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[Q] Are the risks worth the benefits?

I got a brand new Galaxy S3 on Monday. Coming from an Inspire 4g and an HD2 before that, I'm not new to flashing ROMs or anything. I rooted that phone almost instantly, because it was a refurbished phone and didn't have a warranty. Now on this one, I'm a bit hesitant to root or flash any custom ROMs.
I've also read a bit about stock vs AOSP ROMs... can any one give me an example of each? Preferably a stable, JB based ROM? I would like to use a stock based ROM so I can have all my apps and settings back when I flash. This stock ROM is eating up battery life rather quickly so I want something quick, stable, and visually pleasing without any bloatware.
I am aware that I can just return my phone to the store within 14 days if it doesn't work... an employee told me they don't even look to see if it's rooted or has a custom ROM.

Synyster06Gates said:
I got a brand new Galaxy S3 on Monday. Coming from an Inspire 4g and an HD2 before that, I'm not new to flashing ROMs or anything. I rooted that phone almost instantly, because it was a refurbished phone and didn't have a warranty. Now on this one, I'm a bit hesitant to root or flash any custom ROMs.
I've also read a bit about stock vs AOSP ROMs... can any one give me an example of each? Preferably a stable, JB based ROM? I would like to use a stock based ROM so I can have all my apps and settings back when I flash. This stock ROM is eating up battery life rather quickly so I want something quick, stable, and visually pleasing without any bloatware.
I am aware that I can just return my phone to the store within 14 days if it doesn't work... an employee told me they don't even look to see if it's rooted or has a custom ROM.
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I think it is worth it. Look through the S3 forums and you'll find various options for ROMs that meet your needs. I'm running Serenity v1.1 which is a JB GNote2 port. It is stable and works well for me.
I would also read MrRobinsons stickied post about Rooting. Towards the bottom of the OP there is a tool mentioned that he made that will help you de-bloat. It works wonderfully. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426

I noticed it says the ATT one is " New Image Based off ATT I747UCALG1"
I have the newest software, would I be able to update after doing this? Or will that put me right back where I am now

I just put CM 10 over the stock ICE. Incredible difference. Go for it!
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It really depends on what kind of user you are. If you're a user that prefers stability and is not that much of a 'power user', then the risks might be troublesome for you. If you're the user that wants adventure and doesn't mind fixing bugs every now and then, then give it a go. I'm a user that's in a middle of both - I like stability and I'm kind of a power user and I also enjoy fixing bugs because I learn something new and the experience of fixing bugs increases my knowledge of how my phone works. IMO, the most stable ROM I've used so far is CM10 - I'm currently using a nightly build and it works great so far - although it kinda has a few problems like some programs crashing unexpectedly and some phone functions not working properly. My advice is that you decide first what type of user you are and then evaluate the risks you're going to take - there's a high chance that you might brick your phone even if you've rooted a phone before as there are different specs for every phoen and one mistake could cause a serious trouble.

SGS3 aokp jb, d2att 3.9.12 by task 650+ktoonsez kt747 kernel
Rooting is easy on this phone, use galaxys3root.com for figuring out rooting and here's a link to aokp jelly bean 4.1.2 by task650 and ktoonsez it is by far in my opinion the best ROM out for the att variant right now its very light and very fast with more customods then you can imagine! Just get rooted install latest cmw recovery I reccomend the touch version and read all of task650's steps for flashing and I guarantee you will be pleased rooting this phone is definitely worth it just wait til you try it with it over clocked to 2100megahertz it crazy fast! I phone ain't got jack on this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684

bg4710 said:
Rooting is easy on this phone, use galaxys3root.com for figuring out rooting and here's a link to aokp jelly bean 4.1.2 by task650 and ktoonsez it is by far in my opinion the best ROM out for the att variant right now its very light and very fast with more customods then you can imagine! Just get rooted install latest cmw recovery I reccomend the touch version and read all of task650's steps for flashing and I guarantee you will be pleased rooting this phone is definitely worth it just wait til you try it with it over clocked to 2100megahertz it crazy fast! I phone ain't got jack on this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684
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In my opinion, I would prefer this guide first before that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
That guide shows information that's what you're probably going to need if you don't want your phone to get out of warranty and if you want your phone's radio functioning properly. I followed that guide step-by-step and thoroughly and so far, I've achieved the desired result which is not to trip the flash counter. Also, I would also suggest that you search through the forums for revised rooting guides before you root your S3.

