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Hi.. Just for all know what is the most used rom's and what this rom have about good and bad, fast and slow...
Lets started people....
Why do you prefer your rom?
dehzincwb said:
Hi.. Just for all know what is the most used rom's and what this rom have about good and bad, fast and slow...
Lets started people....
Why do you prefer your rom?
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you don't like reading, right?
I would like to hear this too, but the moderators have decided that these kind of discussions are forbidden here on XDAdev. They believe that because it's subjective it's somehow pointless to discuss. I don't agree, I believe that you can see what people share your preferences and base your ROM selection upon their experiences.
I'm presently running Swtos 1.0 full and I do like it. I've experienced no bugs, my only gripe is that the help files are removed (yes, I sometimes want them) and that I'd like more speed and responsiveness - but then again, are we ever satisfied in that department? Looking to Swiftblades 7.0 16pp and Swtos 1.4 full for upgrade.
Good luck in keeping the thread open.
swiftblade
(explaination below - suits my needs / min apps and is one, speedwise is one of the quicker ones in tf3d)
but as above... good luck keeping it from being closed... everyone has different needs... and depending on apps they install (which can affect the overall speed of each rom) you'll have no concensus and 2183491749183471 different responses of why its the best
I like it chocolatflavoured.
Rumours
I was told that Zebedeus's release 1.56.8 was able to make cappucino's !!
But nonfagotme's upcoming release 0,0001 is more stable in terms and conditions I red on stupidnonsens's thread
Enough laughs - Who's gonna request this to be locked guys?
hummmm
ill give it 30 seconds
if you look down you can see what i am using
I think a thread like this is great. Egos shouldn't be aloud to stand in the way of opinion. It's OBVIOUS that speed etc is subjective, but just like when you buy a car magazine, it's still nice to hear other people's opinions - it gives you a base from which to build your own experience.
I am using Swift's v7.0 16mb full ROM and it's great - very stable and very fast, what more could anyone want from a ROM? I tend to steer clear from the ROMs/chefs surrounded in hype and shameless self-promotion as I believe a good ROM speaks for itself.
I think there are all about the same for 99%.
I did like the french ringtone aztor put in it
disagree- a question like this is subjective and irationale.
There is no such thing as "best" - no values- no perception - no speed (as this is ONLY in the eye of the beholder)
The ONLY reason people post this Question (as I did when I started 700 posts ago with my XDA) is not to have to read hundreds of pages of pro's and con's for each ROM.
My 2 cents
simcarloc said:
I think a thread like this is great. Egos shouldn't be aloud to stand in the way of opinion. It's OBVIOUS that speed etc is subjective, but just like when you buy a car magazine, it's still nice to hear other people's opinions - it gives you a base from which to build your own experience.
I am using Swift's v7.0 16mb full ROM and it's great - very stable and very fast, what more could anyone want from a ROM? I tend to steer clear from the ROMs/chefs surrounded in hype and shameless self-promotion as I believe a good ROM speaks for itself.
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dude you got my absolute respect for ur second paragraph
Hi, i´m using the Spanish version of Elite Project 3.3, for the language.
Anyway, maybe this thread can be changed by a "Survey Type", this way you can save hundred of pages and in 1 sec have a "impression" on this subjetive topic....What do you think?
here here!
jeromenism said:
dude you got my absolute respect for ur second paragraph
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what can you say about a chef who does this for all the hard work for nothing
and won't take donations for himself...a true gent
ceevee369 said:
disagree- a question like this is subjective and irationale.
There is no such thing as "best" - no values- no perception - no speed (as this is ONLY in the eye of the beholder)
The ONLY reason people post this Question (as I did when I started 700 posts ago with my XDA) is not to have to read hundreds of pages of pro's and con's for each ROM.
