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[Q]How bright are your touch keys?

Are they bright or dim? I remember my first Note 3 had brighter touch keys than the one I'm currently using. This kind of bothers me but I don't want to make any decisions just yet because the Note 3's are very inconsistent and I don't want another with more problems and find out all Note 3 have dim buttons. :silly:
Edit: Pictures added. This 5mp camera on my LG-v909 does no justice haha but as you can see its very low. The touch keys are brighter in the photos but IRL they look very dark and washed out.

lm that guy said:
Are they bright or dim? I remember my first Note 3 had brighter touch keys than the one I'm currently using. This kind of bothers me but I don't want to make any decisions just yet because the Note 3's are very inconsistent and I don't want another with more problems and find out all Note 3 have dim buttons. :silly:
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Can you possibly post a pic so we can see what you are talking about? Never known keys to have lighting issues

dragonstalker said:
Can you possibly post a pic so we can see what you are talking about? Never known keys to have lighting issues
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Hey, sorry for the delay, pictures added

lm that guy said:
Hey, sorry for the delay, pictures added
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Looks pretty much normal to me. I'm no lighting expert, but looks the same as mine giving it's pics and not side by side.

Not sure how you would be able to rate this without having two phones side by side to know for sure unless it was a drastic difference.
I can't see anything wrong with the images you posted, look normal to me.

It looks normal to me to. I sort of feel like other Galaxy devices were brighter. The note looks good either way though.
Also, if they were brighter they would probably be more annoying/noticeable. I think I remember looking down at them on the Note II a lot more.

The white is really bright, the black is dimmer. Its the same on all of them in my experience.

aooga said:
The white is really bright, the black is dimmer. Its the same on all of them in my experience.
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I tend to agree with this. My GSII was black, and they weren't that bright, but my Note 3 is white, and they are so bright it makes the screen look dim when they are on even with the screen brightness at 50%. Forget at night. They blind me! LOL

I disabled them on my white Note 3 as they shine bright and bleed quite a bit.
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CalcProgrammer1 said:
I disabled them on my white Note 3 as they shine bright and bleed quite a bit.
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Ah yes. I forgot to mention that. Bad bleeding. The whole area around them light up.

bobbyphoenix said:
Ah yes. I forgot to mention that. Bad bleeding. The whole area around them light up.
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Yeah, they do bleed.
I just started a thread about the issue I'm having with mine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50144333
I might just turn the lights off, very bright. Should be an option to dim them.

My black Note3 is just fine. My old white SGS3, though, bled a bit in pitch black darkness, but it didn't really care because it was so subtle and not worth complaining about (SOME people actually returned their phones over it *hah*).
Anyway, I really wish the Note4 would ditch capacitive buttons, then how bright they are is a non-issue. I want my next phablet to have onscreen nav buttons, like the direction LG and Moto are going.

zmore said:
Anyway, I really wish the Note4 would ditch capacitive buttons, then how bright they are is a non-issue. I want my next phablet to have onscreen nav buttons, like the direction LG and Moto are going.
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I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but why not get the phone that has the features you want like above mentioned LG or Moto? I want hardware buttons so I have full use of the screen and that's part of the reason I picked Note 3 over other phablets and unless there is no bezel at all, I would be disappointed if part of the screen was wasted for things that could be off screen. If LG and Moto are trying to save few cents on hardware buttons, among other things, that's fine, but that's part of the reason I won't buy them.
Going back to the topic, as far as I can tell from the pictures it looks fine, similar in brightness to the screen icons, probably that's how I would want them, but honestly isn't it a little nit picking? I would never return the phone for such a minor thing since by now I don't even look at it no more, I know by heart where it is and yep there is a chance new phone could have some other problems, like crooked button for example. I'm sure there is a setting where it could be adjusted, especially if it's true that black Note 3 has lower setting than white, but not in user accessible menu.
Maybe developers could figure it out?

pete4k said:
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but why not get the phone that has the features you want like above mentioned LG or Moto? I want hardware buttons so I have full use of the screen and that's part of the reason I picked Note 3....
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Because Samsung still features a removable battery and microSDXC slot. That's really the main reason I've stuck with 'em.
(And software nav buttons really take up almost no space (and even less when configurable in the ROM); zero in immersive mode. I'd rather have the phone physically shrink w/o h/w buttons.)

