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So it's time to change my old phone to the new one. I want to buy Pixel 2 XL but I'm so frightened because this phone has launched with a poor screen quality. Did someone buy this phone in february or in march and could tell me something about Pixel 2's blue-shift, burn-in or grain?
I think the screen it's good I don't have a lot of blue shift, but I think you must pay attention to the 4gb of ram , I have 4 mobiles and 3 of them are 4 and 3 GB of ram and they suffer a lot on multitasking.
And now I have a one plus 5t with 6gb of ram and that's much better.
By the phones are , Google pixel 2 xl, s8+ , ipx .
But the rest you're be good with pixel 2 XL , speed , fast updates, by the way the android P its right on the corner
I purchased the pixel 2 xl 15 days ago and yes, it has blue shift, but no more defects or burn in. My aunt has a S8 and I'd recommend the pixel 2 over the S8.
In my opinion, blue shift is overrated. Burn in issues seemed to be solved. Only the first batch at launch seem to be affected. Plus Google gives you a 2 year warranty so that should give you some peace of mind.
My girlfriend has the iPhone X and my roommate has the Note8. I highly recommend the Pixel 2 XL over both the phones.
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In my opinion, blue shift is overrated. Burn in issues seemed to be solved. Only the first batch at launch seem to be affected. Plus Google gives you a 2 year warranty so that should give you some peace of mind.
My girlfriend has the iPhone X and my roommate has the Note8. I highly recommend the Pixel 2 XL over both the phones.
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Agreed about the blue shift. Way over criticized. I only notice it when... I read someone post something about it then I go look, say to myself, yep, its there, then continue on like nothing at all.
However, if I was buying a phone right now, I would hold off until I can hold the S9+ in my hands. With most sites saying its just a refreshed S8+ I would prolly pass and stay with Pixel.
This phone is top notch. Switched from the S8+. No looking back.
I'll weigh in:
I just got mine last week (third week of Feb '18) via a Best Buy deal. The phone was built in Oct of '17. I was coming from a Note5 which I really loved.
Lots of things to like, a few things to niggle naggle about and a few things to really hate.
Likes:
Oreo 8.1+
Squeeze Assistant
Fingerprint reader gestures
Google Lens - It's amazing.
Camera. Just wow.
Lots of things you can customize without root (via ADB)... You can move the nav buttons around, etc...
Battery life is simply great. I get 4+ hours of screen time and can go 8+ hours while sleeping and only loose a percentage or two. It's quite amazing actually.
Dislikes:
Not a fan of the fingerprint reader on the back... to use it, you always have to pick up the phone... on other models where the reader is on the front, you can unlock the phone while it's flat on the table or work desk or whatever. Having it on the back does have some upsides though... so this one isn't a big deal.
Not a fan of the power button and volume keys all being on the same side and so close together... I find myself pressing one when I mean the other.
Rounded corners on the screens... seems like a good idea aesthetically but you actually loose a fair amount of real estate... for example, the status bar icons are moved in a fair amount to compensate for the rounded corners so you get a lot of black space to the left and right of the ends in the status bar... I would never sacrifice function for form like that. Dumb.
Blue shift. It's there... not a big deal but it's there.
Hate:
Extremely long charging times. Just to go from 90 to 100% is like an hour++. This is in NO way a quick charging phone.
No charging LED indicator. Boo. I did load an app for that but Boo.
No wireless charging. Boo and boo.
Double Hate:
Screen protectors are a nightmare with this device. I've never had such issues finding decent, inexpensive protector that doesn't curl, bubble, etc... and I can't find any quality tempered glass protectors. There are a couple liquid adhesive protectors out there but they cost 1 arm and 1 leg. Really?
I'm really hoping the charging time issue can be fixed in a future OS update. It seems that this started happening after the Feb '18 update. We'll see.
I was going to give mine to try an iPhone X and then to come back to pixel but i have felt in love with this device.. Blue shift exists a little bit but I had forget that issue.. I agree with the charging time that sucks from 90-100% but overall it's an fantastic device.. On mine i have deleted nav bar, i use only gestures and its a pleasure all this huge screen with these nice rounded corners..
