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Does using wifi drain the battery? Is it better than using the actual 3G or 4G?
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I'm sure someone has a way more technical answer but I would think not. I have no issues with drainage on wifi, as on 2g its on the network constantly and not continually searching for towers.
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Does using wifi drain the battery? Is it better than using the actual 3G or 4G?
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If you are connected to a wifi network, it saved much more battery than using 3 or 4g. However, if you leave wifi on but don't connect to a network, it will drain battery
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ok cool thanks alot man. Idk when I'm home I just like using wifi better, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems faster. Thanks again
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Turning on anything more than necessary will kill your battery faster. Not always by a lot but everything does and wifi wouldn't always be faster because it depends on the wifi's local area connection. Best way to save battery is to go in settings/applications/manage applications the force close anything you don't need running. Make sure you know what it is you're closing or you could run into some problems. If you end up killing a system app and it won't reopen itself, its nothing a reboot won't fix.
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Turning on anything more than necessary will kill your battery faster. Not always by a lot but everything does and wifi wouldn't always be faster because it depends on the wifi's local area connection. Best way to save battery is to go in settings/applications/manage applications the force close anything you don't need running. Make sure you know what it is you're closing or you could run into some problems. If you end up killing a system app and it won't reopen itself, its nothing a reboot won't fix.
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DO NOT DO THIS.
Android has its own automatic task management system, and its best if you just let it do what it does best: manage on its own.
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Well gee I do it all the time and it works fine. If it wasn't intended to be used I don't think it would come without root permissions and anyone who isn't an idiot will realize that force closing android system will cause problems. But if you wanna suggest a task manager that doesn't actually kill apps and adds some bloat ware, be my guest.
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Well gee I do it all the time and it works fine. If it wasn't intended to be used I don't think it would come without root permissions and anyone who isn't an idiot will realize that force closing android system will cause problems. But if you wanna suggest a task manager that doesn't actually kill apps and adds some bloat ware, be my guest.
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He's not going to recommend another task manager/killer, because Android already does it by itself. Plus, killing a task that is not finished just causes it to respawn. Task killers are unnecessary, and may actually hurt performance and battery life.
Its explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849974&highlight=task+killer
I agree that it's best to let Android clean it's own house normally, however I'm getting a little bit jarred off with certain apps starting themselves up at boot-time.
Paypal app for some reason has installed a service on my phone, despite the fact I've never even logged into it and I can't see why it would need a service running all the time.
Also since the latest Google Maps upgrade there seems to be something under my running tasks called Rate Places. I've not used the check-in service on GMaps at all, nor will I ever.
As well as this, since I've been running a modded CM ROM (SparksMod Extra Hot Sauce) then I constantly have Wi-Fi Calling running - again this is useless to me cos I'm not on TMob US.
Any suggestions for a decent app which can stop all these things running before they ever start, and keep them stopped?
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I agree that it's best to let Android clean it's own house normally, however I'm getting a little bit jarred off with certain apps starting themselves up at boot-time.
Paypal app for some reason has installed a service on my phone, despite the fact I've never even logged into it and I can't see why it would need a service running all the time.
Also since the latest Google Maps upgrade there seems to be something under my running tasks called Rate Places. I've not used the check-in service on GMaps at all, nor will I ever.
As well as this, since I've been running a modded CM ROM (SparksMod Extra Hot Sauce) then I constantly have Wi-Fi Calling running - again this is useless to me cos I'm not on TMob US.
Any suggestions for a decent app which can stop all these things running before they ever start, and keep them stopped?
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Try "Autorun Manager"
I use it, but SOME apps will auto-restart. I think you need the Pay version of Autorun Manager to prevent those from re-launching.
I use the free version, and it gets rid of some of the problem.
WiFi is definitely causing massive battery drain on my G2 with CM6.1.1. I leave it on at night, and if I have 50% when I go to sleep, I'm down to 3% in the morning. Without doing anything.
I'm not quite sure why this is happening, but it is, and it sucks. I can't go back on 3G/4G right now because I'm at just about 4.8GB, and I don't want to go over my 5GB soft cap.
