This was a mildly popular phone and there was enough developer activity in the beginning. I'm wondering why it suddenly died the moment we moved to the Oreo era. Plus issues like figuring out the speakers working properly and battery drain still hasn't been figured out (no easy solution I mean).
I'm trying to understand why is this the case? Noob-friendly answers appreciated.
Edit: By dead development I mean its reduced a lot compared to the first year of release.
my thought would be is the firmware compatibility. i dont know exactly why this is but most nougat roms only run on nougat firmware and the same applies for other versions of android.
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So I've order an OPPO find 7 and from looking around and reading various sources I think that I will definitely change the original OS. In my opinion it doesn't look too appealing, in fact it looks like an early, cheap smartphone GUI and the fact that it apparently drains battery life pretty fast.
So my question is where do I start when it comes to custom ROMS? I have rooted my phone in the past, but it would have been nearly 3 years ago now so I know a little a bit about rooting my phone from what I remember however with this phone I don't know what ROM to download. Also I would like to know of any stable ROMS as I prefer stable ROMS although I also like simplicity. An example would be being able to install a stable lollipop on the phone? Is this possible? Or even a stable version of cyanogenmod as that looks appealing. Another problem that I have read about is that when people do this they can't access memory on their phone and the camera app doesn't include many features, so how would I combat this?
All in all it would be very useful for you to put links to well known ROMS and other important features that you recommend me to install.
- Thank you, MrDecy.
Hey there MrDecy, welcome to the Find 7 club.
There's two or three major options that I would suggest.
First, Cyanogenmod. I know their business practices haven't been stellar, but I really have found nothing wrong with any of their nightlies. I update nearly every day and never once have been disappointed by their performance or battery life. If you do get Cyanogenmod, you can also flash Maxxaudio and the Oppo camera to complete your experience. The only thing is that I haven't been able to get the unified storage to work, despite some people saying that it does.
Next is NamelessROM. It's basically Cyanogenmod but with a few Oppo-specific features and unified storage support. You can also flash Maxxaudio and the Oppo camera too, since it's based on CM. Unfortunately, while I enjoyed the early builds of the rom, I have found the later versions to be much more buggy. That being said, I haven't tried the rom in about a month or two, so things may have changed since then.
Finally, there's Oppo's new Lollipop AOSP rom. It's just meant for the people that want stock and nothing else, and doesn't come with Maxxaudio or the Oppo camera, but once again you can find those and flash them. Root is apparently working now, but when I was testing this ROM for Oppo, I couldn't figure out how to keep my root, so if rooting is a must, I might stay away. This is developed by Oppo though, and comes with the latest screen drivers, baseband and all that stuff, which should make for some really good battery life. It does also come with support for Unified storage. However, I have not tested the new one yet to see how well it performs.
Good luck with the flashing! I know this is super late, but I hope it can help you a bit.
Hi MrDecy
The Oppo developed AOSP is my daily driver and have rooted it by flashing via TWRP (the SuperSU ZipV2.49). The Oppo AOSP was announced a few weeks now and since release I have not experience any issue so far. The ROM was developed by Oppo and was meant to be bare and stock to suit the requirements of those who wish the bare android. It is light, fast and stripped of all the bloatwares usually found in the COS. I was able to install the COS camera as I find this oppo camera good. Do your research and I recommend also the OppoForum as it provides many information I believe could provide answers to most of your questions regarding ROMs. For instance the COS I have tried and tested the different versions, and the version intended for China which was based on the kitkat 4.4.4 is the smoothest in my opinion compared to the international version which comes still in the 4.4.2 release of android. The Chinese COS I used for more than 6-months and I find it okay. Oppo provided the APPs necessary to have a good experience of the hardware features of the Find 7 or 7a. Example is the Maxxaudio which I am currently trying to install to AOSP. It all depends on you taste if you prefer the stock android feel then go with the Oppo AOSP (It is stable). Also get the feel of COS first anyway other options are accessible here in XDA and the Oppo forum.
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Guys i have held back for long , need your honest opinion about the latest update,so far everywhere i see , there a lot of compliants about bugs in general , wanted to know is it really worth to update to lollipop my major concern is battery,
also is it possible to take the backup of current ROM with its exact state if so how do i do that
I personally used lollipop for a month after it came out and well I was not satisfied with it. The html5 video player will buffer on the best of connections, I am assuming a chipset issue there. I flashed all custom ROMs available for the ROM to get a fix for the issue but could not. Battery life is decent but is quite a lot better in kitkat especially with proper closed modules to optimize it. I would not recommend it and no you can't take a back up of your kitkat ROM to get back to it from lollipop. Although you can go back to kitkat via a method displayed on the xda forums. This is just my view tho. Other users might have some other experiences.
