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Forget about official update for our OGP..

It was a bit frustated when waiting for major update from LG for our lovely G Pro. Although using stock rom is enough, but we need more to optimise the device.
I have been using some kitkat custom roms and decided to use one of the for day to day use. My impression so far is that I wil not go back to stock unless big problem happen to my phone (i.e. when I need to go to service center ?).
So, currently I just waiting for nightly updates or other kitkat new custom rom coming ☺
How about you, guys?
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I got an update notification on my stock rooted phone this morning... Still nervous about installing it.
I like AOSP roms, but I find they favor having the latest android base over working out all of the bugs. Which in turn means extra features, but lack stability. I usually find the best Roms for a phone (AOSP or stock mod) match the android base of the stock.
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There are not too much options for Korean Variant F240x so unless there comes some stable custom rom had to stick with the stock.

I'm using CM 11 as it has DSP working and most custom ROMs do not.
I still wish LG would release an update for us.

The only problem I have with the ASOP and CM based roms is stability. Some have good battery life, some are feature packed, some have working navigation, some have a hard time locking or issues with sound.
I have yet to find one that just works in all aspects. That's what keeps me going back to stock. Even the G2 V5 had issues for me with signal reception (yes I flashed my modem again) and wifi transfer speeds. The only one that has it all working perfectly is the stock 4.1.2.
I wish we had more customization on that base E980 stock rom kernel tweaks and things like that, but I understand the allure of 4.4 roms versus spending dev time on an outdated build. For me though, having a phone that works consistently is more important. That's not to say there is anything wrong with the ASOP and CM roms, I just haven't found one that just works. Especially when it comes to GPS.
I see that there is the 4.2.2 update from China and I hope a Dev or 2 takes a look at that, or the new Gx that is very similar to the G Pro in hardware. Hopefully there is an option to port that to our G Pro. We'll see. For now, I still enjoy my G Pro and really have no desire to purchase anything else on the market right now.
-Logic

ackliph said:
I got an update notification on my stock rooted phone this morning... Still nervous about installing it.
I like AOSP roms, but I find they favor having the latest android base over working out all of the bugs. Which in turn means extra features, but lack stability. I usually find the best Roms for a phone (AOSP or stock mod) match the android base of the stock.
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I got a CWM bootloop......

Oh yeah, another thing I got last time was even I have unrooted (and rooted) stock rom, I could not get OTA update, while my friend got that.
So, still keep using the custom rom which has less bug.
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I got a CWM bootloop......
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Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.

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Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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I just clicked it so it'd go away. It kept coming back after rebooting.....nice going guy I thought.....no the pleasure of fixing it.......ugghh
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visionlogic said:
Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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is it an auto update? I'm on slimbean 4.3. is there a thread about this to disable anything to avoid the update coming through?

I have been running the cm nightlys now for several days it has proven quite stable does a great job multitasking and running game apps. for battery life i downloaded no-frills cpu control and set the cpu to interactive. also has an option to apply on boot so when rebooting the phone it does not return to on demand. Getting 8 to 12 hrs battery life (6 with heavy gaming) and battery recharges in 2 to 4 hrs depending on which charger i use stock or aftermarket. I am very happy with cm11 at this point and been getting daily updates adding features and fixing issues. I also have run the halo harmony rom which works very well but battery life is short 4 to 6 hours heavy gaming have drained battery in 3hrs but halo interface is nice. As far as stock lg filled this thing with way to much bloat ware and even with it all disabled phone is still slower then what it is capable of being. I love they way this device runs on kit kat and will continue to run the cm nightys until they release a stable.
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You should also know no matter which Kit Kat rom you are running you will need to do this from your dialer go to setting and select vibrate on call waiting. None of the roms have a working call waiting ringer yet but the vibrate function does work but must be selected manually after installing rom.

