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tmobile windows update

ok....i had the 6.5 update that was accidently leaked out on my phone. things i experienced with it.
battery life was short
keyboard pops up when new txt is rcvd - very annoying
constant erros about data connection
backlight stays on for a long time when phone is not used
very bad lag
so...tmobile finally put the actual release out on their site about the update. i installed that yesterday. phone seems fine and not doing any of the above.
but i noticed that i am unable to get certain apps that i use to have on there to work. it would look like it is starting up but then it doesn't.
i really want to use these apps on my phone. does anyone know why i am unable to?
xda wifi connection app
wm longlife app
thanks in advance!

knote said:
ok....i had the 6.5 update that was accidently leaked out on my phone. things i experienced with it.
battery life was short
keyboard pops up when new txt is rcvd - very annoying
constant erros about data connection
backlight stays on for a long time when phone is not used
very bad lag
so...tmobile finally put the actual release out on their site about the update. i installed that yesterday. phone seems fine and not doing any of the above.
but i noticed that i am unable to get certain apps that i use to have on there to work. it would look like it is starting up but then it doesn't.
i really want to use these apps on my phone. does anyone know why i am unable to?
xda wifi connection app
wm longlife app
thanks in advance!
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Last I saw the T-Mobile update was exactly the same as the leaked one... So the problems you are experiencing are odd???? I still have the leaked Rom and it works fine without the issues you describe. The Only time my battery life is shortened is when using the internet features and/or leave the screen on... for example I left wifi sharing on the other day... I was at 50% 2 hours later... so I turned it off, 10 hours later I was at 30% not too bad!

Labarum said:
Last I saw the T-Mobile update was exactly the same as the leaked one... So the problems you are experiencing are odd???? I still have the leaked Rom and it works fine without the issues you describe. The Only time my battery life is shortened is when using the internet features and/or leave the screen on... for example I left wifi sharing on the other day... I was at 50% 2 hours later... so I turned it off, 10 hours later I was at 30% not too bad!
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Yes I believe it's been confirmed that the "leaked" T-mo upgrade ROM was bit-for-bit identical to the final (official) release, verified by matching checksums.
However, when the upgrade was first making the rounds here, there were numerous reports of odd issues that would pop up for people after the initial flashing of the ROM...and the solution was just to re-flash it again. Amazingly, doing a 2nd flash of the same ROM seemed to clear up quite a few of the oddball problems that people were seeing.
I'm afraid though I don't have any idea why those last 2 apps aren't working for you following the upgrade...?

Woah, warning about WMLongLife...
It F*CKED up my 3G connection bad. It wouldn't automatically switch to 3G when I was coming into a 3G area from a GPRS/EDGE area and it was almost impossible to get the original setting back. I'd stay far away from that app if I was you.
The other app, I'm not familiar with. Where is the original post of that?

Should my phone always be communicating via 3g?

Even when my phone is 'idle' it seems to be communicating over 3g. Is is normal or is there something I can do, I'm looking to tweak my phone to optimize battery life.
I've already gone through the guide telling me how to optimize my battery. Does anyone have any additional tips on how to optimize battery? Thanks in advance.

Did you shut off autosync for the Facebook for HTC Sense? Seems that thing keeps trying to update I noticed that mine was running like crazy until I shut that off.

I was having same issue and found that the people app was causing data usage. After I killed it data stopped, app still runs fine when launched but seems to only happen on first boot.
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I'm having the same issue, i used 300mb of data today and i really didn't even use my phone all that often. I have fresh .3 and full root with nand unlocked. Now is there an app that will monitor bandwidth usage s o i can see which app is chewing my bandwidth? As odd as it seams i think this is just a bug, i tried to capture data use when the 3g data lite was on but it showed minimal (under 60kb in 30 min)usage, its really kind of strange. for now i just turned off data.
On another note, I'm noticing something very very odd with my phone... even after i kill WIFI tethering app my pc is still connected and i can still use data, its odd.

Does wifi kill battery faster?

