http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/
That means that middle range device (One S) would be faster than HTC's flagship?
Until the two devices are put side by side, all of this is just silly speculation really.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not impossible that they've dropped the ball but I'll be very shocked if
A) The S out performs the X
B) The XL is much, if any, faster than the X
i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?
kreilinger said:
i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amd fx 6core vs intel 4core i7 anyone? intel beats the amd cpu in terms of instructions per cycle
Send from my HTC HD 2
benchs are the easiest way to fool people, no wide margins here, they trade blows, T3 winds in true multitasking, 720p coverage and GPU, if we look at Antutu test T3 wins by large margins
Velloma is a test made by Qualcomm (Snapdragon makers) that doesn't scale linear across multi-core https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quicinc.vellamo&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5xdWljaW5jLnZlbGxhbW8iXQ..
Qualcomm says that's because Antutu's tests scale linearly with the number of cores - in other words, it's using multiple cores too well, from Qualcomm's perspective. That means a quad-core processor has a huge advantage over a dual-core processor, even a very fast one, on that specific test.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400409,00.asp
guys Anandtech already posted benchmarks of both devices, the S is carrying the dual s4 minus LTE, T3 and s4 are trading blows, these processors are almost equal, however keep in mind T3 has to do with native resolution in some tests, which is 77% more pixels, its clear T3 is doing better and more suited for the 720p display
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All this info already present in the Mega Information Thread
---------- Post added at 11:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 AM ----------
Want more proof?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-krait-performance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
Again, we're showing a huge performance advantage here thanks to Krait. Seeing as how Vellamo is a Qualcomm benchmark don't get too attached to the advantage here, but it does echo some of what we've seen earlier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe Anandtech and PC Mag better than some random internet OMFG!
Come up guys there is a great thread where we have discussed all these. Please take some time to read it.
Related
Engadget
HTC Mondarian on the AT&T network
Perhaps a 1.3 ghz CPU?
Snapdragon QSD8650A processor
4.3" screen
I believe an aluminum casing?
If all that is true, then T-mobile can have their HD7. I'd be much happy with this.
More pictures!
Nothing breathtaking but maybe the best looking WP7 device by HTC so far.
Lets hope the rumors of a 1.3GHz Snapdragon processor and a 1400mAh battery is true.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-mondrian-renders-for-the-press-surface-1#comments
nizzon said:
Lets hope the rumors of a 1.3GHz Snapdragon processor and a 1400mAh battery is true.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's funny how people build up unrealistic expectations and then get disappointed.
As Nietzsche once said, hope dies last, I would kill it first.
Thats unrealistic?
Looks like the Samsung Cetus has a 1500mAh battery.
But hey... lets hope it has the same specs as all the others, so we won't get disappointed.
Oh wait!... I have a better idea, lets don't care at all.
I wish I could quote some fancy philosopher here... or do I?
Samsung Cetus i8700 is prob the best looking so far and with really good specs. I just hope a 16GB flavour is offered for that model.
nizzon said:
But hey... lets hope it has the same specs as all the others, so we won't get disappointed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What's the point in hoping when you know already that it'll have the same specs. Don't know about the battery though.
vangrieg said:
What's the point in hoping when you know already that it'll have the same specs. Don't know about the battery though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hoping? there are multiple reports out claiming that it will be 1.3, no one is blindly speculating.some people see the cup half full, but I guess you see it as wheats the point of looking?
Whatever. Microsoft said all devices will use the same chip. You can fantasize about those "multiple reports" as much as you like. There have been multiple "leaks" reposting Photoshop renders made by xda members just for fun, with big blogs copypasting things without thinking. Most of these "reports" had the same source.
Of course many of the blogs out there are wrong and start chirping what the one before them said. But no one is blindly predicting or "hoping" something out of reach like a phone with a 3.0 ghz quad core with 1 gb graphics either. Regardless of what microsoft said it is very possible that there will be a phone with more than 1 ghz, possibly even a 1.3 ghz, within the next year.
Next year, sure. Just not at launch. If this Mondrian is launched this "holiday season" it's getting the same chip as others. Easy as that.
If only it had a qwerty keyboard =(
..........
Bezzletine said:
If only it had a qwerty keyboard =(
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Relax, there will be phones with qwertys.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
So will you guys buy One S or One X?
jerrylzy said:
View attachment 979783
So will you guys buy One S or One X?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One X. There's more to life than meaningless benchmark numbers; the One X's feature set is far more complete, especially due to the vastly better screen.
There are numerous threads on this already. And this is the one x section. So I assume those in this section will get the one x.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/2/2919202/htc-one-x-review
PLUS THE ONE S SCORES HIGHER IN SOME BENCHS BECAUSE IT'S RUNNING IN MUCH LOWER RESOLUTION, QUARTER THE AMOUNT OF PIXELS
both chips trade blows, s4 has the edge in single threading and T3 has the edge in multi-threading and GPU @720p
gettting tired of this job...
