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Gen 9 1Ghz vs 1.2 Ghz vs 1.5 Ghz

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Cajl and Karenax !

Seems like the performance difference between the 1GHz and the 1.2GHz is about the same as between the 1.2GHz and the 1.5GHz

is it possible to just oveclock the 1ghz version? instead of paying more for a 1.2 or 1.5 version?

yeahman45 said:
is it possible to just oveclock the 1ghz version? instead of paying more for a 1.2 or 1.5 version?
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Probably, yes... with root and a little work on the kernel. Main reason you pay more for the 1.2GHz version is it has double the storage.

TjaXanK said:
Probably, yes... with root and a little work on the kernel. Main reason you pay more for the 1.2GHz version is it has double the storage.
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Not only storage... Even if it's 4430, which has not really been confirmed, kernel source code shows that 1.2 socs have different ids (probably certified by Texas to run at this speed) and also that Archos have specific radiators for them.

letama said:
Not only storage... Even if it's 4430, which has not really been confirmed, kernel source code shows that 1.2 socs have different ids (probably certified by Texas to run at this speed) and also that Archos have specific radiators for them.
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Yes well ,in this case we will still probably be able to Overclock the cpu... and get it up to 1.2GHz... the Gen8 could be overclocked to 1.2GHz... am I wrong in assuming this? (Haven't looked at the kernel yet since my device is not here yet and I wouldn't be able to test my work.

If only we knew when the 1.5 turbo edition was going to come out.

TjaXanK said:
Probably, yes... with root and a little work on the kernel. Main reason you pay more for the 1.2GHz version is it has double the storage.
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Of course, if all the theoreticals turn out to be true, and you bought the 1.5 GHz you could overclock that too and probably get to a much higher number...

I would like to buy Archos 101 G9 Turbo 16GB, but how do I tell if the 1.2GHz or 1.5GHz?
1.2GHz and 1.5GHz are on the box packaging alone 'TURBO'.
Many thanks...

I don't know beforehand but once you have the tablet you can run Quadrant : https://market.android.com/details?id=com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.standard&hl=en to see the clock speed.

1.5GHz one has 1GB ram

haerwu said:
1.5GHz one has 1GB ram
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They will start coming with 1GB RAM later on (end of Feb?, not sure of actual date), but I believe that any 1.5GHz devices that are currently available have 512MB of RAM.
huijaa said:
1.2GHz and 1.5GHz are on the box packaging alone 'TURBO'
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My box says "Turbo version: ultra fast dual-core processor" on the top-right corner. I'm not sure if all of the 1.5GHz models say that, but mine does.

@Harfainx
what is your P/N
my :
it is a 250go 1.5 ghz
and you ?

cajl: 512 or 1024MB ram?

512 mo..
1024 de ram afer the middle of march

cajl said:
@Harfainx
what is your P/N
my :
it is a 250go 1.5 ghz
and you ?
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Sorry cajl, forgot to check that.
My serial number is different (of course)
My UPC is 6 90590 51887 2
My PN is 109918 (same as yours, but mine is the 16GB version)

Snapdragon beats tegra by far?

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/
That means that middle range device (One S) would be faster than HTC's flagship?

Until the two devices are put side by side, all of this is just silly speculation really.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not impossible that they've dropped the ball but I'll be very shocked if
A) The S out performs the X
B) The XL is much, if any, faster than the X

i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?

kreilinger said:
i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?
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Amd fx 6core vs intel 4core i7 anyone? intel beats the amd cpu in terms of instructions per cycle
Send from my HTC HD 2

benchs are the easiest way to fool people, no wide margins here, they trade blows, T3 winds in true multitasking, 720p coverage and GPU, if we look at Antutu test T3 wins by large margins
Velloma is a test made by Qualcomm (Snapdragon makers) that doesn't scale linear across multi-core https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quicinc.vellamo&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5xdWljaW5jLnZlbGxhbW8iXQ..
Qualcomm says that's because Antutu's tests scale linearly with the number of cores - in other words, it's using multiple cores too well, from Qualcomm's perspective. That means a quad-core processor has a huge advantage over a dual-core processor, even a very fast one, on that specific test.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400409,00.asp
guys Anandtech already posted benchmarks of both devices, the S is carrying the dual s4 minus LTE, T3 and s4 are trading blows, these processors are almost equal, however keep in mind T3 has to do with native resolution in some tests, which is 77% more pixels, its clear T3 is doing better and more suited for the 720p display
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
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All this info already present in the Mega Information Thread
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Want more proof?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-krait-performance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
Again, we're showing a huge performance advantage here thanks to Krait. Seeing as how Vellamo is a Qualcomm benchmark don't get too attached to the advantage here, but it does echo some of what we've seen earlier.
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I believe Anandtech and PC Mag better than some random internet OMFG!

Come up guys there is a great thread where we have discussed all these. Please take some time to read it.

2gb vs 4gb model, weird memory usage

So my 1.8ghz 2gb zen2 model was thrown and the only thing that stop working is the sim1 slot. So instead of waiting for repair I purchased the 1.8ghz 4gb model.
Crazy thing... Both phones are set up exactly the same. Fully stock. It seems the 4gb model is using more ram than the 2gb model. I have less than 800mb avail on both. Makes no sense at all. Any ideas why or has anyone else noticed this?

Why are all People complaining about RAM usage. Only a full RAM is a good RAM.
More Apps in RAM doesn't mean more battery usage like on Windows.

I didn't say anything about battery. I payed the extra $30 for 4gb so when I'm switching between apps, and I usually have quite a few running, that they aren't reset when I switch between them.
I was just wondering why I seem to have less ram available than my 2gb model. Which I was gonna reply seemed to fix with a cache partition wipe.