Does using wifi drain the battery? Is it better than using the actual 3G or 4G?
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I'm sure someone has a way more technical answer but I would think not. I have no issues with drainage on wifi, as on 2g its on the network constantly and not continually searching for towers.
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jeremyt727 said:
Does using wifi drain the battery? Is it better than using the actual 3G or 4G?
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If you are connected to a wifi network, it saved much more battery than using 3 or 4g. However, if you leave wifi on but don't connect to a network, it will drain battery
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ok cool thanks alot man. Idk when I'm home I just like using wifi better, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems faster. Thanks again
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Turning on anything more than necessary will kill your battery faster. Not always by a lot but everything does and wifi wouldn't always be faster because it depends on the wifi's local area connection. Best way to save battery is to go in settings/applications/manage applications the force close anything you don't need running. Make sure you know what it is you're closing or you could run into some problems. If you end up killing a system app and it won't reopen itself, its nothing a reboot won't fix.

dietotherhythm said:
Turning on anything more than necessary will kill your battery faster. Not always by a lot but everything does and wifi wouldn't always be faster because it depends on the wifi's local area connection. Best way to save battery is to go in settings/applications/manage applications the force close anything you don't need running. Make sure you know what it is you're closing or you could run into some problems. If you end up killing a system app and it won't reopen itself, its nothing a reboot won't fix.
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DO NOT DO THIS.
Android has its own automatic task management system, and its best if you just let it do what it does best: manage on its own.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

Well gee I do it all the time and it works fine. If it wasn't intended to be used I don't think it would come without root permissions and anyone who isn't an idiot will realize that force closing android system will cause problems. But if you wanna suggest a task manager that doesn't actually kill apps and adds some bloat ware, be my guest.

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Well gee I do it all the time and it works fine. If it wasn't intended to be used I don't think it would come without root permissions and anyone who isn't an idiot will realize that force closing android system will cause problems. But if you wanna suggest a task manager that doesn't actually kill apps and adds some bloat ware, be my guest.
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He's not going to recommend another task manager/killer, because Android already does it by itself. Plus, killing a task that is not finished just causes it to respawn. Task killers are unnecessary, and may actually hurt performance and battery life.
Its explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849974&highlight=task+killer

I agree that it's best to let Android clean it's own house normally, however I'm getting a little bit jarred off with certain apps starting themselves up at boot-time.
Paypal app for some reason has installed a service on my phone, despite the fact I've never even logged into it and I can't see why it would need a service running all the time.
Also since the latest Google Maps upgrade there seems to be something under my running tasks called Rate Places. I've not used the check-in service on GMaps at all, nor will I ever.
As well as this, since I've been running a modded CM ROM (SparksMod Extra Hot Sauce) then I constantly have Wi-Fi Calling running - again this is useless to me cos I'm not on TMob US.
Any suggestions for a decent app which can stop all these things running before they ever start, and keep them stopped?

setspeed said:
I agree that it's best to let Android clean it's own house normally, however I'm getting a little bit jarred off with certain apps starting themselves up at boot-time.
Paypal app for some reason has installed a service on my phone, despite the fact I've never even logged into it and I can't see why it would need a service running all the time.
Also since the latest Google Maps upgrade there seems to be something under my running tasks called Rate Places. I've not used the check-in service on GMaps at all, nor will I ever.
As well as this, since I've been running a modded CM ROM (SparksMod Extra Hot Sauce) then I constantly have Wi-Fi Calling running - again this is useless to me cos I'm not on TMob US.
Any suggestions for a decent app which can stop all these things running before they ever start, and keep them stopped?
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Try "Autorun Manager"
I use it, but SOME apps will auto-restart. I think you need the Pay version of Autorun Manager to prevent those from re-launching.
I use the free version, and it gets rid of some of the problem.

WiFi is definitely causing massive battery drain on my G2 with CM6.1.1. I leave it on at night, and if I have 50% when I go to sleep, I'm down to 3% in the morning. Without doing anything.
I'm not quite sure why this is happening, but it is, and it sucks. I can't go back on 3G/4G right now because I'm at just about 4.8GB, and I don't want to go over my 5GB soft cap.
I wish I knew why WiFi was causing such battery drain...

Do you have anything updating automatically (Email, facebook, etc)? That would be my best guess. I leave wifi on when I'm at home and it isn't that bad at all. Also, I'm sure theres an app out there to let you see what is using the wifi for updates and such. I just don't know of one off the top of my head. I have an app like that for 3G data but it doesn't do wifi.