My 2 cents
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I don't think the original poster was asking about 'best', at least that's the way I understood his post. We all read through endless posts about various ROMs and it's inevitable that we wonder - 'I would love to know how x ROM fares against Y rom'. What's so bad about allowing people to post their subjective experiences so that a common denominator through comparison is formed, allowing people to assess which ROM may be best suited to them? If people have flashed and tested many ROMs, why can't we benefit from their experiences? We aren't children, we can discern for ourselves which post to believe/disregard!
It's like Orwell's 1984 around here sometimes
ceevee369 said:
disagree- a question like this is subjective and irationale.
There is no such thing as "best" - no values- no perception - no speed (as this is ONLY in the eye of the beholder)
The ONLY reason people post this Question (as I did when I started 700 posts ago with my XDA) is not to have to read hundreds of pages of pro's and con's for each ROM.
My 2 cents
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Subjective - yes, but so is everything we percieve. Subjective doesn't imply irrational. What I think IS irrational is actually having to read through hundreds of pages of ROM threads to find info you need.
Forums like these are also about collecting and organizing information. I argue it would be RATIONAL to collect experiences in a single thread, instead of having bits and pieces scattered all over the forum.
I HAVE read through pretty much all the ROM threads, and I enjoy making up my own mind from the information there.
Still, I lack the direct comparisons most people here are so afraid to make. Most people only say sth like: "the rom is very fast". Compared to what? Compared to another cooked ROM or to a stock ROM?
My 2 cents.
I want to get pushed to use it.
The more ego, the better. I need a rom from someone that 'dares' and keeps creating roms everyone knows, and wants everyone to try it. I tend to pay for quality too. I don't believe in making something 'for free', its good for the creator only then. With, all respect offcourse, exeptions are always present.
losdrivare said:
Subjective - yes, but so is everything we percieve. Subjective doesn't imply irrational. What I think IS irrational is actually having to read through hundreds of pages of ROM threads to find info you need.
My 2 cents.
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Well, seems like this tread is going to be 20 roms x hundreds of pages is 20.000 pages of opinion to read when that comes true?
they are basically all the same in terms of speed, it all depends what functionality you want from it.
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Well, seems like this tread is going to be 20 roms x hundreds of pages is 20.000 pages of opinion to read when that comes true?
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Well, if you take the average ROM thread and remove all individual post only stating:
"How do I flash?"
"My flash stop at 0%"
"What is hard-SPL?"
"Opera crashes"
"Activesync is always active"
and also remove all requests for this or that app, language etc, with the chefs and everyone elses anwers to this...
There wouldn't be much left now, would it?
liamhere said:
what can you say about a chef who does this for all the hard work for nothing
and won't take donations for himself...a true gent
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we call the chef - SWIFTBLADE!
There seem to be quite an assortment of ROMs to choose from for my Desire Z.
I have had my phone for about 5 months, and am still running stock (SHAME!)
Which ROM would you recommend I load?
Also, is there a nice free backup utility you'd recommend I use to backup all my files and contacts?
Thanks for all suggestions,
Alec Taylor
AlecTaylor said:
There seem to be quite an assortment of ROMs to choose from for my Desire Z.
I have had my phone for about 5 months, and am still running stock (SHAME!)
Which ROM would you recommend I load?
Also, is there a nice free backup utility you'd recommend I use to backup all my files and contacts?
Thanks for all suggestions,
Alec Taylor
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Titanium Back-up.
And what do you use your phone for most of the time, or just try the various roms and see which one fits you.
This question gets asked once or twice a week. Just use the search function, and you will find many threads on this same subject.
There is no "best" ROM. Its like asking "What is the best car?". It depends on what you expect to use it for, features, personal tastes, looks, etc. And just because there is a popular choice, or somebody may give your their opinion of what they like best, doesn't mean that you will agree.
Saying one ROM is best or better compared to others, is belittling to the developers that work so hard to cook custom ROMs and post them here for us. They each have their own benefits in their own ways. So do yourself a favor, search and browse, read up on the features of the ROMs, then try a few out and make your own decision based on what works best for YOU.
As redpoint already stated, there is no such thing as a single, best rom.
