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whiche rom is the best wm6 ???
guess there are as many openions as people otherwise there would be only 1
This must be the 10th post I've seen asking this question.
and the answers are:
1. All of them.
2. None of them.
3. Whichever you like best.
4. Whichever suits your needs best.
5. don't ask silly questions
have a great day
Cant we make one of these posts stick??
This question arise because people don't know (and probably don't want to find out) which ROMs is the stablest, fastest, so on, so on, so on...
Every ROM has it's functionalities and issues. Maybe it's a good idea to do some sort of table containing the know issues and the features. In my humble opinion this table would need to be updated by the Chefs to avoid hazardous input.
DoomFragger said:
This question arise because people don't know (and probably don't want to find out) which ROMs is the stablest, fastest, so on, so on, so on...
Every ROM has it's functionalities and issues. Maybe it's a good idea to do some sort of table containing the know issues and the features. In my humble opinion this table would need to be updated by the Chefs to avoid hazardous input.
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Nobody can 1. be bothered 2. see any real use 3. take the time out to do the "table" look and read this forum and you will see - it an't going to happen - unless you prove me wrong!
What do you mean hazardous input? This ROM is no good - I'm the cook - it's hazardous to my work - so I'll edit and delete that post? That would be great.
it was about time for another topic like that. the last one was one week ago or something.
i think that we witness another global phenomenon beside the global warming - the global IQ dropping.
only way to go about this is to try them all and help the next guy who ask this question by posting your findings in trinitys wiki
The search function is not hidden...!
There is a button who is called Search... Try to use it a bit and you will discover a lot in this Forum... Even statistics where people voted for Rom's...
Useless Question in my opinion...
furiardy said:
whiche rom is the best wm6 ???
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If you ask 6 people, you get 7 different answers.
Man, do it like I did: Read the threads for each ROM a little bit and you get the idea.
I would certainly be able to give you a complete overview over all the WM6 ROMs, but you have to paypal me 500 USD first.
Pick 1 randomly and try it, if you don't experience any major problems in a few days time, keep it
They're all about the same anyway... I personally luv the PDA Viet one coz it's the most stable for me. Also luv the music launcher.
Indigo's also pretty good imo, with TouchFLO built in.
Please : read, try, report for having your own opinion and stop asking useless question .... thx !!
Which WM6-Rom is the best for the XDA-Trion??
Thanks for your Help
...let it begin
DING DING DING
Hurray, another newbie jumps in without doing his research.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280506
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283336
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1547390
Just as a few examples of all the other people who asked the same sort of question.
The simple answer? The best ROM is the one that you like best. There's no right answer. But make sure you do your research first - if you go flashing them without doing HardSPL, then you might end up with a nice new shiny paperweight.
There's a list of some of the ROMs at the wiki, where your journey should have begun. There's also some excellent guides over at MrVanx's site.
(In another note... when are people going to do their research? :-/)
Be thankful I wrote this before everyone else tears your head off...
"The simple answer? The best ROM is the one that you like best."
What if this guy is evil and considers the best ROM to be the one that you like the least?
for me i cant sem to decide. Ive had em all, well a lot of of em anyway. I keep switching back and forth. But yeah definately read read read. Some do run a bit faster than other been when it comes down to it, its gonna be personal liking. Good luck
i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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Likes/dislikes, reviews, and comparisons for each ROM can be found in the threads dedicated to those ROMs. Simply read what every who has replied has to say about it.
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
I prefer vp3G's ROMs.
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yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
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A "contest" is unnecessary, and a list of suggestions/ideas would be just as hard to wade through.
As the Hermes is nearing the end of its development cycle, this will be a moot point soon. But if you want to put something together, the best idea would be a review website. Instead of saying which is better, just list all of the features that each ROM has, along with screenshots and metrics on battery life and speed. Then people can decide on their own which is better.
vp3g's rom is the best.. but thats cause im partial to ATT
drutort said:
i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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So when are you going to get started on this then? Please point us to the link when you are done.
Cheers
WB
drutort said:
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
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Yes, it is slow. But flashing a Hermes ROM is not something you rush. Always do your homework.
I disagree on the unreliable part, however. Its like when software is developed, they dont have ONE person test it, because bugs, etc. can be overlooked easily. They have MANY testers. The replies to the threads are from the, if you will, testers of the ROM. They report good and bad. I don't know any better way, besides trying for yourself. I personally research tho.
personal opinion either of shamanix or schaps roms have been stable and worked for me pretty well
steve0020 said:
Which WM6-Rom is the best for the XDA-Trion??