Coming from an iPhone 4S, I am very glad with the Sony Xperia Z1C that I bought a few months ago to replace it. The Z1C is still running on KitKat and it works perfectly fine. It is not rooted btw.
Now I am considering to update to Lollipop, but I wonder if that would be wise. On various forums, e.g. the Sony support forum, I read some "horror stories" (o.k. a bit exaggerated maybe) about decreased battery life, overheating etc. after a Lollipop update.
I already asked for an opinion on the Sony forum, but got an, imo, rather meaningless reply saying that earlier updates also had many complaints and the started thread was locked almost immediately by a moderator after that reply.
Now I hope that I can get some advice here. Is there a more or less general consensus here about updating or not ?
Thanks in advance.
I have absolutely no complains about this update. Still have great battery life, but no overheating or whatsoever. The phone is as pleasant to use use as before the update if not more
Opinions differ. Some specialists from this forum reverted from LP to KK for different reasons.
My personal opinion is that with every step ahead software becomes more complicated, investigates you and your activities in bigger grade and is more troublesome during rooting and personal modifications.
Since long ago my principal rule is: "Don't touch things which work correctly".
I am still on KK .108 however I tuned it in 100+ places to suit my needs.
I had crapy sound problem and don't recommend lollipop yet.
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Exactly.
For me, update to lollipop is a completely waste of time unfortunately again on 5.1.1. Poor multitasking, camera quality worst than kitkat (whitish tone on captured pictures and viewfinder lag in medium or low light conditions), battery draining... I prefer stability, performance and battery of kitkat than smoothness or visual changes from lollipop
performance on LP is better than KK. see aututu, it got 2000-3000 points more.
remember its a phone, and its better than 90% of the phones out there. it will never be S6 edge or whatever.
i like the smoothness in 5.1.1. if it was KK it would stand still for a sec or two, makes it feel slow, like this that is covered in animations.
about multitasking, got no issues, FB and the chat are great, instagram is fast, skype and viber work nice. 2 years almost and still kicking.
5.0.2 was laggy, and poor battery life.
5.1 is quick, good battery life, good multitasking.
The only thing worse about LP is the camera refresh rate. It look lower than 20fps (with KK it looks to be 60fps).
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Coming from an iPhone 4S, I am very glad with the Sony Xperia Z1C that I bought a few months ago to replace it. The Z1C is still running on KitKat and it works perfectly fine. It is not rooted btw.
Now I am considering to update to Lollipop, but I wonder if that would be wise. On various forums, e.g. the Sony support forum, I read some "horror stories" (o.k. a bit exaggerated maybe) about decreased battery life, overheating etc. after a Lollipop update.
I already asked for an opinion on the Sony forum, but got an, imo, rather meaningless reply saying that earlier updates also had many complaints and the started thread was locked almost immediately by a moderator after that reply.
Now I hope that I can get some advice here. Is there a more or less general consensus here about updating or not ?
Thanks in advance.
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From a technical standpoint, according to munjeni, who is well recognized as very knowledgeable in these things, KK is better, (.108 firmware specifically). He has a lot to say about it in his thread for his stock based LP ROM. Personally, I don't know much about all that, so for me it's more about user experience and trying something new. I like to go back and forth. I guess it just depends on what your priorities are.
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Opinions differ. Some specialists from this forum reverted from LP to KK for different reasons.
My personal opinion is that with every step ahead software becomes more complicated, investigates you and your activities in bigger grade and is more troublesome during rooting and personal modifications.
Since long ago my principal rule is: "Don't touch things which work correctly".
I am still on KK .108 however I tuned it in 100+ places to suit my needs.
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It's exactly my opinion too buddy :good: and since, from what I read here, there is too much discordance amongst opinion, I think I'm going to keep faith to this mantra still for a long of time LOL
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Personally, I don't know much about all that, so for me it's more about user experience and trying something new.
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Well. This IS a point, especially if you have free time to spend.
Otherwise I suggest to root phone, tune sound, camera, fast dormancy, gps.conf, remove bloatware, use better battery stats to tune battery usage, install Xposed modules and do more similar actions.
No comparison to branded phone.
LP is great regarding the user experience (visuals and animations) and I was able to get rid of a couple of apps after switching from KK (lock screen notifications, bt watch keeping device unlocked -> smart lock). Performance and battery life are still ok and I can not notice any difference.
but ... if you are considering moving to cm12.1
you should wait until the wifi / bt bug has been fixed, which is a major problem
and there is an issue with AudioFX (equalizer) that keeps crashing, which is annoying
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I'm new to the tab s, and I hope there is a stable and relatively bug free ROM that is not lollipop. Marshmallow is too new, so I hope for kitkat. I really like Cyanogenmod, but it looks like the earliest CM ROM is 12.x which, I believe, is android 5. Yuk. Not interested in terrible battery life. Any suggestion for a real solid, fast, debugged ROM for the SM-T700? I'm getting my new tablet tomorrow, and I'll be ready to root, backup and reROM right away. Hate the bloat! Thanks!
