With a semi stable version of twrp and project treble functionality making rom development supposedly simple, curious why is it that we have not a single rom even in it's infancy?
Lack of developers?
Waiting for stable twrp?
Because the minimum price for an XL is 849$. Not to mention all the problems that come along with it.
Development might be very slow. Till the price drops or they have a hardware revision and fix the screen. Not to mention Oreo is still very new.
I didn't buy this phone for development, mines still stock and enjoying it.
I was thinking the same thing, regarding slow ROM development. Kernel development took off immediately and there are a few solid kernel options available. But I'm surprised to see no ROMs available yet.
However, I do think there is some major truth behind the points antiochasylum made. On top of that, root is still in the infancy stage and TWRP is just very recently stable enough to be fully installed. My guess is that ROMs will start being made available in the next couple of weeks.
There is no reason to make a rom for this device. It works well as it is. Most know that by now. No reason to unlock, root, flash, you name it. The reason being there is no benefit. Well we have some font stuff, being able to brick it, and "I want control on my device" things but that is ancient history. Custom roms are basically done.
Stop asking for development if you are not willing to do it yourself.
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There is no reason to make a rom for this device. It works well as it is. Most know that by now. No reason to unlock, root, flash, you name it. The reason being there is no benefit. Well we have some font stuff, being able to brick it, and "I want control on my device" things but that is ancient history. Custom roms are basically done.
Stop asking for development if you are not willing to do it yourself.
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Sorry to say you do not speak for a large percentage of current users here. Just looking at the activity of the TWRP, Magisk and kernel threads proves you are mistaken.
Probly need a good stable TWRP before we see roms
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Probly need a good stable TWRP before we see roms
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That and I'm sure some of the devs who will most likely be in our corner don't even have a device yet. Some of them buy a phone based on donations or wait until they see how big the user base is.
Some will come as the stardust settles...
I'd love a rom that gets tethering to work again with VZ. Thinking about returning since I heavily rely on hotspot with my grandfathered plan.
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If you want development now then the Oneplus series is the place to be lol that's where all the development is happening cause it's a cheaper phone
bobby janow said:
There is no reason to make a rom for this device. It works well as it is. Most know that by now. No reason to unlock, root, flash, you name it. The reason being there is no benefit. Well we have some font stuff, being able to brick it, and "I want control on my device" things but that is ancient history. Custom roms are basically done.
Stop asking for development if you are not willing to do it yourself.
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You must have written this on your new iPhoneX. You need to update your signature to iPhoneX instead of the pixel 2.
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You must have written this on your new iPhoneX. You need to update your signature to iPhoneX instead of the pixel 2.
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Lol. You wish. Been here longer than you've been alive. But you are right in one way. I do have an iPhone. Not used unless I need to FaceTime my kids or have a line open.
I have a signature? Hmm. How about " Android since rooted Eris" ? Ever heard of that phone? Oc to 750. Guess the ROM?
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mackentosh said:
If you want development now then the Oneplus series is the place to be lol that's where all the development is happening cause it's a cheaper phone
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But no Verizon right??
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Lol. You wish. Been here longer than you've been alive. But you are right in one way.
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With such age and wisdom you should ask to become a Fellow on XDA.
Geezus quit it. Back on topic please.
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With such age and wisdom you should ask to become a Fellow on XDA.
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Lol. Who's to say I'm not?
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Geezus quit it. Back on topic please.
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Come on.. just having some fun.
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Lol. You wish. Been here longer than you've been alive. But you are right in one way. I do have an iPhone. Not used unless I need to FaceTime my kids or have a line open.
I have a signature? Hmm. How about " Android since rooted Eris" ? Ever heard of that phone? Oc to 750. Guess the ROM?
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Pfft. OG G1!=P back when you had to destroy a SD card to root.
To the topic at hand. I rooted my pixel 2 XL two days ago. Still trying to figure out why lol. I tweaked the display a tad to make it a little warmer and that's about it. Rooting is about control. ROMs are about customization. And what's left to customize? You going to make the phone faster?
OP5 has lots of development. one yes it's cheaper. But two, it needs it. Trying to improve on the camera. Make it a little snappier. And honestly most of the ROMs over there run worse than stock.
Real ROM development was because most of the time you couldn't get the latest and greatest on your phone. So you get a ROM built off the latest AOSP so you could be running the most recent software. or you were on TouchWiz and wanted vanilla. Those days are dead.