However the thread My opinion in ROMs is a good place to start reading up on all the different roms currently in circulation. The op hasn't been updated since March 5th, but it still provides a nice overview over the differences and features of the roms.
thomas_wlc said:
However the thread My opinion in ROMs is a good place to start reading up on all the different roms currently in circulation. The op hasn't been updated since March 5th, but it still provides a nice overview over the differences and features of the roms.
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Keeping in mind, that particular thread is just one person's opinion. And one I find far from unbiased. He admits for a couple ROMs that he only spend 10 to 30 minutes with them. Which is not even enough to let the ROM "settle in" and show it true performance, much less giving it a real chance.
A decent starting point as any, I suppose. Since he reviews a large number of the ROMs available. But definitely read other threads and get other opinions also.
Hi guys,
Just wondering if there's a general consensus on the most stable AOSP rom? Preferably one that doesn't have anything (major) broken - e.g I can live without voice search, I must have a fully working camera, etc. Also built to be stable as a rock. Are the AOSP roms vulnerable to the SDS?
Or are they not quite there yet?
For those of you not on AOSP, what stock-based roms do you like? I don't really understand the difference between stock and things like ARHD for example? How stable is it compared to stock, and what about battery life? My 4.1.1 battery was incredible but 4.1.2 isn't so good.
Cheers!
Hi guys,
Just wondering if there's a general consensus on the most stable "What's the best ROM" thread? Preferably one that doesn't have anything (major) broken - e.g I can live without newbies opinions, I must have a fully detailed answers, etc. Also built to be the most stable as a rock thread, one that even the mods won't delete for being the 500th repeat thread. Are the AOSP roms threads vulnerable to the SDS (Sudden Deletion Syndrome)?
Or are the threads not quite there yet? Do we need another one?
For those of you not on XDA regularly, what stock-based roms threads do you like? I don't really understand the difference between searching and posting yet another thread for example? How silly is it compared to other threads, and what about sarcasm life, how quickly will my threads be mocked? My first thread was incredible but this "What's the best ROM" isn't so good.
Cheers!
Android Revolution HD (14.0 for the Galaxy Note 2) is probably the closest you're going to come to what you want. It's based on the stock ROM, but lordy! is it fast. And rock solid. Has a built-in installer that allows you to remove (or not) the Samsung cruft. Been using it since version 9, and I am quite happy with it. Check the thread in the developer forum.
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Hi guys,
Just wondering if there's a general consensus on the most stable "What's the best ROM" thread? Preferably one that doesn't have anything (major) broken - e.g I can live without newbies opinions, I must have a fully detailed answers, etc. Also built to be the most stable as a rock thread, one that even the mods won't delete for being the 500th repeat thread. Are the AOSP roms threads vulnerable to the SDS (Sudden Deletion Syndrome)?
Or are the threads not quite there yet? Do we need another one?
For those of you not on XDA regularly, what stock-based roms threads do you like? I don't really understand the difference between searching and posting yet another thread for example? How silly is it compared to other threads, and what about sarcasm life, how quickly will my threads be mocked? My first thread was incredible but this "What's the best ROM" isn't so good.
Cheers!
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Hilarious! No seriously, thanks for taking the time to satirise the thread without taking note of some of the questions I'd asked.
I've searched long and hard about SDS and not getting anything at all concrete about the implications of using AOSP. We don't all have the £500 to throw around and just risk bricking our device because somebody is to pretentious to actually help out someone that has taken the time to look but still needs some guidance.
iCurmudgeon said:
Android Revolution HD (14.0 for the Galaxy Note 2) is probably the closest you're going to come to what you want. It's based on the stock ROM, but lordy! is it fast. And rock solid. Has a built-in installer that allows you to remove (or not) the Samsung cruft. Been using it since version 9, and I am quite happy with it. Check the thread in the developer forum.
