Hi.. Just for all know what is the most used rom's and what this rom have about good and bad, fast and slow...
Lets started people....
Why do you prefer your rom?
dehzincwb said:
Hi.. Just for all know what is the most used rom's and what this rom have about good and bad, fast and slow...
Lets started people....
Why do you prefer your rom?
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you don't like reading, right?
I would like to hear this too, but the moderators have decided that these kind of discussions are forbidden here on XDAdev. They believe that because it's subjective it's somehow pointless to discuss. I don't agree, I believe that you can see what people share your preferences and base your ROM selection upon their experiences.
I'm presently running Swtos 1.0 full and I do like it. I've experienced no bugs, my only gripe is that the help files are removed (yes, I sometimes want them) and that I'd like more speed and responsiveness - but then again, are we ever satisfied in that department? Looking to Swiftblades 7.0 16pp and Swtos 1.4 full for upgrade.
Good luck in keeping the thread open.
swiftblade
(explaination below - suits my needs / min apps and is one, speedwise is one of the quicker ones in tf3d)
but as above... good luck keeping it from being closed... everyone has different needs... and depending on apps they install (which can affect the overall speed of each rom) you'll have no concensus and 2183491749183471 different responses of why its the best
I like it chocolatflavoured.
Rumours
I was told that Zebedeus's release 1.56.8 was able to make cappucino's !!
But nonfagotme's upcoming release 0,0001 is more stable in terms and conditions I red on stupidnonsens's thread
Enough laughs - Who's gonna request this to be locked guys?
hummmm
ill give it 30 seconds
if you look down you can see what i am using
I think a thread like this is great. Egos shouldn't be aloud to stand in the way of opinion. It's OBVIOUS that speed etc is subjective, but just like when you buy a car magazine, it's still nice to hear other people's opinions - it gives you a base from which to build your own experience.
I am using Swift's v7.0 16mb full ROM and it's great - very stable and very fast, what more could anyone want from a ROM? I tend to steer clear from the ROMs/chefs surrounded in hype and shameless self-promotion as I believe a good ROM speaks for itself.
I think there are all about the same for 99%.
I did like the french ringtone aztor put in it
disagree- a question like this is subjective and irationale.
There is no such thing as "best" - no values- no perception - no speed (as this is ONLY in the eye of the beholder)
The ONLY reason people post this Question (as I did when I started 700 posts ago with my XDA) is not to have to read hundreds of pages of pro's and con's for each ROM.
My 2 cents
simcarloc said:
I think a thread like this is great. Egos shouldn't be aloud to stand in the way of opinion. It's OBVIOUS that speed etc is subjective, but just like when you buy a car magazine, it's still nice to hear other people's opinions - it gives you a base from which to build your own experience.
I am using Swift's v7.0 16mb full ROM and it's great - very stable and very fast, what more could anyone want from a ROM? I tend to steer clear from the ROMs/chefs surrounded in hype and shameless self-promotion as I believe a good ROM speaks for itself.
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dude you got my absolute respect for ur second paragraph
Hi, i´m using the Spanish version of Elite Project 3.3, for the language.
Anyway, maybe this thread can be changed by a "Survey Type", this way you can save hundred of pages and in 1 sec have a "impression" on this subjetive topic....What do you think?
here here!
jeromenism said:
dude you got my absolute respect for ur second paragraph
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what can you say about a chef who does this for all the hard work for nothing
and won't take donations for himself...a true gent
ceevee369 said:
disagree- a question like this is subjective and irationale.
There is no such thing as "best" - no values- no perception - no speed (as this is ONLY in the eye of the beholder)
The ONLY reason people post this Question (as I did when I started 700 posts ago with my XDA) is not to have to read hundreds of pages of pro's and con's for each ROM.
My 2 cents
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I don't think the original poster was asking about 'best', at least that's the way I understood his post. We all read through endless posts about various ROMs and it's inevitable that we wonder - 'I would love to know how x ROM fares against Y rom'. What's so bad about allowing people to post their subjective experiences so that a common denominator through comparison is formed, allowing people to assess which ROM may be best suited to them? If people have flashed and tested many ROMs, why can't we benefit from their experiences? We aren't children, we can discern for ourselves which post to believe/disregard!