I just went through every one of my apps to make sure that nothing is set to sync, except Google Voice and Email. My battery is at 50% right now, so we'll see what it's at tomorrow morning.
As you can see from the screenshot, WiFi is using quite a bit of battery. I'm not sure why, but hopefully soon (after some testing) I'll have my answer.
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Yup, 2 nights in a row, my battery has gone from 40% to dead, simply from sitting on my night stand. I wonder if this is why T-Mobile discontinued the G2... because they knew it would have battery issues, and they didn't want to deal with serving warranties? Hmmm...

Its a bit of a leap of logic to link your personal battery issue with T-Mob discontinuing the phone. T-Mob has a good number of Android phones coming out in the near future, with T-Mob really ramping up their support of Android devices. So its been very reasonably speculated that they are discontinuing the G2 in order to make room in their lineup (and stockrooms, etc.) for the new phones.
I get a full day of moderate usage on my Vision, and can get close to 2 days with low usage. That's very typical for a modern smartphone. I usually get in the range of 2-3% battery drain per hour when the phone is idle. And that's with WiFi always on (even when not connected to a WiFi network) and auto sync of Gmail and HTC stock and weather apps. You haven't mentioned how long "overnight" is exactly, but I'll assume 8 hours or so. So your phone draining from 40% to dead overnight seems unusual. WiFi typically uses less battery then the cell data network, when WiFi is available. I suspect there is something else going on, besides just being on WiFi. If the cell reception is dodgey in your area (or fringe 3G reception), this might run the battery down (even if you are on WiFi) as the phone is constantly searching for signal. Or your radio may be mismatched to your custom ROM. Or you may just have a bad battery. Also, was the battery drain any different when you were on the stock or other custom ROMs? I personally haven't witnessed the battery drain to be significantly different across the ROMs I've tried. But that seems to vary, as there often seem to be people complaining about this or that ROM causing more battery drain.

The reason I thought it might be a hardware defect issue is that my wife and I got G2's at the same time. I rooted mine and have been running CM6.1.1 for a few months now, and my wife has kept hers stock. However, the battery issue hit both our phones at almost the exact same time.
It sounds ridiculous, but conspiracy theories are fun to play with. The fact that I've been rooted so long, and it JUST happened weirds me out. Add my wife's phone to the equation, and it's even weirder. I kept my phone on WiFi and 2G networks only last night (yeah, about 8 hours), and the exact same thing happened.
Maybe I should just get a new battery, I don't know. But I do religiously delete apps I don't use and make sure the ones I do use are syncing as minimally as possible.

Unknown mobile data usage

Hey all,
I have a 32gb quite black pixel xl (rooted)
running 7.1.1 NMF26U
all my apps/photo uploads are set to wifi only, however over the course of a morning "Android OS" chewed up 5.7GB making me owe my carrier $40 (disputing it with them atm)
I havent installed anything recently, especially anything that needs root access, i really only have it rooted for adaway.
Here is some screenshots of my mobile data usage, i really have no idea what couls have chewed it up, its the first time any android phone has done this to me.
https://imgur.com/gallery/V5FHM
been running off wifi for a few days now, afraid to turn on mobile data, can anyone deduce what could have caused this? i can provide more information if the screens arent enough to go by.

General Mobile network's high battery usage

Hello everyone,
I hope all the pixel 6 pro owners are not suffering from high blood pressure lol
I've bought the pixel 6 pro few months ago and kept hoping it'd be better by updates. and indeed it improved a lot with time except one annoying issue: The insane mobile network's battery usage.
As you can see in the screenshot, it takes more than 30% of my battery to just be idle on LTE with data off. not even a game uses that much of power.
I contacted Google, they asked me to return it but since I live in Morocco it's impossible due to the insane customs' taxes, so I just have to live hoping they'd fix it with an update.
what I noticed is that this issue isn't present in custom roms. I also noticed that many people are still facing this issue to this day.
I reported the bug many times using the feedback app in the QPR beta yet got no replies.

