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[Q] Why A Nexus? Advantages of an OPEN DEVICE??

Hi guys, I have been on this forums for quite a while even though I don't own a Nexus myself. I have been browsing through the development section every day and looking at all the ROMs etc..
I know that everything is open on the Nexus, all the sources, drivers, etc. I know that the advantages of having a Nexus is stock experience, with faster updates directly from Google. But what is the advantage of having an open phone as a user? I don't find much difference between the ROMs for Galaxy S II and the ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus. In fact the Siyah kernel, i think, has many many more features than the most popular kernel on this forums, the Franco kernel.
I am not trying to spark up anything over here. I just want to know what is the benefit of having such an open phone?

Difference between being in a wheelchair in a jail cell, even a jail cell with a window and open field sunny day with your legs running however fast you can. Its like that.
let it be.

@rbiter said:
Difference between being in a wheelchair in a jail cell, even a jail cell with a window and open field sunny day with your legs running however fast you can. Its like that.
let it be.
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I would think that, but I can't see that translating to development. I mean, I must be blind to not be able to see the differences, but I really can't. I don't see any major improvements in the ROMs on the Galaxy Nexus

darkgoon3r96 said:
I know that the advantages of having a Nexus is stock experience, with faster updates directly from Google.
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You answered your own question.

I already had 2 not Nexus Samsung phones and I will never make this mistake again. The lack of updates, the crappy skin that tries to look as the iPhone, etc.
In my experience, the builds from Google are much more stable, fast and reliable. And nothing in TouchWiz add anything that matters to me. To me Android is Nexus, I dont think I will build anything that is not Nexus again (but I really hope that HTC build the next one, I love the build quality of their phones).

martonikaj said:
You answered your own question.
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Haha, that wasn't my question. I am not asking why the Nexus is a better device. I am asking how does opening up the sources and drivers improve on the development...

darkgoon3r96 said:
I would think that, but I can't see that translating to development. I mean, I must be blind to not be able to see the differences, but I really can't. I don't see any major improvements in the ROMs on the Galaxy Nexus
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Sorry man, but in my opinion the stock ICS on the GNexus is miles ahead of any build from the SII.

martonikaj said:
You answered your own question.
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The difference is some stuff on aosp
Roms still don't work on galaxy s2 but everything works on aosp roms on nexus because it's open and drivers and everything is available...
bottom line aokp cm9 etc will give u a better user experience on nexus fewer bugs
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darkgoon3r96 said:
Haha, that wasn't my question. I am not asking why the Nexus is a better device. I am asking how does opening up the sources and drivers improve on the development...
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Because your Galaxy Nexus comes with stock ICS out of the box. Sorry, but a custom ROM will never be as smooth and nice as the native out of the box OS.

juliano_q said:
Sorry man, but in my opinion the stock ICS on the GNexus is miles ahead of any build from the SII.
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I still don't get why you guys think the Stock is so much better than AOKP? I mean, isn't that very similar to stock?