Thanks for your Help
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Link below is for your Triton. This threat is for Hermes only.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
My personal opinion for Hermes is Kin0Kin and Schaps' Rom. These ROMs are fast and stable.
Sorry to waste a thread but I guess I have a point here:
Coming from Hermes and then Kasier communities (and flashing hundreds of SPL/Radio/Rom on my Hermes & Kaiser for many months) I thought that at least I am able to upgrade HardSpl or Radio or Rom on any PDA.
Now I've got my Diamond and entering the Diamond Rom dev I feel as if I've entered a new website.
What's going on here ? Chefs and developers have teamed up together and are divided into various groups competing with each other. Diamond rom dev is not having the cooperative feeling of Kaisr community at all.
There's no unified (bipartisan) thread for HardSpl. Each group is saying that our HardSpl is the best.
I understand that different ROM developers make different roms. But what about HardSpl and Radio ?
ROM threads are turned to Stickys???
Isn't it something new to this community?
Even HardSPl threads (directly or indirectly) direct us to certain ROM dev teams.
Am I the only person confused here ?
What happened to the bipartisan Moderators ABOVE rom chefs ?
In fact, as far as I can see, Chefs have become Mods and this weakens the unified and bipartisan feel we used to see in Hermes or Kaiser ...etc. communities and throughout the entire xda forum.
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
I don't know how it was before, but i agree with you. Rom teams are popping like mushrooms and the threads keep getting bigger and bigger. For a newbie like mee i needed a couple of days just to read in to everything because of the lack of clearnes.
If the Rom Chefs just worked together and share idea's than this would be just great. Then it's also easier to make different languages. Now it salmost all the time WWE en nothing more because if someone wants to do that, they loose the competition of the fastest release.
Also the topic starts can be clearer. Enormous pictures, lettersize 18, etc.... does not help. I think there are some moderators needed here that restore order and are not Rom Chefs
you are right
i am "just" a junior member, but if you check my account you can see i am here for a "longer" time.
so..
i came here from ARTEMIS threads and i feel the same as you but i did not want to mention it as a "junior member"
Old, well known, clever and cool guys went mad here in this section..
i am not sure why.
it "threatens me" a little bit, makes a pressure on me (sorry for poor english, i hope you can understand me.) i feel a little bit unconfortable. something like that.
This is why i made an own ROM based on STOCKs (thanks for HardSPL, for everybody who dumped the ROMs, etc..) and useing tweakapps.
(i don't want to use names....):
As i can see the guys who are makeing the tweaking apps are ok, but some of the guys who are cooking the ROMs has changed in this section.
anyway: ALL RESPECT for those who make DIAMOND better!!!!
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I don't know how it was before, but i agree with you. Rom teams are popping like mushrooms and the threads keep getting bigger and bigger. For a newbie like mee i needed a couple of days just to read in to everything because of the lack of clearnes.
If the Rom Chefs just worked together and share idea's than this would be just great. Then it's also easier to make different languages. Now it salmost all the time WWE en nothing more because if someone wants to do that, they loose the competition of the fastest release.
Also the topic starts can be clearer. Enormous pictures, lettersize 18, etc.... does not help. I think there are some moderators needed here that restore order and are not Rom Chefs
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I'm afraid my point was not about lack of multilanguage roms ...etc.
I do NOT even want chefs to work together and make a brilliant rom for ME. The beauty of any Free Society is in its competition , diversity and plurality.
My point was something else - well I guess i mentioned it in my post
Yea I agree . I have been on these forums a while and this is a bit messy and I guess very daunting if you are a newbie.
1) Please Sticky the ROM Threads
2) Please sticky the RADIO Threads
3) Please Sticky the SPL Threads
Oh and please, please, please, lets start pulling our resources together . I love to try out all the ROMS and if we share our knowledge aren't we in a better position to get what we al want . The Pefect ROM !!
I know I'll probably get shot down in flames for this and my software dev knowledge you can right on a postage stamp but I do know about winning teams.
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Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
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You are not alone.
I Agree...
absolutely agree.
personally i'd like to see one thread of hard-spls instead of 4 haha.. its quite cluttered..
Hear die well
You got another yes behind your remarks- Said but true.
I started with XDA Trion - Moved to TytnII and was pretty happy with the set directions- Mod support -bashing of newbies (myself included).
