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Differences between the two WM6 Versions

Can anybody point out the differences between the two WM6 versions released here?
Which one is the better version?

As has been stated many times before, there are a lot of differences, the best way to find out which is better is to either:
1. troll through both threads of lvsw and mun's ROMs and look for the different bugs and changes
2. Download both, try them both, see which one suits you best.
I'd recommend option 2

Just cosmetique differents, but i prefer the second option by mun

isnt a poll a bit distasteful? we're supposed to be supporting all the ROM developers, not pointing at one as the best.
All the newbies will jump on this thread, see which one is voted best and ignore the one with less votes, which is nothing short of demoralising.
I've tried both ROMs and At the moment I'm using Mun's, but thats not to say lvsw's ROM isnt good, I've used that too.
Personally I'm not going to vote on this and I hope others do the same.
If people want to know which is better, let them try both ROMs and see for themselves.

Antimus said:
isnt a poll a bit distasteful? we're supposed to be supporting all the ROM developers, not pointing at one as the best.
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Absolutely right, we shouldn't want to point to the best rom 'cause that is different for evereyone. But the question here is: 'which ROM do you use' which is something different then 'which ROM do you think is best'. I doubt that everyone will see that difference though, so in the end your probably right that we should not hold polls like this. Unless the chefs ask for 'm of course

I'm just glad there are two!

Which WM6-Rom is the Best

Which WM6-Rom is the best for the XDA-Trion??
Thanks for your Help

...let it begin
DING DING DING

Hurray, another newbie jumps in without doing his research.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280506
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283336
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1547390
Just as a few examples of all the other people who asked the same sort of question.
The simple answer? The best ROM is the one that you like best. There's no right answer. But make sure you do your research first - if you go flashing them without doing HardSPL, then you might end up with a nice new shiny paperweight.
There's a list of some of the ROMs at the wiki, where your journey should have begun. There's also some excellent guides over at MrVanx's site.
(In another note... when are people going to do their research? :-/)
Be thankful I wrote this before everyone else tears your head off...

"The simple answer? The best ROM is the one that you like best."
What if this guy is evil and considers the best ROM to be the one that you like the least?

for me i cant sem to decide. Ive had em all, well a lot of of em anyway. I keep switching back and forth. But yeah definately read read read. Some do run a bit faster than other been when it comes down to it, its gonna be personal liking. Good luck

i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too

drutort said:
i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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Likes/dislikes, reviews, and comparisons for each ROM can be found in the threads dedicated to those ROMs. Simply read what every who has replied has to say about it.

yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?

I prefer vp3G's ROMs.

drutort said:
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
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A "contest" is unnecessary, and a list of suggestions/ideas would be just as hard to wade through.
As the Hermes is nearing the end of its development cycle, this will be a moot point soon. But if you want to put something together, the best idea would be a review website. Instead of saying which is better, just list all of the features that each ROM has, along with screenshots and metrics on battery life and speed. Then people can decide on their own which is better.

vp3g's rom is the best.. but thats cause im partial to ATT

drutort said:
i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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So when are you going to get started on this then? Please point us to the link when you are done.
Cheers
WB

drutort said:
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
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Yes, it is slow. But flashing a Hermes ROM is not something you rush. Always do your homework.
I disagree on the unreliable part, however. Its like when software is developed, they dont have ONE person test it, because bugs, etc. can be overlooked easily. They have MANY testers. The replies to the threads are from the, if you will, testers of the ROM. They report good and bad. I don't know any better way, besides trying for yourself. I personally research tho.

personal opinion either of shamanix or schaps roms have been stable and worked for me pretty well

steve0020 said:
Which WM6-Rom is the best for the XDA-Trion??
Thanks for your Help
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Link below is for your Triton. This threat is for Hermes only.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
My personal opinion for Hermes is Kin0Kin and Schaps' Rom. These ROMs are fast and stable.

Best ROM for Blackstone

What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
What use you ?

I guess that depends very much on what you're looking for. Until you decide what it is you want, nobody is EVER going to give you the right answer.
For me, the best ROM is the one my device came with..it's stable and works. I have never felt the need to flash a new one, esp since just about every ROM I've ever read about has a problem in one way or another (even if it is fixed the next day)
Actually, I have to say that I'm always disappointed by the number of ROMS that come out....it seems that there's new ones almost every day. I appreicate that these are released to allow people to test and report back, but surely they should be restricted to a handful of beta testers perhaps?
ok..back in my box now...apologies

p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
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The one that works best for you and best suits your individual needs.

if you dont want this thread closing i suggest you put a list of things you need require want and ask what meets your requirements. you have been warned!!!