It's like Orwell's 1984 around here sometimes
ceevee369 said:
disagree- a question like this is subjective and irationale.
There is no such thing as "best" - no values- no perception - no speed (as this is ONLY in the eye of the beholder)
The ONLY reason people post this Question (as I did when I started 700 posts ago with my XDA) is not to have to read hundreds of pages of pro's and con's for each ROM.
My 2 cents
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Subjective - yes, but so is everything we percieve. Subjective doesn't imply irrational. What I think IS irrational is actually having to read through hundreds of pages of ROM threads to find info you need.
Forums like these are also about collecting and organizing information. I argue it would be RATIONAL to collect experiences in a single thread, instead of having bits and pieces scattered all over the forum.
I HAVE read through pretty much all the ROM threads, and I enjoy making up my own mind from the information there.
Still, I lack the direct comparisons most people here are so afraid to make. Most people only say sth like: "the rom is very fast". Compared to what? Compared to another cooked ROM or to a stock ROM?
My 2 cents.
I want to get pushed to use it.
The more ego, the better. I need a rom from someone that 'dares' and keeps creating roms everyone knows, and wants everyone to try it. I tend to pay for quality too. I don't believe in making something 'for free', its good for the creator only then. With, all respect offcourse, exeptions are always present.
losdrivare said:
Subjective - yes, but so is everything we percieve. Subjective doesn't imply irrational. What I think IS irrational is actually having to read through hundreds of pages of ROM threads to find info you need.
My 2 cents.
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Well, seems like this tread is going to be 20 roms x hundreds of pages is 20.000 pages of opinion to read when that comes true?
they are basically all the same in terms of speed, it all depends what functionality you want from it.
Riel said:
Well, seems like this tread is going to be 20 roms x hundreds of pages is 20.000 pages of opinion to read when that comes true?
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Well, if you take the average ROM thread and remove all individual post only stating:
"How do I flash?"
"My flash stop at 0%"
"What is hard-SPL?"
"Opera crashes"
"Activesync is always active"
and also remove all requests for this or that app, language etc, with the chefs and everyone elses anwers to this...
There wouldn't be much left now, would it?
liamhere said:
what can you say about a chef who does this for all the hard work for nothing
and won't take donations for himself...a true gent
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we call the chef - SWIFTBLADE!
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Ok i said i would make a new one so here goes. This is a place where you can tell what you like about a rom and what you think could be adressed. Please keep it on topic and Maybe the new people can look here first and pick which rom they will flash but before you do please read the Wiki and all the other posts that are stickys and there is a great upgrade guide made by MrVanx which can be found here! So go read... Anyone that has something negative to say well I could careless cuz I'm not here to make friends just pimp my Hermes! this place is full of great cooks and true WM guru's read and learn not post and ask is your best bet in the start
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
Black 3.5 is not included since it is no longer posted or supported on this forum however my black 3.5 super lite is
Please Note new comers that we do not have the time to give nice happy responses to questions that have been asked 1000000 of times so its best to search about your issue or question before starting a new thread I have warned you and will now say that with starting a new thread you leave yourself open to being flamed and abused in all kinds of ways if your question has been talked about before....
this is a good idea. I will be creating an excel spreadsheet to document this if we get some good responses. chefs contact me for log.
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Whats good for one user is not good for another thats why the poll does not make sense. An updated chart of tweaks, programs installed and kernel and perhaps what the rom is geared towards would be more useful.
lets all grow up a little.. if you dont like a thread that someone made then dont post..
Post's have been deleted for not really being on topic
I voted LVSW. It is a Vanilla flavor of a STABLE ROM. I have my own CABs for anything else I use. Did I mention it was STABLE!!!!!
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lets all grow up a little.. if you dont like a thread that someone made then dont post..
