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Dear person reading this,
I've recently received an S4 mini, specifically the I9195 and I immediately got annoyed by the stock firmware. The sounds, the look, you probably know it. Since I've been using CM11 on my I9001 for a nice while I was wondering what the status of CM11 on this phone is like?
On the CM website I've seen there are no stable releases yet, so are the nightlies useable on a day-to-day basis? In other words, would you recommend flashing CM11? Are there any features which won't work?
As for the process of flashing itself, I've found this thread which seems to provide a nice overview, so I'm guessing that shouldn't pose any problems.
My apologies if this thread is a bit noobish, I've been reading around a bit but couldn't really find a nice up-to-date overview
Thanks and regards,
Marshian
If you use your S4 mini for anything serious, CM11 is still way too full of bugs. That's gonna change sooner or later, but for now I'd let CM11 wait unless you just use your S4 mini as a toy.
Check the opening post of this thread for a (long) list of bugs in S4 CM11: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558702
Until CM11 is done squashing bugs, the best ROM for S4 mini is a rooted stock ROM, debloated by freezing/removing all the junk that Samsung slapped on, and modded with Xposed.
For a list of what you can freeze/remove (with an explanation of what you freeze/remove): http://android.site666.info/indexapks.htm
Essential (imo) Xposed modules for S4: Downloads2SD, Pictures2SD, Wanam Xposed, XPrivacy, and XVolume.
If you have a KitKat (stock) ROM you'll need HandleExternalStorage too.
Essential app to get rid of annoying sounds: Ultimate Sound Control.
I'm using CM11 on my GT-I9195 and its the only phone I have. The bugs don't hinder everyday use (WhatsApp, chrome, phone calls, SMS) generally except for the odd nightly that causes bootloops or FCs. You can avoid that by waiting for someone to post in the discussion thread whether the latest nightly is bootable or causes any FCs.
As for flashing CM11, the guide you linked is good if you don't care for the warranty. Since you bought your phone recently its likely to have the KNOX flag which signifies whether the phone has been custom-flashed before and I'm most countries this KNOX flag, if tripped, will render your warranty void.
To check if you are on KNOX boot loader, boot into Download mode and see if there is any mention of KNOX.
If there is, there is a guide on how to not trip the KNOX flag while rooting.
IMHO any of KitKat's custom ROM is not mature enough. Still many things to implement for the developers, regardless of being stable or not. Though if better OS resource management is what you after than KitKat is unbeatable. After all, it was Google's intention.
However, any of the JB custom ROM variant are relatively stable and mature, despite some still has the 'beta' tag.
As for TouchWiz ROM, there's a limit to what you can do in terms of optimizing/de-bloat. Unless it a heavily modded TW based ROM. That my experience coming from S3.
TNCS said:
IMHO any of KitKat's custom ROM is not mature enough. Still many things to implement for the developers, regardless of being stable or not. Though if better OS resource management is what you after than KitKat is unbeatable. After all, it was Google's intention.
However, any of the JB custom ROM variant are relatively stable and mature, despite some still has the 'beta' tag.
As for TouchWiz ROM, there's a limit to what you can do in terms of optimizing/de-bloat. Unless it a heavily modded TW based ROM. That my experience coming from S3.
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Thanks for your input! (This also applies to everyone else who replied )
In terms of warranty, I don't have any anyway. Though it's a brand new phone, I got it as a prize from a competition so there's no way for me to go back to the store and prove I bought it there. Therefore, I don't mind triggering the KNOX-flag.
For now I'll stay away from CM11 then (though it runs really nicely on my S+), but would it be a better idea to mod the stock ROM until it stops sucking or flash CM10.2 (or another version?) on there? It looks like the bug-list for CM10.2 is quite small. Do you know of any features missing there?
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Thanks for your input! (This also applies to everyone else who replied )
In terms of warranty, I don't have any anyway. Though it's a brand new phone, I got it as a prize from a competition so there's no way for me to go back to the store and prove I bought it there. Therefore, I don't mind triggering the KNOX-flag.
For now I'll stay away from CM11 then (though it runs really nicely on my S+), but would it be a better idea to mod the stock ROM until it stops sucking or flash CM10.2 (or another version?) on there? It looks like the bug-list for CM10.2 is quite small. Do you know of any features missing there?