Suggestion
Hi
May I respectfully suggest you have a trawl through the Blackstone Rom threads and see what you like and as mentioned above what best suits you. Most of the topics have a change log or features log and screenshots to help you make your mind up.
Then read the Wiki to gather all the info needed to actually start changing to the ROM you find is best for you.
Regards

p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
What use you ?
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I use Onkolog's and I'm very satisfied. In terms of speed it does not compare with the stock ROM, much faster. Very stable and quite Spartan, the way I like it. Hope this helps a bit more than most of the posts I've seen in this thread.

It depends on what you want.
Do you want a light, fast & probably stable ROM?
Or a heavy ROM with many programs on it?
Or between that?
I use dutty's 2.3 at the moment, but I don't use TF3D.
Take a look at what ROM's you want.
PS: the manila 3 is nice, so pick one with manila 3 and check out your new TF3D Look

In my case, after testing several realeased roms, I am using Dutty's 2.1. It is very satisfactory. I tried versions 2.2 and 2.3 but I don't particularly like the new start menu (I have a lot of programs installed and it doesn't suit my needs).
Try any of the versions (v2.xx) available at dutty's website. Any of them will amaze your relatives and friends.

I'm just surprised no MOD closed this thread!!
This is a common question with no answer as everyone is different so obviously everyones likes & dislikes will be different so no point asking which rom is better as what you may like, the next person won't!
Go into each rom thread, read up on them and flash whichever one appeals most to you. If you aren't happy, flash another!!
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!

Go into each rom thread, read up on them and flash whichever one appeals most to you. If you aren't happy, flash another!!
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!
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agrreee with yo Fallen Spartan, bravo!!
today it's perfect but tomorrow it's not

Fallen Spartan said:
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!
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agree... at moment i´m using duttys v2.3... but also miri´s v5 is very nice...

What, no deleting threads?
I asked a similar question to this about 2 months ago, having just bought a Blackstone, and got a short, sharp message about searching instead of trying to start a conversation and engage people. The thread got deleted a few minutes later.
Glad this didn't happen to you, good luck choosing a ROM. People on this forum are very helpful and talented, but can be incredibly rude at times.

krs360 said:
I asked a similar question to this about 2 months ago, having just bought a Blackstone, and got a short, sharp message about searching instead of trying to start a conversation and engage people. The thread got deleted a few minutes later.
Glad this didn't happen to you, good luck choosing a ROM. People on this forum are very helpful and talented, but can be incredibly rude at times.
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I understand your comment, but if I can defend a few people on this site. Yes, some are rude and they generally get banned due to complaints....and rightly so. But others may have come across as rude but are infact actually good natured people who are just annoyed at getting asked the same questions day in.
As you said you asked the same question a few months ago and I can guarantee this same question has been asked dozens of other times. This is why we always ask people to read threads before posting new ones, and at the top of each forum included in the rules etc it also states this.
I try and be as helpful when I can and answer every query to the best of my knowledge, but I've also lost my cool once or twice.
My previous post in this thread is basically as much as anyone can offer on this subject.
Anyway, thats my two cents on the subject!!

Fallen Spartan said:
I understand your comment, but if I can defend a few people on this site. Yes, some are rude and they generally get banned due to complaints....and rightly so. But others may have come across as rude but are infact actually good natured people who are just annoyed at getting asked the same questions day in.
As you said you asked the same question a few months ago and I can guarantee this same question has been asked dozens of other times. This is why we always ask people to read threads before posting new ones, and at the top of each forum included in the rules etc it also states this.
I try and be as helpful when I can and answer every query to the best of my knowledge, but I've also lost my cool once or twice.
My previous post in this thread is basically as much as anyone can offer on this subject.
Anyway, thats my two cents on the subject!!
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Very well said. a) I too am surprised this didn't get closed. b) I agree, I don't think it's as much as people being rude but it gets annoying when the same questions are asked without using the search button.
and c) each ROM IS different. I've installed about a dozen different ROMs on my Blackstone and each one had their issues and/or benefits.
For the most part, I followed Dutty's ROMs but 2-3 weeks ago, I tried David's ROMs and though they're both great, I actually found an older ROM from David that I extremely liked when I disabled 3FTD. My phone is stable, extremely fast and has what I need in it.
It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. After 3 years of upgrading ROM's (started back with a Razr) I can finally say I'm happy with the my current ROM and have no desire to upgrade.
So, start modding and good luck.
Mark

"It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. "
Sound advice by Mark. I personally have tried most roms available as well - currently using Dutty 2.4 quite happy with it, I found the new Dutty version release slighty slower then the 2.4.

orangecrush said:
It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. After 3 years of upgrading ROM's (started back with a Razr) I can finally say I'm happy with the my current ROM and have no desire to upgrade.
So, start modding and good luck.
Mark
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Agreed with riz157. Sound advice
But I think all that can be said on this has been! Could a MOD close this thread.
Cheers

HTC Blackstone Roms
i am still searching for the best one...

mcfly444 said:
i am still searching for the best one...
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Try Duttys HD Leo Holy Grail R0. I'm sure you will like it..
The only thing that misses in this beautiful rom is the languagepack

p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
What use you ?
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Hello,the legal official rom . All cooked roms are full of bugs ...

1.56 stock rom

[Q] What ROM To Use?

I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?

i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for

Moved to Q&A as not development

bamboo12 said:
you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.

DroidBois said:
I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide

^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to

i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...

anotherdroid said:
i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?

In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff

I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all

Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?

The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
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Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM

faraon83 said:
Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
Sent from my HTC Desire

He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.

[Q] Best stock ROM

Hi,
I love my M8 but i love stock Android too. Some time ago i tested a few stock roms but they all had battery drain and things like that.
Is there currently a GOOD stock rom? Without sense etc?
Regards,
Dennis

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Hi,
I love my M8 but i love stock Android too. Some time ago i tested a few stock roms but they all had battery drain and things like that.
Is there currently a GOOD stock rom? Without sense etc?
Regards,
Dennis
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Stock(Sense) without Sense?
You mean "vanilla" Android like on the Google Play Editions? Then you should look for a GPE ROM, like Skydragon some screenshots .
If not then I can't help, I only flashed one ROM and that was Viper. I just had to reply to figure out what you mean "Stock" (On HTC that includes Sense) yet it should not have Sense :cyclops:

BerndM14 said:
Stock(Sense) without Sense?
You mean "vanilla" Android like on the Google Play Editions? Then you should look for a GPE ROM, like Skydragon some screenshots .
If not then I can't help, I only flashed one ROM and that was Viper. I just had to reply to figure out what you mean "Stock" (On HTC that includes Sense) yet it should not have Sense :cyclops:
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Yeah i mean vanilla... i'm sorry

Yes, some folks like to call AOSP "stock". Altough "stock" is rather ambiguous as this phone (at least the huge majority of its variants) comes "stock" from the factory with Sense.
There is not such thing as "best" ROM, and such questions (and anything similar like "favorite", "best performance", "recommended" etc.) are discouraged here. What is "best" depends a lot on your own personal preferences, and things like battery drain are going to vary drastically depending on how you use your phone. So any such recommendations would like have little actual value.
And any such threads would also be an insult to the devs that take their own free time to create these ROMs. If the devs posted them here, they must have considered them worthy of flashing; and its an insult to imply otherwise (as recommending one over another inadvertently does).
Just browse and look through the ROMs, pick one or a couple, and flash away and try them for yourself.

Moderator Information,
Under new forum rules, we now allow best rom threads. But we will be keeping an eye on these threads.
Many thanks,
Ghost
Forum Moderator

redpoint73 said:
Yes, some folks like to call AOSP "stock". Altough "stock" is rather ambiguous as this phone (at least the huge majority of its variants) comes "stock" from the factory with Sense.
There is not such thing as "best" ROM, and such questions (and anything similar like "favorite", "best performance", "recommended" etc.) are discouraged here. What is "best" depends a lot on your own personal preferences, and things like battery drain are going to vary drastically depending on how you use your phone. So any such recommendations would like have little actual value.
And any such threads would also be an insult to the devs that take their own free time to create these ROMs. If the devs posted them here, they must have considered them worthy of flashing; and its an insult to imply otherwise (as recommending one over another inadvertently does).
Just browse and look through the ROMs, pick one or a couple, and flash away and try them for yourself.
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I think it's awesome that we can do some comparisons between ROMs now. Competition never hurt anyone, except maybe Apple but that's another story.
How does it go again? our critics are our friends, they show us our faults...
All the devs on here do an awesome job with whatever it is that they're doing, no reason any of them can't learn from the mistakes/successes of other devs and become even more great! But that's something that I always lived by anyways. I criticize a lot but that's fine, I'm my own biggest critic too, work, home doesn't matter. :good:

For me it's CleanRom for sure. Scott is very helpful and issues and requests are addressed very quickly. I have run it for years of numerous devices. Always fast, excellent battery, and no feature loss.

Might also have a look into Elix-R ROM, apparently it was quite good on Nexus 5 and the developer brought it to M8 recently, so also something to look into...
[ROM] Elix-R | V1.2.1 TETRA | 10/02| Fast | Elegant | Simple |
There's so many choices out there. I personally can't state which is better than which, I never ran any of them so =oP
HTC One M8 Android Development

In that case, sinless is best. In my opinion lol.
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