HI all,
Over in the UK, and ordered my first ever android device which I got 2 weeks ago (TAB S 8.4 T705). I am led to believe any issues with it will be sorted more quickly before the "golden month cooling down period" has expired, so I am spending many hours trying to test it all and make sure it's working properly before the 4 weeks is up. The sound on the Tab S has not gained many good reviews, and is often classed as "average", yet I would currently put it at "below average". There are many things to like about this tablet, and I will live with the very limited speaker performance as long I am confident this is "normal". I would like to ask you guys if the TAB S speakers distort for you. Most of the time the sound is acceptable, but once I increase to over 70%, I can hear a rough sound accompanying it. (no problem with ear phones btw)
Please would you do the following and let me know what you hear:
Bring up the alarm clock and select the sound "Soft Breeze Waltz". While adjusting the slider for volume, do you hear distortion with the piano sounds with a volume over 40 or 50%?
I am new to this forum, so I hope to stick around and learn a thing or two.
Thanks for reading and hopefully reporting back.
I would not expect too much from those tiny little speakers, you might have the bass set too high, try different profiles or do a custom if possible.
EDIT: OK i had to give it a go, I played "Soft Breeze Waltz" at 100% volume and there was very little if any distortion, maybe the 10.5" has different speakers.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I would not expect too much from those tiny little speakers, you might have the bass set too high, try different profiles or do a custom if possible.
EDIT: OK i had to give it a go, I played "Soft Breeze Waltz" at 100% volume and there was very little if any distortion, maybe the 10.5" has different speakers.
John.
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Hi John, thanks for replying to me.
Yeah, I won't expect much from those speakers, but I want my brand new Tab to work as Samsung intended it to work. I got to play around with the Tab 4 for a few days over xmas, and I never noticed any issues with the speakers on that, and I feel certain they were much better.
Thanks for testing out that alarm sound, but perhaps there is a difference in speakers with the 10.5 like you said. Regarding equalizers, that only seems to apply when listening to music, and I don't get an option for that when setting the alarm. I will grab some sound apps and see if that does anything, but now you tell me you didn't get any distortion, makes me wonder if I should try for a replacement. I am really happy with it apart from this. It's certain tones that are most noticeable, like piano, and that melody clearly sounds s#it over 50% volume. If anyone else who has the 8.4 model is happy to test theirs, I would be grateful for your feedback.
Nick
Tbh I find the speakers perfectly acceptable on my 10.5 and just as I would expect. I haven't noticed any distortion at louder levels. I'll do some tests.
ashyx said:
Tbh I find the speakers perfectly acceptable on my 10.5 and just as I would expect. I haven't noticed any distortion at louder levels. I'll do some tests.
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This is frustrating. Ordered a book cover for it and really intend on keeping it, but the sound on it just seems less than acceptable, but I do have a keen ear for sound and music. I can't see the speakers being any different between the 8.4 and 10.5, so maybe there could be an issue with mine. Yeah, try that test out, thanks. Still hoping someone with the same model as mine might pipe in.
Does the sound quality sound the same from either speaker, if it does it`s unlikely you to have two faulty speakers.
Have you asked anybody else to listen to the sound quality to see if they hear the same distortion that you do.
John.
I found a review of the loudspeaker when compared to other tablets.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_84-review-1095p7.php
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Does the sound quality sound the same from either speaker, if it does it`s unlikely you to have two faulty speakers.
Have you asked anybody else to listen to the sound quality to see if they hear the same distortion that you do.
John.
I found a review of the loudspeaker when compared to other tablets.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_84-review-1095p7.php
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Thanks for that. You made a good point, but speakers could still be affected by a driver issue making them both sound bad. However, the top speaker does seem to be a lot worse than the bottom one, so thanks for pointing that out. I saw mixed reviews about the speakers, from saying they are good (like above), and others saying they were disappointing and "tinny" and "inviting distortion" when cranking up the volume.
Reviews of course can be subjective. I think if this was normal, there'd be many more people complaining about them, so I will call Samsung on Monday and ask them. Hopefully they won't try and repair it, and just give me a replacement. Cheers for your help.
I tested the alarm file and it did sound a little raspy at the top end on full vol.
So I played Happy by Pharrell mp3. At full whack it had a little distortion until I turned the vol down to 12 from 15.
It's nothing I wouldn't have expected and perfectly acceptable to me.
I compared the same track to my HTC One_M8 which is known for its speakers and audio quality and Tbh not much different.
Still some distortion at the top end at full vol.
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I tested the alarm file and it did sound a little raspy at the top end on full vol.
So I played Happy by Pharrell mp3. At full whack it had a little distortion until I turned the vol down to 12 from 15.
It's nothing I wouldn't have expected and perfectly acceptable to me.