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I would recommend any custom ROM based on JB. There's no feature missing as I'm aware of. Personally I'm on SlimJB which I've modified a bit myself. KitKat simplay requires time to mature. Even at AOSP the swtich from davilk requires time. Just my two cents.
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For now I'll stay away from CM11 then (though it runs really nicely on my S+), but would it be a better idea to mod the stock ROM until it stops sucking or flash CM10.2 (or another version?) on there?
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I am very happy sticking with the last stable 10.2. It is reliable, quick, and battery drain is minimal (I use Gravity Screen Pro but the main power savings come from using Cyanogens advanced wifi settings).
You can always backup everything and try out a CM11.
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I am very happy sticking with the last stable 10.2. It is reliable, quick, and battery drain is minimal (I use Gravity Screen Pro but the main power savings come from using Cyanogens advanced wifi settings).
You can always backup everything and try out a CM11.
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I'll be going with the same solution once my microSIM and new microSD arrive, thanks!
So I've order an OPPO find 7 and from looking around and reading various sources I think that I will definitely change the original OS. In my opinion it doesn't look too appealing, in fact it looks like an early, cheap smartphone GUI and the fact that it apparently drains battery life pretty fast.
So my question is where do I start when it comes to custom ROMS? I have rooted my phone in the past, but it would have been nearly 3 years ago now so I know a little a bit about rooting my phone from what I remember however with this phone I don't know what ROM to download. Also I would like to know of any stable ROMS as I prefer stable ROMS although I also like simplicity. An example would be being able to install a stable lollipop on the phone? Is this possible? Or even a stable version of cyanogenmod as that looks appealing. Another problem that I have read about is that when people do this they can't access memory on their phone and the camera app doesn't include many features, so how would I combat this?
All in all it would be very useful for you to put links to well known ROMS and other important features that you recommend me to install.
- Thank you, MrDecy.
Hey there MrDecy, welcome to the Find 7 club.
There's two or three major options that I would suggest.
First, Cyanogenmod. I know their business practices haven't been stellar, but I really have found nothing wrong with any of their nightlies. I update nearly every day and never once have been disappointed by their performance or battery life. If you do get Cyanogenmod, you can also flash Maxxaudio and the Oppo camera to complete your experience. The only thing is that I haven't been able to get the unified storage to work, despite some people saying that it does.
Next is NamelessROM. It's basically Cyanogenmod but with a few Oppo-specific features and unified storage support. You can also flash Maxxaudio and the Oppo camera too, since it's based on CM. Unfortunately, while I enjoyed the early builds of the rom, I have found the later versions to be much more buggy. That being said, I haven't tried the rom in about a month or two, so things may have changed since then.
Finally, there's Oppo's new Lollipop AOSP rom. It's just meant for the people that want stock and nothing else, and doesn't come with Maxxaudio or the Oppo camera, but once again you can find those and flash them. Root is apparently working now, but when I was testing this ROM for Oppo, I couldn't figure out how to keep my root, so if rooting is a must, I might stay away. This is developed by Oppo though, and comes with the latest screen drivers, baseband and all that stuff, which should make for some really good battery life. It does also come with support for Unified storage. However, I have not tested the new one yet to see how well it performs.
Good luck with the flashing! I know this is super late, but I hope it can help you a bit.
Hi MrDecy
The Oppo developed AOSP is my daily driver and have rooted it by flashing via TWRP (the SuperSU ZipV2.49). The Oppo AOSP was announced a few weeks now and since release I have not experience any issue so far. The ROM was developed by Oppo and was meant to be bare and stock to suit the requirements of those who wish the bare android. It is light, fast and stripped of all the bloatwares usually found in the COS. I was able to install the COS camera as I find this oppo camera good. Do your research and I recommend also the OppoForum as it provides many information I believe could provide answers to most of your questions regarding ROMs. For instance the COS I have tried and tested the different versions, and the version intended for China which was based on the kitkat 4.4.4 is the smoothest in my opinion compared to the international version which comes still in the 4.4.2 release of android. The Chinese COS I used for more than 6-months and I find it okay. Oppo provided the APPs necessary to have a good experience of the hardware features of the Find 7 or 7a. Example is the Maxxaudio which I am currently trying to install to AOSP. It all depends on you taste if you prefer the stock android feel then go with the Oppo AOSP (It is stable). Also get the feel of COS first anyway other options are accessible here in XDA and the Oppo forum.