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I was going to give mine to try an iPhone X and then to come back to pixel but i have felt in love with this device.. Blue shift exists a little bit but I had forget that issue.. I agree with the charging time that sucks from 90-100% but overall it's an fantastic device.. On mine i have deleted nav bar, i use only gestures and its a pleasure all this huge screen with these nice rounded corners..
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
UPDATE: Oh, I guess in Nova you can just turn the nav bar off. Will it allow for all the proper gestures for recents, back, home?
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Yes I am rooted. I am using nova launcher but it doesn't matter. I used all in one gestures app from play store. The nav bar hide automatically if you don't use it. You can set it on premesive mode threw app. But now i have deleted at all nav bar with an command on build editor and i use only gestures.
Here I made a video month ago how I had it and how will work. (now it's totally different )
https://youtu.be/BA7jey09SXw
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Yes I am rooted. I am using nova launcher but it doesn't matter. I used all in one gestures app from play store. The nav bar hide automatically if you don't use it. You can set it on premesive mode threw app. But now i have deleted at all nav bar with an command on build editor and i use only gestures.
Here I made a video month ago how I had it and how will work. (now it's totally different )
https://youtu.be/BA7jey09SXw
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Thx!
I purchased mine 3 weeks ago, it was produced in November 2017, and the screen doesn't have any of all the issues reported right and left.
It has a very slight blue tint maybe when you look at it at an angle... but you know what? My Galaxy S7 edge has it too. AMOLED displays HAVE blue shift, no technology is perfect.
I'm pretty happy with mine. I'm far from being your typical Google/Nexus/Pixel apologist, but after having Samsung flagship phones for years, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL is the best phone I've ever owned :good:
It doesn't have all the bells and whistles a Galaxy or Note has, but it works so great, without any issue. Everything with this phone feels silky smooth, without a single dropped frame. Everything you try to run looks "effortless" and easy for the Pixel. I'm amazed by that phone
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
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You don't have to root to get rid of the nav bar. There is a Substratum theme that changes the nav bar to any size you want including 0. I found it here on XDA. I'll see if I can find it and link to it when I get home.
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Here is a link for the nav bar height
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...-height-changer-android-nougat-t3447956/page1
and here is one I use to fix the lock screen swipe issue
https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-lock-screen-swipe-gesture-issues-android-81-oreo/
I just sold my 7 plus and received my pixel 2 xl yesterday. The blue shift isn't bad, it's only noticable to the person on the side of you looking at your screen. Screen quality doesn't seem bad but colors may be dull to some. There is a Oreo colorizer app that will force the display in wide color gamut mode which richens up the color. Google does offer a new vivid saturated display mode but that app works way better. Only thing I don't like is how Snapchat looks like poo.. which it does on every Android but yeah.. this is probably the best camera quality you will get on Snapchat Android due to visual core enhancing the photos which does a pretty damn good job!
On a cold rainy cloudy dark Washington day, camera doesn't look as nice as what my iPhone 7 plus would've took with it's camera..
Hello all,
I'm currently rocking a Pixel XL and I'm absolutely itching for an upgrade. I'm also a Project Fi user, which limits my choices on which phones I can use. I love the performance of my Pixel XL, along with the vanilla Android experience. Unfortunately, my Pixel XL purchase was a bit of a rushed decision due to me breaking my Nexus 5X the day before I took a road trip. I ran out to Best Buy and snagged this phone, which, while it's a great device, is a bit too wide of a phone for my liking. One handed use is a bit cumbersome. Not a dealbreaker, I don't regret my purchase one bit, but now that I'm looking to upgrade, I'd like to get something a bit smaller. Last year I helped a family member of mine phone shop and they landed on the LG G6. Even though it has a bigger screen than my PXL (6.0" > 5.5") it felt smaller in the hands, which I really liked. So, when Project Fi announced that the LG G7 ThinQ was coming to their network, I was naturally very curious.
Things that appeal to me about this phone
Headphone Jack (with the Quad DAC)
SD Card Slot
Loud Speakers
Bright Screen
Wireless Charging
Better Screen-to-Body ratio while remaining slightly smaller than my current phone.