I wish I knew why WiFi was causing such battery drain...
Do you have anything updating automatically (Email, facebook, etc)? That would be my best guess. I leave wifi on when I'm at home and it isn't that bad at all. Also, I'm sure theres an app out there to let you see what is using the wifi for updates and such. I just don't know of one off the top of my head. I have an app like that for 3G data but it doesn't do wifi.
I just went through every one of my apps to make sure that nothing is set to sync, except Google Voice and Email. My battery is at 50% right now, so we'll see what it's at tomorrow morning.
As you can see from the screenshot, WiFi is using quite a bit of battery. I'm not sure why, but hopefully soon (after some testing) I'll have my answer.
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Yup, 2 nights in a row, my battery has gone from 40% to dead, simply from sitting on my night stand. I wonder if this is why T-Mobile discontinued the G2... because they knew it would have battery issues, and they didn't want to deal with serving warranties? Hmmm...
Its a bit of a leap of logic to link your personal battery issue with T-Mob discontinuing the phone. T-Mob has a good number of Android phones coming out in the near future, with T-Mob really ramping up their support of Android devices. So its been very reasonably speculated that they are discontinuing the G2 in order to make room in their lineup (and stockrooms, etc.) for the new phones.
I get a full day of moderate usage on my Vision, and can get close to 2 days with low usage. That's very typical for a modern smartphone. I usually get in the range of 2-3% battery drain per hour when the phone is idle. And that's with WiFi always on (even when not connected to a WiFi network) and auto sync of Gmail and HTC stock and weather apps. You haven't mentioned how long "overnight" is exactly, but I'll assume 8 hours or so. So your phone draining from 40% to dead overnight seems unusual. WiFi typically uses less battery then the cell data network, when WiFi is available. I suspect there is something else going on, besides just being on WiFi. If the cell reception is dodgey in your area (or fringe 3G reception), this might run the battery down (even if you are on WiFi) as the phone is constantly searching for signal. Or your radio may be mismatched to your custom ROM. Or you may just have a bad battery. Also, was the battery drain any different when you were on the stock or other custom ROMs? I personally haven't witnessed the battery drain to be significantly different across the ROMs I've tried. But that seems to vary, as there often seem to be people complaining about this or that ROM causing more battery drain.
The reason I thought it might be a hardware defect issue is that my wife and I got G2's at the same time. I rooted mine and have been running CM6.1.1 for a few months now, and my wife has kept hers stock. However, the battery issue hit both our phones at almost the exact same time.
It sounds ridiculous, but conspiracy theories are fun to play with. The fact that I've been rooted so long, and it JUST happened weirds me out. Add my wife's phone to the equation, and it's even weirder. I kept my phone on WiFi and 2G networks only last night (yeah, about 8 hours), and the exact same thing happened.
Maybe I should just get a new battery, I don't know. But I do religiously delete apps I don't use and make sure the ones I do use are syncing as minimally as possible.
Every since Verizon pushed the Lollipop update to my N4, my "Mobile Data" turns back on all by itself after it has been disabled. It even turns back on when I am connected to wifi.
Has anyone else experienced this and if so can you please explain how I may fix this.
Thanks in advance.
Not exactly that but I have noticed that now I'm always on 3g when I'm usually on 4G all day long same area this is crazy
Mine is also randomly turning on Mobile Data too after the Lollipop update. I have a small data allotment with VZW, this could send me into overages.
I seen on one thread, searching through your downloaded apps to find out which ones have "change network connectivity" in the permissions. I happen to have 6 of them. Some you can disable, but it removes the updates, other you cant disable without removing it.
Another recommendation was hitting settings from the pull down menu, wifi, advanced, then uncheck the "smart network switch". Mine wasn't checked to begin with, so I'm out of ideas til I start removing apps one by one...
The data has been turning on by itself during sleep time on my Note 4. It caused the phone to use 500mb of data in one nite. My data is always off, wifi is only on when using the phone otherwise it's off too. I called Verizon and they have no clue. This is my 2nd new Note 4 for myself & my wife, nothing but problems. Think we are going to switch to anything other than a Samsung phone.