The Diamond ROM forum is "different":
- Not enough Mod's to have a closer look on garbage posted (Oliver- Mark...you do have my PM's )
- A lot of Newcomer's on the Diamond- a lot of reduntant threads.
- INDEED, confusing HardSPL - ROM signed vs. non signed messages. Pointed out the (smallest) finger to the Chefs already - But hey, we need them! So let's not complain - Competition is not bad bewtween them.
I called it already the "War of the Chefs" in a thread , so let us benefit of it though....---> TOO MANY Roms with mostly spin-off's of one build
I saw a message on BePe's thread from a guy asking for less ROM's but Final ones with bug's sorted out. For sure, no one is forced to Flash anyway, but it just fill's the thread's with 100.000.000 time WOW -Downloading now ! etc.
I believe that it is our duty as older dweilers to support the chefs in terms of newcomers direction set-up. They cook, we taste, we give feedback - advice and we don't ask for too much, cause it is free.
Anyway, again, I follow your reasoning and do hope first of all to see better Mod support on the Diamond forum. I know the guys are under-manned, so they should maybe look into a few new mod's (my time zone is very favorable to clean dirt between Australia and Birmingham - tip)
Cheerio
I do believe that we are only at the beginning of a Forum which will grow a LOT seeing the possibilites the Diamond can offer.
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agreed. i started with Artemis, then TYTNII, now Diamond... and i have to say the Diamond part of the forums is a whole new beast
too many roms, so little time, are people forgetting that they purchased their devices so they can be used... its turning out that they are just being flashed constantly on a daily basis.
back in the hermes days, when roms were developed, updated roms would generally be released on a monthly basis after feedback was collected from peoples experiences with the current rom.
i still peek over here now and then to see whats up and it is a bit of a mess.
well, if the diamond forum is a mess, the touch pro will even be worse once wm7 beta is avail for it.
btw. im waiting for the touch pro and will be developing roms for it, but not wm6.1 roms as the kernel and OS itself is a pos.
I think the problem is the lack of structure. It's hard to tell which rom is new from which dev group. Everything is mixed up. A couple of rom devs started to put the date in front of a post with a new rom. I think that's the first step in the good direction.
Hmmm....
Listening........!
where are the mods
we need someone to tidy the forum up
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You got another yes behind your remarks- Said but true.
- INDEED, confusing HardSPL - ROM signed vs. non signed messages. Pointed out the (smallest) finger to the Chefs already
I believe that it is our duty as older dweilers to support the chefs in terms of newcomers direction set-up. They cook, we taste, we give feedback -
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haven't we been doing this in Kaiser & other communities ? just look how attentively we (as a little bit more senior members) try to reply and solve brand-new n00bs in other threads.
this thread is different. how can i help a n00b when i myself am too confused what HardSpl to flash ?
this seems to be the beginnig of a commercial rom movement. it's not mentioned directly anywhere, but throught the whole thread I can hear this loud & clear :
We left things complicated , jumbled and unclear so that if you want to know what the whole thing is about , you pay for it.
I tried to seach "How to Hard Reset Diamond" for an hour. couldn't find anything. it's my personal feeling : it's beginning to get commercial.
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personally i'd like to see one thread of hard-spls instead of 4 haha.. its quite cluttered..
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everybody like to see that. But don't you think there's a reason behind this confusion?
Unlike all the other threads, there's an apparent lack of Authoritative Voice in diamond thread.
i coul'dnt agree more, this forum so so messed up.
Even DEV-teams has split an releasing roms as team members of that dev-team, and another member of that team is filling that thread with content...WHUUUTT, i cant explain it properly so hard is it to understand.
I think we need mods to take control and tidy things up a bit.
My vision of the ideal Diamond forum
Sticky:
- SPL's(soft, hard), just one, not a dev and a signed.(al spl's work great so why have many of them)
- Radio's(thread starter sums them up in order of release date and build number)
- Rulez of engagement for everyone who want to post here
Rest:
- For each rom dev team(or single person) one thread with rom info and downloads and the thread title started with a date.
- For questions and such, search first and then ask(NOOBS)
Ill inform some mods here.
gr
If you've ever been in Kaiser's forum then you'll know what's the diff between many versions of SPL. I dont' see why it has to be one SPL only if others make some differences. JockyW2001 knows better. He's been cracking and modifying SPL versions for Kaisers' users. It doesn't mean that Oli is not a good developer. He's the one who started it. Only that now we have our options. It's not their fault if noobs get into trouble trying to understand all of the purposes.Do you know why? Laziness is not tolerable. Lazy to read...Lazy to search...bla..bla..bla...