Cheers
just wondering if anyone still uses KK on the tab or have you moved up to LP 5.0 or 5.1 ...
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just wondering if anyone still uses KK on the tab or have you moved up to LP 5.0 or 5.1 ...
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I don't own tab but personally I think lollipop is a failed OS. Too bad for battery life although overall performance is better.
Back to kitkat N9005 Tweaked3.95 + LK3.17
My T800 ran for 260 days on kitkat without needing to be rebooted or tuned off even once now that is stability and i used it every day, when i did turn it off it was just to recalibrate the battery.
Too many reported problems with lollipop from less battery life, to lines on the screen, touchscreen problem, flash led problems, too much white in the stock apps and setting menu, stupid on an oled display.
I rooted my T800 and fixed the microsd problem, added AC3 support to the stock video player so why do i need kitkat, not saying i will not upgrade in the future to android m.
John.
I'm in the process of downgrade right now!
Ye i just flashed lollipop rom yesterday and now im rolling back to kk, i dont know if samsung is just trolling or what. you get a tiny status bar & notif panel then a blown up recent app manager, wtf? Plus no official xposed, and everything is just white & sky blue :/
A lot of people on SamMobile are saying that lollipop is a wasted update as it offers nothing new, and introduces a load of problems, also they are not happy at the way Samsung releases the updates.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/16/samsungs-software-update-policy-is-seriously-messed-up/
John.
For now, I believe they'll keep releasing 5.0 for older devices, and 5.1 for new ones.
Older models will always be one step behind, it's called marketing and forcing "impatient customers" to upgrade their device.
Although I notice these T700 and T800 5.0 versions keep getting patched with new updates and more stability, I believe we'll only get 5.1 when Android M is released for newer devices.
Then after 1, 2, or 3 years from release date and depending on each device, they are forgotten by the manufacturer and software updates are stopped, hoping you'll buy again a newer model, regardless of your device purchase date and condition.
And this in a way, explains why the XDA community is strong.
I finished downgrading. Tablet runs smoother, I can change many things in Xposed and generally, it just works.
Yeah, I choked on the lollipop, but i loved the chocolaty goodness of kitkat, stay on kitkat and don't be a sucker.
John.
hurdlejade said:
I finished downgrading. Tablet runs smoother, I can change many things in Xposed and generally, it just works.
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In my opinion, I'm on LP because I find it much smoother than KK.
The newer kernel and drivers on lollipop are the main reasons for better performance, which is easily seen in Antutu scores.
The only advantages I find in KK is that it's less buggy and ram leak is better.
When you say performance are you talking about gaming? , if so a lot of people don't game or only use simple games that don't require a great deal of system performance.
I don't game, and i have not seen any laginess on kitkat, i had it running 260 days without any problems i did not reset or shut-down a single time.
John.
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In my opinion, I'm on LP because I find it much smoother than KK.
The newer kernel and drivers on lollipop are the main reasons for better performance, which is easily seen in Antutu scores.
The only advantages I find in KK is that it's less buggy and ram leak is better.
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With LP you do need to reboot now and then due to ram leak problem.
Let's say LP is faster than KK at the beginning and after a few days it crawls due to ram leak, until you reboot and it's pristine again for the next days.
To be honest, while my initial reactions to Lollipop on both my TAB S and my Nexus 5 was less than favorable, after finding the right alternate ROMs I am very happy. Great performance (I don't game), great battery life, theming that allows me to black out the white menus and I'm very happy on both my devices. Would I be happy on stock? I don't know, and I understand not everyone wants to flash alternate ROMs. What I do think is that Lollipop takes a while to settle in and make sure you don't have an app that is incompatible (Samsung messed with ART). If you dive into it for only a couple of days, and you are really used to KitKat, of course you will want to go back. After using Lollipop for a while now, I would never go back.
Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anything to folks who disagree.
It`s great if you can tune lollipop the way you want, but most people cannot do this, and get stuck on a buggy stock rom until the next official update, which might never arrive, thank-you Samsung.
John.
Hookmt said:
To be honest, while my initial reactions to Lollipop on both my TAB S and my Nexus 5 was less than favorable, after finding the right alternate ROMs I am very happy. Great performance (I don't game), great battery life, theming that allows me to black out the white menus and I'm very happy on both my devices. Would I be happy on stock? I don't know, and I understand not everyone wants to flash alternate ROMs. What I do think is that Lollipop takes a while to settle in and make sure you don't have an app that is incompatible (Samsung messed with ART). If you dive into it for only a couple of days, and you are really used to KitKat, of course you will want to go back. After using Lollipop for a while now, I would never go back.
Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anything to folks who disagree.
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Tend to agree. At first I wasn't keen on lollipop, but after using for a while and a little tweaking its running just fine. Dont know what this ram leak thing is all about as I've seen nothing of it. I would have thought, whatever that was, almost all manufacturers would have patched it by now including Samsung.
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Tend to agree. At first I wasn't keen on lollipop, but after using for a while and a little tweaking its running just fine. Dont know what this ram leak thing is all about as I've seen nothing of it. I would have thought, whatever that was, almost all manufacturers would have patched it by now including Samsung.
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I have lolipop on three devices Nexus 5&10 (5.1.1) and a Tab S 10.5 (5.0.2). Right from the beginning both tablets have been rock solid with a small but noticable bump in speed. On the other hand my Nexus 5 lost its rock solid kitkat stability and no matter what I do, short of re-flashing Kitkat, I cannot seem to fix it.
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Did you do an reset before or after updating to lollipop, as you say you have had no problems.
John.
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I have lolipop on three devices Nexus 5&10 (5.1.1) and a Tab S 10.5 (5.0.2). Right from the beginning both tablets have been rock solid with a small but noticable bump in speed. On the other hand my Nexus 5 lost its rock solid kitkat stability and no matter what I do, short of re-flashing Kitkat, I cannot seem to fix it.
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Did you do an reset before or after updating to lollipop, as you say you have had no problems.
John.
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Assuming you are asking about my Tab S experience, I used the guide in this forum to root without tripping Knox. I had to downgrade to stock Kitkat then root then upgrade to stock Lollipop. As soon as you downgrade using Odin you must do a factory reset in stock recovery, so yes I reset and always after the firmware change. In fact I've done the whole process several times as I've tried theming and every time I changed framework-res.apk it borked the UI and I need to do the whole process again.
At this time I've sworn off changing framework-res.apk. It is not a total write off as Flashfire back ups recover everything like a nadroid backup. Its weakness is that if you cannot start the app you can not do a restore. All that due to not wanting to loose my warranty on a two month old device so cannot flash a custom recovery like TWRP.
I did successfully flash from Lollipop B0E2 to B0E3 (boot, recover, system images) using Flashfire. That upgrade did not require a factory reset. In fact my user data, apps, root (SuperSU) and settings remained intact. All I need to do was re-flash any SuperSU policies I had previously installed along with any apps I installed in /system such as Viper4Android.
Specifically the upgrade and resulting experience was almost identical to upgrading Lollipop on my Nexus devices (5.0 through to 5.1.1), which is very easy and never required a factory reset. Although I usually clear the cache/dalvik just to be safe.
Im thinking about updating to Android 6 but im not quite sure if i should do it already.
Heard some good things about perfomance and overall feeling but also about lowered Imagequality.
What are your pros and cons about the update? Is it worth going? Pls help me
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Well thx for your response! [emoji14]
im currently on fulmics 2.7 with xceed and its feeling really smooth. There is not a real reason for me to upgrad but i feel a bit outdated if i stay on lp. I know its stupid.
Im not using the camera for high quality shots at all but i also dont want to loose some of the quality. Is there any chance that lg will update the camera problem?
and about the knock code: i think there is no way for the devs to disable the "6knocks3areas" rule? i love the knock code on lp and dont want to miss it
I think I will wait and see if LG can fix this problems or maybe a dev can
As far as I know the MM release is somewhat a beta release since it was only released in Poland. It being a beta, I guess it's normal to have a numerous amount of bugs. So better wait for the global final release before ranting out on unfinished beta software.
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Dont rly know what you talking about. Knock code for me works fine and camera FV 5 does the job well on every condition.
V30b is doing fine with and am most satisfied with batery life.
But looks like its just mz expiriance and its up to you if your going to wait for the nwxt relese or upgrade like me.
All the best .
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Ya works fine with me to. v30b is one smooth ride. knock code is only 2 more taps anyway so thats not to bad as far as camera goes it grand. Believe me LP sucks ass compared to this. do yourself a favor and flash+root v30b sure if you dont like it you can allways go back to lolipop ?
simple case of user error
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Each to their own. /TLDR. Narf.