Synyster06Gates said:
I got a brand new Galaxy S3 on Monday. Coming from an Inspire 4g and an HD2 before that, I'm not new to flashing ROMs or anything. I rooted that phone almost instantly, because it was a refurbished phone and didn't have a warranty. Now on this one, I'm a bit hesitant to root or flash any custom ROMs.
I've also read a bit about stock vs AOSP ROMs... can any one give me an example of each? Preferably a stable, JB based ROM? I would like to use a stock based ROM so I can have all my apps and settings back when I flash. This stock ROM is eating up battery life rather quickly so I want something quick, stable, and visually pleasing without any bloatware.
I am aware that I can just return my phone to the store within 14 days if it doesn't work... an employee told me they don't even look to see if it's rooted or has a custom ROM.
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Here's another thought.
I came from an HD2 which from day one, I was flashing roms and kernels like crazy. I became very good at customizing and finding what I liked. I even worked very closely and aided some of the more popular rom devs. I even designed or hacked out some of my own mods including a memory management system. BUT...I could never achieve with the amazing HD2 (ahead of it' time in many ways) what the Stock Rom ICS and my S3 has done out of the box.
I meant to go to CM10 or a custom rom of some sort, but the stock rom has been a DREAM of stability which I never achieved with the HD2. It's rooted and that allows me to customize features and have more choices for apps that require root etc. I fixed a few things, added Go Launcher EX which was a huge improvement and offers awesome features, tweaked etc., and this thing runs near perfect. It's plenty fast enough. My I747m has 2gb ram and I could write a book as to why I think the 2gb makes a world of potential difference depending on setup. Also, as usual, I have frozen quite a few stock apps with Titanium Backup and replaced them with my favorite apps. (eg Handcent SMS, Kaiten Email, Boat Browser) I miss some CM features that I used to have but I have great speed, fluidity, reliability and generous flexibility....so for now...I am not doing a custom rom. FOR ME personally, I need to stay with a stable rom because I just came from near 2 years of FIXING and tweaking and killing hours upon hours.

I would be happy with just rooting it, as long as I could remove bloatware!

Synyster06Gates said:
I would be happy with just rooting it, as long as I could remove bloatware!
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That's what I would do Synyster. It's great to explore, tweak, flash....etc., but if you want the best bang for the buck, best use of time, least amount of troubleshooting and testing.... imho...
- root and install custom CWM for easy flashing of updates/tweaks and for easy backup.
-buy/install Titanium Backup pro and either remove or safer....FREEZE bloatware.

There's a lot of cool things with the AOSP roms. However, I'm at the point where I've become OCD with flashing nightlies. The more I flash ROMs the more nit picky I have been. I'm looking to go back to stock firmware, debloat, root, and CWM. I think that'll be good enough for stability IMO...

I'd say so!

What Rom do you use?

What rom do you use? OR willing to use?
I wonder what roms are needed to keep runing. I hope this poll makes it clean what rom worth our time, what we should concentrate.
Thanks your vote.

LiteROM
but love CM

I used to have official PAC-MAN, more complet and usefull.
But some problems with the UI (fc) force me to change to unnofficial cm10.2 (bubors).

Cm10.1
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Just vote top of the page. Hard to count, when people post instead of vote.