Take out the trash, Facebook.
Try a network reset.
Find the apps sucking the bandwidth. All cloud apps are prime suspects. A logging firewall would be helpful for this. Firewall block all apps that don't need internet access.
Disable all Google, app and carrier feedback.
Malware is also a possibility.
Finally factory reset if you suspect malware and/or can't track down the cause(s). Be aware it may reoccur so it's always better to find the root cause when possible.

blackhawk said:
Take out the trash, Facebook.
Try a network reset.
Find the apps sucking the bandwidth. All cloud apps are prime suspects. A logging firewall would be helpful for this. Firewall block all apps that don't need internet access.
Disable all Google, app and carrier feedback.
Malware is also a possibility.
Finally factory reset if you suspect malware and/or can't track down the cause(s). Be aware it may reoccur so it's always better to find the root cause when possible.
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I tried literally everything. Tried a clean install with no apps installed, still the same. Tried disabling adaptive connectivity and "mobile data always on", still the same problem. LTE always drains battery.
I even tried deleting modem partitions then reinstalling the stock rom yet the issue persists. Can't seem to get rid of this issue.

mohamed.sakhiri said:
I tried literally everything. Tried a clean install with no apps installed, still the same. Tried disabling adaptive connectivity and "mobile data always on", still the same problem. LTE always drains battery.
I even tried deleting modem partitions then reinstalling the stock rom yet the issue persists. Can't seem to get rid of this issue.
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That sucks. Maybe a hardware issue... I know that's the last thing you want to hear. It may be an antenna problem rather than the mobo.
Does it get better with the data on? Have your carrier do a network reset on their side.
Double check all configurations for the mobile data. Try clearing the data in the SIM toolkit app if it has that. Not sure how the SIM is managed on that maybe it's misconfigured. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if that helps.
If you have a good local shop sometimes a second pair of eyes can spot the issue.

blackhawk said:
That sucks. Maybe a hardware issue... I know that's the last thing you want to hear. It may be an antenna problem rather than the mobo.
Does it get better with the data on? Have your carrier do a network reset on their side.
Double check all configurations for the mobile data. Try clearing the data in the SIM toolkit app if it has that. Not sure how the SIM is managed on that maybe it's misconfigured. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if that helps.
If you have a good local shop sometimes a second pair of eyes can spot the issue.
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I don't think it could be a hardware issue since I tried some custom roms from xda and there was no drain. Network usage was limited to 2%.
I really don't know what's going on with this phone lol. I'm not the only one, there are some people online complaining about the same issue.

mohamed.sakhiri said:
I don't think it could be a hardware issue since I tried some custom roms from xda and there was no drain. Network usage was limited to 2%.
I really don't know what's going on with this phone lol. I'm not the only one, there are some people online complaining about the same issue.
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You need to find what's causing it then. Perhaps a system apk is endlessly polling another service or the internet. Make sure it's not a rootkit... Android 12 had a huge hole that Google plugged earlier this year. It doesn't apply to me so I'm not up to speed on it. Try flashing with the latest stable stock rom or simply go with what works.
It maybe they had to substitute a smaller chipset or component during a production run due to supply issues and the current firmware inadvertently wasn't configured properly for it. If so eventually they will correct the firmware more than likely. Samsung is notorious for doing that, Google probably does it too.
Fun times...

mohamed.sakhiri said:
Hello everyone,
I hope all the pixel 6 pro owners are not suffering from high blood pressure lol
I've bought the pixel 6 pro few months ago and kept hoping it'd be better by updates. and indeed it improved a lot with time except one annoying issue: The insane mobile network's battery usage.
As you can see in the screenshot, it takes more than 30% of my battery to just be idle on LTE with data off. not even a game uses that much of power.
I contacted Google, they asked me to return it but since I live in Morocco it's impossible due to the insane customs' taxes, so I just have to live hoping they'd fix it with an update.
what I noticed is that this issue isn't present in custom roms. I also noticed that many people are still facing this issue to this day.
I reported the bug many times using the feedback app in the QPR beta yet got no replies.
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Unless you "have" to use the facebook app, which is a battery hog,
just go to m.facebook.com, the mobile site. Less battery drain and when you close
your browser, there isn't any app running that you don't know of.

Forget that percentage number, over the various updates I have had it be anywhere from 5% to 50% and it has made absolutely zero difference to how long the phone lasts during the day.
Are you actually not getting through a day on the battery? If you are then forget about that number as its not really telling you anything.

The mobile network drain is due to the Samsung radio chip they chose, it was known to be a battery hog even 4 years ago. They use a different, more efficient over in the Pixel 7 and 7 Pro