I compared the same track to my HTC One_M8 which is known for its speakers and audio quality and Tbh not much different.
Still some distortion at the top end at full vol.
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I looked for that MP3 "Happy" and downloaded it from Faxo.com, so assuming we both have the same file recorded at same volume, then I had the same experience. In fact, in made me wonder if I was being a fussy git. Just that you expect the pre-installed alarm melodies to play really well.
I could send this one back, and the next could have more serious problems, so I am re-evaluating what to do now :/
Sometime they distort but it depends on the audio played.
Instead I've got a different problem, audio doesn't seem centered. I mean the "balance" seems to be slightly on right. Right speaker is louder, do you have such an issue?
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Sometime they distort but it depends on the audio played.
Instead I've got a different problem, audio doesn't seem centered. I mean the "balance" seems to be slightly on right. Right speaker is louder, do you have such an issue?
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Yes, it does depend on what is played. These speakers do not handle piano tones well at all, while other sounds seem OK. Interesting you talk about the right (top) being louder, as that's the one that seems to be distorting more for me, or perhaps it's just that it's louder! Samsung are going to pick it up from me and send me a new replacement anyway, which is good, because I'll be forever regretting not trying. I'd still be happy with it even if this was normal for the Tab S...just can't bare the idea of having a deficient device.
For anyone that's interested... I learned how to get the test page up where you can test all the hardware.
1. Open calculator
2. Type in (+30,012,012,732+
3. On the large keypad, type in *#0*#
You should then have a load of buttons to test all your hardware.
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Yet another "Improve your SGS2 sound quality" thread. Just try it once already!
Hey guys! I was very VERY disappointed with the audio quality on SGS2 coming from a Voodoo'd SGS1! Been fiddling a lot with different stuff (tried all the other threads on XDA), but could not get myself to like the sound.
Now I think I've created something *almost* perfect. And thought I'd share here. This method required the free Equalizer app from the Market and the paid Poweramp app (brilliant player, worth every penny, trust me). To *me*, this sounds *very* similar too SGS1 on Voodoo! Maybe not there in terms of loudness or clarity, but yeah, now I can listen to music on my phone without puking.
So here goes!
1. Install Equalizer, press the power button on top right, and enable *just* the Equalizer bit.
2. Press the custom button on the bottom right, and set it up according to this screenshot:
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3. Open Poweramp, go to the EQ tab, set up Tone, Equalizer, and Preamp according to the screenshots below:
Note: You may need to adjust the Poweramp EQ and Preamp a bit according to your taste and headphone. Just for reference, my earphones are Nuforce NE6.
Let me know if this helps!
Disclaimer: This is in no way associated with supercurio's Voodoo, nor is it endorsed by him!
Had to tweak the PowerAMP EQ a bit, but damn this tweak is awesome!
Must try for everyone!
I must say Kalpik I was not impressed with the SGSII for audio. Maybe I will try this out
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I must say Kalpik I was not impressed with the SGSII for audio. Maybe I will try this out
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Sure! Do let me know what you think!
A few explanations about it.
This is basically an EQ, between an V and a "Smiley Face Curve" (Wikipedia article)
As you show it there are high gains so the the response is very far from flat in the end.
I guess its both suits your preference and acts as a correction for the very particular headphones you use.
As a result the benefit you experience for your own usage cannot be reproduced on other.
Many consumer headphone exaggerate high and lows already, so increasing once again high and low frequencies will produce a very fatiguing sound, lacking musicality.
I think its important to seperate frequency corrections (like this combination of graphic equalizers) and sound quality improvements.
EQ can help get a more balanced sound from flawed headphones (can also do the exact opposite) but that's very different form what's done in Voodoo sound that actually reduces distortions levels, improves clarity by configuring the hardware with more accuracy, reducing hiss by using optimal amp levels etc.
Cool if it helps your usage, however it might "degrade" the end result as much as it helps, depending on the headphones used.
Unfortunately sharing this settings will be useful listeners using the exact same headphones as yours, so I would suggest you to specify which they are.
So, what would be the case with default sgsii headphones?
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Nice find. Working great for me!
Sounds better , thanks, i play around if i need to
It's a phone ... And the damn audio quality is great compared to Nexus One... We dont expect audiophiles to listen to music through headphones.
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So, what would be the case with default sgsii headphones?
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My girlfriend found them useful as a makeshift hair tie...
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Wonderful!! sounds amazing sound with amazing bass!!!
Like supercurio said this Is not improving sq it's just colouring the sound. This EQ may work for chart music but try listening to blues or classical the recessed mid will make the music unworthy of listening. The goal is to make sound as neutral (flat) as possible(how the artist intended) not colouring it. Please don't think SQ of sgs2 is utter garbage. It's just not as good as sgs.but for most of us its perfectly fine.