Yeah! I like this forum clean but not to the extend of " You should not develope any alternative for us! We already have one here!" Now, go to Kaiser Forum and read. Go to Hermes forum and read. Go to other forums and read. This is XDA-Developers Site
Sorry, I said what I want to say.
Cyphol.
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where are the mods
we need someone to tidy the forum up
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No-one has reported that it is needed.
I am willing to do the job, but I do not have a Diamond and will need some input as to what should be deleted, kept, stickied or whatever the case may be.
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No-one has reported that it is needed.
I am willing to do the job, but I do not have a Diamond and will need some input as to what should be deleted, kept, stickied or whatever the case may be.
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Maybe a good topic to discuss "downstairs" first..
Isn't there a dedicated mod for the diamond-forums?
Or aren't there dedicated mods for the forums?
hey guys,
don't know if this is the right place, but because Chefs should read this in first place, the general board seems not the right place either. But this is the same problem with application development either, so developers may read and post too. So not to bother you all furthermore, i'll start right through:
I wonder about
- 50 different ROM development projects (what could be a good sign, if this would not be)
- 48 concurenting projects which do not share know-how (reading statments like: "I will not tell you, what i did to the ROM to archieve...")
- 98 times uncoordinated simultaneous identical work is done(including, not concluding, tools, tweaks, apps, complete roms ...)
Why do we behave like the people because of which we've started this hole thing here? We do keep know-how secret like the builder and oem manufactorers do or did. Instead we should discuss our know how publically and organize our work and efforts as a community and not as individuals. There is enough space for every way of thinkin inside organized structures left (e.g. speed or stability optimized roms, ...) - but what the one project discovers or experiences should be known by the other projects too, that's what is called synergy. We all could profit. Thats the sence of a community. This feeling i miss here a bit to be honest.
And to get concrete i'd suggest further organizational investigations. Some guys did start some already good ideas like a complete guide to dumping, cooking, etc. or a thread where design stuff is listed and linked centrally, or for example the thread where ROM's get tested for speed and space independently. We should take this last idea further and add information to this comparison, about what was done to this ROM's to archieve the projects defined/assigned goals.
This way we could test RoM's concerning to manipulations and would be able to find out what is really happening in our systems (denpenency of [OEM]pakages) and what we can really do to improve a certain goal of tuning.
Furthermore we would not do identical work a thousand times, and so would be able to serve an easy diamond-click-kitchen to the community and last not least to ourself's.
There are not that many intentions possible in RoM development:
Speed
Space
Stability
Gaming
Office
Weird?
... ?
We should now start a thread (and maybe a database) to get our know how organized and start workin together instead of against each other. We (including, not concluding, me ;-) all do owe some guys here in the forums a debt of gratitude for their work and efforts. I'm happy to see that some people are donating, so some guys get a beer payed which is a nice honoration (but no payment). The more i'd be happy if not two developers do the same work simultaneous. Let's get that organized!?
So now i did state some philosophy, followed by some concrete input - now it's your turn to do so ;-)
Best regards
peet
I totally agree.
I do agree with you but this behaviour is found NOT JUST HERE, but in almost all organizations regardless of occupation. Some of us work as a Team more then others but individuality and uniqueness is part of human natures need to be competitive. I really wish we weren't like this.
The purpose for me on this forum is to share my knowledge on to others. I believe most people like to do the same. I think if there are secrets here, then I believe they are kept secrets for branding purposes. To make a name for themselves and to distinguish themselves from the rest.
Based on the post that I have been reading from ROM Threads, I always see chefs thanking each other for sharing. So sharing is happening but maybe not in the most efficient way.
Hmm....hope all these feelings being shared are not taken the wrong way here. Just me thoughts from Psych 101 and my experiences.
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So sharing is happening but maybe not in the most efficient way.
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I totally agree.
seeya
hallo,
i have a little problem to understand your thread. 99% of not-understanding is my english and 1% is your long text without any .. ähhm .. development.
can you say me in one sentence and no more than 10 words what you want?
okokur
I'd like to take the opportunity to say thanks to the majority who do share. A couple of months ago, to flash meant only showing off, and cooking was just for a good meal. With the upgrading, cooking tutorials, wiki and dozens of helpful replies to questions, I'm on my way to cooking my first ROM. Just wish I knew more to contribute something more technical myself. This board has some of the most helpful threads I've found. Thanks once again.