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Hi mate, thanks for the response. ARHD was great on my desire HD when I used it almost 2 years ago on that, and it looks to be the best stock rom for my needs - I appreciate the first hand review though! Still trying to get my head around aosp roms, many of which without buglists and uncertainties regarding SDS :/
Tamen said:
Hilarious! No seriously, thanks for taking the time to satirise the thread without taking note of some of the questions I'd asked.
I've searched long and hard about SDS and not getting anything at all concrete about the implications of using AOSP. We don't all have the £500 to throw around and just risk bricking our device because somebody is to pretentious to actually help out someone that has taken the time to look but still needs some guidance.
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SDS Thread
What - is - the - best - ROM
The sad truth of SDS is that no one really knows (sure, there's a LOT of speculation) anything about it. I know 3 people with S3's who have had their phone die after they upgraded to the latest Sammy Official "patched for SDS" ROM. It's sadly a gamble we all take.
Anyway, if you're really done some research then I apologise. You didn't mention that at all in your original post, it looked like another "I'm too lazy to research this, bring it to me on a platter" thread.
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SDS Thread
What - is - the - best - ROM
The sad truth of SDS is that no one really knows (sure, there's a LOT of speculation) anything about it. I know 3 people with S3's who have had their phone die after they upgraded to the latest Sammy Official "patched for SDS" ROM. It's sadly a gamble we all take.
Anyway, if you're really done some research then I apologise. You didn't mention that at all in your original post, it looked like another "I'm too lazy to research this, bring it to me on a platter" thread.
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Whilst the title is generic the inside of the thread was a bit more particular - with the SDS focus - and so given that nothing was out there I'm not really sure of the point of putting "honestly I've searched please don't kill me" because this is my 3rd device I've played with and used xda for and I know how petty a lot of forum members can be, it simply wouldn't make a difference.
The SDS thread is naturally where I started but has extremely limited info for aosp rom. The what is the best rom threads you posted are largely redundant given the lack of information or type of experience they're looking for is provided. Most are a waste of everyone's time and given how quickly development rakes place even if they were relevant they could still quickly be outdated.
Your tone in your first reply suggested that the answers were blindingly obvious and even a moron like me could find them with the most primitive of searches. Instead you've just admitted that no one really knows and it therefore was a valid question - a bit more thought before posting could go a long way.
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Whilst the title is generic the inside of the thread was a bit more particular - with the SDS focus - and so given that nothing was out there I'm not really sure of the point of putting "honestly I've searched please don't kill me" because this is my 3rd device I've played with and used xda for and I know how petty a lot of forum members can be, it simply wouldn't make a difference.
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The point of telling people you've done some research is so that they don't assume you're lazy. Sadly, most people ARE lazy. SDS focus? You mention it once, in passing.
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The SDS thread is naturally where I started but has extremely limited info for aosp rom. The what is the best rom threads you posted are largely redundant given the lack of information or type of experience they're looking for is provided. Most are a waste of everyone's time and given how quickly development rakes place even if they were relevant they could still quickly be outdated.
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And you were hoping to create the "What is the best ROM" thread that wasn't a waste of everyone's time?
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Your tone in your first reply suggested that the answers were blindingly obvious and even a moron like me could find them with the most primitive of searches.
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Right, for your generic "Which is the best ROM" question. There's heaps of them out there already and none of them answer it because it's such a subjective question.
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Instead you've just admitted that no one really knows and it therefore was a valid question - a bit more thought before posting could go a long way.
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I like how you're trying to pretend your whole first post was all about SDS. Sure, it totally was. My bad.
Liquid Smooth ROM, no doubt! It's perfect! I haven't had any crashes and glitches yet!
I would prefer the Slim Bean JB ROM but, the camera doesn't work (build 5). Once the camera issue is fixed, I am going to revert back to Slim Bean JB
Hi all, I'm the OP for the Grand ROM Survey (TW and AOSP) for the N7100.
57 ROMs and 160 versions selectable.
I'm requesting your participation so that there is enough data to objectively answer the question "popular" and "best" as there is a scoring feature that allows ROMs to be ranked.