OK, let me see if I can answer it. I'm not a developer, so take it with a grain of salt.
The phone I had before this was the Samsung Captivate. I bought it August 2010. At the time, it was one of the more advanced phones on the market. However, within about an hour of using it, I realized that the AT&T bloatware was a problem. Though the device had a lot of memory available, the app drawer was harder to navigate because of 15 different AT&T apps on the phone, most of which charged a monthly fee to do what Google's equivalent apps did for free. So, I had to root it.
Things were fine for a couple weeks, but then I noticed that there were several apps that I couldn't download because everyone was on Froyo and I was stuck on Eclair. There was no word when either samsung or AT&T was going to provide me with an update, so I had to take matters into my own hands and get a ROM from someone else. I'm not saying the devs didn't do a good job, but they were hamstrung by both AT&T and Sammy who were not giving them the tools they needed to do the job right the first time.
I should also point out that a lot of these problems were caused by AT&T's insistence that they have their own version of the Galaxy S that was different from everyone else's. Thankfully, all the carriers learned from that mistake.
Over the course of a year and 8 months, I tried at least a dozen different ROMs on my phone to either try to keep up with the changes in the market, or just to keep it from freezing. Even stock Gingerbread had problems, likely because it was rushed out. I finally found a stable build in a ROM that used ICS (ironically, ported from the GNex). So that meant, if not for the great work of Team ICSSGS, my Captivate would NEVER have been a stable phone. All those commercials about being a smartphone beta tester seemed to be designed with the Captivate in mind.
The point of all this: When it came time for me to get a new phone, I was considering waiting for the GSIII, but then Google offered the GNex off contract for $400, a not unreasonable price for the hardware at all, but what I was really paying for was getting off the treadmill. Now granted, at this point I've only had the phone for about a week, but it performs every function I need it to, and AT&T has no say in it. Samsung only had a say in the hardware. And that's how it should be, and honestly why I think Apple had such a marketing edge for such a long time. Apple told AT&T exactly where they can shove their customizations, and now we have Google doing the same, but not publicizing it enough.
TL;DR: Google experience and faster updates. But those are more valuable than you think.

darkgoon3r96 said:
I still don't get why you guys think the Stock is so much better than AOKP? I mean, isn't that very similar to stock?
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You just answered yourself... great roms/builds like aokp would not be possible without the Android Open Source Project. Even after saying that the quality on aosp devices running aokp like the gnex and ns are miles ahead of say the sensation or something along those lines due to the very face the the nexus phones have open source readily available.
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The open let's you literally change ans re-code any part of the device you want. A touch wiz phone cannot do this cause the code is closed.
Custom roms on other devices are not the same though you may think they are. Most of the time something doesn't work cause it relies on a closed touch wiz framework function that has to be reverse engineered or hacked, or usually never works at all..
You need the kernel source code to really make any legit custom rom, and often have to wait months foe it to be released.
With an open device, you literally can implement anything your imagination can cone up with. No bugs or work a rounds.

In my opinion, there are two major differences:
1. On a Nexus device, you are guaranteed a large developer community. The SGSII may have a large developer community, but that's because it's pretty much of the most popular phones. If you buy something like the Samsung Galaxy Infuse (which several of my friends have) then you won't have nearly as big a developer community as the one for the Galaxy Nexus.
2. It's much much easier to root/customize/flash a Nexus device than any other device. All you need is "fastboot oem unlock" and the phone opens up for you. No need for bootloader downgrading/rooting exploits/HTCDev/manufacturer restrictions. This phone is designed to be a developer device. Also, when you screw up a Nexus, it is much easier to solve problems. Phone not booting? Use CWM. Recovery borked? Fastboot. Fastboot not working? ODIN flash. Lots of fail-safes.

Thanks a lot guys for taking the time just to help me out

I got my gnex last wednesday. No regrets at all, it's an amazing phone. My next phone will definitely be another nexus.

Advantage of having a Nexus?
It is like Burger King, you can have it your own way.

[Q] Rooting Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I want to Root my Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint, Its EXTREMELY SLOOOOW!!
I think I'm running Lag as the OS instead of android that's how slow it is!! So can someone provide me with the proper way to root my phone and install CM10.1

It's almost like you didn't bother to read the stickies or even bother to ask in the right forum.
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Davion Harvey said:
I want to Root my Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint, Its EXTREMELY SLOOOOW!!
I think I'm running Lag as the OS instead of android that's how slow it is!! So can someone provide me with the proper way to root my phone and install CM10.1
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If you think you have to root a Nexus device you DO NOT have enough knowledge on technology to own a Nexus device. The bootloader is unlockable, there is never a need to root a Google Flagship Development Phone.