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And who cares if this doesn't 'improve SQ' like SuperCurio is saying? If Supercurio isn't keen on producing Voodoo Sound for SGS2, then sound colouring is the best we get right now...
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PS. Ant chance to link to the free EQ app? I can't find it on Market or AppBrain. Cheers.
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Colouring the sound or not see me care, best sound i've ever heard on phone mp3 music
Pulling down the pre-amp and turning up the bass and mid freq gave me a warm sound (does remind me at tube amp sounds!)
and i'm also a musician, I listen/play more harder genres, this program really rocks with my current headset
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A few explanations about it.
This is basically an EQ, between an V and a "Smiley Face Curve" (Wikipedia article)
As you show it there are high gains so the the response is very far from flat in the end.
I guess its both suits your preference and acts as a correction for the very particular headphones you use.
As a result the benefit you experience for your own usage cannot be reproduced on other.
Many consumer headphone exaggerate high and lows already, so increasing once again high and low frequencies will produce a very fatiguing sound, lacking musicality.
I think its important to seperate frequency corrections (like this combination of graphic equalizers) and sound quality improvements.
EQ can help get a more balanced sound from flawed headphones (can also do the exact opposite) but that's very different form what's done in Voodoo sound that actually reduces distortions levels, improves clarity by configuring the hardware with more accuracy, reducing hiss by using optimal amp levels etc.
Cool if it helps your usage, however it might "degrade" the end result as much as it helps, depending on the headphones used.
Unfortunately sharing this settings will be useful listeners using the exact same headphones as yours, so I would suggest you to specify which they are.
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Ah the man himself
You are absolutely correct about everything. Actually I was using this type of curve even with Voodoo, so yes, like I said in the first post (You may need to adjust the Poweramp EQ and Preamp a bit according to your taste and headphone.), EQ curves are very personal! Someone might not like the same curve even on the same set of earphones that I own (Nuforce NE6)!
Let me be clear to everyone, this is NOT a "Voodoo" solution. But for me, the sound signature is now very close to how I had Voodoo set up on SGS1. Of course its lacking the loudness and clarity, but at least I don't go in a corner and cry when I listen to music on my SGS2
Most had just settled with the SQ on their SGS2, this thread is just an attempt to get people playing with the EQ, and at least trying to get the sound they deserve from such an expensive handset! No harm done if it doesn't work
Hope everyone understands!
Also, let me remove the Voodoo reference from the thread title, so as to avoid any confusion!
jastonas said:
So, what would be the case with default sgsii headphones?
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Try with these settings, and then play around with Poweramp EQ if you don't like
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Like supercurio said this Is not improving sq it's just colouring the sound. This EQ may work for chart music but try listening to blues or classical the recessed mid will make the music unworthy of listening. The goal is to make sound as neutral (flat) as possible(how the artist intended) not colouring it. Please don't think SQ of sgs2 is utter garbage. It's just not as good as sgs.but for most of us its perfectly fine.
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True, if you're not disappointed with the SQ of SGS, this thread is not for you! I understand its a "desperate attempt", but what the hell, it works for me! Maybe it works for you too, maybe it doesn't! No harm done if it doesn't
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PS. Ant chance to link to the free EQ app? I can't find it on Market or AppBrain. Cheers.
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Here you go: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer
Also added the link to first post.
mkrmec said:
We dont expect audiophiles to listen to music through headphones.
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Oh rly? Obviously you never heard of head-fi.org
Nice Settings kalpik.I too find the sound quality of SGS2 lower than SGS. I still sometimes use my SGS to listen songs. ..... As Supercurio said its not the perfect solution bt its what we have right now. Something is better than nothing. I am not an expert just a layman.
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Nice Settings kalpik.I too find the sound quality of SGS2 lower than SGS. I still sometimes use my SGS to listen songs. ..... As Supercurio said its not the perfect solution bt its what we have right now. Something is better than nothing. I am not an expert just a layman.
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Same here buddy! Not an expert, just trying to share what I discovered Supercurio is the real pro
Hey guys,
up to this point I used the original S2 wired headset that came with the phone and was quite content with it. Now it seems the mic/pause-button device on the wire broke (neither the mic nor the button work anymore). Since I use BeyondPod on my phone a lot to listen to podcasts, the ability to play/pause a podcast with the push of a hardware button numerous times a day (such as when shopping or people briefly need to talk to me) is very important to me, also it was convenient to accept a phone call while I already had the earplugs in and just talk away and resume podcasting afterwards (even though I only managed to accept calls with the push of a button in about 20% of all cases, which I'd like to improve on as well).