Detractors
Skinned OS (No app drawer?)
Small(er) battery
Less-than-stellar Camera
Non-OLED screen
I would've pulled the trigger already but I'm also curious about the new Pixel phones being released 3-4 months from now. From leaked information it looks like the new XL will be too big of a phone, but the regular Pixel 3 is supposed to be nearly what I'd consider a perfect size (much like my N5X was). Other than that we don't know too much about the new phones to know whether or not they'll be worth waiting for but I'm willing to wager there will be a huge price tag associated with them. So I'm still very much on the fence.
So, I figured some input from former Pixel or Nexus owners who have moved on to this device would prove to be very helpful in my purchase decision.
Any input is appreciated, Thanks!
I have had the N5X, pixel, pixel xl, pixel 2 xl, and like you prefer AOSP. I have found the G7 to be acceptable through use of nova launcher with the companion app for Google now. I also like the ability to have themes, I have found a material black theme that is very well done and a whole lot better than the bright colors of AOSP.
The battery has been a little inconsistent for me but seems to have settled down, now easily getting me through a long day. The camera is no pixel, although the wide angle is neat. Overall I like the g7 over the pixel 2 xl or pixel, although my dream phone would be an essential phone 2 (assuming the problems with the ph1 were solved) as even the g7 is a bit bigger than I want.
As far as "unthemed" Android phones go, I had the Nexus S, Moto X, Nexus 4, and Nexus 6P before getting the G7. I was hoping to wait for the Pixel 3 or potentially the Motorola One Power with AndroidOne, but since the volume rocker on my 6P was damaged (and the battery life was declining fast), I grabbed the G7 deal on Verizon. One thing I will say is if I was not on Verizon, I almost certainly would have picked up a OnePlus 6 instead. That being said, to address your detractor points:
Skinned OS - the built-in launcher DOES have an app drawer version, it's just not set by default. Otherwise, I've been using Lawnchair V2 that has Google Feed integration without a companion app.
Small(er) battery - haven't had any problems with battery life so far; I usually end the day anywhere between 50% (low usage) and 20% (extremely high usage). However, I would be surprised if anyone was able to consistently hit two days between charges.
Less-than-stellar camera - I'm not very picky on the camera, but I have noticed it is just a hair slower to open than my wife's Galaxy S8 (using double-tap power button). Image quality is good; I'd say it's better than my 6P was. I never use the AI Cam. The wide-angle lens is neat, but I haven't found a lot of use for it in day-to-day pictures.
Non-OLED screen - I haven't noticed this as much as I thought I would, even with Ambient Display turned on. The times that I do notice the LCD display is just before bed, if the lights are all off and Ambient Display hasn't turned off (I set mine to turn off from 11:00pm - 6:00am), you can see some light coming from the black portions of the screen. Overall, not a dealbreaker for me.
I'll add a few more points regarding the skinned OS concern:
The phone app is the most annoying part of the skin. I miss Google Dialer, and it's actually an app I use very regularly.
Lots of bloatware. I disabled/uninstalled almost everything, and replaced a lot with Google's apps (e.g., Calendar, Messages).
Settings is another heavily modified portion of the OS. However, in this case, I actually like LG's tabbed settings; I think it's more intuitive to navigate.
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I have had the N5X, pixel, pixel xl, pixel 2 xl, and like you prefer AOSP. I have found the G7 to be acceptable through use of nova launcher with the companion app for Google now. I also like the ability to have themes, I have found a material black theme that is very well done and a whole lot better than the bright colors of AOSP.
The battery has been a little inconsistent for me but seems to have settled down, now easily getting me through a long day. The camera is no pixel, although the wide angle is neat. Overall I like the g7 over the pixel 2 xl or pixel, although my dream phone would be an essential phone 2 (assuming the problems with the ph1 were solved) as even the g7 is a bit bigger than I want.
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Themes are a huge plus. The eye-murdering bright white "Material" design is getting old very fast. As for the camera, I'm not a huge picture guy, but I do still find myself quite impressed with my Pixel's camera whenever I snap a quick photo. Would you say that you don't quite have the same reaction when taking pictures with your G7?