I'm sure in the coming weeks a few ROMs will get cooked together. And the hardcore flashers will install it. Maybe it will be amazing but the simple fact is stock Android is so good the concept of rooting and ROMs is more novelty than necessary at this point
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Ok.. xtrRom
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Pfft. OG G1!=P back when you had to destroy a SD card to root.
To the topic at hand. I rooted my pixel 2 XL two days ago. Still trying to figure out why lol. I tweaked the display a tad to make it a little warmer and that's about it. Rooting is about control. ROMs are about customization. And what's left to customize? You going to make the phone faster?
OP5 has lots of development. one yes it's cheaper. But two, it needs it. Trying to improve on the camera. Make it a little snappier. And honestly most of the ROMs over there run worse than stock.
Real ROM development was because most of the time you couldn't get the latest and greatest on your phone. So you get a ROM built off the latest AOSP so you could be running the most recent software. or you were on TouchWiz and wanted vanilla. Those days are dead.
I'm sure in the coming weeks a few ROMs will get cooked together. And the hardcore flashers will install it. Maybe it will be amazing but the simple fact is stock Android is so good the concept of rooting and ROMs is more novelty than necessary at this point
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You can. I have og grandfathered Verizon plan and tethering works for me. Had to change the build prop but it works.
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I'd love a rom that gets tethering to work again with VZ. Thinking about returning since I heavily rely on hotspot with my grandfathered plan.
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Unless you had Bugless Beast or ChevyNo1 you were nobody. lol Or the famed Adamz Smoked Glass roms back when Sir Psycho Recovery. Man those were the days. 500mhz overclocked to 1.25
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zathus said:
Pfft. OG G1!=P back when you had to destroy a SD card to root.
To the topic at hand. I rooted my pixel 2 XL two days ago. Still trying to figure out why lol. I tweaked the display a tad to make it a little warmer and that's about it. Rooting is about control. ROMs are about customization. And what's left to customize? You going to make the phone faster?
OP5 has lots of development. one yes it's cheaper. But two, it needs it. Trying to improve on the camera. Make it a little snappier. And honestly most of the ROMs over there run worse than stock.
Real ROM development was because most of the time you couldn't get the latest and greatest on your phone. So you get a ROM built off the latest AOSP so you could be running the most recent software. or you were on TouchWiz and wanted vanilla. Those days are dead.
I'm sure in the coming weeks a few ROMs will get cooked together. And the hardcore flashers will install it. Maybe it will be amazing but the simple fact is stock Android is so good the concept of rooting and ROMs is more novelty than necessary at this point
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You can. I have og grandfathered Verizon plan and tethering works for me. Had to change the build prop but it works.
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Unless you had Bugless Beast or ChevyNo1 you were nobody. lol Or the famed Adamz Smoked Glass roms back when Sir Psycho Recovery. Man those were the days. 500mhz overclocked to 1.25
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Wow, so overwhelmed with flashbacks almost brought a tear. Bugless beast was legit. Back when rootzwiki was the place to be.
Ok, I'm done hijacking the thread lol
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Hi I just got my first "Gnex" (GT-i9250) although This is an Oldish phone, I got this as a replacement to one of my Xperia Play's I have (Cracked screen, fried battery from being in Afghan') :crying:
I had my Xperia Play overclocked to 1.9-2.0GHz for gaming and 1.4GHz whilst working (Idle'd at 233MHz)
Anyhow; The phone is going to be used for both work and play.. So is there an essential specific set of things I should do? Swap out Google apps with After-market ones? Root and install CFW?
its a 16Gb Model also!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812959
Welcome to the GNex! I suggest 2 apps if you don't already have them. SwiftKey keyboard (can't stand stock) and Root Explorer which is the best file manager I've used personally. If you do decide to root, steer clear of toolkits. The GNex is easy to root manually. A few lines of ADB commands and you are good to go. The hardest part is getting your drivers installed, which isn't a big deal. Other than that, enjoy! The GNex is an excellent device with some great developers.
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You might want to hold off on buying SwiftKey keyboard because they're working on a new version that supports swype as well. I bought the phone and the tablet versions and now I'm buying the new version whenever it is released.
As far as ROMs I recommend you stay on the stock firmware, root it, remove apps you don't really use, then install a recovery like TWRP 2.3.10. This recovery supports storage encryption.
I would stay away from custom ROMs or kernels because I can tell you from personal experience, they just glitch eventually.