No vote on xda app
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Using CM10.1.3.
For me, stock lacks smoothness and RAM, CM10.2 lacks network traffic indicator (@bubor, why isn't it corrected after so long?), PACman lacks stability and a proper launcher.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ Android 4.4 KRT16M

AndyYan said:
Using CM10.1.3.
For me, stock lacks smoothness and RAM, CM10.2 lacks network traffic indicator (@bubor, why isn't it corrected after so long?), PACman lacks stability and a proper launcher.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ Android 4.4 KRT16M
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Nobody had decent bug report. Hard to fix a feature what I've never used.
Fixed in 20131110, try it, and report back.

It might create a lot of poll options, but perhaps you should ask which ROM people use, and also which ROM they wish/want to use. A single option could be phrased thusly:
Use LiteROM 0.9 / Want PAC-Man 4.3
Which would be my option, will vote from a PC later to cast my vote in the current poll.
I'm suggesting this because I think the majority here would like to use a different ROM, if only 'X' worked, or 'Y' wasn't unstable. Alternatively, the poll could just be about which ROM people want to use. Saves all the possible use/want combinations.
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Evil Alex said:
It might create a lot of poll options, but perhaps you should ask which ROM people use, and also which ROM they wish/want to use. A single option could be phrased thusly:
Use LiteROM 0.9 / Want PAC-Man 4.3
Which would be my option, will vote from a PC later to cast my vote in the current poll.
I'm suggesting this because I think the majority here would like to use a different ROM, if only 'X' worked, or 'Y' wasn't unstable. Alternatively, the poll could just be about which ROM people want to use. Saves all the possible use/want combinations.
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Single vote serves me. We have 4 android 4.3 rom, and many 4.2. Too few people use glide to have that much roms. Users are fragmented. My cm-10.2 topic is full with useless posts. I have to waste time to confirm a bug, what should be done by others.
It's simple I wouldnt maintain a rom what's used less then 20 people.

Used several
So, im currently on my 4th day using [PORT][ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.1.2]LiquidSmooth-JellyBean Glide by Ninthsense. So far I cant complain, i dont use BT or Voip services, so I really dont care so much about those issues, at first I used LiteROM the latest one from the greatergood didnt convince me, as it had several issues; after that I flashed CM 10.1 by Spyke555, it was really good and stable but some toggles came out automatically, for example data and, or GPS, meh... went back to stock ICS rooted, with litekernel, wasnt happy due to my battery life, and ram availability. Also my files on the SD card becamekind of unstable, some images were not shown, music couldnt be played... now Im using liquid smooth JB 4.1. Which so far feels really good. Is there another ROM you could reccomend me to use?

bubor said:
Single vote serves me. We have 4 android 4.3 rom, and many 4.2. Too few people use glide to have that much roms. Users are fragmented. My cm-10.2 topic is full with useless posts. I have to waste time to confirm a bug, what should be done by others.
It's simple I wouldnt maintain a rom what's used less then 20 people.
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Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.

Evil Alex said:
Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.
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PAC-man is a feature rich rom, dont expect same speed/battery usage as a clean rom.
Ppl started to post why, but I dont really care.
I can see how much user download my roms, and they are too few to keep continue my work. At the moment I make more room (cm 10.1, cm 10.2 , pacman, omnirom), but I've got only one vote so far. More room then user(s)