Nephilim said:
If you think you have to root a Nexus device you DO NOT have enough knowledge on technology to own a Nexus device. The bootloader is unlockable, there is never a need to root a Google Flagship Development Phone.
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The hell?? Soo because it was a superior phone it will NEVER slow down become unresponsive for hours even after multiple factory resets a replacement and having downloaded 0 apps!!!!? The fact that you'd say that I don't deserve my phone is the stupidest thing, based off what I posted you couldn't have possibly understand why the need to root and install a ****ing ROM that works. These phones are slooow as ice melting in a freezer. !

Davion Harvey said:
I want to Root my Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint, Its EXTREMELY SLOOOOW!!
I think I'm running Lag as the OS instead of android that's how slow it is!! So can someone provide me with the proper way to root my phone and install CM10.1
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058 maybe that will help or u can download nexus root toolkit (that worked for me
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Davion Harvey said:
So can someone provide me with the proper way to root my phone and install CM10.1
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Davion Harvey said:
The fact that you'd say that I don't deserve my phone is the stupidest thing, based off what I posted you couldn't have possibly understand why the need to root and install a ****ing ROM that works.
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^^^ these posts are the stupidest things.

Davion Harvey said:
The hell?? Soo because it was a superior phone it will NEVER slow down become unresponsive for hours even after multiple factory resets a replacement and having downloaded 0 apps!!!!? The fact that you'd say that I don't deserve my phone is the stupidest thing, based off what I posted you couldn't have possibly understand why the need to root and install a ****ing ROM that works. These phones are slooow as ice melting in a freezer. !
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This response proves my point, you do not know enough about development to own a flagship Google device. It has nothing to do with the gnex's "superiority". Google flagship devices have the open option to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery. Root is never necessary on a nexus branded device and if you have to ask how to root a phone that doesn't require rooting you probably shouldn't be unlocking it in the first place. I'm was not being rude in my last post and nothing I said had any relevance to your mindless banter about slow performance and unresponsiveness. Please just return your gnex and get a Motorola RAZR flip phone, that is more in the area of computer tech knowledge you belong in. Don't bother responding, your last response killed enough of everyone's brain cells.
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Davion Harvey said:
I want to Root my Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint, Its EXTREMELY SLOOOOW!!
I think I'm running Lag as the OS instead of android that's how slow it is!! So can someone provide me with the proper way to root my phone and install CM10.1
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as good of a rom as CM is you may want to look at some others too because there is a thread in Sprint GNex forum about fixing lag on CM/cm based roms. check out blackbean, sourcery, and i think purity is in the pipeline for sprint gnex.

Davion Harvey said:
I want to Root my Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint, Its EXTREMELY SLOOOOW!!
I think I'm running Lag as the OS instead of android that's how slow it is!! So can someone provide me with the proper way to root my phone and install CM10.1
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812959
Dude just follow the directions and u should be OK.... Like all post above me mention u don't need to root to unlock the boot loader
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New to Android, Just got the ZL - questions

I tried out a family member's S4 and I saw the potential that Android had over apple so I got a ZL for my upgrade.
I am a bit new (I've used iphone 4 for the past 3 years). I was wondering if someone can provide me with some sort of guide that I can read about android, and what I should be doing after getting a new phone to ensure it runs smoothly.
my opinion on the phone so far.
the screen is a little bad compared to the S4 screen. The black on the S4 vs the black on this phone are much different but apart from that, they are both teh same. I like the phone so far, I only need to be able to find the apps that I was able to find on ios now.