I used to own the Motorola Atrix and even though it was a pain to unlock, it's ROMs and kernels never gave me any issues. Maybe it's because I used to flash Faux123 kernels only?
Enjoy your phone dude! The new Nexus 4 was released, but i got a feeling people will be wanting to go back to this device once they realize the grass is not always greener on the other side.
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Pierceye said:
Welcome to the GNex! I suggest 2 apps if you don't already have them. SwiftKey keyboard (can't stand stock) and Root Explorer which is the best file manager I've used personally. If you do decide to root, steer clear of toolkits. The GNex is easy to root manually. A few lines of ADB commands and you are good to go. The hardest part is getting your drivers installed, which isn't a big deal. Other than that, enjoy! The GNex is an excellent device with some great developers.
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Why did you say stay away from Tool Kits?
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Why did you say stay away from Tool Kits?
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Because you don't really have "control" over what they do. It's better to manually do things since you'll know exactly where something went wrong rather than be dependent on software to do something that's incredibly easy.
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You might want to hold off on buying SwiftKey keyboard because they're working on a new version that supports swype as well. I bought the phone and the tablet versions and now I'm buying the new version whenever it is released.
As far as ROMs I recommend you stay on the stock firmware, root it, remove apps you don't really use, then install a recovery like TWRP 2.3.10. This recovery supports storage encryption.
I would stay away from custom ROMs or kernels because I can tell you from personal experience, they just glitch eventually.
I used to own the Motorola Atrix and even though it was a pain to unlock, it's ROMs and kernels never gave me any issues. Maybe it's because I used to flash Faux123 kernels only?
Enjoy your phone dude! The new Nexus 4 was released, but i got a feeling people will be wanting to go back to this device once they realize the grass is not always greener on the other side.
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Why did you say stay away from Tool Kits?
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Root is not required for unwanted apps, just disable them.
Root is an essential for any Android phone IMO.
Then pick up Root Explorer.
The whole point of Nexus devices is AOSP and access to custom ROMs. Otherwise might as well stay with HTC One or GS3.
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The whole point of Nexus devices is AOSP and access to custom ROMs. Otherwise might as well stay with HTC One or GS3.
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I believe the whole point of Nexus devices is getting new update first, and clean ROM looking without HTC, Samsung mambo jumbo launchers. You got custom ROMs for all high end devices
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Root is not required for unwanted apps, just disable them.
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Try disabling Google Plus...
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Try disabling Google Plus...
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What happens? I'm not stock so G+ is not a system app.
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Because you don't really have "control" over what they do. It's better to manually do things since you'll know exactly where something went wrong rather than be dependent on software to do something that's incredibly easy.
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I understand where you're coming from. But from my vantage point, I think there are a lot of people on the XDA Forums who know WAAAAYYY more that I do. I don't know a Kernal from a colonel. I got my Galaxy Nexus (off eBay -SCH-i515) on Thursday 11-1-12. I used the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ToolKit V9.1.0 and used selection #8. It was a one button push to Unlock, root, flash CWM.
On Friday, my Galaxy Nexus was sporting the new Jelly Bean 4.2 camera, and I am one happy camper.
Honestly contrary to what most here said I feel if you are interested in how the device works or are a little inclined towards tech in general then unlock it and take a weekend. Set up your ADB interface and get fastboot working. Otherwise you may do something incorrect and have to create thread after thread getting help to fix it. Get ahold of the fastboot images you need and go to town. You really can't break it, and you will learn tons.
In my opinion CM10 with its new update feature is the best. It is ultra stable even on the nighties and updating is super easy. Get some great root apps to create backups and such.
RootExplorer (cm10 now includes a file manager but it can't handle zips yet)
TitaniumBackup - use the new XML backups to never lose Text messages or call logs and XMLs are compatible with each ROM which is nice.. No issues.
Rooting your phone comes with dangers but can be the most rewarding experience. I personally cannot use my phone without root anymore, mainly for the little things. CM10 has a beautiful quick message element that is exactly what Android has been missing. I use a theme called Popstyle and it is what Android should look like. Dark grey and a non-overpowering red are the colors and it looks upscale and far better then stock Android IMO.
The best thing I can say is have fun. You will break things sometimes and get frustrated but it is a fantastic experience. I've been rooting and modding phones since the D1 in late 2009 and have had stock Android running a small fraction of the time.