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As far as "unthemed" Android phones go, I had the Nexus S, Moto X, Nexus 4, and Nexus 6P before getting the G7. I was hoping to wait for the Pixel 3 or potentially the Motorola One Power with AndroidOne, but since the volume rocker on my 6P was damaged (and the battery life was declining fast), I grabbed the G7 deal on Verizon. One thing I will say is if I was not on Verizon, I almost certainly would have picked up a OnePlus 6 instead. That being said, to address your detractor points:
Skinned OS - the built-in launcher DOES have an app drawer version, it's just not set by default. Otherwise, I've been using Lawnchair V2 that has Google Feed integration without a companion app.
Small(er) battery - haven't had any problems with battery life so far; I usually end the day anywhere between 50% (low usage) and 20% (extremely high usage). However, I would be surprised if anyone was able to consistently hit two days between charges.
Less-than-stellar camera - I'm not very picky on the camera, but I have noticed it is just a hair slower to open than my wife's Galaxy S8 (using double-tap power button). Image quality is good; I'd say it's better than my 6P was. I never use the AI Cam. The wide-angle lens is neat, but I haven't found a lot of use for it in day-to-day pictures.
Non-OLED screen - I haven't noticed this as much as I thought I would, even with Ambient Display turned on. The times that I do notice the LCD display is just before bed, if the lights are all off and Ambient Display hasn't turned off (I set mine to turn off from 11:00pm - 6:00am), you can see some light coming from the black portions of the screen. Overall, not a dealbreaker for me.
I'll add a few more points regarding the skinned OS concern:
The phone app is the most annoying part of the skin. I miss Google Dialer, and it's actually an app I use very regularly.
Lots of bloatware. I disabled/uninstalled almost everything, and replaced a lot with Google's apps (e.g., Calendar, Messages).
Settings is another heavily modified portion of the OS. However, in this case, I actually like LG's tabbed settings; I think it's more intuitive to navigate.
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Appreciate the detailed reply!
Looks like you've echoed much of what reviewers have said as well in regards to battery life and camera. As I stated above, Camera quality isn't os the utmost importance but I do really like a fast shutter speed and I enjoy when a regular picture I take comes out great thanks to the sensor in my Pixel. If the G7 isn't capable of this, that will be a bit of a letdown, but not necessarily a dealbreaker. Backlight bleed is kind of expected with an IPS panel, it shouldn't be much of an issue. I do like that it gets extremely bright for daytime use. I totally forgot about third party launchers, which would alleviate my concerns about the lack of an app drawer or anything else almost completely. It's disappointing to hear about the bloatware, but at least you can disable or uninstall most of it and use the Google alternatives if need be.
It sounds like I should wait to see if Root and Bootloader Unlocking becomes a thing on the US version of this phone. If I could snag this device, unlock, root it, and flash an AOSP ROM I'd be very tempted to pull the trigger. These things take time, and time I have. The Pixels aren't being released until the end of October to begin with.
with substratum and andromeda i was able to theme the whole system black, including notifications. theming not an issue.
no camera will be as good as google's software allows the pixel to be. if you want the best camera, stick with pixel. everything else is second, including samsung and apple.
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with substratum and andromeda i was able to theme the whole system black, including notifications. theming not an issue.
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Another option if you don't want to use Substratum and Andromeda and are willing to pay a couple bucks: there is a thread with apps by NNG (I think?) that uses the LG theme engine that has a pretty good dark material/Pixel theme. I'm too lazy right now to use Andromeda (I know, I know...) but may go back and give it a shot if I get tired of the LG theme.
One more data point: the camera is still much, MUCH faster than my Nexus 6P was near the end of its life, so it's been a huge step up for me. Something that I did notice and have seen mentioned a couple times elsewhere is that certain photo modes take a little more time to save the picture. I've lost 2 food pictures this way when I closed the camera to quickly after using food mode and snapping a picture. Make sure you give it some time! I haven't noticed this when using the auto mode though (have not tired with AI cam or other modes).