Well if you come here then do what most of us do after got an android phone...
ROOT it...flash a custom roms, you can get many in here if you search...then you are done...apps in ios sometimes the same in android...
There are some assential app after rooting just be sure to google it or ask here if to know more...
But rooting need a little base knowledge to do and hope if there is a step by step tutorial, be sure to follow them exactly...but rooting or rather unlocking boot loader will cancel warranty..so it's up to you...

gjtalin said:
I tried out a family member's S4 and I saw the potential that Android had over apple so I got a ZL for my upgrade.
I am a bit new (I've used iphone 4 for the past 3 years). I was wondering if someone can provide me with some sort of guide that I can read about android, and what I should be doing after getting a new phone to ensure it runs smoothly.
my opinion on the phone so far.
the screen is a little bad compared to the S4 screen. The black on the S4 vs the black on this phone are much different but apart from that, they are both teh same. I like the phone so far, I only need to be able to find the apps that I was able to find on ios now.
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For the time being, I'd advise against the above poster's suggestions. Don't look into rooting or custom ROMs or anything like that if you're new to Android. Android is a great operating system, highly customisable and more fun in my opinion than iOS. I wouldn't expect you to need to worry about making it run smoothly, for your needs, as the ZL is a powerful phone.
Just search through all the settings menus and enjoy the freedom of choice that iOS never gave you. In the standard Android that comes with the ZL (known as the 'stock' operating system around here) you can't break anything, so have fun with it! Download some apps on the Play store, and build up your knowledge from there.
When you're more familiar with your needs, and Android in general, then maybe you can look into advanced options. But for now, they're really not needed. Welcome to Android!

schnidex said:
For the time being, I'd advise against the above poster's suggestions. Don't look into rooting or custom ROMs or anything like that if you're new to Android. Android is a great operating system, highly customisable and more fun in my opinion than iOS. I wouldn't expect you to need to worry about making it run smoothly, for your needs, as the ZL is a powerful phone.
Just search through all the settings menus and enjoy the freedom of choice that iOS never gave you. In the standard Android that comes with the ZL (known as the 'stock' operating system around here) you can't break anything, so have fun with it! Download some apps on the Play store, and build up your knowledge from there.
When you're more familiar with your needs, and Android in general, then maybe you can look into advanced options. But for now, they're really not needed. Welcome to Android!
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you are right, I agree with you.
It's such a pain currently, trying to unlcok my old iphone and transfer contacts/texts to my ZL.. I honestly hate all this bs but its hard to find a free procedure to get all that done

gjtalin said:
you are right, I agree with you.
It's such a pain currently, trying to unlcok my old iphone and transfer contacts/texts to my ZL.. I honestly hate all this bs but its hard to find a free procedure to get all that done
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Heres a good guide to migrate contacts from an Iphone to Android. Im sure similar exists for moving over texts.
If you don't already have a gmail account - you're gonna want one to access the Android Play Store.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-transfer-your-contacts-between-iphone-and-android/

gjtalin said:
you are right, I agree with you.
It's such a pain currently, trying to unlcok my old iphone and transfer contacts/texts to my ZL.. I honestly hate all this bs but its hard to find a free procedure to get all that done
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You can download Sony's PC companion software. It has free transfer tools for iPhone users.
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needmoregigs said:
You can download Sony's PC companion software. It has free transfer tools for iPhone users.
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that program doesn't work for me.
I honestly thing sony just made up the program and made them crash each time.

gjtalin said:
I tried out a family member's S4 and I saw the potential that Android had over apple so I got a ZL for my upgrade.
I am a bit new (I've used iphone 4 for the past 3 years). I was wondering if someone can provide me with some sort of guide that I can read about android, and what I should be doing after getting a new phone to ensure it runs smoothly.
my opinion on the phone so far.
the screen is a little bad compared to the S4 screen. The black on the S4 vs the black on this phone are much different but apart from that, they are both teh same. I like the phone so far, I only need to be able to find the apps that I was able to find on ios now.
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Welcome to Android buddy! I came from iOS as well in December, and theres no way i'm ever going back. You should also have no issue finding your apps from iOS, as the google play store is just as good in my opinion. It has all the apps i ever used, plus more.

gjtalin said:
that program doesn't work for me.
I honestly thing sony just made up the program and made them crash each time.
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Bullmud
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sincere advise give it back mate, it's not that good compared to S4, HTC One, LG optimus G Pro btw I hate S4. If it's a cost thing may i suggest go for LG Optimus G Pro, you get more for your money. That's what I've got and I Ditching my zl

[LIST] How many people missed will wait for an exploit to S-off?