Please submit as many entries as you wish based on the ROMs and versions you've tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232765
Thanks !!!!
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Liquid Smooth ROM, no doubt! It's perfect! I haven't had any crashes and glitches yet!
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Liquid smooth is the best ! As for Tw based rom try X note Zero edition.Its light weight, fast and amazing.The size of the rom is under 400 mb.Try it !
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Hey guys, I have a couple questions for those of you who have good kernel knowledge (especially for HTC One M8).
I'd appreciate if you made your replies as noob proof as possible, since I'm not too familiar with how Kernels work, thank you!
1. What are the best known / most common kernels are available for the HTC One M8? (give names)
2. For each kernel mentioned above, what are the pros and cons, and what do they do that's unique? And how do they compare to stock kernel? (remember to make this noob proof)
Thank you guys for your help.
Depending on how much information and the quality of such information, I will compile all replies given here into its own thread as a kernel guide for the M8, and list the usernames of all who helped in the credits.
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1 : check the Android development and original Android development section and count the threads starting with [KERNEL]
2 : The pros and cons.....just read each independent thread, the opening posts contain all needed info with the mods they carry.
It's all written out already. Just take the time to read. And there are already "kernel talk" threads in the general section. Just explore more in the different sections here.
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1 : check the Android development and original Android development section and count the threads starting with [KERNEL]
2 : The pros and cons.....just read each independent thread, the opening posts contain all needed info with the mods they carry.
It's all written out already. Just take the time to read. And there are already "kernel talk" threads in the general section. Just explore more in the different sections here.
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Hehe thanks, you actually pointed out a flaw in one of my questions, which I'll have to correct the OP to better reflect my needs.
Question 1 should probably be, what are the most common or best known kernels for the M8.
And on another note, I'd just like to repeat and emphasise (something which I'll edit the OP as well to make clearer), this honestly needs to be N00b proof, I'm not joking haha I'm good at understanding ROMs and OSs (I'm an IT student btw), but I'm a complete newbie at Kernels.
Your second answer is something I already have done, and what they described there, was pure jargon to me. A list of what the kernel does, but there is no explanations for what each element on the list is.
And about reading the kernel talk threads, I did some research on Kernels and how to choose the best one for me, but none of them explained fully, more like just looked at the major points (over/underclock, touch to wake support etc...) which honestly i can just as easily get from a ROM.
But there's so much more I do not understand yet, which I would appreciate if you, or someone else explained in a simple not too technical way.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one with such a question.
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Kyuubi10 said:
And about reading the kernel talk threads, I did some research on Kernels and how to choose the best one for me, but none of them explained fully, more like just looked at the major points (over/underclock, touch to wake support etc...) which honestly i can just as easily get from a ROM.
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If you got those feature from a ROM, its only because the ROM included a custom kernel. You can't have those things without changing the kernel.
To me, custom kernels are a very personal thing. What you get (or don't get) out of them depends a lot on how you use your phone. Therefore, I think that is the reason why most kernel threads won't have much description on the exact benefits. I know lots of folks swear by custom kernels and the features they offer. But personally, I've never been much a kernel flasher or tweaker. Reason being, the times I have messed with kernels, they don't seem to give me much benefit in terms of performance (battery and/or responsiveness) and sometimes even hurt those aspects. But again, YMMV and I think it depends a lot on your setup and how you as an individual use your phone.
On that same note, I think it makes a thread like this difficult to construct; or any opinion given possibly not relevant to all. Like ROMs, its not that hard to look at the threads and discern which are most popular (if that is your goal, popular doesn't always mean best). Then pick a few that look good (seem to meet your needs or wants), try them out, and see what works best for you.
I know that sounds like a cop out; but its what I honestly believe.
@redpoint73
I see what you mean, but I am already limiting things only to the M8. So there shouldn't be that many Kernels go talk about.
Having a look through the forums it's no so well organised as to give a clear view of how each kernel compare to each other.