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Because Samsung still features a removable battery and microSDXC slot. That's really the main reason I've stuck with 'em.
(And software nav buttons really take up almost no space (and even less when configurable in the ROM); zero in immersive mode. I'd rather have the phone physically shrink w/o h/w buttons.)
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You say almost no space but in reality it takes up .2" of screen. So a Moto X goes from 4.7" to 4.5". A Note 3 would go from 5.7" to 5.5" which is the same as the Note 2, effectively erasing the size difference between the 2 phones.
I personally don't want on screen nav buttons. If I'm buying a 5.7" screen I want to use 5.7". I understand some people may have other preferences, but the screen is the #1 feature of a phone, you look at and touch it 100% of the time.

I don't even know how on screen system buttons work, since I never had one, but if they permanently cut off 0.2 inch off screen , NO WAY. This would mess up everything: all the 16:9 1080p movies are then 1020p with border all around or are they no longer proper 16:9 ratio? Is the edge of the movie just cut off, or is every single frame rescaled to fit smaller area? And why would I ever want to have this, to admire huge empty bezel? Or to have more fingerprints and smudges on my screen
And yes exactly, all those companies cut out SD card slot, removable battery and hardware buttons most likely to save few pennies. So Samsung has my money.

I turn soft key lights OFF!
I cannot possibly forget that menu is one side and back is on the other. The fact that I'm reading about this "bleeding" being an issue is manna from Heaven. I don't understand why anybody would keep them on! Not to mention night use.

pete4k said:
I don't even know how on screen system buttons work, since I never had one, but if they permanently cut off 0.2 inch off screen , NO WAY. This would mess up everything: all the 16:9 1080p movies are then 1020p with border all around or are they no longer proper 16:9 ratio? Is the edge of the movie just cut off, or is every single frame rescaled to fit smaller area? And why would I ever want to have this, to admire huge empty bezel? Or to have more fingerprints and smudges on my screen
And yes exactly, all those companies cut out SD card slot, removable battery and hardware buttons most likely to save few pennies. So Samsung has my money.
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No the Nav Buttons disappear when playing a movie. But when using the phone they are there so they become intrusive in my opinion.

played with a Pixel XL today

Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol

Thanks for the info! - Man.... that's whetted my appetite

adamsweeting said:
Thanks for the info! - Man.... that's whetted my appetite
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Obviously I need to see some reviews, and the price is something each individual will have to decide on for themselves, but I was impressed. I didn't order one yet, since I haven't decided if 32gb is enough (probably not), but barring some seriously bag reviews, this will be my next phone

Nice! I'm on the Google wait list :good:

If you guys have a Best buy near you, the guy specifically told me that this was not his phone, and it was given to him for express of letting geek's like me check it out if they asked. I don't know if all locations are the same, but the one here has a Google display with all their chromebooks, and an actual Google employee there that you can talk to.

I might check Best Buy out...thanks

this makes me so hyped that I preorded the 128GB quite black. Hurry up and ship!!!! lmao
Thanks for the info OP!

Thanks for the info!

Ryano89 said:
Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
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Can you tell us anything about screen quality, brightness compared to your Note 5 and S7 edge?

droidguy22 said:
Can you tell us anything about screen quality, brightness compared to your Note 5 and S7 edge?
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Looks better than my note5 which is getting something that looks like light bleed after a year. This is subjective, but it looked comparable to the S7 edge. I'm sure detailed reviews will tell us technically which one is better, but in Best Buys lighting, to my untrained eye, the Pixel looked at least as good as the S7. The colors looked good, it was bright, and the color saturation looked good to me, but Amoled screens are all I've been staring at for the last year. This may be because I'm not a fan of the edge screen, or it could have been because of the glare or distortion that it causes, but the Pixel screen looked "crisper" to me if that makes any sense. I can't point exactly to the reason why, everything just looked a little clearer to me.

Ryano89 said:
Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
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#2. This was not mentioned in the videos because it is an android 6.0.1 feature, it's not new to the Pixel devices.