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I understand where you're coming from. But from my vantage point, I think there are a lot of people on the XDA Forums who know WAAAAYYY more that I do. I don't know a Kernal from a colonel. I got my Galaxy Nexus (off eBay -SCH-i515) on Thursday 11-1-12. I used the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ToolKit V9.1.0 and used selection #8. It was a one button push to Unlock, root, flash CWM.
On Friday, my Galaxy Nexus was sporting the new Jelly Bean 4.2 camera, and I am one happy camper.
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Unlocking a Nexus manually is easy and enjoyable. Mine was unlocked with TWRP and SU within 15mins of coming home, no toolkits needed. It's like hiring someone to change an outlet - why? It's really simple to do yourself and impresses the wife.
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I would stay away from custom ROMs or kernels because I can tell you from personal experience, they just glitch eventually.
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I would agree with you on the ROM part but not with the kernel part. Franco and trinity kernel are the most stable kernel out there. If op will go about overclocking/underclocking which i think he will, custom kernel is the way to go
Op, read the stickies on general and q&a. search, learn. And always have usb debugging on.
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Thanks guys (And any girls?) I've had Android devices in the past; This is just another in a long line of devices, from Chinatech android resistive devices to top-of-the range "Brand" devices I've had them all. I even had the G1!
Being as this was my first GNex I didn't want to be going round and round in circles like the Galaxy ACE & Galaxy Mini I have!
I had epic difficulty with my Xperia play (No usable recovery as such!).
I've used ADB, got most if not all drivers for Sony, Samsung and HTC Drivers installed on my work laptop ^_^
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Thanks guys (And any girls?) I've had Android devices in the past; This is just another in a long line of devices, from Chinatech android resistive devices to top-of-the range "Brand" devices I've had them all. I even had the G1!
Being as this was my first GNex I didn't want to be going round and round in circles like the Galaxy ACE & Galaxy Mini I have!
I had epic difficulty with my Xperia play (No usable recovery as such!).
I've used ADB, got most if not all drivers for Sony, Samsung and HTC Drivers installed on my work laptop ^_^
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An android phone with a resistive screen, damn
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Why did you say stay away from Tool Kits?
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I suggest avoiding toolkits for 3 reasons. First off, you aren't learning any about the device. If you are going to be rooting and modding your phone you Are eventually going to have a problem that needs fixing. Which leads to reason 2. Most of the users here that have enough knowledge and experience to help when something goes wrong don't generally like having to sort through the mess a toolkit can cause. It's difficult to tell where in the process a toolkit screwed up, so it's that much harder to figure out how to help. It's possible to spend hours bug hunting the problem a toolkit caused. And the last reason is that the GNex is easy to root. I have next to no computer expertise, but with some reading and a little patience I got my phone rooted using the manual method. I learned a lot, not only about the rooting process but Android in general. I admit that I spent a good month reading here at XDA before I was willing to take the plunge. Look at it this way. Would you let a machine that you know nothing about, built by a stranger in their basement, make modifications to the transmission in your car? Would you try to make those same changes yourself without at least reading up on it? This is what people are doing with a toolkit. They then come back to XDA in a panic because their several hundred dollar device doesn't work, they don't know any of the terminology or common courtesies of the forum, and it seems like they expect that help should be forthcoming. Nobody likes to have demands made of them, especially by someone who wasn't willing to take basic precautions. The instant gratification of a toolkit looks good on paper, but if a person isn't willing to do some reading and learning then a rooted device is probably not a good idea for them. I'm proof that you don't have to be a computer genius to do it, but I was damn sure willing to read and LEARN HOW!
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I would love to send my phone off and get it now but that's just not possible. I'm actually enjoying a bone stock device right now. If no exploit comes I think this is the first phone I could run stock and pretty much enjoy it.
I will wait, I am in no big hurry enjoying stock also.
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I actually did do the S-Off, and I'm running a 4.3 ROM and I'm not entirely convinced I'm going to stay this way. I think I may return to the BoneStock ROM. Sense is nice. If Verizon would let you remove their bloat it would be even better. I can understand pre-loading stuff but prohibiting us from removing apps we'll never in a million years use? That's crap.
I agree. I'm still locked down but its definitely the first device I love stock already. S3 was ok, but the One puts everything else to shame pretty much.
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First thing I did was get away from Sense 5. I never gave Blinkfeed a chance, I'll admit it, but I hate it on principle. I have flipboard and only have to look at it when I feel like it. I use Nova and it does everything that I need it to do and more. I have seen every iteration of Sense and liked it until Blinkfeed. I do have a question though; those of you that stayed with it, does Blinkfeed cause a noticeable drain on resources such as battery or data? Besides just being in my face, that was my major concern.