(note: Not to decide which one is best, but to clearly display differences, which could make it easier to see which one is better for the person)
If I was to make a guide on M8 Kernels I'd try to find what is common among them, what you can 100% expect from all Kernels.
Then I'd start naming the Kernels and displaying the different features (and how they are meant to benefit or how they work, because so far I have only found names/initials, which make it hard for a noob to understand what those features are from just a name).
So yeah, that is what I had in mind.
But its hard from purely reading the individual kernel threads, mostly coz I'm a noob at kernels (which is why I created this thread, to understand better kernels)
I had no idea about i/o schedulers... I just did some research, but the worst part is that there are some kernels which just make the names a joke, making it hard to find out what that scheduler really does. And the OP doesn't explain either.
Same is true for CPU governors. But now I'm just ranting.
It seems as there are not many people who know kernels as well as they think they do.
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Why not make it a bit easier on yourself and participate in this thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3103465
Lots of kernel talk,regardless the rom.
I went in as you advised, but it still doesn't cover what I wanted to know, I had to search each specific feature on its own, as I tweaked it.
There are a lot of guides to individual features, no comprehensive guide (with links) for kernels.
I hv decided, I'm gonna play around a bit on my new kernel (ended up going for ElementalX), and then I'll do a kernel guide. Nothing like using a kernel to understand it better right?
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Kyuubi10 said:
I went in as you advised, but it still doesn't cover what I wanted to know, I had to search each specific feature on its own, as I tweaked it.
There are a lot of guides to individual features, no comprehensive guide (with links) for kernels.
I hv decided, I'm gonna play around a bit on my new kernel (ended up going for ElementalX), and then I'll do a kernel guide. Nothing like using a kernel to understand it better right?
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Definitely true there mate, i am on stock as it behaves very good for me. I have no need for a custom one at this moment
Stock is good... I like stock, but I'm trying to learn a bit more, expand my horizons a bit.
Got kinda boring tweaking only the ROM
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Hey guys, as promised, after playing around with Kernels I decided to make a Comprehensive guide on Kernels.
If you wanna have a nosey and give some feedback here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61026926
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The selection of ROMs available is a bit overwhelming. Which one should I be using?
Stock? (Rooted ofcourse)
SuperZen?
Prism?
CM12.1?
Slim?
Omni?
Carbon?
Euphoria?
Paranoid?
And don't say flash them and see for yourself. I don't HAVE TIME to flash all of them, nor am I remotely interested in tinkering with the settings on each and every ROM. I just want to get the best value out of my phone. Aesthetics aside, do they have any notable key differences between them such as stability, performance, battery life, memory usage, or are they all relatively equivalent in that department?
I feel this thread will get flammed.
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I feel this thread will get flammed.
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Why? Are less experienced members not allowed to inquire the more experienced members here?
Using PA, and I never had a 2.3 GB free on my RAM since I bought this phone!
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I tried CM12.1, but there were annoying bugs for me, the phone got warm and battery life was bad.
I went to SuperZen and everything is pretty much like Stock, not much difference other than not having to disable and hide as many apps.
I really wish this phone had better battery life.
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Why? Are less experienced members not allowed to inquire the more experienced members here?
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Yes they are, but best Rom, best kernel threads are frowned upon. All the developers here give their work for free and all strive to provide the best possible software. So in this case comparison equals criticism. You really need to decide what you want and make your decision based on your own reading of the respective threads.
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corrsea said:
Yes they are, but best Rom, best kernel threads are frowned upon. All the developers here give their work for free and all strive to provide the best possible software. So in this case comparison equals criticism. You really need to decide what you want and make your decision based on your own reading of the respective threads.
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Exactly!
Also, the best rom for one person may not be the best for someone else. Everyone uses their device differently, so there's really no other way to know what will work the best other than trying out a few.
Also, you may want to have a look at the sticky threads. (sorry mods, I'll get out of the back seat now)....
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Engr.Jymie said:
Using PA, and I never had a 2.3 GB free on my RAM since I bought this phone!