Khilbron said:
#2. This was not mentioned in the videos because it is an android 6.0.1 feature, it's not new to the Pixel devices.
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I was just going to post that. I use that on my 6P all the time.
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Notice how bright or how noticeable the notification led under the ear piece is?
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Ryano89 said:
Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
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I am from Indiana my self, Noblesville just north of Indianapolis. Can you tell me what best buy? You can PM me the location if you like.

jcarlm said:
I am from Indiana my self, Noblesville just north of Indianapolis. Can you tell me what best buy? You can PM me the location if you like.
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Mishawaka, the same guy also spends a couple days a week in Merriville

How does it fit in the hand and how is the one-handed usability compared to the nexus 6p?

gregk232 said:
How does it fit in the hand and how is the one-handed usability compared to the nexus 6p?
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Sorry, I can't compare it to the 6p, since I've never held one. Fits in the hand more comfortably than my note5 though. With the swipe function in the fingerprint sensor, one handed usability seemed great. I am a small guy, and the fingerprint sensor was easy to reach, and I was VERY impressed with how the phone felt

The main question is. How was battery life? Lol. Jk. But were you satisfied overall in your short time with it? Did it feel like a whole new android experience. Or just another phone? Thanks
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Ryano89 said:
Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
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double tapping the power button to open the camera is already a feature on the 6p. i use it all the time.

Double tapping the power button to open the camera is a standard feature on most AOSP ROM's on most phones.
I use it on my current Moto X Pure.
Works locked or unlocked. Been doing it this way for over a year now.

One-Handed Operation

I have a Pixel 2XL on the way and I'm super excited. One question I have is:
How is this phone one-handed?
It's a tad wider than the new flagships from Samsung, HTC, etc. and I'm wondering if it's going to be a struggle when I simply can't spare another hand and have to take care of something like responding to a text or playing music. My Note5 is about the same width and I've had occasional difficulties. Fortunately, a triple tap of the home button would shrink the screen down to the corner so I could access everything, and I may have to install an app that does this very thing on the Pixel.

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I have a Pixel 2XL on the way and I'm super excited. One question I have is:
How is this phone one-handed?
It's a tad wider than the new flagships from Samsung, HTC, etc. and I'm wondering if it's going to be a struggle when I simply can't spare another hand and have to take care of something like responding to a text or playing music. My Note5 is about the same width and I've had occasional difficulties. Fortunately, a triple tap of the home button would shrink the screen down to the corner so I could access everything, and I may have to install an app that does this very thing on the Pixel.
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Pie Control. Try it.
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Looks like this will provide the functionality I'm used to from the Note5...
https://www.xda-developers.com/install-one-handed-mode/

Some initial [email protected] S10+

Spent quite sometime with the S10+, well ..with a live demo unit.
Some personal initial impressions:
- Though secure , ultrasonic fp scanner is slow, slower than the optical scanner on the OnePlus 6T- something that is already slower than a conventional capacitive scanner. Also, once registered, it was a hit or a miss everytime I tried unlocking as I was not able to memorize the suitable spot @ FP scanner when I wasn't careful enough .Samsung is likely to make the experience better with future updates and I hope my muscle memory will improve in future. Also, wet finger and the scanner are against each other- doesn't work
(with a quick OTA [email protected] build no G975FXXU1ASBA, the FP recognition is now improved)
- No notification LED anymore.
- Bixby sucks like before.Now with an addition like Bixby routine that mimics Google assistant routine.
- Slipperly back.(- prism white, don't know about the other vatiants yet). Felt like it slips more than my Note 9 on the same surface.(just felt when I tried alongside the Note9, no accurate testing).
- Since bezels are thinner than ever, it felt like I was blocking the border contents accidentally no matter how I was holding.
- Feels lighter, way lighter than the Note 9 and also shorter, narrower.
- Primary shooter has two zoom modes compared to one in the Note 9.
- Bezel-less and a very premium design overall.
- Bigger battery ,yet smaller form factor. Yet to understand the endurance though.
PS: I see negatives in a gadget fast,way faster than the positives. As such, the +ve points would easily overpower the -ve points on the S10's, especially the +model.