I have been plagued with the muffled in-call mic problem on any AOSP/CM based ROM. That has been the driving factor for staying on stock-based.

argolfermd said:
I have been plagued with the muffled in-call mic problem on any AOSP/CM based ROM. That has been the driving factor for staying on stock-based.
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I just also realised that what you mentioned is true. What happened to me is not all calling, but some were not a problem. I think an AOSP based rom has better in-call mic than CM, CMIIW.
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ahidayat said:
I just also realised that what you mentioned is true. What happened to me is not all calling, but some were not a problem. I think an AOSP based rom has better in-call mic than CM, CMIIW.
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About a week ago cm fixed mic and headset issues they also have dsp manager fully working

Yup, thank you. I am using official CM11 now, and voice call is fixed.
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@overboard1978
Thanks for this update.
I was searching high and low to see if the phone mic issue had been resolved. Many others have experienced it but nobody ever followed up.
This was the one issue that was holding this phone back (no matter what ROM). I'm told that the mic volume is useable - with a little bit of cutting in and out. Not 100% perfect yet, but useable.

Well, I already knew the device likely wasn't going to be getting an upgrade. I bought it as a temporary device. I bought a Note III last week, and am in the process of selling my G Pro.
I do miss some features from it, mostly the 5x5 home screen grid and the actually usable universal remote app built-in, but the S-Pen features outweigh them.

visionlogic said:
Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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I had to use LG FlashTools after a freegee fiasco switching from TWRP to CWM, and ended up on stock 10k. Completely stock, no custom recovery, just 4.1.2 and rooted. If you attempt to install the update already rooted WITHOUT a custom recovery it just gives some message about root detected and reboots back normally.

raduque said:
Well, I already knew the device likely wasn't going to be getting an upgrade. I bought it as a temporary device. I bought a Note III last week, and am in the process of selling my G Pro.
I do miss some features from it, mostly the 5x5 home screen grid and the actually usable universal remote app built-in, but the S-Pen features outweigh them.
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I prefer LG rigth now before Samsung again LG NEED PUT THE DAMN ASS on earth and bring updates on time then you will see Samsung crying.
S4 sucks
S3 blow S4 on any day (yes i know 2 cores vs 4 cores but S3 STILL the phone most used in the world)
Note 3=Note 2 updated what a F*** joke samsung
Samsung not will rule the smartphone world with 10GB of pure TW crap in each phone they sell...
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Mervingio said:
I prefer LG rigth now before Samsung again LG NEED PUT THE DAMN ASS on earth and bring updates on time then you will see Samsung crying.
S4 sucks
S3 blow S4 on any day (yes i know 2 cores vs 4 cores but S3 STILL the phone most used in the world)
Note 3=Note 2 updated what a F*** joke samsung
Samsung not will rule the smartphone world with 10GB of pure TW crap in each phone they sell...
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Settle down, Beavis.
Samsung pretty much does rule the Android smartphone world, despite (or maybe because of) "10gb(wrong) of pure TW crap(also wrong)"

[Q] 4.3 performance and battery life

I installed 4.3 last week which I now bitterly regret:
- memory footprint has almost doubled
- battery life has almost halved
- most applications no longer launch immediately, there is a black screen or a hang for several seconds before the apps actually launch
Is that to be expected or is there anything that can be done?
By the looks of it, Samsung may have expedited my move to another manufacturer.

LuckyLinUK said:
I installed 4.3 last week which I now bitterly regret:
- memory footprint has almost doubled
- battery life has almost halved
- most applications no longer launch immediately, there is a black screen or a hang for several seconds before the apps actually launch
Is that to be expected or is there anything that can be done?
By the looks of it, Samsung may have expedited my move to another manufacturer.
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Be helpful if you further identified what ROM and build number you use.
Also do u have any mods installed e.g. Note 3 app package?
Don't let available RAM discourage you, Android is meant to use what's available to offer an improved user experience.
Overall, for me the upgrade to 4.3 from 4.1 is a large improvement. Assuming you're on stock 4.3 try a custom ROM. Try them all. That will keep you busy for a while