Post's have been deleted for not really being on topic
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Well it's not the first time you delete threads that hit the heart of a topic, remember when i started a thread on WM6 for the Herms long before WM6 was even a thought of running on the Herms and you deleted posts in my thread and changed my topic? It's all kiss ass even between some of the mods here if you ask me In the end this poll still SUCKS!!!
I picked LSVW after using all of Blacks ROM's that produced unstable results with MMS and repeated resets.
As I have only flashed and run two of the WM6 ROMs that have been posted, I don't really know how valid my vote is, but I chose Custel's work. I decided to try his 2.5 Cingular version mainly because of the way Custel handles himself in the forum, and also because of the good reviews he was getting in his threads.
This ROM has been very stabile on my device, even with the plethora of apps I choose to install. It is faster than any of the ROMs I've used, including a few shipped versions of WM5, and the storage and program space it gives me is wonderful.
My gratitude goes out to Custel, all the other chefs, and also to the brilliant people who've created the various tools required to pull off this ... um ... competition. And also to XDA-DEV for it's hosting of this fabulous site.
Regards,
-pvs
Black???
Departure Jasjammina from xda- dev should not be reason rendering his ROM from inquiry popularity. Inquiry without Black ROM them as car without wheels
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I voted LVSW. It is a Vanilla flavor of a STABLE ROM. I have my own CABs for anything else I use. Did I mention it was STABLE!!!!!
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these are my words
Matrix44
DAFTEK said:
Well it's not the first time you delete threads that hit the heart of a topic, remember when i started a thread on WM6 for the Herms long before WM6 was even a thought of running on the Herms and you deleted posts in my thread and changed my topic? It's all kiss ass even between some of the mods here if you ask me In the end this poll still SUCKS!!!
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it wasnt about deleting because they may or may not have hit the heart of the topic, thats all up to personal opinion.. when i saw the topic and replies i was looking at it in a different direction; "can this thread be helpful to others?" so i answered myself yes and continued playing waste management. its not about kiss ass either, its about keeping things calm around here, everyone complains about n00b posts, etc.. but no one wants to help make it a better place.. I would have done the same thing if you had posted this or some n00b with 1 post under their belt and things got out of control.. its simple.. IF YOU DONT LIKE A THREAD THEN DONT RESPOND TO IT... if no one responds then it will fall to the bottom of the list, its that simple
~no reply is necessary, we are just hijacking this thread, if you have a problem with me, or my moderation style then pm
Good to see LVSW on the list. His ROMs have always been very stable.
@shogunmark..... And i agree with you 100% on that response but, Can you see that in the end this is still a fight between JJ's Black and the rest? Custel? Only that austynsnyc is the puppet here Maybe i am wrong but this is why i don't like this poll and if i am then you all have my apologies and ill go back to my corner.
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Good to see LVSW on the list. His ROMs have always been very stable.
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If you cant beat them, join them, so i did.... I voted LVSW #1 overall best, then all the Variants also deserve credit for the final iron works...
Also may i add, That even after the second time around on this poll the first time he was not included, this time YOU GOT HIS NAME WRONG IN THE POLL lol
I'd like to make my vote, but there must be an option to choose more than one version... i think...
And like to see Black in the list...don't understund why isn't in the pool...
Regards.
for those of you that did not follow the first one. Black has been taken out because JJ is not releasing his ROM on this forum and this poll is open to ROM's released in this forum. Yes there have been many polls before and I'm sure there will be many more unless we have one stickied!! Hint Hint... this is a good place to talk about what you like and what you would like improved in the ROM. thanks for the strict moderation. Sorry for spelling LWSV name wrong oops... at least i think i have all the major players this time until the next batch comes along.
Personally i like my ROM's because they have the extra stuff that i never use taken out and the major stuff still left in which give me very large storage to add what ever i like and not worry about it also i always run a 4MB pagepool which i believe is faster and more stable than a 6MB
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Yes there have been many polls before and I'm sure there will be many more unless we have one stickied!! Hint Hint... this is a good place to talk about what you like and what you would like improved in the ROM. thanks for the strict moderation. Sorry for spelling LWSV name wrong oops... at least i think i have all the major players this time until the next batch comes along.