Evil Alex said:
Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.
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Of course JB needs more power than ICS. As the number of features rises, energy consumption rises accordingly, dampened by how optimised each feature is. I don't expect the same battery life from a more feature-rich ROM.
But, I do dislike it when a newer ROM consumes twice the energy, whilst I do not make use of all the new features. However, it is unfair to compare a stable ROM to any other that still suffers (seemingly) random reboots. A reboot, it seems to me, is a short period of high CPU use. The more often a ROM reboots, the more the battery is drained.
Anyway, I just want a stable PAC-man 4.3. I voted for LiteROM, because it is has insane battery-life, more than I need(hence my desire for a more stable 4.3 PAC). I think the votes to this poll will reflect with which ROM people are most satisfied with. And I think their satisfaction is strongly related to how stable it is, which I think is inversely related to how much work there is left to do. Which is related to the work required in maintaining it.
Having said all this, I should mention how grateful I am to all developers. Development is no easy task, and not too often a rewarding one either. Dealing with users that just want stuff and expect it to be done yesterday seems very demotivating to me, so I really appreciate all the work done by the developers here. Including you, bubor!
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Evil Alex said:
Of course JB needs more power than ICS. As the number of features rises, energy consumption rises accordingly, dampened by how optimised each feature is. I don't expect the same battery life from a more feature-rich ROM.
But, I do dislike it when a newer ROM consumes twice the energy, whilst I do not make use of all the new features. However, it is unfair to compare a stable ROM to any other that still suffers (seemingly) random reboots. A reboot, it seems to me, is a short period of high CPU use. The more often a ROM reboots, the more the battery is drained.
Anyway, I just want a stable PAC-man 4.3. I voted for LiteROM, because it is has insane battery-life, more than I need(hence my desire for a more stable 4.3 PAC). I think the votes to this poll will reflect with which ROM people are most satisfied with. And I think their satisfaction is strongly related to how stable it is, which I think is inversely related to how much work there is left to do. Which is related to the work required in maintaining it.
Having said all this, I should mention how grateful I am to all developers. Development is no easy task, and not too often a rewarding one either. Dealing with users that just want stuff and expect it to be done yesterday seems very demotivating to me, so I really appreciate all the work done by the developers here. Including you, bubor!
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Actually newer roms uses less cpu, and roms are faster.
Of corse I want to get official android 4.4 from google to i927 We have too few users, and they are seperate to diffrent roms, what makes much more harder to go forward.
Literom has litkernel, right? Litekernel has many power drain improve, but it costs many issue too ( broken wifi tethering, long wake etc)
Anyway you can use litekernel with newer roms with all its feature.

Did I just catch you contradicting yourself...? You can't say newer ROMs use more CPU (due to being more feature-rich), and then turn around and say newer ROMs use less CPU and are faster. Which is it? I'm thoroughly confused, now... It doesn't really matter, not the point.
Anyway, since you're the developer, I'd say it's your call. Most users here basically want the same: Something post-ICS, as stable as possible, and preferably as close as possible to the latest and greatest.
So, if you decide to focus on that and ditch the rest, I think you'll still have plenty of users willing to test whichever ROM you choose. Of course, people will whine about their ROM not being chosen, but that is unavoidable.
I'll stop now, it's getting way off-topic
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Evil Alex said:
You can't say newer ROMs use more CPU (due to being more feature-rich)
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You really misunderstand me, never said that. MAybe I wasnt clear enought. Dont expect same performance between Feature rich and clean rom, but same services are faster in 4.3.
You shouldnt post like this, its not forward at all. You just troll that topic, what is made to search Interesting. I see, you enjoy troll better then work for solution.
I dont wanna waste you time, I stop here too.

Bubor,I use your cm 10.2 latest and haven't had any problems with it at all!(well one no way to turn on hotword detection on Google now)not a biggie though
I know it would probably be a hard task but hope to see a kitkat rom on our captivate I think it would run great!

please vote if you didnt do yet.

i'm on the offical pacman but i will change soon to cm10.2 or back to literom if i don't have a choice.
but if you want to focus on one or two roms, i think you should focus of cm10.2 and omnirom 4.4, i will flash eiter one as long its stable enugh.