I would love to send my phone off and get it now but that's just not possible. I'm actually enjoying a bone stock device right now. If no exploit comes I think this is the first phone I could run stock and pretty much enjoy it.

I will wait, I am in no big hurry enjoying stock also.
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I actually did do the S-Off, and I'm running a 4.3 ROM and I'm not entirely convinced I'm going to stay this way. I think I may return to the BoneStock ROM. Sense is nice. If Verizon would let you remove their bloat it would be even better. I can understand pre-loading stuff but prohibiting us from removing apps we'll never in a million years use? That's crap.

I agree. I'm still locked down but its definitely the first device I love stock already. S3 was ok, but the One puts everything else to shame pretty much.
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First thing I did was get away from Sense 5. I never gave Blinkfeed a chance, I'll admit it, but I hate it on principle. I have flipboard and only have to look at it when I feel like it. I use Nova and it does everything that I need it to do and more. I have seen every iteration of Sense and liked it until Blinkfeed. I do have a question though; those of you that stayed with it, does Blinkfeed cause a noticeable drain on resources such as battery or data? Besides just being in my face, that was my major concern.

I agree that this is the first phone that I have owned that I am enjoying bone stock and locked. However, I get complaints from anyone I call on Bluetooth (with my car) that they are having a hard time hearing me. I had a S4 with this car and had no issue. Very hopeful that 4.3 and its Bluetooth updates will fix this problem as it is the only thing that is driving me nuts as I can't use the Bluetooth in my car at all right now.
Wish I could unlock and flash 4.3 to see if it fixes the problem

Blitzed26 said:
I agree that this is the first phone that I have owned that I am enjoying bone stock and locked. However, I get complaints from anyone I call on Bluetooth (with my car) that they are having a hard time hearing me. I had a S4 with this car and had no issue. Very hopeful that 4.3 and its Bluetooth updates will fix this problem as it is the only thing that is driving me nuts as I can't use the Bluetooth in my car at all right now.
Wish I could unlock and flash 4.3 to see if it fixes the problem
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I've got an f-150 with the SYNC system, it has been buggy since I bought it but so far no problems with this device, bluetooth media streaming and all.

I'm stock and I have no problem with it this way. Would I like to get rid of the bloat, run ad blocking, etc? Sure. Blinkfeed is like Feedly for grammar school or something. So I'm using Nova, which I like a lot.
So yes, I'm hoping someone comes up with (and shares) a root exploit. If 4.3 should arrive OTA, that will be a tough decision as to accept or not. Chances are I'll wait a bit to see what develops. Meanwhile, I'm loving this device.

chip.hughes said:
First thing I did was get away from Sense 5. I never gave Blinkfeed a chance, I'll admit it, but I hate it on principle. I have flipboard and only have to look at it when I feel like it. I use Nova and it does everything that I need it to do and more. I have seen every iteration of Sense and liked it until Blinkfeed. I do have a question though; those of you that stayed with it, does Blinkfeed cause a noticeable drain on resources such as battery or data? Besides just being in my face, that was my major concern.
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I enjoy BlinkFeed. I just switched it so it's not my home page. I have awesome battery life on this phone.

I don't think blinkfeed drains any battery whatsoever. I pretty much don't use it, but I really like the sense launcher so I deal with it.
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I am still up in the air about getting the s-off or not (at this current time - will probably do it eventually). I love the phone as is thus far...quick, decent battery, and I like how slim Sense has become - compared to froyo and gingerbread...
I am not entirely sold on the blinkfeed yet...it's cool...but I'm thinking it's because it is a novel item.