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What about the posibility to choose more than one..... can you do this in the poll?
no the whole point of this really is so new members can come here and look at what other people say about the roms and and others views and maybe help them in finding out which one is right for them with out asking the time ending question ""Which Rom is The Best"
we all know all the ROMS released here are fuken great but some people like different things thats all thats why i ask everyone to write there like and disslikes about the rom the think is the best for THEM... all these roms benchmark the same pretty much so deep inside there are only a few key changes such as kernel XIP and so on but most members dont know about that stuff they just want to know if it works and what cool apps it comes with
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@shogunmark..... And i agree with you 100% on that response but, Can you see that in the end this is still a fight between JJ's Black and the rest? Custel? Only that austynsnyc is the puppet here Maybe i am wrong but this is why i don't like this poll and if i am then you all have my apologies and ill go back to my corner.
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that may very well be... but someone out there is going to read this thread and find some of the informational useful and will make their decision based on it. But i do think that all the roms, even jj's should have been included, he isnt the first chef to move their roms and support, sometimes its just natural progression..
Agreement
Agreement - thank you
Hi guys (first post!)
I have a couple of questions before I flash WM6 on my trinity. The two main versions are MUN and LVSW's flavours of WM6. However, I would like to know what are the main differences between the two current latest versions (such as OS/program versions, program lists etc).
How is the stability of either of these versions compared to my factory Orange M700 (WM5)?
What are the main bugs?
Is it worth flashing a buggy WM6 over a stable WM5? What are the advantages?
Thanks in advance for the replies
Hm, threads like this can sometimes kill good collaboration, even when they don't intend to. You should heed the statement inherent in your moniker. You are who you are, and you should chose accordingly.
They are both good ROMs. Read through the threads, learn a bit about both, then decide which one work better for the person that you are.
Do us a favor and delete this thread.
iamwhoiam said:
Hi guys (first post!)
I have a couple of questions before I flash WM6 on my trinity. The two main versions are MUN and LVSW's flavours of WM6. However, I would like to know what are the main differences between the two current latest versions (such as OS/program versions, program lists etc).
How is the stability of either of these versions compared to my factory Orange M700 (WM5)?
What are the main bugs?
Is it worth flashing a buggy WM6 over a stable WM5? What are the advantages?
Thanks in advance for the replies
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Read through the threads. Read the wiki. Do searches.
Try each rom (there are more than just these two, rom variants exist too) on your device...decide for yourself, according to your needs.
Nobody will respond to a poll like this, who respects the work of XDA rom developers, because it's not in the spirit of of this site.
DeviLduck said:
Read through the threads. Read the wiki. Do searches.
Try each rom (there are more than just these two, rom variants exist too) on your device...decide for yourself, according to your needs.
Nobody will respond to a poll like this, who respects the work of XDA rom developers, because it's not in the spirt of of this site.
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Nothing can substitute your own personal experience, it is the only important thing in this trip called Life... In every area and in every situation, give it a try...
I buy a Trinity. I find a forum dedicated to my new wonderphone on the internet. There are so many pages on this forum but I manage to find details of WM6 ROMS available for my device. But the threads for each of the main ROMS are like 100 pages long. Can you imaging reading through all that? Me neither - so I'll be clever, start a poll and let everyone else summarise the threads and decide for me. An idea nearly as genius as my new phone. If only life were so simple.
Now think about it.
1. If everyone created a new thread like this, we'd have a site full of crappy threads, non of them with much information (nobody is going to repeat their reply posts time and time again to the same questions/issues. The site would be rubbish
2. Your usage of the ROM may differ from others and you may come across some "bugs" that nobody else has - you thereby contribute to the development of the ROM by highlighting difficulties that you have - and things you like about the new ROM build.
3. How good a ROM is depends what you do with it or what you want to do with it. Do you video call a lot? Do you MMS a lot? Do you email a lot? Is taking photos with GPS coordinates the most important feature for you? These things will influence your choice of ROM.