I still got an older headset from my HTC Desire that has working buttons/mic, but I really got accustomated to the in-ears with both the richer sound and the noise-cancelling aspects of using them, so there really is no going back to traditional earphones for me.
Basically here's what I'm looking for:
-) in-ear-headset with mic and at least a push-button to play/pause podcasts in BeyondPod, volume control would be a nice extra but isn't necessary
-) ability to reliably(!) accept and end calls with the push of a button (if I need an additional app to accomplish that, that's fine)
-) as I mostly listen to podcasts, audio-quality isn't all that important, even though I'd also use them to listen to music (mainly rock, metal, industrial, so a good base bass would be appreciated) on a SanDisk Sansa Clip+ - so if the sound quality is actually good, I'd be happy
I was looking at the Klipsch S4A headset, but they mention that there are compatibility issues with the S2 - I don't need fancy triple-click combos to skip to the next track, etc. I only need working and reliable play/pause and accept/hang-up functionality, would the S4A be able to accomplish that with a Galaxy S2?
I'd like to stay below 70 euros/90 dollars if at all possible. Any recommendations from people using a headset in a similar way with an S2 would be greatly appreciated!
Well I don't own them myself, but I've searched the internet a bit and have two potential ones for you:
AKG K 328
AKG K 350
Both are in your price range and AKG is a very good choice. Especially when it comes to audio-quality. I know you said it's not important for you, but I can assure you that you won't regret it.
Anyway there is a small problem. They were made for Apple devices.
Solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352389
It seems that it works, it's just that I personally cannot confirm it. If you want to be sure, just ask the person that made the thread.
In a nutshell:
They have a high build quality.
They are comfortable.
They have (apparently) working controls.
They look awesome (especially the red K328)
There is one downside however...their sound quality will make never want to touch the Samsung earphones anymore...believe me.
If you should buy them, please tell me if they really work, add I consider to buy one of those once my old ones break.
i personally use the backbeat 906. the sound quality for usic etc is awesome and it has music controls on the device.
made by plantronics but also branded as altec lansing:
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/backbeat-903&skuId=sku5390012
I have some htc RC E190 ear phones, they only set me back £10 from ebay and I love the sound on them, they also have flat cable that doesn't get tangled. They have a 3 button in line remote which allow answer and end calls and with poweramp the remote allows volume up and down, middle button does the following:
single press for start / stop, double press for skip track forward, triple press for back a track.
I use mine for mainly industrial / ebm /metal etc, and was extremely amazed at how good they sound for the price.
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If you are not on a budget, check out the REAL monster headphones. Some of em comes with a mic and volume rocker which usually works with phone calls
Edit: I meant a button for the phone calls not the rocker haha
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bigboxrate said:
What about Beats Audio?
I use this, just perfect for music
http://www.minitake.com/product/35mm-in-ear-hifi-headphone-817?px=qtbo
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Google a bit and find out why Monster Beats have a VERY BAD reputation. Amongst audiophiles, that is.
If you care for good quality, you'd never recommend them, period.
Most people recommend klipsh s4a.
Just my two cents.
tyhanks vry much:good:
beats is good.
I'm using ibeats, fit properly, like the sound and forward&play function button, can't wait to using it with Sonny Ericsson MW 600 bluetooth
Update: I decided on the HTC RC E190, which were fine enough for my needs, if a bit on the silent side. A few days ago, the cable probably broke around the connector, resulting in the sound cutting out in one of the buds.
Not quite decided on whether to get another set (I like the flat cable design, which really proved to be tangle-free in around 95% of everyday use and the in-ears fit nicely, only real downside was that they're a bit on the quiet side) or opt for a different pair.
AW: Looking for good In-Ear-Headset
Hi,
My suggestion is the Bose MIE2 headset. Fits great, very comfortable and doesn't fall out of the ears due to those funny-looking silicone holders. And it sounds very good, I use it myself together with the Neutron Media Player.
Cheers
Zap
I have to admit that over time I've used several mid/low end bluetooth speakers and I ended up giving all of them away as presents to my friends. They were all fantastic accessories for my mobile phone but they were lacking ... something.
We all know there is no such thing as a perfect gadget or device and, if you add the human subjectivity, you end up with an endless quest for a "great device".
All in all, now I'm settled (at least for a while) ...
Basically this is a JAMBOX replica which really delivers, at a fraction of the price of the original.
Here are some photos with the package and its content:
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After opening the box I found the actual device and the cables supplied with it.
The speaker itself is plain black and feels soft when touched. The coating, even if it's very nice, it's making the surfaces prone to fingerprints so you may feel "forced" to clean it often .
The controls are somewhat classic ... volume up/down, answer/hang up, prev/next and play/pause functions, all on 3 buttons. The functions are available by short or long pressing the respective market button.