tweeny80 said:
Be helpful if you further identified what ROM and build number you use.
Also do u have any mods installed e.g. Note 3 app package?
Don't let available RAM discourage you, Android is meant to use what's available to offer an improved user experience.
Overall, for me the upgrade to 4.3 from 4.1 is a large improvement. Assuming you're on stock 4.3 try a custom ROM. Try them all. That will keep you busy for a while
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I use stock, never rooted and updated via OTA. No mods and I did not install anything new after the update. The reason I am concerned about the memory footprint is that it correlates with the performance - it's never great, but anything beyond 1.5Gb and it almost becomes unusable.
While I appreciate the advice, I don't want to go down the route of a custom rom, it should work fine with what the manufacturer provides who does not provide a downgrade option.
I anticipated that Samsung would bungle this too, that's why I could kick myself for installing this.

LuckyLinUK said:
I use stock, never rooted and updated via OTA. No mods and I did not install anything new after the update. The reason I am concerned about the memory footprint is that it correlates with the performance - it's never great, but anything beyond 1.5Gb and it almost becomes unusable.
While I appreciate the advice, I don't want to go down the route of a custom rom, it should work fine with what the manufacturer provides who does not provide a downgrade option.
I anticipated that Samsung would bungle this too, that's why I could kick myself for installing this.
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Yup, I'm picking up what you're laying down...
Keep in mind Samsung released sub par 4.3 builds to many users. Their later releases were vastly improved. Check your build number. Be aware that by rooting you can install a stock Rom that is the latest revision.
I get your stance on stock but given the reality, aren't you best served to take matters into your own hands?
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tweeny80 said:
Yup, I'm picking up what you're laying down...
Keep in mind Samsung released sub par 4.3 builds to many users. Their later releases were vastly improved. Check your build number. Be aware that by rooting you can install a stock Rom that is the latest revision.
I get your stance on stock but given the reality, aren't you best served to take matters into your own hands?
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Cheers.
Well, OTA tells me that the latest update is installed so I presume that all their builds are bungled. I don't wish to void the warranty, or worse, brick the device with a custom ROM setup.
Installing and testing different roms until you find one that works is time consuming and I just want a working phone.
But you are right about taking matters into my own hands, I am going to the phone store tomorrow and check out what would suit me, Nexus perhaps or a Lumina.
As far as I am concerned, that was the first and last Samsung phone I have bought.

LuckyLinUK said:
Cheers.
Well, OTA tells me that the latest update is installed so I presume that all their builds are bungled. I don't wish to void the warranty, or worse, brick the device with a custom ROM setup.
Installing and testing different roms until you find one that works is time consuming and I just want a working phone.
But you are right about taking matters into my own hands, I am going to the phone store tomorrow and check out what would suit me, Nexus perhaps or a Lumina.
As far as I am concerned, that was the first and last Samsung phone I have bought.
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I would strongly suggest the HTC One or its soon to come successor. Wonderfully polished device and I would argue it's the most fluid Android phone around. It's certainly the most beautiful construction wise. Similarly I much prefer the sense ui over the ghastly samsung touchwiz ui.
Alternatively try a factory reset of your current, although this will be time consuming and, quite frankly, a pain in the ass.

Do a factory reset.
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"New" Z1C

I got a killer deal on a new, still-in-the-box Z1 Compact, and I'm wondering what the best thing to do is with regard to updating to the latest build. I've heard all the horror stories about the 5.1.1 update that I'm sure will be my only "automatic" option for ever upgrading it from its default state.
I'm not all that well versed on the particulars of each version of Android, so I guess what I need to know is if this latest 5.1.1 build is universally bad for everyone with this phone. Since some have reported new batteries resolving the problem, do you think it'll work on a brand new, never-touched Z1C (I haven't even turned it on yet)?
And if you do advise against Lollipop, how screwed am I sticking with an old Android version? Are there a lot of apps that require Lollipop? Part of the killer deal was no warranty, so I've only got one shot at this.
SImply put: If someone gave you a brand new Z1C and it was a "use it or lose it" situation, what would you?
Thanks in advance.