So to reiterate: give them a try, read through the threads (all of the work, experiences, information is there - but need to be read - nobody will summarise for you), don't expect any nealed's ROMS are by far the best - don't consider anything else type of answers - you won't get them (each ROM has it's merits and if there was a ROM so buggy that it was awful, I think you would probably know about it through the posts in the threads), and lastly, once you have tried different ROMS share your experiences. But remember facts and data - (this does not work, that seems slower, this option has disappeared) rather than I prefer, I think etc - which is a lot less useful.
Welcome to xda-developers iamwhoiam. Be yourself and express yourself, but don't try to rubbish the hard work of any one ROM developer over another.
Now, in the wise words of MacGuy2006
Do us a favour and delete this thread.
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Keyboard color and remove HTC home
sorry worng thread
MODS deleat this Damn Useless THREAD
Yo!!!! MAN "IAMWHOIAM"
U might be nuts and really Damn mad,
Man If u wanna check both great cookers Roms, so why hell u dont try it BOTH and check yourself, No need to compare any Roms here, because no one Works for you Damn it and U are not Obliged to use any roms of any Cookers Nor to Offence them. So Damn it your Useless questions and remarks to hell and Keep it for yourself.
Here Guys days and nights are making great and wonderfull jobs, really hard works and DAMN NO ONE PAY THEM FOR ALL, And nor they have any obligation towards Us. All brothers, friends, Cookers, Helpers, Testers are here to make this Community to be better each day and each times.
So man, i really dont know From where U fall out, but "Brother" Tight your nuts well and Keep your mouth shut from Asking NONSENSE. Thank You to Better Understand NOW.
That this is an "unhappy", "uninspired" and "let the others decide for me" (as nealed said) thread, true.
That fresh users nowadays don't use the search funtion, true.
But there's no need for being cruel, rude and impolite.
Maybe we would need more mods to sort things out, delete/move/ban/etc. threads.
Which WM6-Rom is the best for the XDA-Trion??
Thanks for your Help
...let it begin
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Hurray, another newbie jumps in without doing his research.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280506
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283336
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1547390
Just as a few examples of all the other people who asked the same sort of question.
The simple answer? The best ROM is the one that you like best. There's no right answer. But make sure you do your research first - if you go flashing them without doing HardSPL, then you might end up with a nice new shiny paperweight.
There's a list of some of the ROMs at the wiki, where your journey should have begun. There's also some excellent guides over at MrVanx's site.
(In another note... when are people going to do their research? :-/)
Be thankful I wrote this before everyone else tears your head off...
"The simple answer? The best ROM is the one that you like best."
What if this guy is evil and considers the best ROM to be the one that you like the least?
for me i cant sem to decide. Ive had em all, well a lot of of em anyway. I keep switching back and forth. But yeah definately read read read. Some do run a bit faster than other been when it comes down to it, its gonna be personal liking. Good luck
i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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Likes/dislikes, reviews, and comparisons for each ROM can be found in the threads dedicated to those ROMs. Simply read what every who has replied has to say about it.
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
I prefer vp3G's ROMs.
drutort said:
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
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A "contest" is unnecessary, and a list of suggestions/ideas would be just as hard to wade through.
As the Hermes is nearing the end of its development cycle, this will be a moot point soon. But if you want to put something together, the best idea would be a review website. Instead of saying which is better, just list all of the features that each ROM has, along with screenshots and metrics on battery life and speed. Then people can decide on their own which is better.
vp3g's rom is the best.. but thats cause im partial to ATT
drutort said:
i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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So when are you going to get started on this then? Please point us to the link when you are done.
Cheers
WB
drutort said:
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
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Yes, it is slow. But flashing a Hermes ROM is not something you rush. Always do your homework.
I disagree on the unreliable part, however. Its like when software is developed, they dont have ONE person test it, because bugs, etc. can be overlooked easily. They have MANY testers. The replies to the threads are from the, if you will, testers of the ROM. They report good and bad. I don't know any better way, besides trying for yourself. I personally research tho.
personal opinion either of shamanix or schaps roms have been stable and worked for me pretty well
steve0020 said:
Which WM6-Rom is the best for the XDA-Trion??