Virgo_Guy said:
- Though secure , ultrasonic fp scanner is slow, slower than the optical scanner on the OnePlus 6T- something that is already slower than a conventional capacitive scanner. Also, once registered, it was a hit or a miss everytime I tried unlocking as I was not able to memorize the suitable spot @ FP scanner when I wasn't careful enough .Samsung is likely to make the experience better with future updates and I hope my muscle memory will improve in future. Also, wet finger and the scanner are against each other- doesn't work.
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I assume there would be a setting to show on the screen where the sensor is located to guide you, either on the AOD or lock screen. I'm a little upset about the wet finger and scanner not working. I thought that was a perk of having this type of sensor...
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- No notication LED anymore.
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Have you dug around in the settings to see if there is a setting to use part of the screen as the "notification LED"? I've heard rumors that the camera bezel is used in place of the notification LED.

Outbreak444 said:
I assume there would be a setting to show on the screen where the sensor is located to guide you, either on the AOD or lock screen. I'm a little upset about the wet finger and scanner not working. I thought that was a perk of having this type of sensor...
Have you dug around in the settings to see if there is a setting to use part of the screen as the "notification LED"? I've heard rumors that the camera bezel is used in place of the notification LED.
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Aside from the fp registration process , I was not greeted with any other guidance once the screen was locked.Unfortunately, the demo I spent time on, wasn't showing that in default settings and I did not dig further into the settings to find out. If not there, I assume Retail units will have it.
Again.. it's just that I couldn't find an LED on the status bar. Will update more about how notification is taken care of using AOD(if at all it's different from existing ones and paid special attention to, for notifications) when I play with it again.

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Aside from the fp registration process , I was not greeted with any other guidance once the screen was locked.Unfortunately, the demo I spent time on, wasn't showing that in default settings and I did not dig further into the settings to find out. If not there, I assume Retail units will have it.
Again.. it's just that I couldn't find an LED on the status bar. Will update more about how notification is taken care of using AOD(if at all it's different from existing ones and paid special attention to, for notifications) when I play with it again.
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I also read somewhere that the camera bezels were "Samsung elegant solution for notification lights". Please, share and thanks.

Is it me or does the display looks not uniform with a pink hue!

Virgo_Guy said:
Also, wet finger and the scanner are against each other- doesn't work.
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This doesn't make sense. Are you sure the device wasn't faulty? Also when your turn on the device the lockscreen has an indicator of where to place your finger to unlock the device on all on the videos I've seen. Something must be wrong with the device you played with.

Mosman12 said:
Is it me or does the display looks not uniform with a pink hue!
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Didn't notice anything of the sort on retail units. Of course, defects can happen to any product.

Intratech said:
This doesn't make sense. Are you sure the device wasn't faulty? Also when your turn on the device the lockscreen has an indicator of where to place your finger to unlock the device on all on the videos I've seen. Something must be wrong with the device you played with.
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A lot of the people reviewing the phone said they had the same issues with the FP reader.

I see many YouTubers reviews in regards to the FP reader, I'll wait and test myself.
Same was said with the optical that they are slow and Don't function, now I have tested and owned the Huawei mate 20 pro that was just fine, I did not have the issues YouTubers were crying on about.
I now have the Vivo Nex S and again no issues it unlocks first time, I would put it in the say 98% odd occasion it might be slow or not respond as well. I must be the fortunate one I guess lol
What I am saying is don't buy Into the beeeep, sometimes they are full of beeeep, not saying it will be perfect, but I can say from my optical use I haven't been annoyed with it. It well works 98% of the time.

Duncan1982 said:
I see many YouTubers reviews in regards to the FP reader, I'll wait and test myself.
Same was said with the optical that they are slow and Don't function, now I have tested and owned the Huawei mate 20 pro that was just fine, I did not have the issues YouTubers were crying on about.
I now have the Vivo Nex S and again no issues it unlocks first time, I would put it in the say 98% odd occasion it might be slow or not respond as well. I must be the fortunate one I guess lol
What I am saying is don't buy Into the beeeep, sometimes they are full of beeeep, not saying it will be perfect, but I can say from my optical use I haven't been annoyed with it. It well works 98% of the time.
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Why did you flip your mate 20 pro?

Mosman12 said:
Why did you flip your mate 20 pro?
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Well I had to buy the Asus R.O.G .....