I'm still locked, I'm also fine with the stock ROM. I would like better backup options, and remove the Verizon bloat. I'd really like root access to block ads. I've also been a fan of Sense, but I don't care much for Blink feed. Right now I'm using the Nova launcher, and it works well for me. In either case, I'm keeping the phone, unlocked or not, but hopefully an exploit will be released for those of us who opt to not ship off our phone.

With blinkfeed removed I love sense 5.
I have it removed by default in my ROM.
you can easily add it back but once you do you can't remove it until re-flash.
it doesn't eat any battery while not in use from my experience..

one4thewings said:
I actually did do the S-Off, and I'm running a 4.3 ROM and I'm not entirely convinced I'm going to stay this way. I think I may return to the BoneStock ROM. Sense is nice. If Verizon would let you remove their bloat it would be even better. I can understand pre-loading stuff but prohibiting us from removing apps we'll never in a million years use? That's crap.
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Since you are rooted and unlocked.
Make a nandroid of the stock system, then remove all the bloat you want.
When it's time to take an OTA restore the nandroid and do it all over again.

I have a few days... Wish there was an equal device to switch to but this thing is an animal... The bloat is bs, and I really miss running mokee on my phone, and could build it for this one if we could get it unlocked... Really good factory sw but I've been on 4.3 with my atrix 2 since days after it came out, I just want some source code and an unlocked device... I think I'll wait, but I'm not locked down yet... This is my first HTC device, but code is easy, for anyone else that wants to tackle the lock down with me....
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and screw the bounty, I wanna do it for free, just like android is meant to be....
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daavvis said:
I have a few days... Wish there was an equal device to switch to but this thing is an animal... The bloat is bs, and I really miss running mokee on my phone, and could build it for this one if we could get it unlocked... Really good factory sw but I've been on 4.3 with my atrix 2 since days after it came out, I just want some source code and an unlocked device... I think I'll wait, but I'm not locked down yet... This is my first HTC device, but code is easy, for anyone else that wants to tackle the lock down with me....
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and screw the bounty, I wanna do it for free, just like android is meant to be....
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That my friend is a true Android statement!! Although I believe whoever does figure something out would deserve it for the work that goes into it. After all this is a free hobby for most people besides buying new phones.

forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.

andybones said:
forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.
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You can go into manage apps and disable some things. That's what I did anyway. Not sure of another way though.

andybones said:
forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.
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I think gray made a zip files in the original android Dev section.
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cstrife999 said:
I think gray made a zip files in the original android Dev section.
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the OP above you was what I was thinking of.

[Q] help Root SCH-i535PP on 4.4.2

Ive been searching night and day trying to find a way to root my galaxy S3 (SCH-i535) running 4.4.2 . Ive come up empty handed and as may know TOWEL ROOT DOES NOT WORK ON THIS BUILD. The most progress I have made is unlocking developer options with 7-tap doctrine. (haha) So this is pretty much a "calling all car" for those out there who are well versed in the art of rooting and all things $ sudo.
Info on safely reverting to an android OS that is rootable would also be useful.
l or any knowledge about the SCH-I535PP on 4.4.3 (pre paid verizon Galaxy S3) and exploits discovers .
Im lightly knowledgeable in Terminal, soooooo. If any one knows some work arounds or anything that would at least make me smile please feel free to write.
Tell me me what you all know and restore my faith in the power of the internet community.
much love,
-Lifehertz

ive also been looking
ive also been looking to root my phone also. all ive been able to dig up is possible roms that might be flashable with this model. and help would be greatly appreciated!

I knew I wasnt alone.
For some reason i have faith that someone is working on getting this phone rootable.
Until then lets keep the conversation going.
Do you have any links to these rims. Also, what are your thoughts?

I want root too because this phone is not compatible with samsung gear apps for my neo...very heartbreaking. ..wanted to put more apps on my watch but can't because this verizon galaxy s3 prepaid is not updated like all the other ones.....