Frankenberrie said:
So my 1.8ghz 2gb zen2 model was thrown and the only thing that stop working is the sim1 slot. So instead of waiting for repair I purchased the 1.8ghz 4gb model.
Crazy thing... Both phones are set up exactly the same. Fully stock. It seems the 4gb model is using more ram than the 2gb model. I have less than 800mb avail on both. Makes no sense at all. Any ideas why or has anyone else noticed this?
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Well the 4g (really it's 3.8g but they round that up) ram model is a 2.3ghz processor and are you sure you are reading your ram usage correctly? I have the 2.3 4g ram 64g hd and it shows more than 1 g usable ram left (it's about 1900 to 2000 used on this picture with apps in the background) completely stock. If you are reading correctly it might be the apps your running. In short though your suppose to have higher ram usage and the kernel frees ram as needed when your ram gets too low and that's exactly how proper ram management should work.
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You would clear the ram by pressing the power & boost quicktile or by quick pressing the window swap hw button on the bottom right of your phone and clearing your recent apps.
Here is a pic after clearing the recent apps.
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alope said:
Why are all People complaining about RAM usage. Only a full RAM is a good RAM.
More Apps in RAM doesn't mean more battery usage like on Windows.
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That's the theory, yeah - RAM on Android should be mostly filled up and then released by the OS as needed depending on use. But for whatever reason on the stock ASUS firmware the OS is not managing RAM effectively - it's taking up too much and not releasing it properly. Mine drops as low as 200MB and then there are very noticeable slow downs. Not sure if this is because of 5.0 memory leaks, or bad RAM management specific to ASUS code. I have had to limit background processes under the developer options in settings to acheive acceptable smooth running.

Meizu m3s officially announce today with Fingerprint ID

Meizu has released Meizu M3S today, it has two version, RAM 2GB ROM 16 and RAM 3GB ROM 16GB version, and it has fingerprint ID and metal body. Most importantly, it can be the best killer at most competitive price in top Octa core phones. So let's enjoy it together!
Check Meizu m3s main features:
MTK6750 Octa core 64bit processor,
RAM 2GB ROM 16GB, and RAM 3GB ROM 32GB,
5mp front camera , 13MP back camera,
5inch 720p screen,
3020mAh battery.
Price: RAM 2GB ROM 16GB version at 699 yuan, at $108,
RAM 3GB ROM 32GB at 899 yuan, $138.
Source: igeekphone
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It does look fantastic...They have done a great job with this phone

RavinDave001 said:
It does look fantastic...They have done a great job with this phone
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yeah, you are right, but it confirms it doesn't have fingerprint scanner.

I know the fingerprint scanners are pretty big these days, but to be honest, I dont really need 1. I think that more goes into the functioning of the phone itself. But I for 1 would love to know how this stacks up in operability.

Works in America?
Carrier bands are just for Asian countries? Wondering if they work with 3G and Lte network from America.

leclark said:
Carrier bands are just for Asian countries? Wondering if they work with 3G and Lte network from America.
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This work in europe but not in America, sorry

I got mine yesterday. The MEIZU m3s 5 inch Fingerprint 3GB RAM 32GB ROM MT6750 Octa-core 4G and the standard Flyme ROM sucks sooooooo hard. Cant wait for a good build.. Too many settings are not there. There is an international build of this Flyme-thing. So dont worry about Chinese.

Meizu m3s have a lot of problems in connection with mTouch button factory defect. In all Meizu M3s smartphones (after 1-6 months). Don't recommend to buy
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FumiJ said:
yeah, you are right, but it confirms it doesn't have fingerprint scanner.
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It has a fingerprint scanner, but the mTouch button - with the factory deffect. So poor quality...

Snap 820 never stop??

Watch this image...
Why snap 820 any cores of 2cluster never go to idle / stop?
In 5 minutes never go under 307mhz
Is a CPU-Z bug ?
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veget83 said:
Watch this image...
Why snap 820 any cores of 2cluster never go to idle / stop?
In 5 minutes never go under 307mhz
Is a CPU-Z bug ?View attachment 4428313
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Not a bug, its just how big.Little processors work. The little cores, or the slower less efficient cores handle all background tasks. While the big cores or the faster more efficient cores handle main tasks, for example the current app your using or when your heavily multitasking. So technically if the devices screen is on, all cores will stay on. When the screen is off for a period of time cores may go to deep sleep, but that depends on how many apps you have and how often your apps need to connect to the internet and email, sms/mms, etc. Also that depends on software. I'm not accustomed to stock software. But I'm assuming it will do the same

Dlind said:
Not a bug, its just how big.Little processors work. The little cores, or the slower less efficient cores handle all background tasks. While the big cores or the faster more efficient cores handle main tasks, for example the current app your using or when your heavily multitasking. So technically if the devices screen is on, all cores will stay on. When the screen is off for a period of time cores may go to deep sleep, but that depends on how many apps you have and how often your apps need to connect to the internet and email, sms/mms, etc. Also that depends on software. I'm not accustomed to stock software. But I'm assuming it will do the same
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I see the CPU start to 307 and jump to 1300 instantly...
This is a good way to use battery...
If I change the governor, did I can get more efficiently consumption of battery?
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veget83 said:
I see the CPU start to 307 and jump to 1300 instantly...
This is a good way to use battery...
If I change the governor, did I can get more efficiently consumption of battery?
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Thats touch boost I believe. It helps minimize lags and stuttering when scrolling, changing apps etc.