Lucky you!
If I got a brand new Z1C I'd configure it precisely the way I've got it.
Put the latest CM 11 nightly on it (there's a guy in the CM 11 thread who regularly updates the build to include Google's latest security patches) and also the Xposed modules I'm using. It's just so well configured right now, I'm even going to put a new battery in it next week since it's still really the best phone for me.
(Will consider ditching it for the Z3C later this year though.)

Right now? You may accept the deal! If there's no warranty and want a Stock-yet-Rooted experience you could go with a Stock based ROM (you can find plenty in the forum, based on 5.1.1 or 4.4.4, I suggest you to look ad Dstriker, based on 5.1.1)! Or you could get a CM based ROM like the Resurrection. Whatever you'll decide, work from that point with Xposed modules, Root apps etc.. to enhance your experience (if that really matters to you, otherwise just stick with the stock one).

I had the same problem about a week ago.
What I did was:
*updated it to latest firmware
*rooted with King Root
*backed up TA
*unlocked bootloader
*installed [KERNEL][Z1C][5.0-5.1][F2FS] Advanced-Kernel v16.0[11/16/2015]
*converted data & cache partition to F2FS
*installed [ROM][Z1C][LP][1.216][LB/UB]DstrikerZ1 Kai ROM SP001[27-Nov][Z5 LOOKS and FEATURES]
*installed Xposed
*did factory reset,cache and dalvik cache
*installed [Z~Z5 Series][EXRxTHS]SONY DRM FUNCTION RESTORATION FOR UB DEVICE
*rebooted to os
*Profit
At the moment after three days of usage 54% battery left. And the phone is flying :good:

If battery is your #1 priority, stay with stock or stock-based KK. I don't think there's much of any issues with app compatibility. However, I also haven't experienced any of the LP 'nightmares' some have reported. I've been on LP with this phone since it came out, and the battery drain is the only considerable downside I've found, and there are some roms that offer excellent relative battery performance, (dstriker, munjeni's 270, Oregon69's MIUI port...), and with battery saving tweaks, possibly comparable to KK. I would say go with latest version and try it out.

For battery, stock KK4.4.4 is still the best. Although, I'm running 5.1.1 and actually, it still brings me through two! complete days (i'm not a gamer, so light user).
However, with LTE / 4g switched on running my LP5.1.1, battery is going down like the Titanic on the iceberg.....so I only switch on LTE when really needed.

5.1.1 is just fine, battery difference between it and KK was negligible for me and other than that it runs very well
only downside is that ugly as hell blue status bar

5.1.1 is fine for me as well, 2-3 days regularly (no gaming).

I have stock 5.1.1, Locked Bootloader, but still have root access and TWRP.
Not had any problems(Needed to modify RW on SD card) and battery seems to be good.
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penicks said:
5.1.1 is just fine, battery difference between it and KK was negligible for me and other than that it runs very well
only downside is that ugly as hell blue status bar
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You have an android device, so you can costomize almost everything.
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Frunzdoedel said:
You have an android device, so you can costomize almost everything.
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damn son, i'd rather look at that ugly blue status bar than having an epileptic attack every time i unlock my phone

Im using http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...nt/rom-z5mx-rom7-5-0extended-battery-t3227779
in on of previous version, its 5.1.1 and works like a charm so far so good

New phone where to start?

Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich

Icharius said:
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
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Getting my Nexus 5X tomorrow but currently use a Nexus 5. With any Nexus you want to start off with setting up the Android SDK and all the Nexus drivers on your computer so if something does go south, you are ready to fix it with the factory images. The first thing I am going to do with mine is put Android N on it since I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Then root and most likely be happy with that for a while. Since Android N will probably be officially released soon, I'm sure that's when a lot of stuff will start happening around here. Hopefully Xposed will get updated to work with it. If so, that will be my setup. Stock, rooted and Xposed. That's basically what I have been running on my Nexus 5 for a while now. But if you want to try out custom ROMs, there are those too.

jsgraphicart said:
Getting my Nexus 5X tomorrow but currently use a Nexus 5. With any Nexus you want to start off with setting up the Android SDK and all the Nexus drivers on your computer so if something does go south, you are ready to fix it with the factory images. The first thing I am going to do with mine is put Android N on it since I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Then root and most likely be happy with that for a while. Since Android N will probably be officially released soon, I'm sure that's when a lot of stuff will start happening around here. Hopefully Xposed will get updated to work with it. If so, that will be my setup. Stock, rooted and Xposed. That's basically what I have been running on my Nexus 5 for a while now. But if you want to try out custom ROMs, there are those too.
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Thanks for your reply. good advice to save the original rom image! I will probably root too, because I usually OC my phones hopefully that won't be so much a hassle.

If I were you, I wouldn't OC at all. Snapdragon 800 series likes to overheat and throttle itself, making it slower than usual.

Icharius said:
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
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I have the N5X for several months.
I previously had the N4, N5, and OnePlus One (still have it, wife uses it).
I used stock, I used to flash ROMs at least twice a week minimum (same on the other devices). Various ROMs, to test their performance, their tweaks, their perks, their battery life... you name it.
However, flashing ROMs and trying out various mods feels very much like living on the road with your backpack on, rather than staying at home and having a steady job. Because while flashing ROMs, you don't always re-install all the things you had (Even if you backup with Titanium Backup, as some things don't survive data restore very well). Last week I made the decision to go stock and stay stock (well, not really, I went stock Android N Preview 5, which will receive OTA to full Nugget in about a month).
I have to tell you... I don't quite feel any difference other than losing a feature or two. Speed is still great; snappiness is snappy, no bugs and no issues. It feels great even though its encypted (by default), while all this time I was certain being un-unecrypted made the device any snappier; that was just a placebo I guess.
So yeah, you can go ahead and flash a custom ROM (or many of them!), but don't do it for improved performance. Stock performance is truly awesome, and while some ROMs make it better, for sure - it's not THAT better, not in any noticeable way. Do it for features, do it for fun, do it for curiosity, DO IT! But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.

thenessus said:
I have the N5X for several months.
I previously had the N4, N5, and OnePlus One (still have it, wife uses it).
I used stock, I used to flash ROMs at least twice a week minimum (same on the other devices). Various ROMs, to test their performance, their tweaks, their perks, their battery life... you name it.
However, flashing ROMs and trying out various mods feels very much like living on the road with your backpack on, rather than staying at home and having a steady job. Because while flashing ROMs, you don't always re-install all the things you had (Even if you backup with Titanium Backup, as some things don't survive data restore very well). Last week I made the decision to go stock and stay stock (well, not really, I went stock Android N Preview 5, which will receive OTA to full Nugget in about a month).
I have to tell you... I don't quite feel any difference other than losing a feature or two. Speed is still great; snappiness is snappy, no bugs and no issues. It feels great even though its encypted (by default), while all this time I was certain being un-unecrypted made the device any snappier; that was just a placebo I guess.
So yeah, you can go ahead and flash a custom ROM (or many of them!), but don't do it for improved performance. Stock performance is truly awesome, and while some ROMs make it better, for sure - it's not THAT better, not in any noticeable way. Do it for features, do it for fun, do it for curiosity, DO IT! But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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Agree. I used to root and ROM the crap out of phones but with the 5X I've stayed stock. Yeah, I see more ads now and miss Viper4Android but I spend no time F-ing with the phone and all the time just using it. No gyrations to go though to install monthly security updates or trying to get banking apps to work with root (like Android pay). Try it stock for a while.