Ok your pros list is spot on with this phone speaker and dac are phenomenal, I'll try to clear up the cons no OLED does suck but it's honestly not that bad. it's a really good display and gets bright as hell, the camera is pretty good (I do some photography in my spare time but to broke to get a real camera) probably not as good as a pixel but it holds it own I'd say give it some time it will probably get a Gcam port (hopefully) battery has been great I haven't had any problems. The skinned OS, LG UX isn't the best but it's not that bad and after throwing on a launcher on it I haven't had a problem. I hope I was able to give some insight if you have any questions feel free to PM me
I appreciate all of the feedback I've received so far. I might pull the trigger on this phone next week. Project Fi is now offering a $300 service credit when purchasing and activating this phone from them. This makes it very hard to wait for the Pixel 3 lol.
Had a pixel 2. It somehow ended up with the OS corrupted, and it was all stock. Last google device I'll ever buy. Went with a G7 nd have not looked back.
Nubwy said:
Had a pixel 2. It somehow ended up with the OS corrupted, and it was all stock. Last google device I'll ever buy. Went with a G7 nd have not looked back.
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Glad to hear. I haven't had a non-Pixel or Nexus device in a long time. Ordered the G7 yesterday so I'm hoping I'm as happy as you all are with this device.
Former Pixel\Nexus guy here. With Bloaty LG stuff, some are able to disable, some are not like Contacts, Messaging, Calendar, Clock. I just put the Pixel 3 Rootless Launcher and works just well. This version of G7 actually lets you select which LG stuff you want from the phone setup process.
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Former Pixel\Nexus guy here. With Bloaty LG stuff, some are able to disable, some are not like Contacts, Messaging, Calendar, Clock. I just put the Pixel 3 Rootless Launcher and works just well. This version of G7 actually lets you select which LG stuff you want from the phone setup process.
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Sorry for the thread necro, but does anybody have a writeup about disabling the stock apps? I'm coming from using the Google versions of most stuff, and would be happy to ignore the LG stuff and keep using the Google ones -- but not so happy if I have to pick the right identically-named icon every time, and maybe get double notifications, "which app should I open this with" prompts, etc etc. I'd just as soon uninstall / disable them completely.
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Sorry for the thread necro, but does anybody have a writeup about disabling the stock apps? I'm coming from using the Google versions of most stuff, and would be happy to ignore the LG stuff and keep using the Google ones -- but not so happy if I have to pick the right identically-named icon every time, and maybe get double notifications, "which app should I open this with" prompts, etc etc. I'd just as soon uninstall / disable them completely.
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There's a thread about package disabler pro (lg)
I found one thread, with "it work I am using it" and not much else. Last night, I think I managed to "disable" the built-in calendar just by turning off its permission for calendar access -- it might keep its own local calendar data but as long as I'm not using it, I don't think it's going to bother me. Same with their mail client. I was also able to totally delete the preinstalled Facebook and Instagram (eww). Their Contacts, Calendar, and Clock apps seem fine (and actually pretty similar to stock) so I'll probably just keep using them. I'm on the fence about keeping the stock launcher, but I don't need a special lock-down / uninstall procedure to do that.
Alcolawl said:
Hello all,
I'm currently rocking a Pixel XL and I'm absolutely itching for an upgrade. I'm also a Project Fi user, which limits my choices on which phones I can use. I love the performance of my Pixel XL, along with the vanilla Android experience. Unfortunately, my Pixel XL purchase was a bit of a rushed decision due to me breaking my Nexus 5X the day before I took a road trip. I ran out to Best Buy and snagged this phone, which, while it's a great device, is a bit too wide of a phone for my liking. One handed use is a bit cumbersome. Not a dealbreaker, I don't regret my purchase one bit, but now that I'm looking to upgrade, I'd like to get something a bit smaller. Last year I helped a family member of mine phone shop and they landed on the LG G6. Even though it has a bigger screen than my PXL (6.0" > 5.5") it felt smaller in the hands, which I really liked. So, when Project Fi announced that the LG G7 ThinQ was coming to their network, I was naturally very curious.
Things that appeal to me about this phone
Headphone Jack (with the Quad DAC)
SD Card Slot
Loud Speakers
Bright Screen
Wireless Charging
Better Screen-to-Body ratio while remaining slightly smaller than my current phone.