[Q] Questions from possible future Note2 owner

Hey folks!
Been a long user of Xperia Arc S (2011, official updates never got past crappy 4.0.4), now it is time to upgrade. I was looking at something in medium price range, Note 2 caught my eye. The Development section appears to have great activity as well, so guess this phone does sure have some after-market worthness. Still I thought to ask you, how happy are you with your devices.
First, if I am actually going to buy this phone, is there any difference between the colors? Do the materials differ? Is the grey one also more fingerprint and dirt prone than the white one?
How powerful are the CPU and GPU on the phone? Can these take some stress or are they under continuous pressure by the firmware? By that I mean, how well is the firmware optimized? How many user apps can the phone run in addition to system apps before I should start rooting and throwing out some unnecessary crap? Or should I directly move to a custom ROM (might want to explain regarding the counters and official firmware issues)?
Looking in the General section, I see the Android 4.3 update has brought many negative emotions to the forum due to missing features and worse user experience. As I checked from my operator, the phone is sold with 4.1.2 on it. Is it worth to upgrade to 4.3 (I wonder if the update has any major positive sides as well)?
I have played around a lot with ROMs and kernels and basebands and stuff on Xperia models, but I am completely new to the Samsung world of smartphones, thereby any kind of feedback (I won't mind critism either ) is certainly welcome.
That's it for now, I will shoot more questions once I get some!

Hi and welcome,
I love my Note II and had it since Feb 13. It is still fast and does everything. I even love the 4.3 update ,though I'm not on stock, bu on Criskelo ROM, it is much more fluid than 4.1.2 and I consider 4.3 a great update. If you look at the forums you will find a lot of poeple have problems with 4.3, but IMHO, much more don't have any problems. There is a topic on "report bugs" for 4.3 and voting and more people say it's stable than that they have problems. From my experience, since Criskelo is almost stock with Note 3 pack and couple of tweaks that you really should have on any rom (and can install manualy) - the battery is the same as on 4.1.2 and the ROM feels more fluid. I don't see why STOCK one wouldn't feel faster too.
There is some bloat, but that is easily removed, by freezing in Titanium backup, but most of the apps Samsung packs in TW ROMs are useful, IMHO. All sw for S-Pen, multiwindow, Find my phone service (really useful!!), etc. If you have Samsung TV - even more useful software So I froze just a couple of apps that I really don't need.
So I'd suggest you flash EITHER pre-rooted de-KNOXed stock, or some custom ROM. I read that DM and Phoenix are great too, but I am so much satisfied with Criskelo that I have doubts I'll be moving anywhere (well, maybe just for a test spin, but after a BACKUP)
So - 1) root, 2) flash custom recovery 3) backup whole ROM to SD card 4) erase+factory reset, 5) flash MJ5 bootloader (KNOX free), and then pick a ROM to flash. They mostly have AROMA installer so are flashed from recovery (custom ROMs, that is). I dunno about stock.
Just stay away from official 4.3 because it has KNOX which can void your warranty or prevent you from changing bootloader etc. Just use MJ5 bootloader, it is a bootloader for 4.3 which doesn't have KNOX.
Also, custom have 1 big adavtage for me - Note 3 software (It is stable!!).
Cheers,
D.

All right, thanks for the answer. Any more feedback?
Also, any recommendations regarding the color of the phone?

Awsome Note II
Note II seems to be one of the most interesting and customizable devices on the market now and thanks to the devs of custom roms you will be surprised how powerful and changeable this phablet is. Even after more than a year it can compete with many new devices.
Touchwiz and its S-Pen-features are unique :good:
Just take a short glimpse around on other devices here on XDA and you will see that there are only a handfull which have similar amount of custom roms and mods.

[Q] ROMs that enhance battery performance?

I recently bought a used Sprint Galaxy S3, it is the SPH-L710 model.
It works great, I like it, I got it rooted with no problem, and got CWM flashed to it and I'm getting ready to flash a ROM.
I've been searching forums and sites for about 2 days for the ROM I want to use.
I'm mainly looking for something that enhances my battery performance, the reason for this is when I first got the phone, I updated it to the 4.4.2 KitKat when I first turned the phone on and the battery life was terrible, like I would charge it to 100% and use it browsing the web for about 10 mins and lose sometimes upwards of 10+% within that 10 minutes.
I searched around and found 2 Apps that I am using right now, one is a battery doctor type thing, the other is an app called Battery Saver (root) it changes some stuff and is supposed to make battery life better, since I have started using these 2 apps my battery life has increased, but it still seems to drain a little fast. So I would like to try and find a ROM that perhaps has tweaked the battery life.
Does anyone have any opinions on battery life for any of the ROMs here that would work for my device, like perhaps which one that you have tried that extended your battery life? I know I could just try them myself, but I am hoping to save a bit of time and see if anyone has some input.
Also another quick question, is there a way to test my battery and see if its just bad? A friend mentioned that the battery could have just gone bad so I'd like to check that if possible.