Not quite sure what you mean about terrible battery life. How is that related to lollipop?
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I'm new to the tab s, and I hope there is a stable and relatively bug free ROM that is not lollipop. Marshmallow is too new, so I hope for kitkat. I really like Cyanogenmod, but it looks like the earliest CM ROM is 12.x which, I believe, is android 5. Yuk. Not interested in terrible battery life. Any suggestion for a real solid, fast, debugged ROM for the SM-T700? I'm getting my new tablet tomorrow, and I'll be ready to root, backup and reROM right away. Hate the bloat! Thanks!
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Since a few days have passed, and I've done a lot more reading than the average person wants to do to answer these questions, and I've flashed a new ROM, I'll answer my own questions for others looking into similar questions.
It looks like many devices out there have suffered from the Android 4 to Android 5 updates, especially those forced by manufacturers. The biggest undesirable symptom being painfully reduced battery life. This is debated all over, especially since your mileage may vary. Since you can find these complaints much more frequently than with other Android upgrades, and since Google quickly released Android 6, it's safe to say there are legitimate issues here. Often people claim no such issues if upgrading to Android 5.1 (instead of Android 5.0) and/or if upgrading via a full wipe then clean flash. And since this is not explicitly the conventional update method for most users (again, mfg pushes update) then it's reasonable to assume updates from Android 4 to Android 5 may really just flat out "SUCK". Whether it's Google's fault or phone MFGs fault, it makes no difference to the end user; they will avoid the version of Android if they can't trust it.
As far as a better, stable, debloated KitKat (Android 4.4.x) ROM goes ...... sorry, too late. Pretty much all focus has been on getting Android 5 working properly. There are CyanogenMod 11 ROMs for the T700, but don't hold your breath for anything "official". I am now running CyanogenMod 12.1 (Android 5.1) and it seems stable with no issues so far and the battery life doesn't seem much worse than it was when running stock the TouchWiz KitKat, which was nice but heavily bloated. This is after root, TWRP, backup, full wipe, then flash CM12.1 and gapps.
My first choice ROM would have been LiquidSmooth, because a lot of praise was given it for being stable and bug-free, but all the download links are dead, the website(s) are pretty lame, and the last builds are almost a year old, so I gave CM a shot, since there are still recent nightly builds, and it is working well.
On a side note: Android 6 (M) third party ROMS are still yet to be stable on all sorts of devices out there, and Google is about to release Android N, possibly as Android 7.
Cmon Google, get it together. Slow down and do things right, and quit making things worse, like the exSDcard restrictions.
Hi a total total newbie here I have no clue but I love to learn.
I really like the ElementalX kernel for my htc one m7 mainly because of the overclocking and undervolting for battery consumption and the doubletaptowake with some sound enhancement. I custom rommed lineage os 16.0(stable) Android 9.0 from the site and I tried installing ElementalX kernel 14.12 sense which was for Android 4.4.2 sense UI 6 and the newer ElementalX-m7-22.4-Sense, obviously it wouldn't work because none of them are built for Android 9 and it would just bootloop all over again. The phone is rooted and I did download some root-needed apps kernel editors but you know how they go.. I don't wanna go back to stock because of the newer apps I'm gonna miss out on
Is there any hope for me to find a kernel that sort of supports my purpose? Thanks in advance
I honestly can’t answer your question. Just wanted to say I’m impressed you’re still rocking the m7 after all these years.
Was an awesome phone when it came out, except for the battery consumption; and then Verizon dragging their feet, and eventually refusing to release official updates.
I eventually turned to custom ROMs for a couple years before I eventually moved onto an iPhone 5c. May not have been able to customize it. But, I knew Apple would keep the updates flowing for a while.
Good luck in your quest.
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I honestly can’t answer your question. Just wanted to say I’m impressed you’re still rocking the m7 after all these years.
Was an awesome phone when it came out, except for the battery consumption; and then Verizon dragging their feet, and eventually refusing to release official updates.
I eventually turned to custom ROMs for a couple years before I eventually moved onto an iPhone 5c. May not have been able to customize it. But, I knew Apple would keep the updates flowing for a while.
Good luck in your quest.
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I knowww tbh I'm still using the LG V20, the Samsung note edge and the Nexus 6(which I still love to this day and wouldn't sell) from time to time. The main problem I have with those devices was the battery life.. "was" as in not anymore since I changed the battery and they're workhorses back again but the m7 is a hurtful little thing. I opened it once and immediately regretted unscrewing the first screw. It's a mess and hardware alternation is my current options . Anyways thank you for your input. I appreciate it. I might as well downgrade to lineage OS 14.1 Android 7 and there's a custom kernel for the same LIOS14.1 which might be compatible.