przemcio510 said:
If I were you, I wouldn't OC at all. Snapdragon 800 series likes to overheat and throttle itself, making it slower than usual.
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I was reading that thermal problem post, it does present an issue to me because when I ride a bike I usually have the phone on the handle in a rubber case exposed to the sun and the heat that can easily reach over 35°. Thanks for the heads up.
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But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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I hear you, I have prolonged the life of my smartphones more than it should, by tweaking and using customs roms. I have had only 2 other SP in the spam of 6 years and had never had to be subject to a phone/data plan. I just ride the wifis signal or pay per use the 3g signal. Even-thought this LG is not a big inversion in itself, I hope I can squeeze several years of it and the old practice of using custom roms, seems kind of pointless or not worth the trouble considering as you say the stock is as good.
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Agree. . Try it stock for a while.
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Oh I will! there's so much I can do with it as it is, it seems.

Firmware Questions

I've been getting frustrated with the stock lollipop firmware on this device. Just doesn't feel snappy enough, but I seem to remember the device being quite good when I first got it. Had a few questions about stock as well as custom ROMs for this device:
1) Does anybody know if I can downgrade to one of the kitkat firmwares? Perhaps those will be more responsive than the LL ones. Note that I am currently running Resurrection Remix on it, but it was updated to the last LL ROM before I switched to RR, so the bootloader is the latest one out there.
2) I tried Lineage and RR custom ROMs .. Lineage was very buggy, while RR was quite stable. However, RR is not very responsive either, and it does not seem like the team is maintaining it anymore, because I have not seen any updates in a while and for some reason they made it near impossible to do an OTA update! Have not tried any of the unofficial custom ROMS. Anybody have any suggestions on a good one?
I use the device exclusively to read on and write with. I don't do any media, no games, no nothing else. Looking for the leanest and smoothest experience I can get for this use case. Any suggestions?
I don't care about knox and have rooted the device on stock LL successfully (I even have a guide here on how to patch the boot images to make it happen) ... Would going back to stock and then rooting, debloating and using a custom kernel deliver better results for my use case?
Any and all suggestions appreciated. Just don't ask me to go out and buy a new tablet This thing is in good shape and all I want to do with it is make it a glorified e-book reader, that shouldn't be too hard, right?
Thanks,
Karthik

I think the mistake you're making is that you have a newer phone... The newer hardware is blitzingly fast in comparison to the older hardware.
You need to remember, this tablet is almost 6 years old...
That said, you might get a bit more speed out of a newer kernel and OS but a factory reset might work just as well.
If you fill up the internal storage the tablet WILL lag big time...

ultramag69 said:
I think the mistake you're making is that you have a newer phone... The newer hardware is blitzingly fast in comparison to the older hardware.
You need to remember, this tablet is almost 6 years old...
That said, you might get a bit more speed out of a newer kernel and OS but a factory reset might work just as well.
If you fill up the internal storage the tablet WILL lag big time...
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You are 100% right about the new phone messing up the experience. And already did the reset, and the internal storage is EMPTY, just the OS and a bunch of pdfs and epubs for me to read, nothing else on it, apps are minimal too.
Knowing that the hardware is old, I suppose what I would really like to do is slim down the OS and overheads to such an extent that the tablet is basically a glorified ebook reader. I just want the scrolling, selection, notes taking and so on to be as smooth as it can be.
I ended up using the ElementalX kernel manager to set the governors and whatever else I could find to "Performance" and already it made a noticeable difference when I read. But when I type in Word, there is still the occasional stutter that bugs me. I have not put a custom kernel on there yet, mainly because I wanted to do both ROM and kernel all at once. It seems like RR is no longer updating for this device, so I might have to move back to Lineage, but I wonder if the community can suggest any other ROMs that are good. Again, its not that I need the updates or care about being on the latest Android version, but RR is not as good as I want right now, and without future updates it means its as good as its going to get.
What would be great is a way to go back to stock TW, root it and then strip it bare, load a custom kernel in there and tweak the crap out of it for performance (don't even care about battery) ... Too much to ask?