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i see windows user here. Tell me, why do you buy a 4gb of ram phone if your system uses only 2gb? Android has good ram managment and i love to see 200 mb free ram, then i know it's worth. It's like buying a ferrari car for 20 kmph on country roads.
You didn't understand it, haha, Imagine this, when I'm in the stock ROM, my free RAM is always less than 1GB, then here you are saying it only consume half.
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You should try SlimLP, there aren't any bugs so far, and you get this for your SOT(if you use it efficiently)
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At this state, most ROMS are almost identical. Only a couple have the actual ROM's features. Our PA doesn't have hover/peek (yet). I think only Slim Rom and Team EOS have their features activated. But most (CM based) ROMS have the same bugs.
corrsea said:
Yes they are, but best Rom, best kernel threads are frowned upon. All the developers here give their work for free and all strive to provide the best possible software. So in this case comparison equals criticism. You really need to decide what you want and make your decision based on your own reading of the respective threads.
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I don't see the harm in criticism, so long as it's constructive. If I was developing a product, and my work wasn't up to par with what the people wanted, I feel it would be a disservice to myself and to others to blatantly shun / ignore criticism that could possibly help me develop a superior product.
Are people here really that thin skinned?
Devhux said:
Exactly!
Also, the best rom for one person may not be the best for someone else. Everyone uses their device differently, so there's really no other way to know what will work the best other than trying out a few.
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That may be the case, however, if you read my OP, I clearly state that I am looking for user feedback on KEY differences between the ROMs which affect EVERY single ZenFone2 user (if any exist at all?). Ntrasme just stated that they are all basically identical at this point. Can anyone else testify/confirm that?
Personally, I've tried a few of the CM12.1 derived ROMs myself and did not notice any major differences between them other than a few slight aesthetic changes, which makes me wonder if there is any legitimate reason as to why I should use one over the other
scala_ said:
That may be the case, however, if you read my OP, I clearly state that I am looking for user feedback on KEY differences between the ROMs which affect EVERY single ZenFone2 user (if any exist at all?). Ntrasme just stated that they are all basically identical at this point. Can anyone else testify/confirm that?
Personally, I've tried a few of the CM12.1 derived ROMs myself and did not notice any major differences between them other than a few slight aesthetic changes, which makes me wonder if there is any legitimate reason as to why I should use one over the other
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Literally every ROM will be useful to different people.
Install a ROM. Decide if you like it. OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ THROUGH EACH ROMS THREAD. Please do not clutter the forum with this type of post. It is completely unnecessary. The ROM that works well for me may not work for you. Features I may love, you may have no use for. Literally just spend a few hours or days reading reading reading and more reading up on all these ROMs, and install ones you think will work. You will not receive an answer you are looking for here.
thehritzinator said:
Literally every ROM will be useful to different people.
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And yet, certain aspects between ROMs are universal to all people.
thehritzinator said:
Install a ROM. Decide if you like it. OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ THROUGH EACH ROMS THREAD. Please do not clutter the forum with this type of post. It is completely unnecessary.
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Not unnecessary if you actually comprehend and understand what I'm asking about. Re-read my post kthx.
thehritzinator said:
The ROM that works well for me may not work for you. Features I may love, you may have no use for.
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Re-read my post please. Features, bells and whistles between ROMs are one thing, however, key differences such as performance, stability, memory usage, battery life, etc. are another, which I feel are not nearly as subjective as what you are trying to suggest.
scala_ said:
And yet, certain aspects between ROMs are universal to all people.
Not unnecessary if you actually comprehend and understand what I'm asking about. Re-read my post kthx.
Re-read my post please. Features, bells and whistles between ROMs are one thing, however, key differences such as performance, stability, memory usage, battery life, etc. are another, which I feel are not nearly as subjective as what you are trying to suggest.
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To be honest you have to deside for yourself. No time to flash is not a reason at all. We are all busy and yet spend some time to flash and find our own perfect roms. Developers spend 10x more of that time to bring us FREE rom to flash. Ill give you an example. Says rom #1 is my best rom. i love it give me the best battery life i wanted but it lags here and there which for me its fine. But for a power user. Someone who play games or someone with lots of apps may find it annoying to have lag here and there. And might not care so much about battery therfor labeling the rom not his/her favorite. My setup is unrooted. Looked bootloader. I hate my sot but i have quick chargers at my work. Homr and car. So im good lol
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scala_ said:
And yet, certain aspects between ROMs are universal to all people.
Not unnecessary if you actually comprehend and understand what I'm asking about. Re-read my post kthx.
Re-read my post please. Features, bells and whistles between ROMs are one thing, however, key differences such as performance, stability, memory usage, battery life, etc. are another, which I feel are not nearly as subjective as what you are trying to suggest.
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Oh, I've read your post. And your answers are already all over the dev sections of this forum. Each rom has its own thread, in which users discuss said rom. There you will find people talking about stability, memory usage, etc.
Every.single.one.of.those.is.answered.
Not only in each respective forum, but in your thread. You've already been told. You just didn't like the answer. You are cluttering up the forum.
thehritzinator said:
Oh, I've read your post. And your answers are already all over the dev sections of this forum. Each rom has its own thread, in which users discuss said rom. There you will find people talking about stability, memory usage, etc.
Every.single.one.of.those.is.answered.
Not only in each respective forum, but in your thread. You've already been told. You just didn't like the answer. You are cluttering up the forum.
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Nah, I've looked through each and every one of those threads and clearly it didn't contain the information or answers I was looking for. For one, I've yet to see honest, unbiased and fair comparisons on the key differences between the ROMs. Just because you personally don't find a certain topic of discussion useful doesn't make it clutter. With that said, if you feel my thread clutters the forum, maybe you should stop contributing to the "clutter".
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Nah, I've looked through each and every one of those threads and clearly it didn't contain the information or answers I was looking for. For one, I've yet to see honest, unbiased and fair comparisons on the key differences between the ROMs. Just because you personally don't find a certain topic of discussion useful doesn't make it clutter. With that said, if you feel my thread clutters the forum, maybe you should stop contributing to the "clutter".
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Here is a video a MOD made back in 2012 that describes how to use the search bar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snf0UOVik0M
What specific questions about CM do you have? Post that in the CM Q/A thread
What specific questions about SlimLP do you have? Post that in the SlimLP Q/A thread
honest, unbiased comparison? So if JoeSchmoe XDA user just says "Oh, I'm unbiased", does that mean you'd believe them? Don't look for a comparision guide; Instead, look at threads and/or websites of EACH rom you are considering, and they will tell you every nook and cranny of that rom. Then, you can make an informed decision about which rom to try FIRST. Don't like it? Pick another.
You are not the first, nor the last, to post this exact thread here for the Zenfone 2, even though the phone is barely a few months old.
If you cannot take the time to gain knowledge on the process and the differences of the roms yourself, you should not be attempting to flash a custom firmware.
We are all here for the love of development and technology.
I suggest that if you want a perfect rom, that is the best of all worlds, that you take up programming and show us all how superior you are. :good:
thehritzinator said:
Instead, look at threads and/or websites of EACH rom you are considering, and they will tell you every nook and cranny of that rom.
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Not true. Alot of the ROMs are still in testing, and even the devs dont even know every nook and cranny on wtf is going on. Reason I started this thread is to figure out core differences. Usually there is a de facto consensus on what is the best ROM to use on a device, but with ZF2 apparently that's not the case as each ROM is basically equivalent / derived from one another.
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We are all here for the love of development and technology.
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so what if i told you there were people here who just want the best option for their phone, and could actually benefit from a comparison guide between the list of ROMs, because *GOD FORBID* they could careless about investing their time into the development and tech side of things because:
a) they have actual jobs.
b) a life.
c) would rather spend that time trying to get laid instead of nerding it out.