If you come up with a claim at least try to put a reason behind it - everything else is just pure arrogance or simply said hot air venting from between the two bottom halves.
The JPG-Engine seemingly was downgraded just like the Camera is way less responsible and OIS (even while hardware-based) seems to be fcked up with their drivers introducing lag as such leading to blurry pictures under the same conditions that were absolutely fine on LP.
(And I don't have Parkinson)
Just ask kairi_zeroblade but I bet he's tired of those endless discussions with people that don't bring up reason or listen to those with more insight and technical knowledge (like him - I'm not even speaking about myself that is).
Like I said - each to their own. If you need to experience it yourselves and don't care you're free to do so.
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Heres my problem with your opinion. Which it is an opinion. As with most reviews people give on xda, people here already have a high expectation based on their technical experience or lack there of. Ive found that if i compare peoples reviews from xda to other sites or real world, youll find a really wide spread. Im not saying youre wrong but you project opinion off as fact. Even reading this reply to people you attack anyone disagreeing by saying they are sheep or arrogant. Ever heard of variance. Sure every device comea off the line "identical" but errors happen. If you have a defective phone to begin with a software update may not fix it. Its why you get people on so many places on a line. Ive been with android since the beginning and these kind of responses have always happened. Ive seen peolle post and say that "everyone " is having the issue and they should either not buy the device or not update. Xda is not representative at all of any real user base for a specific device. For anyone looking for whether or not to install something or update. Id say take everything with a grain of salt and read many reviews. In the end its hpw you see the device.
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Don't know what you're complaining about, ever since v30b was released, it completely changed my G3. The interface lags in Lollipop are gone, there was a 2sec stutter everytime I wanted to do something under 5.0. App switching is instant and the whole interface is running at 60Fps. In lollipop even the slide down menu was laggy as hell. I like the G4 UX and battery sleep time is actually a bit better than Lollipop. I'm extremely happy that LG kept updating the G3 and fixed a lot of problems, I will not update my phone this year. And I agree with @monkeypaws, a lot of people here praise stock based custom roms and kernels. The truth no one wants to hear on this forum is this : Stock based custom roms are 100% useless. You can do the debloating using Root Browser, you can install third party apps like App Ops or Kernel Auditor yourself. Custom Roms are not magic, a lot of people talk about how BUTTER SMOOTH this and SLEEP LIKE A BABY that and so on. Wake up, it's not any different than stock rom. So are custom kernels bumped to Linux 3.4.111 sources. Most of them are horrible in terms of battery saving because of 'Overclocking'. Apart from frying your already hot as a potato G3 on light use, you'll do nothing interesting to it.
The only noteworthy content in XDA are Cyanogenmods, AOSP, and the ports like on the Samsung scene, where the S6 edge features ported to the S5, or 5.1.1 ported to the S5 that was officially supported up to 5.0.2 only a few months back. There's actual work done, not some twelvie on Archikitchen feeling like a developer
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Well thx for your response! [emoji14]
im currently on fulmics 2.7 with xceed and its feeling really smooth. There is not a real reason for me to upgrad but i feel a bit outdated if i stay on lp. I know its stupid.
Im not using the camera for high quality shots at all but i also dont want to loose some of the quality. Is there any chance that lg will update the camera problem?
and about the knock code: i think there is no way for the devs to disable the "6knocks3areas" rule? i love the knock code on lp and dont want to miss it
I think I will wait and see if LG can fix this problems or maybe a dev can
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hi can yuo tell me which build of exceed kernel ? im also on fulmics v2.7 with exceed build 5 and somehow its a bit unresponsive or takes a few seconds to open an app or file explorer....thanks
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hi can yuo tell me which build of exceed kernel ? im also on fulmics v2.7 with exceed build 5 and somehow its a bit unresponsive or takes a few seconds to open an app or file explorer....thanks
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For me,build 2a is still best.It's the most stable and battery friendly build for me.
Build 5 had poor battery timing for me and build 6 had several random reboots per day.Only thing I miss from latest builds is increased charging speed,but i can live without that
Gee thanks buddy...will give it a shot...