Well, I've systematically removed all 6 apps one at a time. The Youtube and Facebook apps, I was only able to disable them instead of removing them completely. In the end, the phone still turns on Mobile Data by itself. This must be something internal with Lollipop. I have a small data allowance and I'm afraid its going to go over simply because it wont stay OFF even with WiFi available!!
I would call customer service and have them ship you out a replacement. This is our 3rd phone and hopefully it will work as it should. Good luck
Outcast,
I've had my Note4 since it was released in November. It didn't have this problem with 4.4 Kitkat. It's something new with Lollipop and I doubt a new phone would solve this problem, could be wrong.
How involved is it to go back to Kitkat?
I'm not chancing voiding my warranty. They replaced my phones by them and not by request. Our phones get hot and get a warning then shuts down, apps close constantly and the phones consistently reboot on their own. Then the data turning on by itself. The other problems I don't think are software based but hardware failures. The data can very well be software related.
wifiwizard said:
Every since Verizon pushed the Lollipop update to my N4, my "Mobile Data" turns back on all by itself after it has been disabled. It even turns back on when I am connected to wifi.
Has anyone else experienced this and if so can you please explain how I may fix this.
Thanks in advance.
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I have the same problem and i used up so much of my data when i am at home where the wifi connects automatically on everything else. On kit kat this never happened and i am attempting a downgrade so you might want to try that.
I was having the same problem with mine. I also live on the edge of 4g area, so it was constantly swapping between 3g and 4g. In addition to using some data it was killing my battery swapping between 3g and 4g. Using almost 10% per hour when not being used. I disabled most of the verizon stuff, support and protection, Verizon navigator, caller name id, message+, and verizon location. I turned off facebook location reporting in the app settings, and disabled google location. I did all these a couple at a time and would reboot to see if it fixed the problem and after all those were done i rebooted and wiped the cache and the prblem was gone. I turned google location back on so far and its still working the way it is supposed to. It shows a greyed out 3g symbol and my battery life is much better. My phone sat off the charger all night and only dropped 4% and in 5 hours of moderate use its down to 77% left. Wish i knew exactly which app was causing the problem to help you out better but hopefully you can try those apps and settings and get the same results.
Well it worked for about 3 days, but this morning data and wifi were both running again.
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Been having the same problem even when I disconnect data ten or fifteen minutes later data is back on. And I've noticed even if I am connected to Wi-Fi data trumps it and I end up using a ton of DATA when I've been connected to Wi-Fi all day, getting seriously upset cause I never used this much data before.
I have same problem with my Note3 running Lollipop. Have tried every suggestion I can find to turn off data, but it is still runs, unless I am on wifi. Data is set to off, 4g symbol in notification bar is greyed out, but data is still on. I have found forums all over the Web with other people with this problem, but no solution yet. My phone is unlocked but not rooted.
Hello all!
Here's some back story. I busted the screen on my trusty VM SPH-L710 the day before I had to go travel for work. I hastily ran into the nearest wallmart and bought what I thought was a replacement not knowing it was a tri-band model or that the Data Done Right junk was any different. Two hours of phone calls with VM later I have a working stock, bloatware filled, janky phone...I immediately rooted it and installed an OctOS rom on it....again not knowing the Data Done Right phones are any different than any other SPH-L710 phones.
So this is the state I'm in now:
I have a beautifully running phone with both the OctOS 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 builds.
The 6.0.1 build I have working cell and mms. No data at all.
The 5.1.1 build I have working cell, mms, and 3G. No LTE at all and the 3G is a little flakey if you don't have it set to 3G for the network type.
My stock backup restores and the phone appears to have LTE....but it also seems to be missing all of the apps, constantly says random things have stopped, eventually locks up and wont boot a second time. Basically my backup isn't any good.
I've spent the last few days searching around and I can't seem to find any good info on the Data Done Right S3. I haven't even really found anyone else posting anything about doing the same thing I've done and ending up in this state. So this is kind of a shot in the dark looking for any info or help.
What would be super awesome is a stock VM DDR rom that I can restore to at least get back to that...then I'll just give the phone to my sister or something (yes I think the stock phone is that bad).