The main power switch as well as the power supply/charge and audio in/out connectors are located on the back of the device, clearly marked and easily accessible.
Now, after all the photos let's talk a little bit about the functionality of the device:
Pairing:
If you have a regular phone (not NFC enabled) then, after switching on the speaker, you can easily find it when searching for bluetooth devices and you can add it. That's all.
If you phone.tablet is NFC enables though, the pairing is as easy as touching it on the NFC sensitive area of the speaker and you're good to go.
Even if the NFC area is not marked on the speaker, it is there, as marked in the picture below:
The blue LED visible in the above picture will flask quickly while the device is in "pairing" state and slowly when in normal functioning mode.
I have to say here (for the picky ones) that the LED is bright so it may be somehow annoying if you look at it in low light (or at night).
After the pairing you can start using it as an external speaker and also as a speakerphone, because it has a microphone and an answer/hang up button.
Voice call quality:
When used for voice calls the voice of your call partner will sound very clear and nice (and I mean VERY CLEAR AND NICE ) but, at least in my case, the other party was hearing me a little too over-processed (probably because of the noise canceling DSP inside) but there were no complaints about not understanding me (the voice was a little metallic/robotic when I was not speaking loud enough to make a good difference from the ambient noise).
Music quality:
This is something highly subjective
If I'm comparing the speaker to my home sound system then ... there is no comparison that can be made. As an old commercial for muscle cars was stating: "there is no replacement for displacement" ... the speakers are small so you can not expect that bass fulfilling sound. Nevertheless, the audio quality is GREAT. If you have the intention to use this little BT speaker when you;re in vacation or when camping then you will have nothing to complain about. The bass is not strong but is there, definitely. The median frequencies are extremely clear, w/o being too saturated, while the highs are just in the right quantity.
I personally listen to Leonard Cohen type of music (involving a lot of vocal play) and the voices are nice, warm and natural, w/o popping out from the speaker.
If you look at a spectral analysis of the output (using any audio analyzer out there, like this one for example), you can see the spectrum being nicely populated (with the obvious lack of bass).
All in all, the music is great and the max volume is still usable w/o too many distortions.
Connectivity:
This a big plus for this little buddy ...
As you can see from the picture with the connectors, you have access to line-in as well as to line-out connectors.
What does this mean?
Line-in - you can use the speaker as a conventional speaker, with the included cable, and you can play music from any player, even if it's not bluetooth capable. Just plug it in and go .... Of course, you will not be able to use any of the call capabilities while in line-in mode.
Line-out - you can use the speaker as a bluetooth interface between your phone/tablet and some high-quality speakers. I plugged it to my home stereo system and the result was extremely nice, with great sound (the EDR enabled Bluetooth standard did its job)
The USB connector is being used for charging the unit using any USB port. I personally use one of the many usb adapters I have lying around the house.
Battery life:
This is subject that I can not clearly review simply because I did not managed to drain the battery yet .
After receiving the unit (2 weeks ago) I plugged it into a power adapter and I left it there until the charging status LED (a tiny RED LED located below the BLUE one) turned off. After that I've used the unit about 1-2 hours every other day and it's not dead yet. I still have to use it in order to see the battery life. Until now though I only can say it has a great autonomy on battery .
Final words:
This is not the first speaker with this form factor and size I've come across but surely is one great gadget for the price.
If you look at the audio quality for this price range then it's a safe buy - one of the safest I come across.
I can only recommend it to anyone who wants a great bluetooth speaker for only ~35 USD.
Here is the link I used (from amazon): http://www.amazon.com/HAVIT®-HV-SK4...=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1401162562&sr=1-4
I hope you find this review useful. I don't do reviews usually but this was special and I thought it deserved one.
Even though I really like My Huawei Honor 2 (U9508), I am considering upgrading to a high-end phone, probably one of the following:
Find 7
Find 7a
One Plus
Sony Xperia Z2 phone
Of course if I am going to spend this much money, I do not want to loose any features the Huawei has.
One of those is the stereo speakers. I believe that the Oppo Find 7 has basically the same arrangement.
Some of the advertising says that it does not, but I believe these are from sites pushing the One Plus.
Can someone please authoritatively answer the following: (Pictures would be nice, too)
Does the Find 7 have internal stereo speakers?
Does the Find 7a?
I am not expecting the internal speakers in a phone to be like the speakers in a nightclub, but -in context- do they have some power?
(The Huawei is actually pretty good - noticeably louder than "regular phones", and there is actually some noticeable stereo effect.) Could the same be said of the Find 7/7a?
How about with a 3rd party firmware (such as a Cyanogen build) that does not have Maxxx audio (or whatever it is), will I still have true (albeit perhaps not enhanced) stereo from the internal speakers?