Hello everyone. I want to share with you my experience with Lg G3 2 gb version with stock android 6.0 mm. I have installed android mm on my device since 2 january. After one month of use i can say that updating to mm, for me ,was a very bad idea. I don't know how it is on other lg g3's but mine it got worse after the update. The camera is much worse than lp, memory management is just awful...multitasking became ussels...almost impossible, the phone is laggy and it stutter very bad. In my case lollipop was so much better than android mm. Only pros for the mm are the battery life and better looking UI. (sorry for my english, it's not my main language)
I find Marshmallow much better than Lollipop in the other hand.
Lollipop had bad battery life, performance was very inconsistent (sometimes it was fine, often I would get 10 second white screen hanging while launching apps like facebook, youtube, etc. ). But two worst things about Lollipop were often force closes of LG's launcher and invisible apps in Recents window. And all that was happening even though it was heavily tweaked to reduce the lag and preserve battery life. Quickcircle wasnt usable and practical at all (if you use it ofc).
Marshmallow has much better UI (all Lollipop UI bugs are fixed), performance is great and it's also CONSISTENT, just like battery life. I feel the camera is the same (IF YOU WANT TRUE CAMERA BUY A DSLR). Memory management is the same (it was good on Lollipop already). Quickcircle finally makes sense and it's practical.
If using stock roms, Lollipop is very unusable and need heavy tweaking until it's tolerable. Even then, Marshmallow is much more consistent and more responsive than heavily tweaked Lollipop and there are no random force closes.
If you are rooted, backup your existing Lollipop ROM, try out Fulmics MM ROM. If you dont like it, you can easily restore you LP ROM.
After all this different opinions i think i will wait for the global release. Fulmics 3.1 Rom seems to be good but maybe LG will fix some of their fails like knock code. LP is running pretty good for me so theres no real reason to upgrade
But thanks anyways!
I just wanted to say that xpirt managed to change the Knock Code in his MM Rom. Fulmics 3.5 has a 3 Taps Knock Code
So theres one probleme less. Maybe LG will fix their camera too
I've been getting frustrated with the stock lollipop firmware on this device. Just doesn't feel snappy enough, but I seem to remember the device being quite good when I first got it. Had a few questions about stock as well as custom ROMs for this device:
1) Does anybody know if I can downgrade to one of the kitkat firmwares? Perhaps those will be more responsive than the LL ones. Note that I am currently running Resurrection Remix on it, but it was updated to the last LL ROM before I switched to RR, so the bootloader is the latest one out there.
2) I tried Lineage and RR custom ROMs .. Lineage was very buggy, while RR was quite stable. However, RR is not very responsive either, and it does not seem like the team is maintaining it anymore, because I have not seen any updates in a while and for some reason they made it near impossible to do an OTA update! Have not tried any of the unofficial custom ROMS. Anybody have any suggestions on a good one?
I use the device exclusively to read on and write with. I don't do any media, no games, no nothing else. Looking for the leanest and smoothest experience I can get for this use case. Any suggestions?
I don't care about knox and have rooted the device on stock LL successfully (I even have a guide here on how to patch the boot images to make it happen) ... Would going back to stock and then rooting, debloating and using a custom kernel deliver better results for my use case?
Any and all suggestions appreciated. Just don't ask me to go out and buy a new tablet This thing is in good shape and all I want to do with it is make it a glorified e-book reader, that shouldn't be too hard, right?
Thanks,
Karthik
I think the mistake you're making is that you have a newer phone... The newer hardware is blitzingly fast in comparison to the older hardware.
You need to remember, this tablet is almost 6 years old...
That said, you might get a bit more speed out of a newer kernel and OS but a factory reset might work just as well.
If you fill up the internal storage the tablet WILL lag big time...
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I think the mistake you're making is that you have a newer phone... The newer hardware is blitzingly fast in comparison to the older hardware.
You need to remember, this tablet is almost 6 years old...
That said, you might get a bit more speed out of a newer kernel and OS but a factory reset might work just as well.
If you fill up the internal storage the tablet WILL lag big time...
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You are 100% right about the new phone messing up the experience. And already did the reset, and the internal storage is EMPTY, just the OS and a bunch of pdfs and epubs for me to read, nothing else on it, apps are minimal too.
Knowing that the hardware is old, I suppose what I would really like to do is slim down the OS and overheads to such an extent that the tablet is basically a glorified ebook reader. I just want the scrolling, selection, notes taking and so on to be as smooth as it can be.