I agree, but there are a couple of problems with this.
1.) some people just don't want to work in a team.
2.) today, those who flash on a daily basis know all (or at least their favorite) Chefs by name, and what their ROM contains. This would be lost.
3.) continuing the previous thought, Chefs would lose motivation, if their name was one of 38 people who made the ROM, in the "credits".
4.) donations. would you spare 5-10$ each chef who contributed? that'll be one pricy Rom
I'm sure there are other problems with this as well, these are just of the top of my head..
but, I do support the idea, the development looks unefficient. At least from a users' point of view..
I've just reread your post, maybe i didn't quite get it. Do you mean something like a thread where all the new knowhows would be listed (though, WIKI is probably better).
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That's exactly what I thought after reading the opening post
A wiki doesnt force anyone to do anything, but those who want to share their knowledge do have one central place to do so. Probably would reduce the amount of 'stupid' questions as well, or am I the only one who doesnt feel like searching through a ****load of topics for answers
I really like this idea
I hope that rom developers starts working together, providing even better roms for the users
that would be great!
yes shure, wiki would be the right place to centralize know-how, the problem with the wiki is that most information doesn't get there. I mean, there is no board around containing this know-how that xda does. but this know-how must be searched first in thousands of threads and millions of posts. and that is hard work,guys.
i just changed from a Mteor to a Diamond and had to invest several days (or have it been weeks?) to get the story in the diamond wiki/boards. one problem is that a lot of outdated information is found and second that information is split that hard. and likewise know-how is split apart.
then i realized most times when i searched for some information, i found hits in kaiser or raphael or somewhere else forum. too there seems to be organized projects workin together in those places.
In Diamond board only few kitchen are found, and not really a lot information about them either. I tested some, but only one was able to build a RoM out of the box. And i remembered Kaiser kitchen and wondered why this is not possible here likewise. While searchin for information i had to realize that here is no kitchen found documented enough to start building my own RoM in a nutshell nor in 3 days, possibly in a week but realistic it'll be in a month maybe. all that just because i wanted my next device to be theftsafe (because providers do everything to keep that thing running as nobody does something [what shure would/and was possible] against stolen devices - no, they do not get excluded from networks (except very few providers) - nor do they get excluded international or worldwide. You may think now, okay then let your device be trackable through services like PiCO. Even that is ratted or hindered by providers, but that is another story.
About the money mentioned above: I was lost in the opinion i would be surfin a community here, which is something where money does not exist really. I am glad that people did donate for a bricked chefs device for example, and i appreciate donations to well doing developers and chefs, but this can't be a point in discussing a communities life or behaviour. But if you are thinkin this way (and i still don't know what you want here then), then please think a step further and realize that: If you offer (maybe as xda-organization or other) a workin kitchen for daus, where contents and trimming can get selected, licence information can get added and that all gets build in a "personalized" RoM, MAN a thousands of people would be even willing to pay a hundred bucks for that. And i bet even on donation basis there would be enough money to share. But back to community.
Some ingenious anonymous teacher did ask me above, what i'd want then, in one sentence. I can tell ya - i want a snicker right now. Thanks for your contribution to the community development. It's that helpful as those "you should use the search" statements of people tired of tellin people same info twice, while not gettin tired of tellin people that they would be tired of them askin tiring questions. Ey guys you really bore, ääh get me tired ;-)
But to get concrete again, i think because of the wide range of device configurations and languages it would be good to develop ONE kitchen together, where it is possible to select a source for building freely (e.g. your own RoM, a Chefs RoM, a providers RoM, or whatever), then give possibilty to change language, select tec. specs like pagefile, etc., select packages to exclude, apps and licences to include, select design patches, CFC and other tweaks, select tweaks and last not least burn your RoM.
That'd be kickin ass guys doesn't it?
I know it would nice to have just one ROM developed, but then again this is reality, people have different preferences. I am sure Chefs share their recipes between themselves.
anyway, u guys may wanna check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420
ervius have done a fine job there.
Kudos.
I completly agreed with your point. Ive seen a lot of ROMS from wanabe cheffs and others that are from great chefs which enhance the OS deaply. Its sad to see comments that not help in the evolution of our devices. Ive not many Mods around, perhaps most of them got their hands on the HD.