I have an antique mini/micro car that has no radio, and sometimes my phone is the only sound system when my daughter says "I Want Music !!".
Other information (about the sound quality of the phone, not the daughter's attitude) is welcome.
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Linuxslate said:
Even though I really like My Huawei Honor 2 (U9508), I am considering upgrading to a high-end phone, probably one of the following:
Find 7
Find 7a
One Plus
Sony Xperia Z2 phone
Of course if I am going to spend this much money, I do not want to loose any features the Huawei has.
One of those is the stereo speakers. I believe that the Oppo Find 7 has basically the same arrangement.
Some of the advertising says that it does not, but I believe these are from sites pushing the One Plus.
Can someone please authoritatively answer the following: (Pictures would be nice, too)
Does the Find 7 have internal stereo speakers?
Does the Find 7a?
I am not expecting the internal speakers in a phone to be like the speakers in a nightclub, but -in context- do they have some power?
(The Huawei is actually pretty good - noticeably louder than "regular phones", and there is actually some noticeable stereo effect.) Could the same be said of the Find 7/7a?
How about with a 3rd party firmware (such as a Cyanogen build) that does not have Maxxx audio (or whatever it is), will I still have true (albeit perhaps not enhanced) stereo from the internal speakers?
I have an antique mini/micro car that has no radio, and sometimes my phone is the only sound system when my daughter says "I Want Music !!".
Other information (about the sound quality of the phone, not the daughter's attitude) is welcome.
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The speakers perform quite admirably. I find the speakers are very similar to the performance of the HTC One. In terms of Maxx Audio, It seems to matter most when using headphones. That being said, they should perform the same way with the Cyanogenmod built in DSP. I'll know for sure later. In terms of stereo performance, there may or may not be 2 speakers. I am unwilling to take a screwdriver to confirm. However, at the very least there are 2 speaker ports in which audio comes out. I've attached the pic. I used a stereo test app and covered a single port but could hear no discernible difference. At any rate, if there are 2 speakers you wouldn't discern stereo because the speakers are so close together.
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The speakers on the phone are pretty good. I optimized the sound with ViPER4Android on Paranoid Android. There's a huge difference you can notice when using ViPER. The only thing that isn't that good, is the positioning of the speakers. Most of the time your hands will probably cover them. HTC One for example does this better.
But all in all, watching videos is quite enjoyable with the phones speakers.
sebZ128 said:
The speakers on the phone are pretty good. I optimized the sound with ViPER4Android on Paranoid Android. There's a huge difference you can notice when using ViPER. The only thing that isn't that good, is the positioning of the speakers. Most of the time your hands will probably cover them. HTC One for example does this better.
But all in all, watching videos is quite enjoyable with the phones speakers.
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I had been a user of Huawei Honor 2 for 2 years. When I switched to Find 7a I had to admit that Oppo sounds better (Maybe it's just the MaxxAudio thing..). In my opinion you will be very pleased if you decide to upgrade.
The only thing I am missing from Honor2 is the real-time facewarping feature in the camera, but it's not a big issue...
Thanks to all that replied.
There was also a thorough review on engadget.com that discussed the speakers quite a bit.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/24/oppo-find-7-review/
I also discovered that the Huawei P7 does have NFC, so the only one of my "requirements" that the P7 does not meet is the stereo speakers.
So as of right now, if I can find a P7 at a fair price (It should be about 1/2 what a Find 7 costs), I'll probably just settle for that.
If I'm stuck in the Find 7 price range, and I can get the US version with the carbon ("Space black", or whatever they call it) back, I'll probably go for that.
I'm not really considering a One Plus right now due to the "plastic-ness", and the irritating "invite" system, but it is not totally out of the question either.
Linuxslate said:
Thanks to all that replied.
There was also a thorough review on engadget.com that discussed the speakers quite a bit.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/24/oppo-find-7-review/
I also discovered that the Huawei P7 does have NFC, so the only one of my "requirements" that the P7 does not meet is the stereo speakers.
So as of right now, if I can find a P7 at a fair price (It should be about 1/2 what a Find 7 costs), I'll probably just settle for that.
If I'm stuck in the Find 7 price range, and I can get the US version with the carbon ("Space black", or whatever they call it) back, I'll probably go for that.
I'm not really considering a One Plus right now due to the "plastic-ness", and the irritating "invite" system, but it is not totally out of the question either.
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I have both Find 7a and OnePlus and prefer OnePlus. It's not plasticky, it feels premium. You can't go wrong with either one.
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Hi!
What do you think about em? Can we use them? Do they sound better if u use the filter I've provided to use in viper 4 android DDC in next post?
Anything else you wanna share?
So, a whole bunch of us got these puppies when we bought the phone. They look ok and got these buttons that work with LG phones, so I wanted to give them a spin.