What would be even better is some knowledge on how to get one of the other SPH-L710T roms to work with the DDR plan.
What would be sad is if I have to tear the screen off this phone to get my old SPH-L710 working again (I'm just assuming the screens are the same) and see if I can move my account back to a regular VM plan.
Thanks for any help.
Me too!
I have the exact same issue. As of 6.0.1 it's no longer possible to use OctOS (data is down completely).
I am on 5.1.1 for the forseeable. The data is a little slower but that's not a big deal for me since I can rarely get 4G anyway, and the phone is soooo much better without bloat. I tried applying the Universal 4G APN fix (AndroidForums has it), but no love there either.
If you find anything out please share! I would love to have data/LTE working on a newer OctOS.
Ive used 6.0.1 on refresh on vm, freedom pop and my datas fine
some_guy_520 said:
Hello all!
Here's some back story. I busted the screen on my trusty VM SPH-L710 the day before I had to go travel for work. I hastily ran into the nearest wallmart and bought what I thought was a replacement not knowing it was a tri-band model or that the Data Done Right junk was any different. Two hours of phone calls with VM later I have a working stock, bloatware filled, janky phone...I immediately rooted it and installed an OctOS rom on it....again not knowing the Data Done Right phones are any different than any other SPH-L710 phones.
So this is the state I'm in now:
I have a beautifully running phone with both the OctOS 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 builds.
The 6.0.1 build I have working cell and mms. No data at all.
The 5.1.1 build I have working cell, mms, and 3G. No LTE at all and the 3G is a little flakey if you don't have it set to 3G for the network type.
My stock backup restores and the phone appears to have LTE....but it also seems to be missing all of the apps, constantly says random things have stopped, eventually locks up and wont boot a second time. Basically my backup isn't any good.
I've spent the last few days searching around and I can't seem to find any good info on the Data Done Right S3. I haven't even really found anyone else posting anything about doing the same thing I've done and ending up in this state. So this is kind of a shot in the dark looking for any info or help.
What would be super awesome is a stock VM DDR rom that I can restore to at least get back to that...then I'll just give the phone to my sister or something (yes I think the stock phone is that bad).
What would be even better is some knowledge on how to get one of the other SPH-L710T roms to work with the DDR plan.
What would be sad is if I have to tear the screen off this phone to get my old SPH-L710 working again (I'm just assuming the screens are the same) and see if I can move my account back to a regular VM plan.
Thanks for any help.
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some_guy_520: Any chance you could post the DDR apk? (Data Done Right)
Yes please post the DDR apk I flashed a new ROM on my s5 now I can't get service without it.
some_guy_520 said:
Hello all!
Here's some back story. I busted the screen on my trusty VM SPH-L710 the day before I had to go travel for work. I hastily ran into the nearest wallmart and bought what I thought was a replacement not knowing it was a tri-band model or that the Data Done Right junk was any different. Two hours of phone calls with VM later I have a working stock, bloatware filled, janky phone...I immediately rooted it and installed an OctOS rom on it....again not knowing the Data Done Right phones are any different than any other SPH-L710 phones.
So this is the state I'm in now:
I have a beautifully running phone with both the OctOS 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 builds.
The 6.0.1 build I have working cell and mms. No data at all.
The 5.1.1 build I have working cell, mms, and 3G. No LTE at all and the 3G is a little flakey if you don't have it set to 3G for the network type.
My stock backup restores and the phone appears to have LTE....but it also seems to be missing all of the apps, constantly says random things have stopped, eventually locks up and wont boot a second time. Basically my backup isn't any good.
I've spent the last few days searching around and I can't seem to find any good info on the Data Done Right S3. I haven't even really found anyone else posting anything about doing the same thing I've done and ending up in this state. So this is kind of a shot in the dark looking for any info or help.
What would be super awesome is a stock VM DDR rom that I can restore to at least get back to that...then I'll just give the phone to my sister or something (yes I think the stock phone is that bad).
What would be even better is some knowledge on how to get one of the other SPH-L710T roms to work with the DDR plan.
What would be sad is if I have to tear the screen off this phone to get my old SPH-L710 working again (I'm just assuming the screens are the same) and see if I can move my account back to a regular VM plan.