On the other hand everyone must be able to post any Cooked ROM they want, but they have to make sure that something is different about othe developements, like Language, or included APPS or particular tweaks.
the way i see it - MOST chefs don't do cooking for public... they cook for their own need and according to what they like - then they share with the public... there's nothing wrong with that... and they don't need to share anything...
and i have noticed they always help you out if you send them a private message.
my two cents
cloudedhopes said:
the way i see it - MOST chefs don't do cooking for public... they cook for their own need and according to what they like - then they share with the public... there's nothing wrong with that... and they don't need to share anything...
and i have noticed they always help you out if you send them a private message.
my two cents
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I used to think like that too, not anymore.
Vise versa.
If you read any thread with a 'popular' ROM, it's easy to see that it's not made for Chefs personal use( perhaps it was originally, but then it becomes a project).
hi all,
first i have to state that i shure do not want to force anybody to nothing. but i see too much people doin identical investigations. therefore i wanted to ask for others opiinion.
somebody sayed, that people might not want to work together wich sounds kind of weird in a community while shure nobody gets forced to share, equal if know-how or work. and somebody said that chefs want to read their name above their work or thdy would loose interest to do something. if those peoples interest or motivation is only to distinguish themselfes it would be sad, but no prob-let them do so on their own.
me would like a ROM without my name, but which is realy coool a lot more.
so first point would be, that all chefs write their know-how down in the wiki, so we can see which way we should start making a universall ROM which can then get tweaked and ppersonalized individually but the base is always the same for all. if the base is really good, all people could profit from that BaseROM!
at the moment i cant see which packages are corresponding to others and cant get removed easily. tooo it would be nice if nataly chef would tell us how he did free that much space, e.g.
maybe some chefs are willing to join, so we start a real universal RoM-Kitchen?
i red ervuis thread only short, but that sounds in the right direction, i'll contact him and ask for support.
the main thing first would be to get real good structures (like ervius started) to build a minimum basicRoM which then can get extended - and we need some more input about flash/nand/rom/pagefile/etc use and manipulation.
lets do this organized and structured not to do the same things a hundred times, and to avoid all those incompatibilities between apps found here (in comination a lot even common apps do interact and the result over both/all is a non working configuration. therefore a "standard" should get found for tweaking, cooking and applications too.
how about that?
hallo,
i have a little problem ...
i asked you what you mean and wish the answer with less than 10 words.
you want so much from other people but you give nothing. if i read your thread at first time, i think about you, that what you write is not that what you really want. i think you have problems with cooking and you hope on an easy way become solution.
one kitchen means, one way to extract, one way to cook ... like a one way with no return. if you have trouble with this one kitchen, nobody can or will help you.
i flashed my first pda three years ago, now i have pda number 4 and i cooked my own roms. the reason, why i dont share it, i used original buyed software by softmaker, coreplayer and sktools with integrated registration-keys/methods. this was orig.software and cant be for sharing.
i dont think, that i can learn this things with one kitchen, with one group, with one project. i have to thank for so much people, who spend nights of nights alone for cooking and sharing.
and if i can help somebody, so i do it. but in xda-developers it was not so easy to help someone, because there so so much people who was faster than me ... much much fuster. god safes the "aloning".
Well, okokur, you have a point, but only to a certain degree. You say about bought licenses, that shouldn't be shared. Fair point, but be consequent, and look further. From the legal point of view, 99% of cooks don't write the code - they only manipulate dumped software - and it's hard to say if this is legal. Sooooo... what I'm pointing at?
That this way or the other, everybody is to him/herself. I only don't understand why some chefs are locking their roms against uncooking - it's like you stole a car, and put an alarm on it against thieves.... Ridiculous.
All cooks should take example from people liek CT or mondilv, who share openly their develpoment. And that's the way. If you are just a bit inclined, you can start cooking yourself. If you are not, you will lazily wait for a rom done for you, and complain about what is in rom, what isn't, etc..
So - my advice/opinion - you will never get cooperation like you wish, because that's human nature. But it would be enough, if cooks would leave their roms open - then people who want to learn, would learn.
I can only agree... for what I can do due to lack of time I always publish the full kitchen source in my/our repository, so the rom isn't just opened but I publish the full kitchen tree with all scripts almost commented and/or other useful stuff
If I can help in other ways please just write down a line
bye,
davide
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Well, okokur, you have a point, but only to a certain degree. You say about bought licenses, that shouldn't be shared. Fair point, but be consequent, and look further. From the legal point of view, 99% of cooks don't write the code - they only manipulate dumped software - and it's hard to say if this is legal. Sooooo... what I'm pointing at?