The headache and puzzlement that ensued would last for weeks...
They don't sound really bad, but, the second I wanna crank up a tune, they scream my ears off, so I say to myself, bring out that trusty viper4android and get medieval on its ass!
Well, do I root the company phone? Not without giving it some thought. Especially since rooting was very new on this puppy. Well, bring on those normal equalIzers while thinking about it, eh? No dice. Just can't get em sounding right.
So, I root! And get stuck in the normal frenzy of modding and playing around. Eventually I have v4a installed and start cranking. Frustration sets in...
So what do others say about them? Very little, as it seems. The hype from lg says they are much better than qb2, they now use 4 membranes (!?), and the sound is described as otherworldly or its own universe, or what ever.... A few people just say it came with the phone and is by definition crap. Mostly its pretty quiet though....
The realisation slowly dawns on me, I'm gonna have to go the route of getting official measurements on these things and make a correction filter (DDC) for them. I did search for anyone that had done this and posted it. I'm lazy, and I know Jack sh*t about these things.
Finding what I needed proved challenging and time-consuming, I first stumbled on lg's own data and instantly noticed the 10db elevation on vocals. That is a doubling of the reference sound right? I think to myself, if I fix that, it'll make a world of difference.
Yeah... Well, now treble its a problem. I finally get a "good" measurement from golden ears. Turns out vocals was not that elevated. In fact, nothing seems particularly elevated, compared to lg charts.... I try to make a rough filter from these measurements only to realise I'm almost back where I started. Vocals screaming my ears off. Well at least I'm not killing my hearing with elevated treble...
I'm starting to suspect I don't understand how to use the golden ear measurements...
So I decide to go by ear, using the charts as a general idea. Hey did I say I was lazy? I'm not using any sweeps or comparing further apart... I'm just listening to music on my computer. I do of course understand it won't be the same on my phone. It's slightly coloring the sound too... After a few revisions I reach something that feels pretty good.
Bass is untouched since I like it, the balance with vocals and highs are decent but some parts of highs are elevated still. Not hurting my ears in the least but sound sometimes feels airy...
During this work I sometimes had a ridiculously wide soundstage at the expense of over all balance. Do I know what I'm saying here? Maybe, concept is new to me as was most of the things I've delved into these last weeks. I just know I really liked it but had to give it up to be able to play louder.... Ahem!
Its been a nice learning opportunity. I still don't know if these inears can be made to sound divine AND loud enough for my taste. If I had the right knowledge and experience. If I stuck to it or got help from a guru. Well, well... They are decent now.
I'm really wondering if someone, keeping quiet, have tales to share on this subject.
Or decent progress. I'll of course post the filter for your amusement shortly.
But, right now it's time for dinner.
Tata!
/Manko33
SR_44100:1.007210,-1.891321,0.903471,1.891321,-0.910681,0.936114,-1.527103,0.687318,1.527103,-0.623432,0.767556,-0.991108,0.460067,0.991108,-0.227623,1.163870,-0.998222,0.487798,0.998222,-0.651668,0.928791,-0.635511,0.836370,0.635511,-0.765161,1.286617,-0.044294,0.095357,0.044294,-0.381974,0.852669,0.970999,0.614793,-0.970999,-0.467463,1.107352,1.651109,0.616777,-1.651109,-0.724129
SR_48000:1.006648,-1.901235,0.910993,1.901235,-0.917641,0.940407,-1.566029,0.708330,1.566029,-0.648737,0.779713,-1.060731,0.488307,1.060731,-0.268020,1.152592,-1.109767,0.523051,1.109767,-0.675643,0.933953,-0.800769,0.848231,0.800769,-0.782184,1.268654,-0.222248,0.152054,0.222248,-0.420708,0.862268,0.768043,0.639890,-0.768043,-0.502158,1.095031,1.520561,0.660761,-1.520561,-0.755792
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Paste this into a file you call LgQB3.vdc
Put it in /sdcard/ViPER4Android/DDC/
Restart viper and choose it as DDC.
IT will be last in list.
/ Manko
Great Job!
Inviato dal mio LG-H815 utilizzando Tapatalk
Thx, mate! :highfive:
Here's n updated filter correcting according to golden ears, still not touching bass.