Detractors
Skinned OS (No app drawer?)
Small(er) battery
Less-than-stellar Camera
Non-OLED screen
I would've pulled the trigger already but I'm also curious about the new Pixel phones being released 3-4 months from now. From leaked information it looks like the new XL will be too big of a phone, but the regular Pixel 3 is supposed to be nearly what I'd consider a perfect size (much like my N5X was). Other than that we don't know too much about the new phones to know whether or not they'll be worth waiting for but I'm willing to wager there will be a huge price tag associated with them. So I'm still very much on the fence.
So, I figured some input from former Pixel or Nexus owners who have moved on to this device would prove to be very helpful in my purchase decision.
Any input is appreciated, Thanks!
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If you're interested in this phone just wait for the G8, it still has a skinned OS but you could always install pixel launcher and it would have an app drawer, battery is pretty big I think 3,500 mah, camera won't be as good as the newest pixel but with a gcam port you should be able to pull off some really good shots. The G8 has an OLED screen
if you HAD to pick one Negative about the phone, what would it be?
amongst the list of things i don't like, i must choose the one thing i use every single day, multiple times a day.
the POWER Button.
my previous device (huawei mate 20x), had a taught power button which didn't wiggle around, satisfying click when pressed, and for a bonus, textured and colored.
the Fold: aside from failing to combine the Power button and the Fingerprint Scanner, the power button on the Fold is just like any other Galaxy device: cheap, thin, loose, and mushy to press.
anyone else have something that erks them using the phone daily?
I have problems with the fingerprint reader. I misplace my finger a lot. I miss FaceID it was so much smoother.
I don't use the button. I double tap the screen instead.
The front screen sucks. I can't text, email on it. It's so small. I love My fold, but the front screen kills me!
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It's a tablet on the inside but all my apps act like phone apps and not built for the tablet.
gman901 said:
It's a tablet on the inside but all my apps act like phone apps and not built for the tablet.
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Change your dpi / minimal width, then you'll get tablet ui
Thanks, it worked for a lot of my apps except Flipboard. For some reason it keeps acting like a phone app even when I set it to 952 dpi.
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The front screen sucks. I can't text, email on it. It's so small. I love My fold, but the front screen kills me!
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here is something almost everyone doesn't think about when wishing for an edge to edge, top to bottom, front display:
how much imbalance it would create on the phone. one handed use would be completely be gone.
- for someone not using a launcher: reaching up top to swipe down notification shade
- whether using standard navigation buttons, or using edge swiping: imagine reaching all the way down just to hit he navigation area
- people who use swipe one handed for text, it actually is perfect ergonomically the way it is now.
- not everyone has big hands
during and even before the Fold presentation almost a year ago, everyone was criticizing the front screen size without thinking about it in depth, and people STILL criticize it in newer videos, made 2 or 3 months ago.
all they see is bezel and think "its 2019/2020, wtf are we doing with huge bezels?!?!?"
i hope samsung doesn't listen to all these brainless people moaning and groaning about screen to body ratio % in their next folding tablet device.
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What DPI did you set it too?
Jeshter2000 said:
What DPI did you set it too?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/tablet-mode-t4040217
see this thread.
good luck!
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What DPI did you set it too?
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here is something almost everyone doesn't think about when wishing for an edge to edge, top to bottom, front display:
how much imbalance it would create on the phone. one handed use would be completely be gone.
- for someone not using a launcher: reaching up top to swipe down notification shade
- whether using standard navigation buttons, or using edge swiping: imagine reaching all the way down just to hit he navigation area
- people who use swipe one handed for text, it actually is perfect ergonomically the way it is now.
- not everyone has big hands
during and even before the Fold presentation almost a year ago, everyone was criticizing the front screen size without thinking about it in depth, and people STILL criticize it in newer videos, made 2 or 3 months ago.
all they see is bezel and think "its 2019/2020, wtf are we doing with huge bezels?!?!?"
i hope samsung doesn't listen to all these brainless people moaning and groaning about screen to body ratio % in their next folding tablet device.