Thanks for your Help
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Link below is for your Triton. This threat is for Hermes only.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
My personal opinion for Hermes is Kin0Kin and Schaps' Rom. These ROMs are fast and stable.
@Admins, Banish me if you will for this post, but i think it has to be said...
All rom cookers do a great job (i my self use a rom made from them for my Hermes).
But i wonder if it would be better to create much less frequent but also much more stable and bug-less roms.
I can not stop feeling i enter a super market when ever i visit this forum, where you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....
Obnoxious Comment
If you do no tlike it or if you are, somehow, displeased you have three options:
1. Simply don't use them
2. Look the other way
3. Leave the Forum
Greetings,
or just cook your own Ideal Rom
Kevlar-Source said:
If you do no tlike it or if you are, somehow, displeased you have three options:
1. Simply don't use them
2. Look the other way
3. Leave the Forum
Greetings,
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Agreed 101%
the whole reason they are frequent is to keep them bug free
or more stable cores etc.
at the end of the day if you dont like it as Kevlar source said - dont come to the forum..
and my 2cents - use an official rom and quit complaining!
Tech world changes every darn minute, no wonder why this forum changes every minute too! Just take what you want and leave the rest alone!! Makes everyone happy!!!!
Junk Thread!!
kingsizeriz said:
the whole reason they are frequent is to keep them bug free
or more stable cores etc.
at the end of the day if you dont like it as Kevlar source said - dont come to the forum..
and my 2cents - use an official rom and quit complaining!
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ai6908 said:
Tech world changes every darn minute, no wonder why this forum changes every minute too! Just take what you want and leave the rest alone!! Makes everyone happy!!!!
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+1
amen
... where is JR from Ewing Oil?
There's LEARNING and EXPERIENCES when you have some problem. And here WE are to solve THAT problem together. If you can't make any CONTRIBUTION for this Forum, then STOP complaining and START to be a "USER" and help the author (and other member) to make a better result for all of us.
The point is USE WHAT YOU LIKE but NEVER JUDGE what you don't like .
rgds,
Ermen
Please now that you see you made a or half point please change your title (advanced edit) . It's pity for all the real cookers. Thanks
i like the roms... and the most are stable enough.
i know this isn't the right section, but it had to be said:
i don't like the way the roms are presented in this forum.
for example the title of the topics. it's so chaotic. on every title is "update" but in real they are so old.
another example: there are topics sticky which are one year old. and nobody needs them.
correct me if i'm wrong that nobody needs them. for example again: the rom kitchen of bepe. the images are also down of that topic.
but i like the roms and i am happy that this great forum exists XD but this forum could be better, if the topics were more coherent.
*sry for bad english*
I happen to like seeing all of the new rom postings. It's a great way to see what new software is out there, along with I cannot cook a rom if my life depened on it. The heck with this guy..
Great job to all rom chefs! Thanks for all the hard work!
Yes, some of these old stickys have out lived their usefullness and just take up space. They need to be reviewed & removed periodically by someone!
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... you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....
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the biggest problem with your statement is that you're expecting something with no cost (read: free) as if you do with commercial products.
it's like expecting linux community (or open source community for that matter) that they can come up with an absolute software suite like Microsoft's, sure you get 1 option to choose from and you can expect quality and such, the thing is that Gates makes billions off of it while the chefs here don't.
I gotta ask, do you expect someone to make this "PERFECT" rom, or just pull it out of their bum? Thats why this site exists, to try to refine and make the perfect rom. Impossible mission if you ask me as MY perfect rom WON'T be YOURS...
All feed back given goes into making a stable and fast rom BUT that takes time. By the time someone has cooked the "perfect" rom, another core has come along that makes the rom just cooked look bad. Why do you think the chefs keep cooking???
Thank you to all the rom chefs out there.... Love your work.