A. S3s aren't known for their amazing battery life. My battery does not go very far either, talking on the phone, which I do a lot for work, gobbles up the battery immensely. (Like 100% to 80% in 30 minutes.) Web browsing is another battery hog.
B. ROMs are only going to do so much as far as extending your battery life. Just bear in mind -- the lighter the ROM, the less battery it'll likely consume.
You'll do more to save battery by flashing a custom kernel on top of a light ROM that'll allow you undervolt/underclock. But, you want to make sure you flash the correct kernel to the correct ROM base (e.g. Touchwiz kernel for Touchwiz ROMs, AOSP/CM based kernels for AOSP/CM based ROMs).
I personally use the DKP kernel found here in the S3 original development thread.
Be careful w/ underclocking and especially undervolting, as this can cause the phone to freeze up. It's also important to choose a governor that has a nice balance between performance and power savings. (I like the freelunch governor.)
Hope this helps.

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A. S3s aren't known for their amazing battery life. My battery does not go very far either, talking on the phone, which I do a lot for work, gobbles up the battery immensely. (Like 100% to 80% in 30 minutes.) Web browsing is another battery hog.
B. ROMs are only going to do so much as far as extending your battery life. Just bear in mind -- the lighter the ROM, the less battery it'll likely consume.
You'll do more to save battery by flashing a custom kernel on top of a light ROM that'll allow you undervolt/underclock. But, you want to make sure you flash the correct kernel to the correct ROM base (e.g. Touchwiz kernel for Touchwiz ROMs, AOSP/CM based kernels for AOSP/CM based ROMs).
I personally use the DKP kernel found here in the S3 original development thread.
Be careful w/ underclocking and especially undervolting, as this can cause the phone to freeze up. It's also important to choose a governor that has a nice balance between performance and power savings. (I like the freelunch governor.)
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
That gives me an idea of what I should start looking for, and I'll check out the DKP kernel as well..
I just thought of another question I had, maybe you can help me with it too.
Since I'm running Android 4.4.2 on my device, would I need to find a 4.4.2 ROM to flash?
For instance could I use a 4.3.1 ROM on my 4.4.2 device?

vagabond007 said:
Thanks!
That gives me an idea of what I should start looking for, and I'll check out the DKP kernel as well..
I just thought of another question I had, maybe you can help me with it too.
Since I'm running Android 4.4.2 on my device, would I need to find a 4.4.2 ROM to flash?
For instance could I use a 4.3.1 ROM on my 4.4.2 device?
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It doesn't matter which Android version you decide to go with. Just avoid two things:
1. Do not flash an older bootloader than the one you are currently on (e.g. If you are currently on ND8, do not flash any older bootloaders like MK5 or MD4).
2. Do not flash any modems older than the one you're currently on. Your modem version can be found in Settings -->About Phone --> and the last three letter/number combination under "Baseband Version". Hint: The baseband version also tells you which bootloader/ROM you're on.
Doing either of these, will trip Samsung's KNOX security feature, tripping the kill-fuse, and suddenly, you'll have yourself a nice hard brick.
I know that probably sounds intimidating, but I assure you if you avoid those two things, you can flash any D2LTE ROM you please. (D2LTE ROMs will work with the Sprint S3.)

idk man the batter life of my S3 lasts 2 days where my Infuse 4g would last less then one with a new battery.....so by far the best battery life I've had in a while