Thanks for any help.
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Have you tried changing the APN to DDR's Vm's APN?
While I might not have the Samsung Galsxy S3 Data Done Right as you do, I have a Moto G3 and for me to have perfect service (LTE, and 3G fallback) on a custom CDMA ROM its only a matter of me adding the correct APN to the APN settings.
Hello,
I've noticed horrible performance on my phone in the last few days. I did an upgrade to 5.1.1 in January and then a Factory Reset. Things have been much much better on the phone since. The last few days I've noticed some strange behavior. I've had to reboot a lot and it's been sluggish. I'm having trouble installing apps as well.
What worries me the most is that Google Books used .73 GB today alone and AccuWeather used .6 GB in about a day as well. Any idea of what's causing all of this? I don't wanna blow through my data - it's early in my cycle as well. This has never happened.
bumperjeep said:
Hello,
I've noticed horrible performance on my phone in the last few days. I did an upgrade to 5.1.1 in January and then a Factory Reset. Things have been much much better on the phone since. The last few days I've noticed some strange behavior. I've had to reboot a lot and it's been sluggish. I'm having trouble installing apps as well.
What worries me the most is that Google Books used .73 GB today alone and AccuWeather used .6 GB in about a day as well. Any idea of what's causing all of this? I don't wanna blow through my data - it's early in my cycle as well. This has never happened.
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I thought that the issue was with my phone but I've encountered the same issue as well.
Since I updated my note 4 to 5.1.1 my data has spiked.
My data connection has always been h+ but after the update I started to get 4G LTE speeds. Now in a matter of 2 days of normal usage I'm on 3gb used data. I just restrict background data and use lots of wifi to safe data
Do you have problems with data connection falling while making a phone call.? Every time I make a call I get a msg saying no data connection!
I'm also also seeing insane data usage patterns with android OS background. Each month more that 10GB use. 26.5GB this month alone. I've taken out all bloatware I do not use, and replaced most original apps. All apps I do use, are clearly listed. My Android 5.0.2 tablet uses more data than my gaming system and workstation combined. 17GB last month also. Always background use, usually in large blocks. This is like the svhost issues on windows. Are there any apps that parse the modules and connections the background Android system uses, on a non-rooted device? Apps that can break it down? The system logs seem to reveal nothing. I hope Google is not running some sort of distributed computing app in the background. Someone must know what this is, without making wild guesses.
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Not sure if anyone is even reading posts on the Note 8 but here goes
I've had this phone for a few years. It was running stock Android 9. I have the base unlimited plan from Verizon on this phone which means no tethering. So I thought.... I'm in the market for a new phone so if I brick this one, no big deal. I read that once rooted, you could enable tethering with any unlimited plan so after some Googling, I found a site that walked me through installing a rooted copy of Nougat.
Once it was on there, I was able to enable tethering and I attached my kid's iPad and away she went..............at 0.20Mbps. I remember a LONG time ago that you could bypass this artificial speed limit on tethered devices by messing with the DUN/TTL stuff but I think Verizon caught onto that. Then I tried a NetShare and PdaNet and while they DID solve the speed problem, some apps on the iPad (Roblox for example) give me a network error (guess it doesn't like going through a proxy that those 2 apps set up?). I also read that using a VPN connection can solve this problem too but a friend of mine messed with VPN stuff on his phone and I just remember him complaining about connection problems with apps from time to time so I'm trying to avoid that scenario.
At this point, I'm thinking about just going back to Pie and using NetShare and telling my kid that only YouTube will work when tethering unless somebody can point me to some settings I can mess with, now that I have root access, to speed up a tethered device.
TLDR: With my fancy root access, can anything be done to speed up a tethered device THAT DOES NOT involve having to mess with buying a VPN account?
PS I can't help but feel Verizon is intentionally slowing down my network speed on this old Android phone. In the 2 years I've been using my Note 8, surfing the internet on 4GLTE has gotten noticeably slower as time goes on. My speed tests always come back around 5Mbps and my wife's iPhone 11 (or 12?) FLIES when she's surfing the internet.