Did you try to record any hdr video? And they had improved the AR emoji? First were crappy

tiho5 said:
I also read somewhere that the camera bezels were "Samsung elegant solution for notification lights". Please, share and thanks.
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Yeah, I did read a few similar articles and to find out, I checked 2 more units today . NO, I did not see any such option . Counting from settings in camera to notification to developer options , I just could not find any such thing.
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Is it me or does the display looks not uniform with a pink hue!
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That's screen burn. I did not see that in few other units. Rest be assured that the "pink hue" that plagued the S6 series is not the case here :good:
Intratech said:
This doesn't make sense. Are you sure the device wasn't faulty? Also when your turn on the device the lockscreen has an indicator of where to place your finger to unlock the device on all on the videos I've seen. Something must be wrong with the device you played with.
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1. Definitely it was not faulty. I had to pretty much forget the fp scanner when finger was totally wet. When it was slightly wet, it was hit or a miss situation. I tested it with another unit today only to have the same result. Then tested with one more unit - nothing changed.
2. When you register fp, it shows , once the screen goes off ,it doesn't anymore. You will have to wake the screen first , only then the "indicator" shows, not when you directly would want to unlock using the fp from the lockscreen when it's off. Dug further into settings and AOD to look for any possible toggle,found none. With AOD, it indeed showed up notification and stuff but not the fp guide/indication. Toggles like lift to wake and the new "double tap to wake" (new for a samsung without 3rd party launcher) are there .
Going forward, I spoke to a Samsung senior level trainer ( is known to me) (& for God's sake I did not want to talk to customer care execs) who later told me "the phones you have tested are with pre-release software and some are with Retail mode on in them without having the actual Retail software meant for customers. You will see "all that" once it is officially released in the market(i.e. 8 March).
I will have a full retail unit in March 6th for sure. Till then, let's see what more info we get. :good:

takato23 said:
Did you try to record any hdr video? And they had improved the AR emoji? First were crappy
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AR emoijis are customizable: Skin color, hair, clothes, facial features, name and age. They seem to have idle actions such as dancing. Keep in mind that I didn't try AR in previous phones can't do a direct comparison.
Also, you can create AR emoji masks (where your head is replaced). The camera supports HDR10+ & HEVC (one or the other!).

Ace42 said:
AR emoijis are customizable: Skin color, hair, clothes, facial features, name and age. They seem to have idle actions such as dancing. Keep in mind that I didn't try AR in previous phones can't do a direct comparison.
Also, you can create AR emoji masks (where your head is replaced). The camera supports HDR10+ & HEVC (one or the other!).
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Nice! They are more like memoji from apple?

takato23 said:
Nice! They are more like memoji from apple?
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In terms of looks they're closer to Microsoft's avatars, since they're deformed humans instead of animals or emojis. Facial tracking is still there, so you can blink or whatever. Dunno if it'll gain traction with content creators, but I can see myself using masks.

Just played with a S10 in store and there is an indicator on AOD for where to place your finger for the fingerprint sensor. Dunno what software OPs unit is running but it doesn't seem to be the latest.

Intratech said:
Just played with a S10 in store and there is an indicator on AOD for where to place your finger for the fingerprint sensor. Dunno what software OPs unit is running but it doesn't seem to be the latest.
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Yes I've noticed that too in a YT video. But I did not see that in AOD on, with the units I played with. (attached pic).
Unless tapped on the screen, that area was not visible. That experience is similar to this video: timing at 04.00

Odd

From TK Bay's video. Gif showing the fingerprint placement hint when the screen is off without AOD.

General Initial impressions

Got my Sunny Yellow one delivered this morning so been playing with it most of the day. Initial impressions are very good, some are listed below. Feel free to list your own.
The fingerprint scanner was a little off but after an update came in i deleted my fingerprints and re-did them and its been fine ever since. Couple of times it hasnt worked but i think thats because the screen is so smooth/slippery that my thumb slipped on the screen as it was trying to read it.
I dont have a 5g plan or even 5g signal where i am to test but so far 4g speeds are exactly the same as my pixel 2xl and oppo reno 2 ive come from.
I dont really like having the "internet" tile, id prefer having them seperate the wifi and mobile data tab. Just seems strange to add a further click to enable/disable wifi when i want to instead of just hitting the tab.
On the home screen if you make a folder then the apps slightly overhang the edge of the circle which just looks odd to me, i wish they were all within the folder.
I wish there was an option of disabling the big clock on the lock screen. I have a picture of my partner on my lock screen and when picking up the phone id rather see her than her face covered by a huge clock
The phone got very hot when setting up and transferring apps/data from my old phone but has been fine since.
I love the screen and how smooth everything flows. I dont see any issue with brightness personally. Ill see how battery life performs over the coming days

Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.