Hey guys, I'm just posting to join in the misery. I feel like a hero for getting past the activation setup wizard! I have spent many hours researching how to root this stupid phone, and at this point its my white whale. There will be a way eventually, and this thread can be our anchor when that day comes. If anyone has a problem with the setup wizard, let me know.

The white whale under my friend.
Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
Because if it has been a short amount of time then the true developers and root wizards
Probably haven't had much need or want to work on a root for this phone.
I am noticing though after walmart dropped the price of the phone severely
And christmas came around. There are a Lot of new SCH-I535PP users. So maybe if we keep asking around and raising awareness about this build needing root, then a root genie will hear the cries of the community and get to work granting us our wish.
Verizon really locked this up with the recent update. This phone is two years old and there are many stronger phones coming out the root gods are focusing on blessing. But, its not hard to see that the SCH-I535PP is fantastic tool for its price point.
Please, anyone who reads this and is well versed in rooting phones, please do the SCH-I535PP community a solid and help us step out from being the prison bars of 4.4.2.
Thank you for letting me ramble. I hope it helped keep the spirit alive. Haha

Disclaimer: I'm an android noob, and everything in this post could be wrong. I'm just trying.
lifehertz said:
Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
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I know that version of kitkat was released on June 2nd, 2014, if that helps.
I don't understand whether ALL sch-i535 after that date are blocked from rooting, or ONLY the sch-i535pp (prepaid) version. I've read conflicting things because the circumstances change over time, but the threads on forums stay the same. What was true 5 months ago might not be true anymore.
I believe (could be wrong) that every single phone that was updated after June 2nd is completely SOL and blocked from being rooted. I think Towelroot was the last thing that worked for anybody, and even that method is lost to ANYTHING with a Kernel date of June 3rd or later. Mine is July 22nd. I believe the truth is that the vast majority of people that are rooted are just not updating to KitKat because they know it will un-root them and the party is over. I think that anyone with a phone that is old but updated to kitkat can reset to factory and get back to JellyBean or whatever version they originally had that can be rooted. So that leaves a small, but growing population that just simply can't root because we have the newest galaxy S3s with late kernel dates off the shelf . It's just getting harder and harder to find exploits. They guy who wrote towelroot works for google now, finding/fixing exploits that he once used to hack phones.
Either the population will catch up with us 'un-rootables' or they will leave us behind as bigger and better things come along. The Galaxy S3 is (kind of) yesterday's problem. I'm just sayin.....

I truly hate to be the burden of bad news but I can't say I'm surprised by verizon finally locking down the S3. The contract version was rumored to have been locked down with a version past the last official OTA of 4.4.2 but it seems that the pp version was moved to 4.4.3 which in all seriousness was then locked down by big red
Going forward I'd stay away from verizon as far as phones go, the short version of this is the fact that they will try anything possible to lock down every android phone they can
My S3 running BlissStalk

Damn it. The mutiny. The injustice!
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?

lifehertz said:
Any suggestions?
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Don't bother with the Aquos Crystal. It's such a great phone for the price, but it hasn't been rooted yet. I have one, and I enjoy it for the stock.

lifehertz said:
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?
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Sadly I don't off hand no, I moved over to straight talk and thankfully can get almost any phone I'd like. I'm currently debating on a Nexus 5
My S3 running BlissStalk

I Have An Idea!!!!!!!!
How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.

sezamer66 said:
How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.
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If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 5

ShapesBlue said:
If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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sezamer66 said:
I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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On the S3 I've been around here and seen many people do just that. While it may be an option on other devices even the VZW S5 it will not work on the S3
Sent from my Nexus 5

I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol

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I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol
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While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
Sent from my Nexus 5

ShapesBlue said:
While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
Sent from my Nexus 5
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And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.

sezamer66 said:
And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.
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I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
Sent from my Optipop N5

ShapesBlue said:
I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
Sent from my Optipop N5
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I want to root this phone too. The kingroot 4.1 do not work phone just reboot.