I agree that this is the first phone that I have owned that I am enjoying bone stock and locked. However, I get complaints from anyone I call on Bluetooth (with my car) that they are having a hard time hearing me. I had a S4 with this car and had no issue. Very hopeful that 4.3 and its Bluetooth updates will fix this problem as it is the only thing that is driving me nuts as I can't use the Bluetooth in my car at all right now.
Wish I could unlock and flash 4.3 to see if it fixes the problem
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I agree that this is the first phone that I have owned that I am enjoying bone stock and locked. However, I get complaints from anyone I call on Bluetooth (with my car) that they are having a hard time hearing me. I had a S4 with this car and had no issue. Very hopeful that 4.3 and its Bluetooth updates will fix this problem as it is the only thing that is driving me nuts as I can't use the Bluetooth in my car at all right now.
Wish I could unlock and flash 4.3 to see if it fixes the problem
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I've got an f-150 with the SYNC system, it has been buggy since I bought it but so far no problems with this device, bluetooth media streaming and all.
I'm stock and I have no problem with it this way. Would I like to get rid of the bloat, run ad blocking, etc? Sure. Blinkfeed is like Feedly for grammar school or something. So I'm using Nova, which I like a lot.
So yes, I'm hoping someone comes up with (and shares) a root exploit. If 4.3 should arrive OTA, that will be a tough decision as to accept or not. Chances are I'll wait a bit to see what develops. Meanwhile, I'm loving this device.
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First thing I did was get away from Sense 5. I never gave Blinkfeed a chance, I'll admit it, but I hate it on principle. I have flipboard and only have to look at it when I feel like it. I use Nova and it does everything that I need it to do and more. I have seen every iteration of Sense and liked it until Blinkfeed. I do have a question though; those of you that stayed with it, does Blinkfeed cause a noticeable drain on resources such as battery or data? Besides just being in my face, that was my major concern.
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I enjoy BlinkFeed. I just switched it so it's not my home page. I have awesome battery life on this phone.
I don't think blinkfeed drains any battery whatsoever. I pretty much don't use it, but I really like the sense launcher so I deal with it.
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I am still up in the air about getting the s-off or not (at this current time - will probably do it eventually). I love the phone as is thus far...quick, decent battery, and I like how slim Sense has become - compared to froyo and gingerbread...
I am not entirely sold on the blinkfeed yet...it's cool...but I'm thinking it's because it is a novel item.
I'm still locked, I'm also fine with the stock ROM. I would like better backup options, and remove the Verizon bloat. I'd really like root access to block ads. I've also been a fan of Sense, but I don't care much for Blink feed. Right now I'm using the Nova launcher, and it works well for me. In either case, I'm keeping the phone, unlocked or not, but hopefully an exploit will be released for those of us who opt to not ship off our phone.
With blinkfeed removed I love sense 5.
I have it removed by default in my ROM.
you can easily add it back but once you do you can't remove it until re-flash.
it doesn't eat any battery while not in use from my experience..
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I actually did do the S-Off, and I'm running a 4.3 ROM and I'm not entirely convinced I'm going to stay this way. I think I may return to the BoneStock ROM. Sense is nice. If Verizon would let you remove their bloat it would be even better. I can understand pre-loading stuff but prohibiting us from removing apps we'll never in a million years use? That's crap.
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Since you are rooted and unlocked.
Make a nandroid of the stock system, then remove all the bloat you want.
When it's time to take an OTA restore the nandroid and do it all over again.
I have a few days... Wish there was an equal device to switch to but this thing is an animal... The bloat is bs, and I really miss running mokee on my phone, and could build it for this one if we could get it unlocked... Really good factory sw but I've been on 4.3 with my atrix 2 since days after it came out, I just want some source code and an unlocked device... I think I'll wait, but I'm not locked down yet... This is my first HTC device, but code is easy, for anyone else that wants to tackle the lock down with me....
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and screw the bounty, I wanna do it for free, just like android is meant to be....
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I have a few days... Wish there was an equal device to switch to but this thing is an animal... The bloat is bs, and I really miss running mokee on my phone, and could build it for this one if we could get it unlocked... Really good factory sw but I've been on 4.3 with my atrix 2 since days after it came out, I just want some source code and an unlocked device... I think I'll wait, but I'm not locked down yet... This is my first HTC device, but code is easy, for anyone else that wants to tackle the lock down with me....