You should be able to go back to stock using ODIN - you will have to root again.
Then you could use a debloater script or app to kill off all the functions you don't want/need.
Using an sd card may also slow down the system a bit as it is a bottleneck to the faster internal storage but if you have the 32gb version that should be enough to have a library on it as an ebook reader and still have room for word processing...
I'm waiting to see how the new Lineage rom develops before committing to it as development has slowed or petered out on other roms I found of interest.
Also one last thing to consider, you only have 3gb of ram on your 10.1 2014 edition... This will slow things down A LOT...
Most phones now have at least 4gb of ram so your already behind...
If you want to see slow, dust off an old phone or tablet that has only 1 or 2gb ram... Seriously, it feels like waiting forever.
Tthat's all I have for you other than trying to get the stock rom from Sammobile.com...
Cheers...

ultramag69 said:
You should be able to go back to stock using ODIN - you will have to root again..
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Yes, but for some reason the last time I did this, I ended up with a bootloop that was only resolved by going back to Lineage. I will try this again though. Bigger question is whether I can only go back to stock 5.x ROM or downgrade back to 4.x ROM. I would like to go back to 4.x because I feel that might be faster and smoother, but to be perfectly honest, I don't remember!
I don't have a memory card either, 32 gig version and its enough for my use, especially with cloud storage doing the heavy lifting.
I just switched back to Lineage from RR because, for some reason MS Word was having difficulty understanding that it was running on a small tablet (wouldn't let me save without Office 365 because it thought I was using a bigger device) ... Lineage is REALLY slow compared to RR, not sure why this is. Going to play with the kernel settings and look for some custom kernels and see if that makes a difference. If not, goodbye to Lineage and back to stock with root and kernel tweaks.
Are there even any other ROMs still being updated? I see unofficial Lineage 16, but not really sure if I should be getting that ambitious!
Maybe I should spend some time looking up ROM build guides and try my hand at making a clean 'e-reader ROM'
Yes, the RAM thing is a problem certainly, but I figure killing everything else and using it exclusively for reading and writing should not be bottle-necked by 3gigs of RAM. However, I do know what you mean about using an old phone with 1 or 2 gigs, and its a NIGHTMARE!
Sammobile doesn't let me download the older ROMs anymore without coughing up for a premium account. But thankfully, I found some other sources to get me the other ROMs, so phew, thats a relief...

karthikrr said:
Yes, but for some reason the last time I did this, I ended up with a bootloop that was only resolved by going back to Lineage. I will try this again though. Bigger question is whether I can only go back to stock 5.x ROM or downgrade back to 4.x ROM. I would like to go back to 4.x because I feel that might be faster and smoother, but to be perfectly honest, I don't remember!
I don't have a memory card either, 32 gig version and its enough for my use, especially with cloud storage doing the heavy lifting.
I just switched back to Lineage from RR because, for some reason MS Word was having difficulty understanding that it was running on a small tablet (wouldn't let me save without Office 365 because it thought I was using a bigger device) ... Lineage is REALLY slow compared to RR, not sure why this is. Going to play with the kernel settings and look for some custom kernels and see if that makes a difference. If not, goodbye to Lineage and back to stock with root and kernel tweaks.
Are there even any other ROMs still being updated? I see unofficial Lineage 16, but not really sure if I should be getting that ambitious!
Maybe I should spend some time looking up ROM build guides and try my hand at making a clean 'e-reader ROM'
Yes, the RAM thing is a problem certainly, but I figure killing everything else and using it exclusively for reading and writing should not be bottle-necked by 3gigs of RAM. However, I do know what you mean about using an old phone with 1 or 2 gigs, and its a NIGHTMARE!
Sammobile doesn't let me download the older ROMs anymore without coughing up for a premium account. But thankfully, I found some other sources to get me the other ROMs, so phew, thats a relief...
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If you get bootloop, you need to wipe device completely...