I ended up using the ElementalX kernel manager to set the governors and whatever else I could find to "Performance" and already it made a noticeable difference when I read. But when I type in Word, there is still the occasional stutter that bugs me. I have not put a custom kernel on there yet, mainly because I wanted to do both ROM and kernel all at once. It seems like RR is no longer updating for this device, so I might have to move back to Lineage, but I wonder if the community can suggest any other ROMs that are good. Again, its not that I need the updates or care about being on the latest Android version, but RR is not as good as I want right now, and without future updates it means its as good as its going to get.
What would be great is a way to go back to stock TW, root it and then strip it bare, load a custom kernel in there and tweak the crap out of it for performance (don't even care about battery) ... Too much to ask?
You should be able to go back to stock using ODIN - you will have to root again.
Then you could use a debloater script or app to kill off all the functions you don't want/need.
Using an sd card may also slow down the system a bit as it is a bottleneck to the faster internal storage but if you have the 32gb version that should be enough to have a library on it as an ebook reader and still have room for word processing...
I'm waiting to see how the new Lineage rom develops before committing to it as development has slowed or petered out on other roms I found of interest.
Also one last thing to consider, you only have 3gb of ram on your 10.1 2014 edition... This will slow things down A LOT...
Most phones now have at least 4gb of ram so your already behind...
If you want to see slow, dust off an old phone or tablet that has only 1 or 2gb ram... Seriously, it feels like waiting forever.
Tthat's all I have for you other than trying to get the stock rom from Sammobile.com...
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
You should be able to go back to stock using ODIN - you will have to root again..
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Yes, but for some reason the last time I did this, I ended up with a bootloop that was only resolved by going back to Lineage. I will try this again though. Bigger question is whether I can only go back to stock 5.x ROM or downgrade back to 4.x ROM. I would like to go back to 4.x because I feel that might be faster and smoother, but to be perfectly honest, I don't remember!
I don't have a memory card either, 32 gig version and its enough for my use, especially with cloud storage doing the heavy lifting.
I just switched back to Lineage from RR because, for some reason MS Word was having difficulty understanding that it was running on a small tablet (wouldn't let me save without Office 365 because it thought I was using a bigger device) ... Lineage is REALLY slow compared to RR, not sure why this is. Going to play with the kernel settings and look for some custom kernels and see if that makes a difference. If not, goodbye to Lineage and back to stock with root and kernel tweaks.
Are there even any other ROMs still being updated? I see unofficial Lineage 16, but not really sure if I should be getting that ambitious!
Maybe I should spend some time looking up ROM build guides and try my hand at making a clean 'e-reader ROM'
Yes, the RAM thing is a problem certainly, but I figure killing everything else and using it exclusively for reading and writing should not be bottle-necked by 3gigs of RAM. However, I do know what you mean about using an old phone with 1 or 2 gigs, and its a NIGHTMARE!
Sammobile doesn't let me download the older ROMs anymore without coughing up for a premium account. But thankfully, I found some other sources to get me the other ROMs, so phew, thats a relief...
karthikrr said:
Yes, but for some reason the last time I did this, I ended up with a bootloop that was only resolved by going back to Lineage. I will try this again though. Bigger question is whether I can only go back to stock 5.x ROM or downgrade back to 4.x ROM. I would like to go back to 4.x because I feel that might be faster and smoother, but to be perfectly honest, I don't remember!
I don't have a memory card either, 32 gig version and its enough for my use, especially with cloud storage doing the heavy lifting.
I just switched back to Lineage from RR because, for some reason MS Word was having difficulty understanding that it was running on a small tablet (wouldn't let me save without Office 365 because it thought I was using a bigger device) ... Lineage is REALLY slow compared to RR, not sure why this is. Going to play with the kernel settings and look for some custom kernels and see if that makes a difference. If not, goodbye to Lineage and back to stock with root and kernel tweaks.
Are there even any other ROMs still being updated? I see unofficial Lineage 16, but not really sure if I should be getting that ambitious!
Maybe I should spend some time looking up ROM build guides and try my hand at making a clean 'e-reader ROM'
Yes, the RAM thing is a problem certainly, but I figure killing everything else and using it exclusively for reading and writing should not be bottle-necked by 3gigs of RAM. However, I do know what you mean about using an old phone with 1 or 2 gigs, and its a NIGHTMARE!
Sammobile doesn't let me download the older ROMs anymore without coughing up for a premium account. But thankfully, I found some other sources to get me the other ROMs, so phew, thats a relief...
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If you get bootloop, you need to wipe device completely...