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and screw the bounty, I wanna do it for free, just like android is meant to be....
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That my friend is a true Android statement!! Although I believe whoever does figure something out would deserve it for the work that goes into it. After all this is a free hobby for most people besides buying new phones.
forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.
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forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.
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You can go into manage apps and disable some things. That's what I did anyway. Not sure of another way though.
andybones said:
forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.
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I think gray made a zip files in the original android Dev section.
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I think gray made a zip files in the original android Dev section.
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the OP above you was what I was thinking of.
Since the Pixel is manufactured by HTC , you think Dev can port a fully working Sense to the Pixel? Not half baked working rom.
Wtf!!!! Just why in the world would you slow down the phone with a skin?? No offense but i honestly think that its reasons like this that oems dont move away from skins because there are ppl that still perfer to sludge their phone with skins, i could already see if samsung were to put out a pixel phone or nexus ppl would ask..."can we port touchwiz?" ughhh i wanna rip my eyeballs out
And to answer ur question i think best bet would be to wait for cm14 comes to pixel... they have a theme engine and have sense skins??
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It is possible if we find a way to root. By possible I mean it is possible to find the amount of water in a lake just by using a cup, possible but not easy.
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It is possible if we find a way to root. By possible I mean it is possible to find the amount of water in a lake just by using a cup, possible but not easy.
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Chainfire post this on twitter
My Pixel will not arrive for a while yet. SuperSU will need some changes, but having looked at the firmwares, I'm not worried.
I think it's a possibility since HTC has their hands on Google Pixel software.
http://www.xda-developers.com/googl...of-an-htc-cerberus-from-pixel-xl-source-code/
Why didn't you just buy an HTC 10?
why did you get a pixel?
flex360 said:
why did you get a pixel?
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Thank you!!!!!! Exactly!!!! This is why samsung/Htc/LG will never care to remove their skins because those types of ppl will need it, and compromise performance on the poor device with great specs...smfhhh i swear!!!
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Thank you!!!!!! Exactly!!!! This is why samsung/Htc/LG will never care to remove their skins because those types of ppl will need it, and compromise performance on the poor device with great specs...smfhhh i swear!!!
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Maybe he likes the hardware of the pixel and just wants options on the software. Why did you even post in this thread if you're going to be so negative about the subject? I myself like options to choose from.
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Maybe he likes the hardware of the pixel and just wants options on the software. Why did you even post in this thread if you're going to be so negative about the subject? I myself like options to choose from.
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No im not being negative but thats the reason we will NEVER see a fully stock android on samsung ever....because ppl actually like touchwiz which takes a hit on performance and it isnt fair to others that would like to experience faster software...just saying
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Closest thing you can get. Works great though, can use it as home or an app if you use nova shortcuts ttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3049438
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Sorry if this has been asked already, but like I asked, when should we start to see Oreo ROMs?
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Sorry if this has been asked already, but like I asked, when should we start to see Oreo ROMs?
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Don't ask for ETAs.
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What's wrong with stock?
Aftermarket ROMs seem to introduce more problems than they fix, for the past 4 phones
I finally learned my lesson with the Nexus 6 and stuck with stock and a custom kernel. Xposed will be along and there is no reason for a ROM.
Substratum, ✓
Root, ✓
Android Pay/Netflix, ✓
Boot Animation change, ✓
Custom Kernel, ✓
Xposed, soon[emoji769]
What are the other reasons you possibly want to taint a great phone?
T.
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Some people enjoy the the mods that come with custom ROMs. Since the Nexus 5 I've been a huge fan of the contents by the team over at Dirty Unicorns puts out. Wouldn't mind trying out a DU Oreo rom if it ever happened.
XDA members usually like to flash...
galaxys said:
XDA members usually like to flash...
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Yep. If I recall from many years ago when creating an account on xda there was a check box you were required to check acknowledging that expected behavior.
Are any developers currently working on Oreo, or is this phone development dead?
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Are any developers currently working on Oreo, or is this phone development dead?
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DU, Pure Nexus are working on Oreo if you know of any other roms that support this device check their source you'll see branches for 8.0
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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localceleb said:
Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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My guess price this phone was super over priced compared to some of the other offerings in Android. Mid range is catching some great devices out there for little money
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I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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I'm staying on Nougat. Working TWRP recovery, running DU, and Franco Kernel. Seems like for me at least when I was on Oreo couldn't get the recovery to stick which was annoying. Went back to Nougat and all is well. Just have to wait for the Oreo's to start dropping.