Code:
SR_44100:0.983688,-1.659100,0.781615,1.659100,-0.765303,0.925763,-1.265306,0.641492,1.265306,-0.567255,1.070646,-1.016848,0.612158,1.016848,-0.682803,0.954010,-0.711969,0.786413,0.711969,-0.740423,0.954903,-0.501809,0.766650,0.501809,-0.721553,1.029385,-0.280841,0.738058,0.280841,-0.767443,1.001658,-1.886329,0.903980,1.886329,-0.905638
SR_48000:0.984871,-1.691668,0.797451,1.691668,-0.782322,0.930601,-1.334638,0.664854,1.334638,-0.595455,1.065720,-1.128991,0.639201,1.128991,-0.704921,0.957304,-0.866114,0.801712,0.866114,-0.759016,0.958104,-0.677097,0.783211,0.677097,-0.741315,1.027245,-0.483229,0.757135,0.483229,-0.784379,1.001529,-1.896608,0.911444,1.896608,-0.912973
Paste this into a file you call LgQB3.vdc
Put it in /sdcard/ViPER4Android/DDC/
Restart viper and choose it as DDC.
IT will be last in list.
/Manko33
Experimental filter, additionally compensating treble, still using golden ears measurement.
Code:
SR_44100:0.983688,-1.659100,0.781615,1.659100,-0.765303,0.925763,-1.265306,0.641492,1.265306,-0.567255,1.070646,-1.016848,0.612158,1.016848,-0.682803,0.954010,-0.711969,0.786413,0.711969,-0.740423,0.954903,-0.501809,0.766650,0.501809,-0.721553,1.097865,0.069823,0.684652,-0.069823,-0.782517,1.001658,-1.886329,0.903980,1.886329,-0.905638,0.973384,0.732570,0.460039,-0.732570,-0.433422
SR_48000:0.984871,-1.691668,0.797451,1.691668,-0.782322,0.930601,-1.334638,0.664854,1.334638,-0.595455,1.065720,-1.128991,0.639201,1.128991,-0.704921,0.957304,-0.866114,0.801712,0.866114,-0.759016,0.958104,-0.677097,0.783211,0.677097,-0.741315,1.090658,-0.164569,0.707875,0.164569,-0.798534,1.001529,-1.896608,0.911444,1.896608,-0.912973,0.975126,0.525184,0.495379,-0.525184,-0.470505
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Paste this into a file you call LgQB3.vdc
Put it in /sdcard/ViPER4Android/DDC/
Restart viper and choose it as DDC.
IT will be last in list.
My understanding of treble in inears is that it should naturally trail off and the tools I use are very imprecise , as is posted graphs, in high frequencies. Making it interesting to work on...
/Manko33
I'm really satisfied with QB3s.
I use Poweramp with that set:
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Limited 7dB equalizer and limitation off.
I have modded the mixer_paths to a sober value for the headphones too.
If someone wanna test, PM me.
Sent from my LG G4!
Yeap, poweramp is the best for me. I do have almost the same setting as you mate. I have the Sony MDR-XB450AP headphones and the QB3 but they are setup different in poweramp. It seems the QB3 sound is a little bit more focused on the treble I mean the Bass is great and along with the proper setting in PAmp they bang but it seems to me that at certain point the bass clarity is affected with a little chirp.. Barely noticeable but if you are a real musicholic you'll hear it.. When it returns the beat it makes this noise like when you are playing basketball in a cement court... Like ffchiirp ffchiirp..
Pay attention to it.. I guess it is not the headphones you use but the sound quality of the g4.. However even with this.. It sounds very good. I can live with it.
Sent from my LG-H815
Lonzo_SGS2_506 said:
Yeap, poweramp is the best for me. I do have almost the same setting as you mate. I have the Sony MDR-XB450AP headphones and the QB3 but they are setup different in poweramp. It seems the QB3 sound is a little bit more focused on the treble I mean the Bass is great and along with the proper setting in PAmp they bang but it seems to me that at certain point the bass clarity is affected with a little chirp.. Barely noticeable but if you are a real musicholic you'll hear it.. When it returns the beat it makes this noise like when you are playing basketball in a cement court... Like ffchiirp ffchiirp..
Pay attention to it.. I guess it is not the headphones you use but the sound quality of the g4.. However even with this.. It sounds very good. I can live with it.
Sent from my LG-H815
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Noticed this before the changes i did in mixer_path.xml! I thought it was paranoia LOL!
But, yes! It sounds like you described... But now i think there's no more "ffchiirp ffchiirp".
I tested using some HQ FLACs. (Rage Against The Machine, Brazilian popular music ~bossa nova, samba~, Foo Fighters, some Hip Hop music, Electronics music and a lot of other things)
I hear now a lot of difference but nothing that change my mind.
I have a "small" collection of headphones but with G4 i only use the high sensitivity ones.
It sounds really good with AKG's K321, K420, K450(my profile pic) and K414p.
Koss the Plug (a 7 years old, modded a lot), Shure SE215, Sony MH1 and Audio Technica CK7 doesn't sound good as my old Xperia Z3, for example.
The "lack" of sub bass is the problem and it's related to LG's sound engine.
External mods will just make-up the sound. (as Poweramp already do)
Yeap
Sent from my LG-H815