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Actually the front screen doesn't have to be all the front, but it definitely needs to be wider. It's just to narrow to write fast and without issues. It works, but it's cumbersome. I mostly swipe or dictate because typing is too annoying ?
To your main question, one thing I hate about the Fold:
There are some things which could be better, like the fingerprint reader integrated into the power button, no notch, S-Pen support, wider front screen, glass screen, IP ratings, faster charging (like Note10+) and much much more... but there's just 1 thing which really annoys me: the selfie cameras. They're all ****ty. Even compared to S7 until Note10+ it's just ****. The can't focus on something you tap. All Samsung flagships can do it. It's so ****ty I don't take any selfies anymore. Even using GCam doesn't change anything because it's a hardware thing. To be honest, they could have added the Note10 selfie cam on the small front and no other cameras. They could also remove the notch since the cameras are very bad ?
Got my Sunny Yellow one delivered this morning so been playing with it most of the day. Initial impressions are very good, some are listed below. Feel free to list your own.
The fingerprint scanner was a little off but after an update came in i deleted my fingerprints and re-did them and its been fine ever since. Couple of times it hasnt worked but i think thats because the screen is so smooth/slippery that my thumb slipped on the screen as it was trying to read it.
I dont have a 5g plan or even 5g signal where i am to test but so far 4g speeds are exactly the same as my pixel 2xl and oppo reno 2 ive come from.
I dont really like having the "internet" tile, id prefer having them seperate the wifi and mobile data tab. Just seems strange to add a further click to enable/disable wifi when i want to instead of just hitting the tab.
On the home screen if you make a folder then the apps slightly overhang the edge of the circle which just looks odd to me, i wish they were all within the folder.
I wish there was an option of disabling the big clock on the lock screen. I have a picture of my partner on my lock screen and when picking up the phone id rather see her than her face covered by a huge clock
The phone got very hot when setting up and transferring apps/data from my old phone but has been fine since.
I love the screen and how smooth everything flows. I dont see any issue with brightness personally. Ill see how battery life performs over the coming days
Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
The rounded edge screen is pretty terrible. There are optical distortions along the sides. The radius of the edge should be reduced to around 1 mm.
A little more width on the screen would be nice. This is 71.5mm. Nexus 6 was 74, which was a lot nicer. 80 would be a dream.
A little bit of border around the screen would also be nice so you have somewhere to actually hold the thing. Function should be paramount, not form, and especially not goofy/ugly form like these have. A bit of border above the screen would make space to get the camera out of the screen instead of the ugly hole. I also hate the rounded corners on the screen. Software rounded corners are ok, because you can disable them, there is no reason to force it with paint on the inside surface of the glass.
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The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
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feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
Love it so far, so fast and fluid. As mentioned above it gets real hot, and was still discharging while using old pixel charger.
Camera is amazing the details captured are stunning.
Phone is very slippery to hold and would be easy to drop with the top weight of the camera hump. Tried to buy a case for grip and protection, and was told that they can until tomorrow because that was the day the phone was supposed to be delivered, but because of our crap postal service they sent a day early so that people would or should get them by that date
Real time translation works very well, even with the new update still seems a little buggy
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
I could buy pixel charger which I might take back because it doesn't seem to charge an faster.
My wireless car charger for the pixel 4xl charges this phone at about the same speed as the old wall charger, need to see if it throttles for heat though..
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feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
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I agree, but it also would be heavy
This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
danw_oz said:
I agree, but it also would be heavy
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There as a day when heavy meant PREMIUM and light meant junk.
My laptop (lenovo), not even old, actually had some weights added into it to make it feel more substantial.
And so what if its a little heavier as long as it isn't burdensome. You can easily carry around several pounds without it being burdensome.
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This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
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If you were referring to the rounded CORNERS, there will be kind-of software solutions for the rounded corners. Right now you can run "wm size 1440x2890" to reduce the display area (persistently). This brings the display area past the camera hole and past the rounded corners. Now normally, there would be a system property available to adjust the corners, however this one has multi-radius corners which are set in a config for systemui, therefore will actually require a rebuild from source to fix, but once that is unset, it should have square corners.