The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
The rounded edge screen is pretty terrible. There are optical distortions along the sides. The radius of the edge should be reduced to around 1 mm.
A little more width on the screen would be nice. This is 71.5mm. Nexus 6 was 74, which was a lot nicer. 80 would be a dream.
A little bit of border around the screen would also be nice so you have somewhere to actually hold the thing. Function should be paramount, not form, and especially not goofy/ugly form like these have. A bit of border above the screen would make space to get the camera out of the screen instead of the ugly hole. I also hate the rounded corners on the screen. Software rounded corners are ok, because you can disable them, there is no reason to force it with paint on the inside surface of the glass.

96carboard said:
The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
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feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is

Love it so far, so fast and fluid. As mentioned above it gets real hot, and was still discharging while using old pixel charger.
Camera is amazing the details captured are stunning.
Phone is very slippery to hold and would be easy to drop with the top weight of the camera hump. Tried to buy a case for grip and protection, and was told that they can until tomorrow because that was the day the phone was supposed to be delivered, but because of our crap postal service they sent a day early so that people would or should get them by that date
Real time translation works very well, even with the new update still seems a little buggy
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
I could buy pixel charger which I might take back because it doesn't seem to charge an faster.
My wireless car charger for the pixel 4xl charges this phone at about the same speed as the old wall charger, need to see if it throttles for heat though..

dimm0k said:
feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
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I agree, but it also would be heavy

This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.

danw_oz said:
I agree, but it also would be heavy
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There as a day when heavy meant PREMIUM and light meant junk.
My laptop (lenovo), not even old, actually had some weights added into it to make it feel more substantial.
And so what if its a little heavier as long as it isn't burdensome. You can easily carry around several pounds without it being burdensome.

swieder711 said:
This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
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If you were referring to the rounded CORNERS, there will be kind-of software solutions for the rounded corners. Right now you can run "wm size 1440x2890" to reduce the display area (persistently). This brings the display area past the camera hole and past the rounded corners. Now normally, there would be a system property available to adjust the corners, however this one has multi-radius corners which are set in a config for systemui, therefore will actually require a rebuild from source to fix, but once that is unset, it should have square corners.
However the side effect of course, will be a slightly smaller display area. Still wider than the non-Pro, but less than it is now. Not that you need all that height for any practical purpose.
And for that matter, you could use the same "wm size" command to reduce the display width to work around the rounded edges. "wm size 1300x3120" pulls the display area all the way into the flat part and eliminates the optical distortions. You could probably establish a better balance that lets it in just a little bit and probably gives the same width as the non-Pro.

ozzjim1 said:
Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
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Nova Launcher was crashing for me but it seemed to be a clock widget I had previously and it wasn't displaying it.
I deleted the widget and rebooted the phone and it has been perfect since and all day today.
My screen now looks like my 3XL only longer, faster, smoother

I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?

Thanks for the tip on Nova, might rebuild my screen from scratch with it too ID the issue. The pixel launcher without some custom apps and grid sizes is a bit of a jarring experience. Search at the bottom is all wrong too.

magooo said:
I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
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settings, display, lock screen, turn off "always show time and info"

danw_oz said:
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
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Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.

Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Have you gotten the small 70 MB Android update yet? Mine was buggy with Nova Launcher Prime, in particular, but after the update, all good.
I like the fingerprint reader better than the ultrasonic in my Note 10+. It's working much better and faster for me so far. Here's hoping that stays true.

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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id suggest resetting then. Working fine for most people

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Could you describe what you mean by "buggy as hell"?

wekebu said:
Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
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Search play for high brightness mode or HBM software by @flar2 an amazing kernal and software developer

According to Goggle I have a defective unit and they are going to swap it out