There is a black spot in the camera I think I'm gonna have to trade it for a new one but have no idea of how international returns work xD
Wish me luck
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A black spot in the camera? Never heard that before, can you post a pic please?

renatofontes said:
So... My Nexus 5x arrived yesterday... There is a black spot in the camera I think I'm gonna have to trade it for a new one but have no idea of how international returns work xD
Wish me luck
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Are you talking about after you take a pic and look at a thumbnail it had the spot? Or in the viewfinder live there is a spot? Have you changed your DPI by chance?

jbdan said:
Are you talking about after you take a pic and look at a thumbnail it had the spot? Or in the viewfinder live there is a spot? Have you changed your DPI by chance?
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In the live viewfinder there is a spot and also in the final picture. I haven't change DPI settings, didn't know you could =P

Done with the Turbo 2

Well, it was a nice device, in concept. But, after 5 replacements for various defects, I'm done. I ordered the Samsung S7. Never owned a Samsung before, but I have to assume the support is better than the new Lenovo owned Motorola. I've been a loyal Moto customer since the OG Droid in 2010. Plus, these phones are too big. I'm not a huge guy, so a screen that is hard to hold, and fit in my pocket is a non starter. Hopefully, the battery is decent on the S7, and the phone reception is good. Otherwise, I can live without some of the great Moto software features, as nifty as they are. Software isn't much use when the screen is defective, or people can't hear me talking.

I must admit when I saw the title, I thought you were gonna leave because of the lack of MM update. Sorry to hear you've had so many problems with this phone, I hope the S7 brings you good luck.

You will hate how locked down the s7 is. Should of went 6p. I sold my turbo 2 for a 6p and love it. I had 2 turbo 2's never had an issues but the battery life on my 6p is about the same and I get USB type c unlocked and a fingerprint reader so this is more of what I wanted.

Martingitdave said:
Well, it was a nice device, in concept. But, after 5 replacements for various defects, I'm done. I ordered the Samsung S7. [...]
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I had the S5 and I really miss it. I thought I would like the Turbo 2 but it hasn't lived up to any of the promises so far, except I haven't tested the toughness of the screen. My replacement Turbo 2 came in today and I'll get it setup tonight. If it fails me, I'll get the S7 Edge because of the larger battery than the regular S7.
I've only had this phone for 2 months and it's developed hardware problems. I never had a hardware problem with the S5, just some stupid lack of updates from Samsung AND Verizon. I was lured by Motorola's false advertising of 3 days of battery life. I can't get 1 day of battery life if I actually use the phone. If I leave it face down and don't touch it, I could probably get 3 days. Face up, the stupid motion sensor (that I haven't figured out how to turn off) wakes up the screen all the damn time. The battery lasts 1 day, less than a day or just over a day and a half in my experience over the last 2 months. A day and a half was with VERY minimal phone usage.
I wish you the best with the S7 and I hope it's far better than this POS.

quarky42 said:
Face up, the stupid motion sensor (that I haven't figured out how to turn off) wakes up the screen all the damn time. T
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Start moto app, tap right top corner, actions, first option on the list...

I don't believe Verizon ever said 3 days of battery. What I saw was up to 48 hours with mixed usage.
I average almost 20 hours and 5.5 OST.
Much better than the M8 I had before it.
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Martingitdave said:
I'm not a huge guy.
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I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there

xbxjunkie said:
I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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Cute. How old are you? I'm a grown man with a family and a job.
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Martingitdave said:
Cute. How old are you? I'm a grown man with a family and a job.
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me too.....boss......relax

xbxjunkie said:
I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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Sadly we don't have girls (or they're really rare) here to confirm the size really matters

The 6P is a huge phone and ugly as sin. Great for updates, but if you aren't a front speaker aficionado (which I'm not) then it is just ugly and wasted space.
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I've had my Verizon turbo 2 since about 2 weeks after release and have had 0 hardware problems and haven't replaced it once. You're either really clumsy or really unlucky. People don't know how to take care of their phone and I'm assuming you're one of those people, considering you've replaced it 5 times. As far as the battery life I'm a heavy user and push 24 hrs before I'm out of battery. Learn how to train it and uninstall stuff that eats up the battery. I see so many people leave like 100 different apps open in the task manager (the built in one of course) and it kills me. They wonder why their phone is so slow or why it's always dead so quick and their too ****ing lazy to click a button and kill tasks. Anyways I'm sure you don't have the ignorance of people like that otherwise you wouldn't be browsing and posting on XDA. The only reason I would see me moving on from this phone is for root and BL unlock. I love my Roms and kernels. When I was still in school I had a gs3 that I had a new ROM on every day I came to school lol. I miss that **** but I just don't wanna go back to Samsung's mediocre feeling phones, just not a trade-off I'm willing to make. But if that's what you want, all power to you man and gl.

Believe it or not, people have been unlucky and have had hardware issues (green line issues and power button issues to name a few), consider yourself lucky.

mjones73 said:
Believe it or not, people have been unlucky and have had hardware issues (green line issues and power button issues to name a few), consider yourself lucky.
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I can attest to this, my first turbo 2 had a green line the first time I turned the phone on 2 days after release, fortunately I hadn't walked out the door yet so they swapped it out immediately. as for the power button issue, surprisingly making a seal with your mouth and blowing hard seems to dislodge whatever dust might be getting stuck and fixes the issue (found this solution online, it has worked like a charm)

This is truly unbelievable, I paid off my DT2 600.00 that I got in October. Nothing wrong with it, excellent shape. I pre ordered the s7 edge and was going to trade it in and knock down the price a little on my new one. ISYN, they only offered me 36.53 for it! I thought was a mistake so I asked several times. Looks like I will keep this one as a backup.

They always say NOT to use task killers
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just for the recordd, i think the hardware issues probably have more to do with how verizon handles. stores and ships devices cuz its nvr seemed to matter what kind of phone ive had ive always had 3-6 warranty exchanges, and we all know those dnt come brand new in the box, usually actually someone elses defect return. there arnt 10000 dt2 out there that are defective, there are 1000 and vzw has sent them to 10 people each :/

Unfortunately, the only way to have a brand new phone is to be first in line opening morning release day. And even then, that you don't receive a phone that has already been tested/used by a Verizon employee and repackaged. Fortunately, knock on wood, I have my original purchased opening morning.
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I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with your phone sir. I've had nothing but awesomeness with mine. I will admit I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of dev support for the DT2. I would love to learn how to Dev for this, but I'm way too busy with life. I left Samsung bc I got tired of the VERY SLOW AND LAGGING OS. I would've gone the Nexus route, but I've really been impressed with Lenovarola lately. I know some of you aren't but I'm having good luck.
Anyway best of luck to you on your Samsung!

Okay, had the T2 since 3 days after launch. The Green Line appeared about two months ago, got a replacement. The mic would not work unless on speakerphone. Got a replacement and now the phone all too often heats up, and I get instant battery drain. When this happens, I lose about 30% of the charge in 20 minutes... Plus, little tiny scratches on the phone screen. I have never had a screen saver on any phone, and never had a problem...

Pixel Growing Old?

Ok so I don't know if I should have this discussion here or not but here it is.
How many are tired of their pixel I have a XL and Pixel both are unlocked and on stock they was originally on pure Nexus and at first I loved this phone but here lately I hardly even use my phone when I had my note 5 I always used it but idk if it's because I am getting older or what but I think I'm going to sell my pixels and move on to another device . Anyone else getting a lack of interest in the pixel?

Agree, you're getting older.
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Dewaynelives said:
Ok so I don't know if I should have this discussion here or not but here it is.
How many are tired of their pixel I have a XL and Pixel both are unlocked and on stock they was originally on pure Nexus and at first I loved this phone but here lately I hardly even use my phone when I had my note 5 I always used it but idk if it's because I am getting older or what but I think I'm going to sell my pixels and move on to another device . Anyone else getting a lack of interest in the pixel?
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You probably should've researched your phone buying choice more

The beautiful thing about the Pixel is that everything just works. I have an S8+ and don't really use it because it's just not a smooth experience. I also just got a OnePlus 5, and it's not really a match either (worse display & camera).

Your Pixel is not growing old.... you are.
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I love EAS the only reason I don't use other devices as a daily but the poor Speakers/Audio output is a killer for me for now I can deal with it since I use an External DAC but it's not convenient I hope Google addresses audio for the next Pixel

bobby janow said:
Agree, you're getting older.
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beauty of being an adult.... how bout you try growing alil yourself instead of insulting?

Nitemare3219 said:
The beautiful thing about the Pixel is that everything just works. I have an S8+ and don't really use it because it's just not a smooth experience. I also just got a OnePlus 5, and it's not really a match either (worse display & camera).
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i agree man it is a great device software wise and the camera is just beautiful lol i have had just about every device since the g1 and im telling you the pixel is a peice of work i think the design is what makes it so blah tho

clone1008 said:
Your Pixel is not growing old.... you are.
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HHAHAH i bout choked on my false teeth thanks for that joke kiddo

Captain Hindsight said:
You probably should've researched your phone buying choice more
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i have had just bout every phone since the G1,Mytouches,NOTES,S Series Phones,LG GSeries And V Series i buy and cell phones daily i have had alot of phonese research is not my problem i research them extensively. its just the pixel has lost the wow factor for me not saying it sucks or insulting it cause it still is the most smoothest pfonw available

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HHAHAH i bout choked on my false teeth thanks for that joke kiddo
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Lol... kiddo? I am probably older than you.
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i do not understant why people cant have a conversation without insults. i am in no way downing the pixel i am just wondering how many of you are tired of it or are over it since it has lost the newness.... I have had alot of phone and there are only a couple phones tht i think would never loose the beauty of the device if only there was a way to update them and that is th MYTOUCH Fender Edition it was a phoe that stood out design wise i just miss that. the pixel it is great software wise but design wise it just seems lacking after a 6 months .

clone1008 said:
Lol... kiddo? I am probably older than you.
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probably sonny..... why dont you be a good youngen and respect your elders ;/ lol im just messing with ya dude
hope ya have a good day

I have a Pixel and Huawei, if it's not the mobile network provider which only offers CDMA, I'll definitely use my Pixel daily...

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beauty of being an adult.... how bout you try growing alil yourself instead of insulting?
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Have you any idea how ridiculous your op is? There was no insult I was just mirroring your mature thoughts about growing old. Leave it at that and buy another device. You're getting older and this device is just not for old folks.
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I think all you Pixel lovers are going to be in for a rude surprise when these start failing in large numbers like the Nexus 6P did. This phone is poorly engineered and runs way too hot internally. Unless Google has managed to reinvent the wheel high temperatures and electronic components have never been a good combination. The Pixel also has truly dreadful speakers. The 6P sounded so much better Google should really be ashamed. They're charging 300 dollars more for a device that runs much hotter than the 6P and which actually sounds worse than a garbage phone that my friend got for 30 dollars at the Cricket Store. I honestly think Pixel owners are in complete denial when it comes to this phone. Yeah the Pixel runs fast and smooth but the CPU gets so hot to achieve that performance that you'll probably have to buy a new Pixel every two years.

I have no problem with Pixel manufacturing or design, aside from the frame not being glued to the screen in the top right corner, which every Pixel device has, no idea why.
My problem with Pixel is that it is a dumb phone compared to something like Note or even Galaxy. All it does is browse the internet, that's it. It does browse very fast, but I could have gotten an iPhone if I wanted a fast dumb phone...

Not a bright OP really, stuttered to figure the English out anyway.
No, not tired of the phone, seven months old mine, and I love it. Best android phone I've ever owned, all I ever wanted was smooth android and Pixel is the first one fulfilling my need, so I'm gonna keep it for as long as I can unless I am really sold to the next iteration. Garbage UI like Samsung and LG's exists, making Pixel the so much better phone anyway.
Pardon the troll above mine, as always.

Lmao the fact people can't take a joke and differentiate between a joke and seriousness is sad.... my op was a serious question all of you who had to make a attempt at being funny ruined a real conversation. It's funny that's y'all was ok with being a prick till it got turned around on you. This is the internet so best not get offended over pettiness. I still stand by my op. It's sad you can't have a conversation these days without some smart as es who gotta ruin it for everyone.....
The pixel could have been alor better idc who you are but is my opinion you could have contributed to this post instead you had to try and be funny. As for the conversation it's still open is like to hear you thoughts

bobby janow said:
Have you any idea how ridiculous your op is? There was no insult I was just mirroring your mature thoughts about growing old. Leave it at that and buy another device. You're getting older and this device is just not for old folks.
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Not for old folks? I'm 76 and loving the rooting and romming of my Marlin. But now that I know it's not for old folks I guess I'll have to get rid of it and dig out the old Star-Tac.

Pixel 2 XL or something else

So, it's about that time. I have a Nexus 6p, and it's dog slow, so I really need a new phone. I'm on VZW, and they're having a 50% off sale, so I'm pretty seriously considering the 2 XL. However, I've been hearing some not so great things about it, but also how if you get a good device, it's great.
So... Does anyone have any real world experience with it who can recommend it (or not)? And if not, is there another VZW phone you would recommend?
I'm not even necessarily going to be rooting this time around, so that's not a requirement, but having the option would be nice. Other than that, something with a similar screen size, I don't want to go back to a 5" device.
Thanks in advance guys, and happy Turkey day to my fellow Americans!

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So, it's about that time. I have a Nexus 6p, and it's dog slow, so I really need a new phone. I'm on VZW, and they're having a 50% off sale, so I'm pretty seriously considering the 2 XL. However, I've been hearing some not so great things about it, but also how if you get a good device, it's great.
So... Does anyone have any real world experience with it who can recommend it (or not)? And if not, is there another VZW phone you would recommend?
I'm not even necessarily going to be rooting this time around, so that's not a requirement, but having the option would be nice. Other than that, something with a similar screen size, I don't want to go back to a 5" device.
Thanks in advance guys, and happy Turkey day to my fellow Americans!
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I'm on Verizon and feel it's the best android device experience yet. I'd say get one and test drive it to make sure that's what you want but you surely won't be disappointed especially if your 6p is dog slow, these things are lightning fast. Happy turkey day!

sfreemanoh said:
So, it's about that time. I have a Nexus 6p, and it's dog slow, so I really need a new phone. I'm on VZW, and they're having a 50% off sale, so I'm pretty seriously considering the 2 XL. However, I've been hearing some not so great things about it, but also how if you get a good device, it's great.
So... Does anyone have any real world experience with it who can recommend it (or not)? And if not, is there another VZW phone you would recommend?
I'm not even necessarily going to be rooting this time around, so that's not a requirement, but having the option would be nice. Other than that, something with a similar screen size, I don't want to go back to a 5" device.
Thanks in advance guys, and happy Turkey day to my fellow Americans!
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Get an original Pixel XL. If you don't you'll probably end up getting one a month down the road anyway after you return the 2XL. The issues are real. I sent mine back for a refund and keep returning here hoping to see the issues are fixed so I can reorder but it seems to only get worse. Reasons I sent mine back for refund:
Blue screen I could live with. I actually liked the sRGB display and use it on the Pixel XL. Blue screen + Bluetooth disconnections, missed touches/touchscreen responsiveness, terrible audio while recording, and random reboots were the deciding factors. Sure, Google says they'll fix it in an update.. but when? No thanks, I'll wait.
I'll be holding out for a Pixel 3 if they release one after this mess and I definitely won't be one of first to buy one this time. I also came from a 6P and am very happy with the Pixel XL. Since you're on Verizon like I am there is not much else to choose from.
Whatever you choose, DO NOT BUY FROM VZW. If you do you will kick yourself later because you bought a locked bootloader that will never be unlocked.

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Get an original Pixel XL. If you don't you'll probably end up getting one a month down the road anyway after you return the 2XL. The issues are real. I sent mine back for a refund and keep returning here hoping to see the issues are fixed so I can reorder but it seems to only get worse. Reasons I sent mine back for refund:
Blue screen I could live with. I actually liked the sRGB display and use it on the Pixel XL. Blue screen + Bluetooth disconnections, missed touches/touchscreen responsiveness, terrible audio while recording, and random reboots were the deciding factors. Sure, Google says they'll fix it in an update.. but when? No thanks, I'll wait.
I'll be holding out for a Pixel 3 if they release one after this mess and I definitely won't be one of first to buy one this time. I also came from a 6P and am very happy with the Pixel XL. Since you're on Verizon like I am there is not much else to choose from.
Whatever you choose, DO NOT BUY FROM VZW. If you do you will kick yourself later because you bought a locked bootloader that will never be unlocked.
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So, I actually ended up getting one on Black Friday, and the only issue I have with it is the missed touches. And yeah, that's HELLA annoying, and it happens all the time. But I listen to podcasts whenever I'm in my car, and I've had zero BT disconnects, and zero reboots. I don't do any audio recording though, so I can't comment on that. And about 2 weeks into it, I'm honestly not even missing root. I barely used it for the last 1-2 years on my Nexus 6P, and going from that to never using it on my 2 XL isn't much of a change.