Higgs_Boson said:
It doesn't matter which Android version you decide to go with. Just avoid two things:
1. Do not flash an older bootloader than the one you are currently on (e.g. If you are currently on ND8, do not flash any older bootloaders like MK5 or MD4).
2. Do not flash any modems older than the one you're currently on. Your modem version can be found in Settings -->About Phone --> and the last three letter/number combination under "Baseband Version". Hint: The baseband version also tells you which bootloader/ROM you're on.
Doing either of these, will trip Samsung's KNOX security feature, tripping the kill-fuse, and suddenly, you'll have yourself a nice hard brick.
I know that probably sounds intimidating, but I assure you if you avoid those two things, you can flash any D2LTE ROM you please. (D2LTE ROMs will work with the Sprint S3.)
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Wew! Thanks for that info, you may have saved me from a terrible mistake lol.
One of the ROMs I was looking at was using the MD4 bootloader, so that would have been a no-no xD
Thanks a lot for all your help, I learned a few things from it, epspecially about the bootloaders and modems having to match, I had no idea about that. Now that I know that, it opens up a few more possibilities for ROMs I can use!

vagabond007 said:
Wew! Thanks for that info, you may have saved me from a terrible mistake lol.
One of the ROMs I was looking at was using the MD4 bootloader, so that would have been a no-no xD
Thanks a lot for all your help, I learned a few things from it, epspecially about the bootloaders and modems having to match, I had no idea about that. Now that I know that, it opens up a few more possibilities for ROMs I can use!
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Fun fact: The bootloaders and modems didn't always have to match.
Samsung wanted to be able to market their devices to business entities, and in order to do that, they developed the KNOX security feature.
Once it's on your phone, it's not coming off. It matters to corporate security policy people, because they want devices that aren't going to be compromised if someone tampers with them.
And, as you can see, the wrong kind of tampering makes the phone completely unusable and unrecoverable.

Higgs_Boson said:
Fun fact: The bootloaders and modems didn't always have to match.
Samsung wanted to be able to market their devices to business entities, and in order to do that, they developed the KNOX security feature.
Once it's on your phone, it's not coming off. It matters to corporate security policy people, because they want devices that aren't going to be compromised if someone tampers with them.
And, as you can see, the wrong kind of tampering makes the phone completely unusable and unrecoverable.
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Right now I'm sort of leaning towards LiquidSmooth, Quantam4, or Tribute ROM, still sort of looking around though.
If you don't mind me asking @Higgs_Boson, which ROM are you using?
Also, to the other poster, my mothers GS3 is the same way, hers will last upwards of a day and a half, then again she doesn;t use hers for much, while I'm on mine like a computer lol.

vagabond007 said:
Right now I'm sort of leaning towards LiquidSmooth, Quantam4, or Tribute ROM, still sort of looking around though.
If you don't mind me asking @Higgs_Boson, which ROM are you using?
Also, to the other poster, my mothers GS3 is the same way, hers will last upwards of a day and a half, then again she doesn;t use hers for much, while I'm on mine like a computer lol.
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Right now, I'm on CM11.
I usually switch between two that are my favorites:
CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android.
If you want an all-in-one, there is always PAC-ROM, which includes Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CM all under the same roof. (But then, we get back to that thing about light ROMs.)

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Higgs_Boson said:
Right now, I'm on CM11.
I usually switch between two that are my favorites:
CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android.
If you want an all-in-one, there is always PAC-ROM, which includes Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CM all under the same roof. (But then, we get back to that thing about light ROMs.)
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I completely overlooked CM
Is CM11 compatible with the DKP Kernel you were telling me about?

yep
Yes it is. I'm that combo at the moment

im currently running wicked X 8.0

6th_Hokage said:
im currently running wicked X 8.0
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I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?

jbnorton0524 said:
I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
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personally yes after i replace the system UI with the Stock ND8/NDC one and same with the TW Framework and TWframework-res.apk and use the Stockish theme for it.....i like the stock look what can i say but im using xposed at the same time for little things here and there but if you don't want to replace somethings and want it to work 100% use the PCB theme that it comes with.......but either way its pretty smooth and fast and the battery lasts for 2 days with some gaming and listening to music with viper4android installed and making calls and texting the one thing that i would say drains my battery is watching videos but you'll be satisfied

Wow you arent joking. This is one of the best ive seen lately. Nice.

jbnorton0524 said:
I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
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Wicked X, Tribute and Conquest Singularity are all 3 very good ROMs with pretty fair battery life. As stated, Kernal Settings do make a world of difference! I'm on Singularity with latest KT747 Kernal and love it :]

Cm 11 or paranoid

opinions? Which modern ROM for biz-use on Samsung Note3 hlte/TMobile ?