That this way or the other, everybody is to him/herself. I only don't understand why some chefs are locking their roms against uncooking - it's like you stole a car, and put an alarm on it against thieves.... Ridiculous.
All cooks should take example from people liek CT or mondilv, who share openly their develpoment. And that's the way. If you are just a bit inclined, you can start cooking yourself. If you are not, you will lazily wait for a rom done for you, and complain about what is in rom, what isn't, etc..
So - my advice/opinion - you will never get cooperation like you wish, because that's human nature. But it would be enough, if cooks would leave their roms open - then people who want to learn, would learn.
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you are right.
i think, i can share my rom without buyed software ... but for diamond there was so much roms, thats no needed share a rom without any interesting features.
recooking roms not possible ... for flasher only its enough. for cookers exists a trash-folder on desktop
cooperation like my wish ... i am to old for other oppinnions so i respect other oppinnions for 100%. (its reading like type mismatch error )
if i start with flashing and later i want cooking but that was to much infos and to much rules for cooking ... that i wish ONE KITCHEN with GFX-USING by klicking "KLICK-KLCK" and NO-ERRORS and NO-BLACK-SCREENS ... And if i read this thread the first time, i see me three years ago
i understand peetx for 100%
Hi!
i already change 3 roms within one week. I just want to know that which rom is the best?. because in one rom I had a big benifit of loud speaker when i turn my cellphone face down i autometically turn on, but that rom dont have any shortcuts for programs on home screen. Now i download deepshining X1 the latest one but it doesn't turn on my loud speaker during call when i place it face down. So please anybody advised me which roms is the best in all sense. because it is very hard to install your programs and games again and again. I saw a person have lock screen same like Iphone on tp2. i dont know no how to get that. Anyways please help me with that. Thanks. i will appreciate your effort. Sorry if i am in wrong section.
I have t-mobil TOUCH PRO 2
WINDOWS 6.5
mhassanz said:
Hi!
i already change 3 roms within one week. I just want to know that which rom is the best?. because in one rom I had a big benifit of loud speaker when i turn my cellphone face down i autometically turn on, but that rom dont have any shortcuts for programs on home screen. Now i download deepshining X1 the latest one but it doesn't turn on my loud speaker during call when i place it face down. So please anybody advised me which roms is the best in all sense. because it is very hard to install your programs and games again and again. I saw a person have lock screen same like Iphone on tp2. i dont know no how to get that. Anyways please help me with that. Thanks. i will appreciate your effort. Sorry if i am in wrong section.
I have t-mobil TOUCH PRO 2
WINDOWS 6.5
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I understand what you're asking but "which rom to get" is not appropriate, insulting to the chefs, and very subjective. This thread shall be soon be closed i'm sure, right mods??
But to answer some of your post, the face down speaker phone option you speaking of wanting to do is available as a tweak in almost all roms and is a simple registry tweak (as are all other tweaks) that you can do your self, just search for it and i'm sure you'll find it..
Misunderstanding
I didn't mean it. I dont know which is best like that have almost every option because people here tried almost every rom. I jst tried 3 roms so that is why. Like i installa new rom last night and my camera is not working on that. Unbealiveable
Not again...
There is no such "perfect ROM"!!!
This has been commented many times before.
What is perfect for me could be not for you
Try them all and decide what fits you better
Also as a general idea, enter to ROM section and see what is the one more users have installed, that would give you an idea
orb3000 said:
There is no such "perfect ROM"!!!
This has been commented many times before.
What is perfect for me could be not for you
Try them all and decide what fits you better
Also as a general idea, enter to ROM section and see what is the one more users have installed, that would give you an idea
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This.
You can look at the number of replies in the threads to get an idea which ones you might want to try. Most chefs are also courteous enough to list many of the features and tweaks of their ROMs in the first couple of posts of the thread.
If it helps, some of the more popular ROMs are Valkyrie, the various Energy ROMs, and the various Cell series ROMs.
Perfect roms don't exist. All have pros and cons, its like everyone here is saying, you just have to find one that fits you.