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I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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I'm using a moto-x pure now so I hadn't payed any attention to the Pixel/PixelXL development scene at all. I pre ordered a Pixel 2 XL last night which made me go check out development on the Pixel XL out of curiosity. From what I gathered after some research last night it seems the 2016 pixels have a "non standard" way of handling updates. Apparently there are 2 partitions/slots for system/vendor (slot A and B). I'm not going into details what this means, but the short version is that it made things more difficult for custom recoveries to deal with. Even with all the right parts in place flashing a ROM/GAPPS/Root means taking extra steps that every other devices I've ever dealt with didn't need. Nothing major... just extra steps.
Like I said, that's a VERY basic explanation of the situation. Maybe somebody else is willing to go into more detail, but that's the gist of it. It does look to me though that the most popular ROMs have either an official or unofficial build available.
There's also something to be said about the state of "official android" now, which these phones run. At least to me there is significantly less reason to need/want a custom ROM now compared to just 2 years ago. Now that "official android" has themes capability via OMS and a lot of customization options there is not a whole lot I personally want anymore. My biggest thing is "long back press to kill" which can be had with an app if necessary, "advanced restart" menu and of course root.
I think if the only thing I can't have while sticking with the official builds is the "advanced restart" menu then I can deal with it, I can run terminal commands to achieve the same thing. I can imagine the Pixel 2 XL being my first android phone that I finally stick with the "official builds" + root for the life of the phone. I'm sure I'll end up playing with ROMs once they become available but I don't know if it will be much more than playing around... I've always used ROMs mostly to get the "stock android experience" because I like it.. but since this phone comes with it and will get VERY TIMELY android updates I can definitely see myself sticking with what's official and no ROMS. I ALMOST did it with my Moto X Pure.. moto's official builds were damn near AOSP and I used them until it became apparent that I could't rely of them for OS updates post Lenovo buying Motorola.
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Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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I can. The problem is with the dual slots. Pixel Dust was able to finally make a Oreo Rom for both Pixel and Pixel XL, however root is not possible yet. My suggestion if you want to be flash happy is to stay away from Google phones because from here on out they will all have dual slots.
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I'm staying on Nougat. Working TWRP recovery, running DU, and Franco Kernel. Seems like for me at least when I was on Oreo couldn't get the recovery to stick which was annoying. Went back to Nougat and all is well. Just have to wait for the Oreo's to start dropping.
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There was actually a updated twrp recovery this month and it sticks with Oreo now. Problem is that there is only one custom Rom for Oreo and currently root is not possible. That's with Pixel Dust Rom.
I check XDA at least 10 times a day hoping there will be something new to flash lol I can't be the only one who does this. I find myself venturing off into the OnePlus 5 forum from time to time just to look at all the development that's going on in there. Salivating and I'm tempted to purchase the OnePlus 5t but I love the Pixel 2 xl. Tuff choices
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I check XDA at least 10 times a day hoping there will be something new to flash lol I can't be the only one who does this. I find myself venturing off into the OnePlus 5 forum from time to time just to look at all the development that's going on in there. Salivating and I'm tempted to purchase the OnePlus 5t but I love the Pixel 2 xl. Tuff choices
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I find myself checking xda, but mostly the Q&A and discussion threads. I'd probably sell my old 128 GB XL and buy a 5t if it had universal radios like the Pixel since I'm on Verizon. The 2 XL would likely remain my daily driver, mainly because of the fantastic camera which it seems OnePlus can't compare to.
Once you use the pixel 2 camera nothing else is good enough. I had the pixel 2 but sold it, purchased a 5t, and then turned around and sold it 36 hours in for the pixel 2 XL. I couldn't settle without this camera experience.
I'll stay with my Pixel XL 2 flagship! But hey, go for the 5T if that's your buzz...
Does op5t have Android oreo?
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Once you use the pixel 2 camera nothing else is good enough. I had the pixel 2 but sold it, purchased a 5t, and then turned around and sold it 36 hours in for the pixel 2 XL. I couldn't settle without this camera experience.
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I had the same experience but with huawei mate 10 pro,sell it after 24 hours and got back my pixel 2 xl.
I'm in the same crack-flash-aholic boat
Now that I have TWRP, cust kernel, and root on my 2 XL, I'm waiting for Roms.