However the side effect of course, will be a slightly smaller display area. Still wider than the non-Pro, but less than it is now. Not that you need all that height for any practical purpose.
And for that matter, you could use the same "wm size" command to reduce the display width to work around the rounded edges. "wm size 1300x3120" pulls the display area all the way into the flat part and eliminates the optical distortions. You could probably establish a better balance that lets it in just a little bit and probably gives the same width as the non-Pro.
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Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
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Nova Launcher was crashing for me but it seemed to be a clock widget I had previously and it wasn't displaying it.
I deleted the widget and rebooted the phone and it has been perfect since and all day today.
My screen now looks like my 3XL only longer, faster, smoother
I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
Thanks for the tip on Nova, might rebuild my screen from scratch with it too ID the issue. The pixel launcher without some custom apps and grid sizes is a bit of a jarring experience. Search at the bottom is all wrong too.
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I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
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settings, display, lock screen, turn off "always show time and info"
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Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
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Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Have you gotten the small 70 MB Android update yet? Mine was buggy with Nova Launcher Prime, in particular, but after the update, all good.
I like the fingerprint reader better than the ultrasonic in my Note 10+. It's working much better and faster for me so far. Here's hoping that stays true.
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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id suggest resetting then. Working fine for most people
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Could you describe what you mean by "buggy as hell"?
wekebu said:
Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
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Search play for high brightness mode or HBM software by @flar2 an amazing kernal and software developer
According to Goggle I have a defective unit and they are going to swap it out
Hello everyone,
I was wondering is there a way in increase the sensitivity on the edges of the screen or disable the palm rejection feature with APK on the pixel 6 pro?
I'm having a difficult time hitting certain ticks or cues on the edges of the screen when using certain apps. I've found myself having to purposefully aim slightly to the left or right depending on which side of the screen I am on.
Thanks for any input!
Hi esoplayer,
What kind of navigation do you use on your phone? Gestures, or the navigation bar. I was wondering if it was the gesture navigation that was getting in the way, possibly. I use gestures too, now, but I stuck with the navigation bar before I got my P6P.
Hey RoirraW,
I started with the gestures, but I found myself having to reach too far sometimes with my thumb in one handed use, or I would be swiping in a photo app and cause the back function to trigger.
I am currently using the navigation bar because of that, and it's also what I'm used to using coming from using the galaxy line of phones.
I thought that would clear it up too, but it's still giving me some troubles when trying to interact close to the fold of the edge screen.
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I thought that would clear it up too, but it's still giving me some troubles when trying to interact close to the fold of the edge screen.
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I see, well that's one possibility eliminated. For what it's worth, using my P6P in an OtterBox Defender case, I assumed my occasional trouble at the sides of the screen (but not that often) was because of the curve combined with the edge of the case, but maybe not.
Yeah I have the same issue and my case is not the culprit for sure, the screen edge does not respond to clicks even most times scrolling can be very frustrating if your trying to scroll to a very specific spot, very often I have to click or press that part of the screen 3-4 times before it registers
esoplayer said:
Hello everyone,
I was wondering is there a way in increase the sensitivity on the edges of the screen or disable the palm rejection feature with APK on the pixel 6 pro?
I'm having a difficult time hitting certain ticks or cues on the edges of the screen when using certain apps. I've found myself having to purposefully aim slightly to the left or right depending on which side of the screen I am on.
Thanks for any input!
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There is a bug that has been appearing since Feb with the Pixel 6 Pro. I experienced it a few months ago when re-flashing stock (it's an AOSP bug that has also appeared in custom ROMs).
This bug makes an invisible border around all edges (about 1 inch). When you long press on say the outer edges of Gboard (say numbers 1 and 0, q and p), do you experience issues?
Palm rejection has never been great on Pixels. It's decent, but it's not great. It's an old problem of Android (even though Samsung has it worked out mostly), plus Windows laptops also struggle with that. Only products I've seen yet with decent palm rejection are IPads.
Hmmm, perhaps this is a hit or miss issue amongst different apps as I rarely experience this problem. IIRC, I think I have experienced it in the Outlook app and haven't noticed it in any other applications. Weird...