I'll probably catch H-e-double hockey-stick for saying this, but I half way agree with the post... I definitely appreciate the hard work the chef's put in, and realize that the majority of them never see a dime for their efforts. But it does seem, at times, that some of them are just putting out ROMs as fast as they can with little or no attempt to thoroughly test the stability of what they're about to imply is ok to put on our (expensive) phones. Again - I understand this is time consuming and they cannot possibly test all the combinations of hardware and software configurations, but some ROMs have seemed so instable as to imply they weren't tested *at all*. I think a certain few chefs (eg VP3g) go the extra mile to make sure what they put on here is worthy of this forum.
Having said that, the chefs definitely do us all a great service and I thank them all. I'm a proud holder of an 8525 with a DVH ROM and, as a software developer for the government I'm sure I could cook a ROM... but the point is - I don't have the time or desire... These chefs sacrifice their time so that people like us can (better) enjoy our phones...
That's just my 2c worth.
lol nobody can make a bugless rom.. if you dont like cooked roms use an official one and see how you like that, half the speed, zero features, resets every day, doesnt even work really.
I can't see how topics like this keep getting everyone's attention. I mean the topic's title is one thing and the content is another. People who do nothing and expect/demand everything should not get this kind of attention at all. This topic should be locked asap.
"In Japan, you'd be dead" -- Jet Li (Lethal Weapon 4)
Asxetos said:
@Admins, Banish me if you will for this post, but i think it has to be said...
All rom cookers do a great job (i my self use a rom made from them for my Hermes).
But i wonder if it would be better to create much less frequent but also much more stable and bug-less roms.
I can not stop feeling i enter a super market when ever i visit this forum, where you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....
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I really don't understand this attitude. What is the name of this forum? XDA-DEVELOPERS. What does that mean? That means this is a developers forum. And that implies that everything in this forum is in development. All the roms you find here are created by developers for developers. We are the parasites. We are leeching on whatever we find. Most of the time, we don't know what we are leeching on. That is because we are not DEVELOPERS. But that doesn't mean we can teach the DEVELOPERS how to behave. Don't you think that it would be very very cruel to come here, leech on their products and then teach them how to work?
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
What use you ?
I guess that depends very much on what you're looking for. Until you decide what it is you want, nobody is EVER going to give you the right answer.
For me, the best ROM is the one my device came with..it's stable and works. I have never felt the need to flash a new one, esp since just about every ROM I've ever read about has a problem in one way or another (even if it is fixed the next day)
Actually, I have to say that I'm always disappointed by the number of ROMS that come out....it seems that there's new ones almost every day. I appreicate that these are released to allow people to test and report back, but surely they should be restricted to a handful of beta testers perhaps?
ok..back in my box now...apologies
p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
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The one that works best for you and best suits your individual needs.
if you dont want this thread closing i suggest you put a list of things you need require want and ask what meets your requirements. you have been warned!!!
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Hi
May I respectfully suggest you have a trawl through the Blackstone Rom threads and see what you like and as mentioned above what best suits you. Most of the topics have a change log or features log and screenshots to help you make your mind up.
Then read the Wiki to gather all the info needed to actually start changing to the ROM you find is best for you.
Regards
p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
What use you ?
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I use Onkolog's and I'm very satisfied. In terms of speed it does not compare with the stock ROM, much faster. Very stable and quite Spartan, the way I like it. Hope this helps a bit more than most of the posts I've seen in this thread.
It depends on what you want.
Do you want a light, fast & probably stable ROM?
Or a heavy ROM with many programs on it?
Or between that?
I use dutty's 2.3 at the moment, but I don't use TF3D.
Take a look at what ROM's you want.
PS: the manila 3 is nice, so pick one with manila 3 and check out your new TF3D Look
In my case, after testing several realeased roms, I am using Dutty's 2.1. It is very satisfactory. I tried versions 2.2 and 2.3 but I don't particularly like the new start menu (I have a lot of programs installed and it doesn't suit my needs).
Try any of the versions (v2.xx) available at dutty's website. Any of them will amaze your relatives and friends.
I'm just surprised no MOD closed this thread!!