I'm not interested in the DP versions, so just watching development continue to move forward.
This is the first device I've had in hand prior to any development. It's very cool watching things grow and seeing all the talent, and creativity getting things working (kernels, TWRP, root, etc).
Kudos to everyone involved in getting the development gears turning!
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I'm in the same crack-flash-aholic boat
Now that I have TWRP, cust kernel, and root on my 2 XL, I'm waiting for Roms.
I'm not interested in the DP versions, so just watching development continue to move forward.
This is the first device I've had in hand prior to any development. It's very cool watching things grow and seeing all the talent, and creativity getting things working (kernels, TWRP, root, etc).
Kudos to everyone involved in getting the development gears turning!
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Dang AZ, ease up on the crack flashing, and just ride that chopper for a while! :good:
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Does op5t have Android oreo?
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I had the same experience but with huawei mate 10 pro,sell it after 24 hours and got back my pixel 2 xl.
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No, Oreo yet. Beta coming this month.
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No, Oreo yet. Beta coming this month.
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I know,i just referring that the development here is slow cause oreo is a new os and op5t has nougat only for now.
I haven't compiled AOSP from source since Gingerbread, but man...the temptation to try it just to see if it works (and to have something to flash/play with) is getting harder to resist.
Not even sure I could remember how to do it at this point, it's been so long.
I was thinking about this yesterday ironically. I used to flash ROMs a lot back on the Samsung line. Once I got the Pixel XL and XL2 I havent touched either. The stock setup is honestly great as it is. Part of me misses flashing, but like the stability and performance of the Google stock builds. I might be giving up a little with custom kernals but have been completely satisfied with both stock phones.
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I was thinking about this yesterday ironically. I used to flash ROMs a lot back on the Samsung line. Once I got the Pixel XL and XL2 I havent touched either. The stock setup is honestly great as it is. Part of me misses flashing, but like the stability and performance of the Google stock builds. I might be giving up a little with custom kernals but have been completely satisfied with both stock phones.
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I tend to feel the same way about the Pixel line. I flashed a few ROMs on the original XL but stability and performance was never quite up to par with stock. I gave up and have been using stock for about about 10 months now.
Hola
Indeed do I miss my flashing. I have a OP5 that I will be selling soon since I have received my P2XL. As many have mentioned the OnePlus series of phones have become what the original Nexus line was in terms of community affordability and development.
If I can get Pure Nexus on my P2XL then it would be sufficient for me in all honesty, provides the stability and yet extending the functionality and customizations we all crave for. I understand that Nate @BeansTown106 is caught up with some personal stuff and I'm not sure how or if any new development is in the works. This is one of the absolute best custom ROMs one could use. But us users can only wait and see...
This sounds like some sort of AA Thread lol. I also miss flashing. The need for custom ROMS is definitely dwindling though. I am usually okay with a custom kernel and substratum at this point
Stock rooted works fine for me. I do miss the following:
Back to kill app
Volume button to change track
Everything else I'm able to do to my liking.
Adaway works
Magisk works
Substrate works
And little other stock customizations work.
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Stock rooted works fine for me. I do miss the following:
Back to kill app
Volume button to change track
Everything else I'm able to do to my liking.
Adaway works
Magisk works
Substrate works
And little other stock customizations work.
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This is the longest I've had any Android device without routing, and I miss only one thing, back to kill.
AdGuard works perfectly, and I'm about to try Substratum, just need to see how to do it.
Sorry all, I have been using custom roms for a long time, I really don't know what goes into making one, so I apologize for my ignorance. I would think that by now there would be some custom roms for this device. Is it normal to take this amount of time to get a Google phone custom roms?thx in advance.
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Sorry all, I have been using custom roms for a long time, I really don't know what goes into making one, so I apologize for my ignorance. I would think that by now there would be some custom roms for this device. Is it normal to take this amount of time to get a Google phone custom roms?thx in advance.
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I'm wondering this as well. I thought it was because of the new display ratio, but those have been out for a while now, AND I was looking around the OP5T forums (because I just got one), and even that has some ROMs posted (though they're kinda alpha-ish), and it came out like a month later. I didn't see a single Pixel 2 XL ROM (and I was so confused I thought I was just somehow missing something).
I check XDA twice a day praying that I'll see Elemental Kernel show up.
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I check XDA twice a day praying that I'll see Elemental Kernel show up.
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Flar2 stated in the nexus 6p forum that it was coming latter this week! :good::good: