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Rattling Sound

I haven't seen a post about this yet, but just something I happened up.
I was sitting on the couch, flipping my phone from hand to hand while watching my 11 month old son crawl around the living room, and just happened to hear some weird rattling going on, coming from the phone. I'm not sure what it is, but I have a feeling it's the lens for the camera.
Now, note, this only happened when it came to a very quick/forceful stop (as in it landed on the ground). Obviously this sounds alot worse than it was, but I'm just curious if anyone else noticed this. If I shake it, I don't get any rattle at all. Just curious if anyone else noticed this.

It's the camera, and is normal.

Yeah I didn't notice it until today after two weeks with the phone.
Thankfully my experience with other androids let me know it was normal for the camera

It might be the volume rocker. My camera does not rattle but my volume rocker does.
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Bear55 said:
It might be the volume rocker. My camera does not rattle but my volume rocker does.
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Definitely the camera. Hold the volume rocker and do it, you'll see it still happens. Ah well, just making sure.

Was playing with my camera this morning taking pictures of my son, and noticed this....are others having the same picture quality issues like this with light? I didn't seem to remember having these when I first got the phone. Perhaps I'm wrong.....Specifically notice how the light in the doorway is banding up and down like that? I tried it also looking at a window and TV and the same thing happened. Not sure exactly why it does that, but I know that my Motorola Droid X didn't have that issue.
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My nexus works fine! I may sound silly here but is the camera lens clean?
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hurston2510 said:
My nexus works fine! I may sound silly here but is the camera lens clean?
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Yeah, wiped it a few times with a LCD screen wipe.
It just actually gets stranger. I was planning on taking it back, and put the original (1850 mAH) battery back in, and checked and it looked fine. I thought, what the hell, so I went back to my extended battery, and it looked fine again now too. I'm not sure whats going on, but for some reason it was making those 'light streaks' and I got no clue why. I'm sorta hesitant to take it back now, since it isn't doing it anymore. No point because they won't exchange it anyway.

darkhawkff said:
Yeah, wiped it a few times with a LCD screen wipe.
It just actually gets stranger. I was planning on taking it back, and put the original (1850 mAH) battery back in, and checked and it looked fine. I thought, what the hell, so I went back to my extended battery, and it looked fine again now too. I'm not sure whats going on, but for some reason it was making those 'light streaks' and I got no clue why. I'm sorta hesitant to take it back now, since it isn't doing it anymore. No point because they won't exchange it anyway.
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I wouldn't of thought the battery would make the camera cause those light streaks, if it was me personally of keep an eye on it. I'd definitely take it back if it happens again !!
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mine rattles but its not the camera the sound comes from the bottom of the device and is really loud when the vibration is on I'd send it back to handtec but I cbf waiting for it to return
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mine rattles but its not the camera the sound comes from the bottom of the device and is really loud when the vibration is on I'd send it back to handtec but I cbf waiting for it to return
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I'm not sure how much of a difference the LTE and GSM have, but I know mine is coming from the area of the camera. I can try and make just the bottom rattle and it never happens, but if I do the same to the top, it rattles from somewhere around the camera lens. Either way, the camera seems fine now. Was taking Christmas Pictures all night and no issues!

darkhawkff said:
Definitely the camera. Hold the volume rocker and do it, you'll see it still happens. Ah well, just making sure.
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I guess that I have a tiny camera rattle too but the volume rocker rattles much louder. The camera rattle is not audible over the noise that my volume rocker makes. My Droid Charge had a much louder camera rattle.

Best fitness band as an alarm?

I'm looking for a fitness band which I'm primarily going to use as an silent alarm and secondary to track my steps. It should also be able to sync with Android.
I've heard that some fitness bands are really bad at waking one up as the vibration is too weak, thus I'm looking for some recommendations on fitness bands that does a great job waking one up!
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I'm looking for a fitness band which I'm primarily going to use as an silent alarm and secondary to track my steps. It should also be able to sync with Android.
I've heard that some fitness bands are really bad at waking one up as the vibration is too weak, thus I'm looking for some recommendations on fitness bands that does a great job waking one up!
Thanks!
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I don't know if it's the "BEST" but I have some runner friends who have FitBits and I've heard them talking about this before. I didn't pay close attention to hear which fitness band they said was a weak alarm, but I know they've said the FitBit works well as an alarm. I don't know if you're close to a store that has these things to try on, but if you are, ask the associate if you can try them out and feel which is the most jolting.

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I don't know if it's the "BEST" but I have some runner friends who have FitBits and I've heard them talking about this before. I didn't pay close attention to hear which fitness band they said was a weak alarm, but I know they've said the FitBit works well as an alarm. I don't know if you're close to a store that has these things to try on, but if you are, ask the associate if you can try them out and feel which is the most jolting.
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Thanks for your input!
The thing is, I would probably have to fall asleep with one to actually know if it could easily wake me up from the vibration. That's why I thought it would help asking people who might be experienced with one.

QNBT said:
Thanks for your input!
The thing is, I would probably have to fall asleep with one to actually know if it could easily wake me up from the vibration. That's why I thought it would help asking people who might be experienced with one.
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Yeah I hear you. Trying them on in a store is one thing but napping on the couch is another matter altogether. I even tried to do a bit of searching on google for this but came up short. Best bet might be to check some running blogs or the one particular reviewer I always used to recommend to people:
dcrainmaker.com

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Yeah I hear you. Trying them on in a store is one thing but napping on the couch is another matter altogether. I even tried to do a bit of searching on google for this but came up short. Best bet might be to check some running blogs or the one particular reviewer I always used to recommend to people:
dcrainmaker.com
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Thanks, I'll check it out!

QNBT said:
Thanks for your input!
The thing is, I would probably have to fall asleep with one to actually know if it could easily wake me up from the vibration. That's why I thought it would help asking people who might be experienced with one.
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Note that you don't necessarily have to get the fitbit force or the fitbit flex to use as an alarm. The fitbit one also comes with a wrist strap for night time use. In fact, I would recommend getting the fitbit one instead of the strap versions unless if you specifically want a strap version because both the Force and Flex are known to have issues.

snapper.fishes said:
Note that you don't necessarily have to get the fitbit force or the fitbit flex to use as an alarm. The fitbit one also comes with a wrist strap for night time use. In fact, I would recommend getting the fitbit one instead of the strap versions unless if you specifically want a strap version because both the Force and Flex are known to have issues.
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Thanks for the heads up! I specifically want a strap because of its convenience, maybe I should stay out of fitbit then? I'm leaning towards Jawbone as of now, still undecided. If anyone have a suggestion of another forum created for outdoors people, feel free to share them.
Edit: so I orded the Jawbone Up24, gonna pick it up tomorrow and see if it will work.

@QNBT
Hi I'm curious about this as well, my gf is traumatized by my alarm clock and I wanted to try out some silent alarms. Can you share your experience with the jawbone? Was looking at the zband but I'm having second thoughts..

Xaeons said:
@QNBT
Hi I'm curious about this as well, my gf is traumatized by my alarm clock and I wanted to try out some silent alarms. Can you share your experience with the jawbone? Was looking at the zband but I'm having second thoughts..
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If you're ONLY going to use it as an alarm clock/sleep tracker, then you should consider this product. You're able to check your infographics on the app easily and they're summarized pretty neatly. You can also opt for a weekly recap which will be sent to your inbox (see attached image).
With the new software update you're able to get "up to 14 days" battery. Since I kinda only used it for sleep tracking/alarm it does surpass at least 10 days. I've only used it for about 2 weeks myself, and I recharged it before the battery went out, thus I'm not able to confirm 14 days of usage without recharge. I still think 10 - 12 days is good, previously the battery was marketed as only lasting 7 days (again, not able to confirm as I updated my device on the second day), it takes really really fast to recharge anyways.
However, a lot of things outside that scope is broken. Reminder alarms (used for bedtime reminder etc.) will still go off if you go to bed earlier, even with "sleep mode" (sleep tracking mode) set to on, which is kinda ironic as it will wake you up instead. The step counter out of the box is insanely inaccurate, it even counts your steps when you're asleep, sometimes I got over 300 steps after waking up. You are able to calibrate it, but since I don't care too much for it I haven't done that yet. As for food tracking, according to the forum people seem to think it lacks functionalities, or maybe they're just greedy (haven't used this function at all).
People have also been asking for vibration(patterns) upon receiving notifications for over a year. While the forum admin has responded that it was a "great idea" (paraphrased), there has been no more news on that.
To recap, great battery life, work great as an alarm/sleep tracker, the rest of its feature is "ok".
You can check out other screenshots on their website, but since they don't show off the weekly recap I though I'd include a screenshot of it:
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Thank you for your prompt reply. Indeed I only intend to use it as a silent alarm clock. Another question though, would you say you are a deep sleeper? How strong is the vibration and is it able to wake you up gently as opposed to abruptly?

Xaeons said:
Thank you for your prompt reply. Indeed I only intend to use it as a silent alarm clock. Another question though, would you say you are a deep sleeper? How strong is the vibration and is it able to wake you up gently as opposed to abruptly?
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I'm no longer deep sleeper now that I'm omw of reverting my sleeping routines to normal hours. During the course of using this product I've been woken during times when I'm about to wake up and during snoozes (those times when I wake up before the alarm). I'd say it wakes you up pretty gently, the vibration isn't too strong but it won't stop vibrating unless you press the button.

Do your Tab S speakers distort sound?

HI all,
Over in the UK, and ordered my first ever android device which I got 2 weeks ago (TAB S 8.4 T705). I am led to believe any issues with it will be sorted more quickly before the "golden month cooling down period" has expired, so I am spending many hours trying to test it all and make sure it's working properly before the 4 weeks is up. The sound on the Tab S has not gained many good reviews, and is often classed as "average", yet I would currently put it at "below average". There are many things to like about this tablet, and I will live with the very limited speaker performance as long I am confident this is "normal". I would like to ask you guys if the TAB S speakers distort for you. Most of the time the sound is acceptable, but once I increase to over 70%, I can hear a rough sound accompanying it. (no problem with ear phones btw)
Please would you do the following and let me know what you hear:
Bring up the alarm clock and select the sound "Soft Breeze Waltz". While adjusting the slider for volume, do you hear distortion with the piano sounds with a volume over 40 or 50%?
I am new to this forum, so I hope to stick around and learn a thing or two.
Thanks for reading and hopefully reporting back.

I would not expect too much from those tiny little speakers, you might have the bass set too high, try different profiles or do a custom if possible.
EDIT: OK i had to give it a go, I played "Soft Breeze Waltz" at 100% volume and there was very little if any distortion, maybe the 10.5" has different speakers.
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
I would not expect too much from those tiny little speakers, you might have the bass set too high, try different profiles or do a custom if possible.
EDIT: OK i had to give it a go, I played "Soft Breeze Waltz" at 100% volume and there was very little if any distortion, maybe the 10.5" has different speakers.
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Hi John, thanks for replying to me.
Yeah, I won't expect much from those speakers, but I want my brand new Tab to work as Samsung intended it to work. I got to play around with the Tab 4 for a few days over xmas, and I never noticed any issues with the speakers on that, and I feel certain they were much better.
Thanks for testing out that alarm sound, but perhaps there is a difference in speakers with the 10.5 like you said. Regarding equalizers, that only seems to apply when listening to music, and I don't get an option for that when setting the alarm. I will grab some sound apps and see if that does anything, but now you tell me you didn't get any distortion, makes me wonder if I should try for a replacement. I am really happy with it apart from this. It's certain tones that are most noticeable, like piano, and that melody clearly sounds s#it over 50% volume. If anyone else who has the 8.4 model is happy to test theirs, I would be grateful for your feedback.
Nick

Tbh I find the speakers perfectly acceptable on my 10.5 and just as I would expect. I haven't noticed any distortion at louder levels. I'll do some tests.

ashyx said:
Tbh I find the speakers perfectly acceptable on my 10.5 and just as I would expect. I haven't noticed any distortion at louder levels. I'll do some tests.
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This is frustrating. Ordered a book cover for it and really intend on keeping it, but the sound on it just seems less than acceptable, but I do have a keen ear for sound and music. I can't see the speakers being any different between the 8.4 and 10.5, so maybe there could be an issue with mine. Yeah, try that test out, thanks. Still hoping someone with the same model as mine might pipe in.

Does the sound quality sound the same from either speaker, if it does it`s unlikely you to have two faulty speakers.
Have you asked anybody else to listen to the sound quality to see if they hear the same distortion that you do.
John.
I found a review of the loudspeaker when compared to other tablets.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_84-review-1095p7.php
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Does the sound quality sound the same from either speaker, if it does it`s unlikely you to have two faulty speakers.
Have you asked anybody else to listen to the sound quality to see if they hear the same distortion that you do.
John.
I found a review of the loudspeaker when compared to other tablets.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_84-review-1095p7.php
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Thanks for that. You made a good point, but speakers could still be affected by a driver issue making them both sound bad. However, the top speaker does seem to be a lot worse than the bottom one, so thanks for pointing that out. I saw mixed reviews about the speakers, from saying they are good (like above), and others saying they were disappointing and "tinny" and "inviting distortion" when cranking up the volume.
Reviews of course can be subjective. I think if this was normal, there'd be many more people complaining about them, so I will call Samsung on Monday and ask them. Hopefully they won't try and repair it, and just give me a replacement. Cheers for your help.

I tested the alarm file and it did sound a little raspy at the top end on full vol.
So I played Happy by Pharrell mp3. At full whack it had a little distortion until I turned the vol down to 12 from 15.
It's nothing I wouldn't have expected and perfectly acceptable to me.
I compared the same track to my HTC One_M8 which is known for its speakers and audio quality and Tbh not much different.
Still some distortion at the top end at full vol.

ashyx said:
I tested the alarm file and it did sound a little raspy at the top end on full vol.
So I played Happy by Pharrell mp3. At full whack it had a little distortion until I turned the vol down to 12 from 15.
It's nothing I wouldn't have expected and perfectly acceptable to me.
I compared the same track to my HTC One_M8 which is known for its speakers and audio quality and Tbh not much different.
Still some distortion at the top end at full vol.
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I looked for that MP3 "Happy" and downloaded it from Faxo.com, so assuming we both have the same file recorded at same volume, then I had the same experience. In fact, in made me wonder if I was being a fussy git. Just that you expect the pre-installed alarm melodies to play really well.
I could send this one back, and the next could have more serious problems, so I am re-evaluating what to do now :/

Sometime they distort but it depends on the audio played.
Instead I've got a different problem, audio doesn't seem centered. I mean the "balance" seems to be slightly on right. Right speaker is louder, do you have such an issue?

zooster said:
Sometime they distort but it depends on the audio played.
Instead I've got a different problem, audio doesn't seem centered. I mean the "balance" seems to be slightly on right. Right speaker is louder, do you have such an issue?
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Yes, it does depend on what is played. These speakers do not handle piano tones well at all, while other sounds seem OK. Interesting you talk about the right (top) being louder, as that's the one that seems to be distorting more for me, or perhaps it's just that it's louder! Samsung are going to pick it up from me and send me a new replacement anyway, which is good, because I'll be forever regretting not trying. I'd still be happy with it even if this was normal for the Tab S...just can't bare the idea of having a deficient device.
For anyone that's interested... I learned how to get the test page up where you can test all the hardware.
1. Open calculator
2. Type in (+30,012,012,732+
3. On the large keypad, type in *#0*#
You should then have a load of buttons to test all your hardware.

Vibration sounds "loose"

This just started yesterday, US unlocked model. Never dropped it either. All of a sudden, the vibration when clicking buttons, typing, etc, sounds loose and there is an audible "click" sound (not touch sound click) accompanying it. Anyone else have this happen? Unlocked, S-Off, rooted. I may have to send it in, just wondering if anyone else has it.

Looks like no one else, makes me think it's definitely hardware related, guess it's replacement/repair time.

Got the replacement all set up, this is the first htc phone I've had to send back. I kept looking through the threads about the right process for this - go back to s-on, then relock bootloader, and then run the ruu. I think that is the correct order, correct?

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Got the replacement all set up, this is the first htc phone I've had to send back. I kept looking through the threads about the right process for this - go back to s-on, then relock bootloader, and then run the ruu. I think that is the correct order, correct?
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Yes, you may need sunshine to make it S-OFF LOCKED, then go back to S-ON LOCKED, then flash the RUU, there you go.

Cool, thank you.

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Cool, thank you.
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Honestly I have always felt like HTC phones have had somewhat of a loose vibration feeling, compared to say a samsung or iphone, where its basically the opposite.

Yea, it's not very strong, but it is definitely different than it was last week. Something came loose inside.

metalfan78 said:
This just started yesterday, US unlocked model. Never dropped it either. All of a sudden, the vibration when clicking buttons, typing, etc, sounds loose and there is an audible "click" sound (not touch sound click) accompanying it. Anyone else have this happen? Unlocked, S-Off, rooted. I may have to send it in, just wondering if anyone else has it.
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Ummm my Sprint variant just started to do this. I have the profile widget on the left side of screen and when I toggle vibrate mode it sounds "loose" or rattling. Now it doesn't do this all the time, but its there. I have also noticed it when typing a text. So you took yours back? I'm already on my 2nd 10 as the first one drained 3% battery every couple minutes straight out of the box. I'm way passed the 14 day mark at Sprint and would prob get a refurb anyways.

I bought mine from HTC so I had to send it in and they are sending me a replacement.

Another problem I continued to have is the SD card would continuously unmount. Hopefully the new one is a better quality unit.

Went into Sprint tonight and showed the tech the rattling noise from vibration feedback. He said yea that's not right. They ordered me another and will be here Tuesday. This will be my 3rd!

That's good. Sucks that you are on your 3rd one already though.

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That's good. Sucks that you are on your 3rd one already though.
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Hoping the 3rd one has no issues. Really digging this phone, but man if I keep having issues may have to move on to something else!

I had the same vibration problem. Almost like something rattling inside against the body of the phone.
As it was only 2 weeks old I got a direct replacement next day.

Yea, that's exactly what it sounded like. Got my replacement yesterday, back to rooted and S-Off last night. Hopefully it's not an ongoing issue.

This is ridiculous. Now my camera is borked. Gotta get ANOTHER replacement

Well, htc's customer service really sucks.

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Well, htc's customer service really sucks.
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What are they gonna do for you?
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I have to wait 3-5 days just to talk to the escalation department. They refuse to just replace the phone, even though they sent me a defective one. 3 live chats, 2 phone calls, ridiculous.

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Question Problems with S pen pro

Hey all!
I bought the s pen pro for my fold 3. As a pasive pen it works, but i cannot get it to pair for smart bluetooth capabilities even if i press and hold the pairing button. Has someone experienced this? Is there any fix?

had the same issues. had to go into phone settings and type in S Pen... and play around in air action settings.

Thanks...got it. Completwly different to what youtube videos show.
Small tip when messing in s pen settings in air actions you can unpair if the pen is acting up

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Thanks...got it. Completwly different to what youtube videos show.
Small tip when messing in s pen settings in air actions you can unpair if the pen is acting up
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yea it definitely didnt work straight out the box like the earbuds do

I got lucky and mine paired immediately. Even told me how much battery life it had right out of the box which was 10%.

As soon as I turned mine on, I got a pop-up on my ZF3 to pair it. Then when I switched to SPen mode from Fold mode, I got the same pop-up on my Note 20 Ultra

My s pen pro will not connect to fold 3. It does great with tab s7. I am switching to z fold mode and nothing. My fold does not have any settings for pen or air settings anywhere. Any suggestions? Return pen as defective or is it the crappy Samsung software again? Tried the turn on and Off. It flashes blue. NOTHING. Blue tooth does not see it.

There are instructions that come with the pen, and it was ridiculously easy to pair. However, I'm at a loss finding any use for it, so haven't used it since the day it came (it was free with the Samsung credit). What does everyone use it for? (Gestures are useless to me as I won't remember them.)

You seriously can't remember for gestures that are the exact same in each Direction the only probably used to ever you can't be that brainless not trying to be rude come on the only problem I have is whenever I pulled the pin out I have to reconnect it every time for gestures to work and it's not like I can return the item

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You seriously can't remember for gestures that are the exact same in each Direction the only probably used to ever you can't be that brainless not trying to be rude come on the only problem I have is whenever I pulled the pin out I have to reconnect it every time for gestures to work and it's not like I can return the item
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How is that not trying to be rude? Yes, I would not be able to remember what the gestures are or are for. Not that my medical records are any of your business, but I have a diagnosed memory disability since my teen years (got accommodations for it in high school). Not everyone has the same abilities you do in life.

ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
How is that not trying to be rude? Yes, I would not be able to remember what the gestures are or are for. Not that my medical records are any of your business, but I have a diagnosed memory disability since my teen years (got accommodations for it in high school). Not everyone has the same abilities you do in life.
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Even mild dyslexia can play with one at times and is relatively common. I know.
Goodlock has Navstar to make customizable nav buttons... if that helps.
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Even mild dyslexia can play with one at times and is relatively common. I know.
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Dyslexia is not a memory problem.

ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
Dyslexia is not a memory problem.
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Actually I think it is. Otherwise it be easy to commit the difference of d or b to memory for example. What you described is a classic symptom of dyslexia.

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Actually I think it is. Otherwise it be easy to commit the difference of d or b to memory for example. What you described is a classic symptom of dyslexia.
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It isn't about forgetting what they look like, but the way the brain sees the letters/words differently from normal brains. It is a neurological problem.
My problem is a memory-based learning disability, as is was diagnosed after testing.

ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
It isn't about forgetting what they look like, but the way the brain sees the letters/words differently from normal brains. It is a neurological problem.
My problem is a memory-based learning disability, as is was diagnosed after testing.
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Nicotine probably would help...
Provigil very likely would help.