sfreemanoh said:
So, I actually ended up getting one on Black Friday, and the only issue I have with it is the missed touches. And yeah, that's HELLA annoying, and it happens all the time. But I listen to podcasts whenever I'm in my car, and I've had zero BT disconnects, and zero reboots. I don't do any audio recording though, so I can't comment on that. And about 2 weeks into it, I'm honestly not even missing root. I barely used it for the last 1-2 years on my Nexus 6P, and going from that to never using it on my 2 XL isn't much of a change.
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Are you on 8.0 or 8.1? I was having extreme reboots, but as soon as I reset factor and updated to 8.1 I haven't had any reboots or missed touches, and the recording quality is fixed in 8.1.

razer or op5t?

Usually, I don't really like topics like this.... But now I need your opinions, guys!
Accidentally smashed my op3 and now I need a new toy.
Already watched a massive amount of videos on YouTube about the razer phone. Love the style, the shape.
However, I'm still can't decide.
Razer or OP5T?
I'm waiting for your thoughts, opinions, etc.
Thanks in advance.

i had the razer phone i sent it back less than a week, dont get me wrong love the retro metallic build and speakers. but the software seems unfinished and non optimised. the screen as fluid as it is @ 120hz just cannot compare to the OP5T in vibrancy and the screen on the RP is just shockingly too dim (even the Nokia phones have brighter LCD Screens). the op5t just feels more polished and its software more snappy. I really REALLY REALLYYYYYYY wanted to like the Razer Phone, but OP5T just seems to me a much better overall package having used both. This is totes subjective of course ...

Gave away my s8 plus and got the Razer. Love it exept for the camera. Se what they will to when oreo hits. But If I where you i would go with 5T.

QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning

iStasis said:
QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning
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Yepp and still isn't any good in my opinion, sadly.

I've got both infront of me currently, struggling to decide.
Unfortunately the 5T is giving me a bit of trouble recently.
The others are right, the RP screen is absolutely darker than others, roughly 60% of the 5T brightness and colours can seem a little washed out due to AMOLED vs LCD.
Battery life isn't anything to shout about either really and don't get me started on the camera! jeez.
Lastly, and this might come as a shock, the 5T puts out more decibels than the razer phone, the last update really undermined the volume and now my 5T has about 15% more volume, not clearer of course, but yeh.
All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".

The one thing I don't like about the display is that it is "sunken". Nowadays most displays the glass and the picture are together, like you're literally touching the pictures. But on the Razer, you can tell that the picture is below the glass, which is weird as I haven't seen that in phones in the past 3 to 4 years at least. Not sure if I explained that correctly, but that's a con to me. I think mkhbd mentioned this in the preview video

I'm thinking about buy the phone to replace my LG V10 battery life pretty much bad on it and LG pressing trying me to buy a battery for it but they not selling it them from the website

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All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".
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LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.

after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.

Roxas598 said:
after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.

hunhool said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.
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you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)

Roxas598 said:
you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)
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Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.

hunhool said:
Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.
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You're right the development portion of the device is lacking on here but the company do bi weekly ask me anything on the subreddit so they're very vocal. If I'm honest the lack of support imo is because of the A/B partition (something the razer has) and the lack of sales due to it costing so much on release. Now it's went down and essential are implementing project treble it might get better via custom ROMs
But again that's not very important to me anymore.

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LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.
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Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.

xocomaox said:
Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.
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Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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greyhulk said:
Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.

xocomaox said:
Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.
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I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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greyhulk said:
I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.

xocomaox said:
No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.
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I couldn't agree more. Yet every time I go into a store and play with one of the new iPads, I nearly pull the trigger for that 120hz display. I think if it was at least brighter, there would be no hesitation.
No way I can view 400 nits outside in a Texas summer, though.
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