Doesn't take a genius to realise the One X main selling point is actually that devine screen and size equally the One S pentile and QHD is a major hurdle
screen is what sold iPhone4, SGSII and Galaxy Nexus
My benchmark results for the One X in the attached graphs,
very short:
Quadrant: 4951, 13 259 CPU (!)
Nena Mark 1: 58.2
Nena Mark 2: 47.8
AnTuTu: 11609, great read and write speed of the memory card!
The values differ significantly from the results of most of the testers from the net, especially the one that assign the One S would perform better ... They either have tested a "Monday Device", or have i a super-device? Test it yourself
Sorry for the big pics...Upload from my phone
The inside gossip, is that the One X is far from optimised yet, and it WILL get faster after firmware updates. They are still maximising utilisation of the quad-cores. It is quite possible the One S will always beat the X for single threading tests.
hamdir said:
PLUS THE ONE S SCORES HIGHER IN SOME BENCHS BECAUSE IT'S RUNNING IN MUCH LOWER RESOLUTION, QUARTER THE AMOUNT OF PIXELS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you wanna yell, don't yell false stuff, its half the amount.
Yeah I'm getting 4900 for quadrants scores too
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
One S: 540*960= 518400
One X: 720*1280= 921600
The one s is rendering 44% less pixels. How did you guys get 2x or 4x the pixels on the one x?
GLbench Egypt 2.1 shows at the same resolution the one x is only about 10% faster. You won't really notice the difference.The Adreno 225 often gets bashed as a hugely inferior GPU but it practice, its actually pretty decent.
Some benchmarks where one s leads are not skewed by resolution. Linpack is resolution independent. While in Vellamo only the flinger tests (where both are pegged at 60fps) are resolution dependent.
nativestranger said:
One S: 540*960= 518400
One X: 720*1280= 921600
The one s is rendering 44% less pixels. How did you guys get 2x or 4x the pixels on the one x?
GLbench Egypt 2.1 shows at the same resolution the one x is only about 10% faster. You won't really notice the difference.The Adreno 225 often gets bashed as a hugely inferior GPU but it practice, its actually pretty decent.
Some benchmarks where one s leads are not skewed by resolution. Linpack is resolution independent. While in Vellamo only the flinger tests (where both are pegged at 60fps) are resolution dependent.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Antutu has never let me down for benching, as it supports true multi-core testing.
Vellamo is irrelavant, it was made by Qualcomm (Snapdragon) - so, its results are biased & flawed.
So if the rumors were true about the nexus 5 being "beast" as they claim, the question is will TMO S3 users get the latest N5 ASAP to
replace your current S3 TMO. Cuz for me watching benchmarks on S4,ONE X, etc they are having 20k+ scores on antutu and others benchmarking
apps and seems our smartphone/s looks pretty old right now.
Bitcloud30 said:
So if the rumors were true about the nexus 5 being "beast" as they claim, the question is will TMO S3 users get the latest N5 ASAP to
replace your current S3 TMO. Cuz for me watching benchmarks on S4,ONE X, etc they are having 20k+ scores on antutu and others benchmarking
apps and seems our smartphone/s looks pretty old right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nah,nah, nah!!
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I didn't purchase my S3 for benchies, I purchased it because it's a joy to use and works very well. Just because a new phone is out doesn't mean I'll immediately jump to it. I'll take my time and wait.
Especially with all the different reported phones in the pipeline.
Whudda we got here??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192611
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
No way. At least not at first. I just got the s3 a little while ago but even if I didn't I still believe the s3 is no doubt in top list and works amazingly well. Plus many new features will continue to be added through updates. But if you want a phone just for best processor then go ahead. But honestly right now I don't believe any app on a phone will actually use a processor with more than 2 cores, feels very unnecessary. Maybe just the android system and MAYBE some hardcore badass games use all cores?
Sent from my PC36100 using xda premium
not to mention it will most likely be just like the S3 in regards to, it was announced as a quad core, but by the time the US got it, our retarded butts dumbed it down to a dual core. International version of the S3 is still quad core. So while the S4 boasts 8 cores, we might see the quad core finally for us here in the states!... lol
I do not understand why people care so much about benchmark score to the point they will switch phone and buy it out of their pocket
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
XperianceIT said:
not to mention it will most likely be just like the S3 in regards to, it was announced as a quad core, but by the time the US got it, our retarded butts dumbed it down to a dual core. International version of the S3 is still quad core. So while the S4 boasts 8 cores, we might see the quad core finally for us here in the states!... lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason they switched to a dual-core for the US version is because the international was getting terrible battery life. The S3 battery isn't really big enough to stay charged long on 4 cores. It had nothing to do with "dumbing it down"
+Bound for Valhalla!
+Did ya boy help? Gimmie a "thanks"! It's fast -one click- and!! It's free!!
ZOPO HERO 2 or Color F2
Display: 5.5 inch 1280 x 720 HD IPS Screen
CPU: MTK6737 Quad Core , ARM ,Cortex-A53
GPU: Mali-T720MP1 , 550 MHz
System: Android 6.0
1GB RAM
16GB ROM.
TF card up to 64GB
Camera:
Back 8MP GC 8024
Front 2 MP GC 2365
Battery
2300mAh probably in reality 1750mAh
OTA: Yes
OTG : Yes
Bluetooth: 4.0
4G
2xSIM MICRO& Nano, SD card. Nicely placed so you do not have to remove the battery
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Place reserved for review & root files
TWRP 3.0.2 by Jemmini attached.
Hands on impressions
It is a nice phone as far as build quality is concerned. and there it ends.
CPU MT6737.
But a small battery of 2300mAh =1750mAh makes it difficult to use with ease.
Even with energy efficient MT6737CPU. it is weak performance of the battery.
CPU is clocked at 1.25MHz so it drains the battery.
Not very nice photos from the rear camera GC8024 sensor, 8MP. Photos with quit natural colors but a lot of noise and not sharp.
Generally nice with metal frame.
A bit greyish display typical for 60USD range.
Performance
The quad-core processor MediaTek MT6737 clocked at 1.3 GHz, has a Mali-T720 GPU and is at 1GB RAM associated. The 64-bit processor would should in any event on paper be better than MT6580. In practice it is the opposite. The framework is not running truly fluid, longer holding up times one should regularly acknowledge and when different applications running out of sight, the ZOPO Color F2 is truly moderate. Zopo Hero 2 / Color F2 is in this way appropriate for close to standard errands.
The touch screen is not accurate enough for high-speed recorder, the camera normal shooting unsuitable and the GPS a total failure.
-----------------------
Please hit the THANKS button, if I helped you
TWRP file added to the first post
-----------------------
Please hit the THANKS button, if I helped you
With only 1Gb ram is really a crap device..
i understand the price range, but honestly 2Gb ram and decent battery are the minumim requirements to have a good chance to sell some units..
megthebest said:
With only 1Gb ram is really a crap device..
i understand the price range, but honestly 2Gb ram and decent battery are the minumim requirements to have a good chance to sell some units..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree as far as the battery is concerned. If 1GB was the only bad point than most devices like new Oukitel units and others in economy range 50-70 USD we should call crap.
But they sell some units anyway.
The battery and camera are the worst features in ZOPO Hero2 or F2 IMHO
--------------
hit thank you if i helped you
This TWRP for zopo hero 2 works? I own the device
hello, I wanted to know from 3 processors, which of the 3 best yields in games, heating etc? Greetings and thank you
Anyone know?
Clearly the 808 I would guess.
RogerF81 said:
Clearly the 808 I would guess.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope.
650 is better.
http://mobile.hdblog.it/2016/01/15/Chip-confronto-Snapdragon-650-vs-808-vs-Helio-X10/
Cloudus91 said:
Nope.
650 is better.
http://mobile.hdblog.it/2016/01/15/Chip-confronto-Snapdragon-650-vs-808-vs-Helio-X10/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, I find this really surprising!
RogerF81 said:
Oh, I find this really surprising!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 808 and 810 were "bad" cpus from Qualcomm as they both had major issues with overheating and were mostly stock arm design (A57/A53). While the 650 is also a stock design the big cores are now A72 and that should come with some performance gain. It is worth noting the that 650 is 28nm HPm but the 808 was 20nm HPm and that should give the 808 a edge for power use but that could be canceled out by core design.
Please note that the links below are about a combination of of core design and fabrication process. In the case of 808 -> 650 you get a better core but a less ideal fabrication.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9184/arm-reveals-cortex-a72-architecture-details
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/arm-details-its-new-high-end-cpu-core-cortex-a72/
The 820 runs games perfect. Max settings with no frame drops over here. Its power consumption is quite low too
Kye2000 said:
The 820 runs games perfect. Max settings with no frame drops over here. Its power consumption is quite low too
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, besides the 821, I think the 820 is the best Snapdragon out there. But the price is accordingly to that, unfortunately...
lart2150 said:
The 808 and 810 were "bad" cpus from Qualcomm as they both had major issues with overheating and were mostly stock arm design (A57/A53). While the 650 is also a stock design the big cores are now A72 and that should come with some performance gain. It is worth noting the that 650 is 28nm HPm but the 808 was 20nm HPm and that should give the 808 a edge for power use but that could be canceled out by core design.
Please note that the links below are about a combination of of core design and fabrication process. In the case of 808 -> 650 you get a better core but a less ideal fabrication.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9184/arm-reveals-cortex-a72-architecture-details
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/arm-details-its-new-high-end-cpu-core-cortex-a72/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can see the adreno 418 inside the 808 is on par on the adreno 510 of the snapdragon 652? Am i right?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
kevin_23 said:
I can see the adreno 418 inside the 808 is on par on the adreno 510 of the snapdragon 652? Am i right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
808 vs 652 should get about the same 3d graphics.
http://www.gsmarena.com/antutu_benc...napdragon_820_tops_competition-news-17097.php