My ofc has a bunch of Samsung Note3 (hlte/TMobile) phones.
Hardware's still perfectly capable.
I need/want them to be -- as much as possible -- rooted, bloat-free, stable(ish) daily driver, using a well-supported current ROM, can live without themeing whistles-n-bells.
For a long while, that's been CyanogenMod. Even though a 'stable' v12 (Lollipop-based) release never saw the light of day, the nightlies have been generally reliable.
Of late, the situation's changed a bit ...
v12 hasn't seen a nightly since May 8.
There's no official v13 -- nightly or otherwise.
v13 *is* available as a completely unofficial solution on XDA, but afaict, the dev's busy as heck -- and there's only one of him.
Questions asked at the forums re: v13 get snark from the moderators.
Works for some. Not for my situation.
Sooooo, I'm looking for opinions. What hlte-ROM gets me closest to my criteria^? ideally on Marshmallow -- with , at least, a plan for N?
Reading through these forums, my first leaning is to Resurrection.
I will make some time to DL and test a few, of course.
But I'd certainly appreciate some thoughtful comments/suggestions.
Thanks.

Would be interested in this, too.

You're not alone. I plan to use the Note 3 for another year, as you said the hardware is perfectly capable. I'd like to run a stable version of Marshmallow at a minimum. I have the same concerns regarding stability, no bloat, root, etc.

dkranes said:
You're not alone. I plan to use the Note 3 for another year, as you said the hardware is perfectly capable. I'd like to run a stable version of Marshmallow at a minimum. I have the same concerns regarding stability, no bloat, root, etc.
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To be very stable, Lollipop is still the way to go honestly. There are some hardware limitations when concerning Android 6.0+ on the Note 3. But for Marshmallow you could try our Dominion s7 v2.2 ROM. It's in the T-Mobile Note 3 development section. It's Marshmallow 6.0.1 and is stable as the rest of the 6.0+ ROM's. You also retain the S Pen functions unlike something like CM or a purely AOSP ROM. It also has the Screen Off Memo feature from the Note 5.

ludeawakening said:
To be very stable, Lollipop is still the way to go honestly. There are some hardware limitations when concerning Android 6.0+ on the Note 3. But for Marshmallow you could try our Dominion s7 v2.2 ROM. It's in the T-Mobile Note 3 development section. It's Marshmallow 6.0.1 and is stable as the rest of the 6.0+ ROM's. You also retain the S Pen functions unlike something like CM or a purely AOSP ROM. It also has the Screen Off Memo feature from the Note 5.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a shot today.

fyi,
Cyanogen Inc. reportedly fires OS development arm, switches to apps
I'm not holding my breath for ongoing Cyanogenmod development for the Note3 ...

n756gkj said:
fyi,
Cyanogen Inc. reportedly fires OS development arm, switches to apps
I'm not holding my breath for ongoing Cyanogenmod development for the Note3 ...
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If you don't know the difference between cyanogen and cyanogenmod, you have wasted your time in XDA.

googlephone said:
If you don't know the difference between cyanogen and cyanogenmod, you have wasted your time in XDA.
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Ah, the usual irrelevant drivel ... Didn't take long.
> If you don't know the difference between cyanogen and cyanogenmod, you have wasted your time in XDA.
Riiiiight. That's the issue. 'cuz there's NO correlation whatsoever between dev & devs at Cyanogen and Cyanogenmod project, and with the troubles at the Co, there'll be a sudden uptick in dev & support @ Cyangenmod. I'm sure new devs will start flocking to the platform too ...