Anyways, on a positive note, the lock application I believe you are looking for is S2U2: http://ac-s2.com/
Take a cooking class
I too, want the PERFECT rom...but for that I will need to learn my way around the kitchen and cook one up myself. Even stock roms have glitches. The difference is that most, if not all the chefs here try to stay on top of glitches. You may need to make some "sacrifices" to what your idea of a perfect rom is, and instead have a really damned good rom. I am still running stock for warranty purposes, as my device is VERY new, that being said, I have spoken with many cooks here as well as many Rhodium "pros", and have come to the conclusion that Energy roms and JoshKoss roms are very good. I cannot tell you from personal experience about these roms, as I stated above, I do know that Chef Josh has been very kind and quick in responding to me over past inquiries.
I wish you luck. Perhaps you should instead consider reading the many extensive tutorials that explain the kitchen. This may be the only way to get YOUR perfect rom. What I may think is perfect you may think is crap. A little scenario...last night I spent HOURS making dinner, I thought it was very good, as did my kids, my husband, however, thought it was just OKAY. Same with the various roms. The chefs cannot please everyone all the time, so perhaps the only sure-fire way to get a perfect rom is to make it yourself.
The perfect ROM - Stock...
jach707 said:
The perfect ROM - Stock...
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ha ha!!
jach707 said:
The perfect ROM - Stock...
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In terms of stability and speed, I have yet to tweak anything to match my stock 6.1.
In terms of eye candy and usefulness, I really like the Energy Leo 6.5 w/ sense 2.5. Most of the features really reduce the time it takes to get to my favorite locations.
Please
Please stop posting in this thread so it falls off, for it is totally pointless.
P.
if you have question so where you can go?
i post that thread because i had a problem with my rom. First of all i recently bought my cellphone then i join this site, and i am learning these stuff like what is rom what is tweak and these kind of stuff. and i post this thread because it was written their discuss Q&A and this type of stuff, but if its hurt someone, i appologize about that and I will not post any thread again here
mhassanz said:
i post that thread because i had a problem with my rom. First of all i recently bought my cellphone then i join this site, and i am learning these stuff like what is rom what is tweak and these kind of stuff. and i post this thread because it was written their discuss Q&A and this type of stuff, but if its hurt someone, i appologize about that and I will not post any thread again here
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So you didn't get the answer you wanted so you are going to take your toys and go home?? No offense but your response sounded like something my 9 year old would throw at me.
Several people answered with rom possibilities, but we also said that the elusive PERFECT ROM is truly a matter of taste. Stable roms are built of off stock 6.1 or 6.5's, and 6.5.3 builds have extra bells and whistles but the consensus seems to be that they are buggier.
I myself stated Energy or JoshKoss roms a few entries above. While I have not tested them myself, the various pages and pages of reviews sound very positive. Others have made other suggestion.
You are chasing unicorns. Period. The only truly perfect rom would be one you build yourself. No chef can cater to your specific wants and needs (unless you PM them and arrange some form of compensation for their time). What I feel would be perfect may be the total opposite of what you or John Doe thinks.
I'm sorry you didn't get the answer you hoped for, and if you choose to not participate in the forums that will be your choice, and frankly, your loss. We have tried to do our best to point you in a direction that may help you. If none of the suggestions fit your needs, then learn to cook your own rom. I understand that it can be tedious to read the many pages associated with the various cooked roms, but I have managed to do that with several of them, you can too. It is the only way you will learn what works and what doesn't. We will guide you, but we won't do the work for you.
I apologize if this seems rude, but it has become quite frustrating to see yet another "perfect rom" thread.
Perfect ROM
Near as I can figure, the perfect ROM is the Apple iphone. Or at least it seems to me that post after post after post is users trying to make Windows Mobile, Look, Act, Feel, Sound like an iphone.
As a not so bright end user of many of the forum genius's works and yet, also devoted fan of Windows Mobile since early Ipaq days, I've found Energy Phoenix to be my personal favorite for hands on simplicity, ease of use and having all the basic features of my TILT 2 working. Curiously before I found that you could even have a custom ROM, I was using as a desktop background one of the pics he uses as his ROM background defaults. So that's how I was attracted to trying it. Pretty retarded huh?
I also use SBP Mobile Shell and have said to **** with POOPFLO3D. I swear I'd like to find the HTC guy who came up with that one and womp em a good one.
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Near as I can figure, the perfect ROM is the Apple iphone.
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iPhone's OS is the perfect "ROM" for an idiot that barely knows how to turn on his/her phone.
Though I'm perpetuating this thread moving to the top of the topic, can one of the mods please close this thread. PLEASE...
CLOSE please!
Just another "what is the best ROM" thread. PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD.