Guys i have held back for long , need your honest opinion about the latest update,so far everywhere i see , there a lot of compliants about bugs in general , wanted to know is it really worth to update to lollipop my major concern is battery,
also is it possible to take the backup of current ROM with its exact state if so how do i do that
I personally used lollipop for a month after it came out and well I was not satisfied with it. The html5 video player will buffer on the best of connections, I am assuming a chipset issue there. I flashed all custom ROMs available for the ROM to get a fix for the issue but could not. Battery life is decent but is quite a lot better in kitkat especially with proper closed modules to optimize it. I would not recommend it and no you can't take a back up of your kitkat ROM to get back to it from lollipop. Although you can go back to kitkat via a method displayed on the xda forums. This is just my view tho. Other users might have some other experiences.
just wondering if anyone still uses KK on the tab or have you moved up to LP 5.0 or 5.1 ...
Monster212 said:
just wondering if anyone still uses KK on the tab or have you moved up to LP 5.0 or 5.1 ...
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I don't own tab but personally I think lollipop is a failed OS. Too bad for battery life although overall performance is better.
Back to kitkat N9005 Tweaked3.95 + LK3.17
My T800 ran for 260 days on kitkat without needing to be rebooted or tuned off even once now that is stability and i used it every day, when i did turn it off it was just to recalibrate the battery.
Too many reported problems with lollipop from less battery life, to lines on the screen, touchscreen problem, flash led problems, too much white in the stock apps and setting menu, stupid on an oled display.
I rooted my T800 and fixed the microsd problem, added AC3 support to the stock video player so why do i need kitkat, not saying i will not upgrade in the future to android m.
John.
I'm in the process of downgrade right now!
Ye i just flashed lollipop rom yesterday and now im rolling back to kk, i dont know if samsung is just trolling or what. you get a tiny status bar & notif panel then a blown up recent app manager, wtf? Plus no official xposed, and everything is just white & sky blue :/
A lot of people on SamMobile are saying that lollipop is a wasted update as it offers nothing new, and introduces a load of problems, also they are not happy at the way Samsung releases the updates.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/16/samsungs-software-update-policy-is-seriously-messed-up/
John.
For now, I believe they'll keep releasing 5.0 for older devices, and 5.1 for new ones.
Older models will always be one step behind, it's called marketing and forcing "impatient customers" to upgrade their device.
Although I notice these T700 and T800 5.0 versions keep getting patched with new updates and more stability, I believe we'll only get 5.1 when Android M is released for newer devices.
Then after 1, 2, or 3 years from release date and depending on each device, they are forgotten by the manufacturer and software updates are stopped, hoping you'll buy again a newer model, regardless of your device purchase date and condition.
And this in a way, explains why the XDA community is strong.
I finished downgrading. Tablet runs smoother, I can change many things in Xposed and generally, it just works.
Yeah, I choked on the lollipop, but i loved the chocolaty goodness of kitkat, stay on kitkat and don't be a sucker.
John.
hurdlejade said:
I finished downgrading. Tablet runs smoother, I can change many things in Xposed and generally, it just works.
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In my opinion, I'm on LP because I find it much smoother than KK.
The newer kernel and drivers on lollipop are the main reasons for better performance, which is easily seen in Antutu scores.
The only advantages I find in KK is that it's less buggy and ram leak is better.
When you say performance are you talking about gaming? , if so a lot of people don't game or only use simple games that don't require a great deal of system performance.
I don't game, and i have not seen any laginess on kitkat, i had it running 260 days without any problems i did not reset or shut-down a single time.
John.
pacc said:
In my opinion, I'm on LP because I find it much smoother than KK.
The newer kernel and drivers on lollipop are the main reasons for better performance, which is easily seen in Antutu scores.
The only advantages I find in KK is that it's less buggy and ram leak is better.
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With LP you do need to reboot now and then due to ram leak problem.
Let's say LP is faster than KK at the beginning and after a few days it crawls due to ram leak, until you reboot and it's pristine again for the next days.
To be honest, while my initial reactions to Lollipop on both my TAB S and my Nexus 5 was less than favorable, after finding the right alternate ROMs I am very happy. Great performance (I don't game), great battery life, theming that allows me to black out the white menus and I'm very happy on both my devices. Would I be happy on stock? I don't know, and I understand not everyone wants to flash alternate ROMs. What I do think is that Lollipop takes a while to settle in and make sure you don't have an app that is incompatible (Samsung messed with ART). If you dive into it for only a couple of days, and you are really used to KitKat, of course you will want to go back. After using Lollipop for a while now, I would never go back.
Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anything to folks who disagree.
It`s great if you can tune lollipop the way you want, but most people cannot do this, and get stuck on a buggy stock rom until the next official update, which might never arrive, thank-you Samsung.
John.
Hookmt said:
To be honest, while my initial reactions to Lollipop on both my TAB S and my Nexus 5 was less than favorable, after finding the right alternate ROMs I am very happy. Great performance (I don't game), great battery life, theming that allows me to black out the white menus and I'm very happy on both my devices. Would I be happy on stock? I don't know, and I understand not everyone wants to flash alternate ROMs. What I do think is that Lollipop takes a while to settle in and make sure you don't have an app that is incompatible (Samsung messed with ART). If you dive into it for only a couple of days, and you are really used to KitKat, of course you will want to go back. After using Lollipop for a while now, I would never go back.
Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anything to folks who disagree.
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Tend to agree. At first I wasn't keen on lollipop, but after using for a while and a little tweaking its running just fine. Dont know what this ram leak thing is all about as I've seen nothing of it. I would have thought, whatever that was, almost all manufacturers would have patched it by now including Samsung.
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Tend to agree. At first I wasn't keen on lollipop, but after using for a while and a little tweaking its running just fine. Dont know what this ram leak thing is all about as I've seen nothing of it. I would have thought, whatever that was, almost all manufacturers would have patched it by now including Samsung.
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I have lolipop on three devices Nexus 5&10 (5.1.1) and a Tab S 10.5 (5.0.2). Right from the beginning both tablets have been rock solid with a small but noticable bump in speed. On the other hand my Nexus 5 lost its rock solid kitkat stability and no matter what I do, short of re-flashing Kitkat, I cannot seem to fix it.
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Did you do an reset before or after updating to lollipop, as you say you have had no problems.
John.
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I have lolipop on three devices Nexus 5&10 (5.1.1) and a Tab S 10.5 (5.0.2). Right from the beginning both tablets have been rock solid with a small but noticable bump in speed. On the other hand my Nexus 5 lost its rock solid kitkat stability and no matter what I do, short of re-flashing Kitkat, I cannot seem to fix it.
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Did you do an reset before or after updating to lollipop, as you say you have had no problems.
John.
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Assuming you are asking about my Tab S experience, I used the guide in this forum to root without tripping Knox. I had to downgrade to stock Kitkat then root then upgrade to stock Lollipop. As soon as you downgrade using Odin you must do a factory reset in stock recovery, so yes I reset and always after the firmware change. In fact I've done the whole process several times as I've tried theming and every time I changed framework-res.apk it borked the UI and I need to do the whole process again.
At this time I've sworn off changing framework-res.apk. It is not a total write off as Flashfire back ups recover everything like a nadroid backup. Its weakness is that if you cannot start the app you can not do a restore. All that due to not wanting to loose my warranty on a two month old device so cannot flash a custom recovery like TWRP.
I did successfully flash from Lollipop B0E2 to B0E3 (boot, recover, system images) using Flashfire. That upgrade did not require a factory reset. In fact my user data, apps, root (SuperSU) and settings remained intact. All I need to do was re-flash any SuperSU policies I had previously installed along with any apps I installed in /system such as Viper4Android.
Specifically the upgrade and resulting experience was almost identical to upgrading Lollipop on my Nexus devices (5.0 through to 5.1.1), which is very easy and never required a factory reset. Although I usually clear the cache/dalvik just to be safe.
So, I suppose that many of you have heard of the infamous Nougat battery drain. I've been experiencing it ever since I upgraded to 7.0. It's not necessarily a big problem, since I can still get through a normal, full day of use.. but it's still very noticeable. From the more than 4 hours of SoT I used to get, I can now barely get more than two, normally even lower. I have no idea what the problem is, I've tried everything. And since I'm going to go on a trip soon, I'm really going to need a good battery life.
So, I was thinking about rolling it back to Marshmallow. I'm S-OFF, so I'll use a RUU.zip. Before doing that however, I would love to hear some opinions. Has anyone else given up on Nougat? Anyone who experienced the Nougat drain? And is the battery indeed better on MM?
We're on an outdated security patch anyway, July 2017 and we're already in October, but would returning to whatever security patch the last MM version had be dangerous?
Thanks in advance.
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So, I suppose that many of you have heard of the infamous Nougat battery drain. I've been experiencing it ever since I upgraded to 7.0. It's not necessarily a big problem, since I can still get through a normal, full day of use.. but it's still very noticeable. From the more than 4 hours of SoT I used to get, I can now barely get more than two, normally even lower. I have no idea what the problem is, I've tried everything. And since I'm going to go on a trip soon, I'm really going to need a good battery life.
So, I was thinking about rolling it back to Marshmallow. I'm S-OFF, so I'll use a RUU.zip. Before doing that however, I would love to hear some opinions. Has anyone else given up on Nougat? Anyone who experienced the Nougat drain? And is the battery indeed better on MM?
We're on an outdated security patch anyway, July 2017 and we're already in October, but would returning to whatever security patch the last MM version had be dangerous?
Thanks in advance.
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I have been on U.S Unlocked nougat since the initial release and I have no such problem. Battery ain't what it used to be but I always hit 4 hours sot.
You could try flashing a Sense-based custom rom like Viper or Leedroid first to see if there is an improvement.
Regarding security, based on all the people *****ing in the Updates thread I'm pretty sure your phone will immediately contract the Ebola virus after downgrading to MM. Either that, or you're probably fine with the "old" security patches on MM. Your choice to try though.
S-OFF, flash MM RUU
I'm using Note 5, Should I updrage to 9.5.13 from 9.5.6 ? How about battery ? Is that bug? Sorry for my english
No bug for me. Seems good for now.
Yeah id upgrade if I was you.
At the very least the hotspot bug is gone and no negative impacts seen since I upgraded.
It's update, not upgrade. I see both terms confused by a lot of people and it really bothers me. Upgrade is usually related to hardware changes (getting a new phone, adding more RAM or buying a new GPU to your PC..etc)
And yes, you should update, they fixed a lot of the issues and battery life is pretty much the same as before.