This is a common question with no answer as everyone is different so obviously everyones likes & dislikes will be different so no point asking which rom is better as what you may like, the next person won't!
Go into each rom thread, read up on them and flash whichever one appeals most to you. If you aren't happy, flash another!!
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!
Go into each rom thread, read up on them and flash whichever one appeals most to you. If you aren't happy, flash another!!
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!
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agrreee with yo Fallen Spartan, bravo!!
today it's perfect but tomorrow it's not
Fallen Spartan said:
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!
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agree... at moment i´m using duttys v2.3... but also miri´s v5 is very nice...
What, no deleting threads?
I asked a similar question to this about 2 months ago, having just bought a Blackstone, and got a short, sharp message about searching instead of trying to start a conversation and engage people. The thread got deleted a few minutes later.
Glad this didn't happen to you, good luck choosing a ROM. People on this forum are very helpful and talented, but can be incredibly rude at times.
krs360 said:
I asked a similar question to this about 2 months ago, having just bought a Blackstone, and got a short, sharp message about searching instead of trying to start a conversation and engage people. The thread got deleted a few minutes later.
Glad this didn't happen to you, good luck choosing a ROM. People on this forum are very helpful and talented, but can be incredibly rude at times.
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I understand your comment, but if I can defend a few people on this site. Yes, some are rude and they generally get banned due to complaints....and rightly so. But others may have come across as rude but are infact actually good natured people who are just annoyed at getting asked the same questions day in.
As you said you asked the same question a few months ago and I can guarantee this same question has been asked dozens of other times. This is why we always ask people to read threads before posting new ones, and at the top of each forum included in the rules etc it also states this.
I try and be as helpful when I can and answer every query to the best of my knowledge, but I've also lost my cool once or twice.
My previous post in this thread is basically as much as anyone can offer on this subject.
Anyway, thats my two cents on the subject!!
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I understand your comment, but if I can defend a few people on this site. Yes, some are rude and they generally get banned due to complaints....and rightly so. But others may have come across as rude but are infact actually good natured people who are just annoyed at getting asked the same questions day in.
As you said you asked the same question a few months ago and I can guarantee this same question has been asked dozens of other times. This is why we always ask people to read threads before posting new ones, and at the top of each forum included in the rules etc it also states this.
I try and be as helpful when I can and answer every query to the best of my knowledge, but I've also lost my cool once or twice.
My previous post in this thread is basically as much as anyone can offer on this subject.
Anyway, thats my two cents on the subject!!
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Very well said. a) I too am surprised this didn't get closed. b) I agree, I don't think it's as much as people being rude but it gets annoying when the same questions are asked without using the search button.
and c) each ROM IS different. I've installed about a dozen different ROMs on my Blackstone and each one had their issues and/or benefits.
For the most part, I followed Dutty's ROMs but 2-3 weeks ago, I tried David's ROMs and though they're both great, I actually found an older ROM from David that I extremely liked when I disabled 3FTD. My phone is stable, extremely fast and has what I need in it.
It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. After 3 years of upgrading ROM's (started back with a Razr) I can finally say I'm happy with the my current ROM and have no desire to upgrade.
So, start modding and good luck.
Mark
"It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. "
Sound advice by Mark. I personally have tried most roms available as well - currently using Dutty 2.4 quite happy with it, I found the new Dutty version release slighty slower then the 2.4.
orangecrush said:
It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. After 3 years of upgrading ROM's (started back with a Razr) I can finally say I'm happy with the my current ROM and have no desire to upgrade.
So, start modding and good luck.
Mark
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Agreed with riz157. Sound advice
But I think all that can be said on this has been! Could a MOD close this thread.
Cheers
HTC Blackstone Roms
i am still searching for the best one...
mcfly444 said:
i am still searching for the best one...
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Try Duttys HD Leo Holy Grail R0. I'm sure you will like it..
The only thing that misses in this beautiful rom is the languagepack
p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
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Hello,the legal official rom . All cooked roms are full of bugs ...
1.56 stock rom