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2378 - Defy Quadrant Benchmark New High

This is not mine. At 1000Hz (52Vsel) I got only 2000.
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Which rom did you use?

Hi ABC Universal,
can you tell us how did you reach this score ???
The difference is so big...!!??
Looks like you're based on a chinese version as I see some chinese in the status bar.
Thx.

Really impressive!!!
How is it possible?
My stock rom eclair 2.21 with jit and deodex keep an highest value of 1550 on quadrant...
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1- A fake.
2- Sense Kernel or something similar.

tomeu0000 said:
1- A fake.
2- Sense Kernel or something similar.
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Agree
Sent from my MOTO Defy

It is genuine output from quadrant running on defy. But yes there is no miracle performance boost.
Actually it demonstrated a limitation of defy's (and many others') CPU and a problem of quadrant benchmark. There is a detailed Chinese article explaning it but I understand only a little. Essentially, with some settings in android 2.2 system, defy (and many others) will fail the H264 decoding test, but quadrant takes it as completed in mini second, and thus the exceptional high cpu mark.
It was originated by some low end Chinese android phones which surprised people with exceptional quadrant benchmark. It turned out they had these settings enabled by default (/system/build.prop):
media.stagefright.enable-player=true
media.stagefright.enable-meta=true
media.stagefright.enable-scan=true
media.stagefright.enable-http=true

So this simply means the guys over at Aurora need to update their software to read the fail and drop the score to where it should be in reference to high end phones.

Does it mean that the Nexus and Evo 2.2+ scores are also wrong for the same reason?

sandresimon said:
Does it mean that the Nexus and Evo 2.2+ scores are also wrong for the same reason?
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According to the discussions, these two models enabled the settings by default. But I don't have them to examine myself.

That's explains why you install the sense rom, you obtain amazing Quadrant scores...
But really? no better performance? i thing this processor can do more than now...

not fake, i can do that too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976015

I think people getting 2700+ from defy now with this hack

hohoho, i go to try this....
EDIT.: For me, 1750 1Ghz 57vel

I've got 1231 @ 1000 mhz/53 vsel and 1303 @ 1100 mhz/55 vsel.

What benchmark app is this?

Whooooaaa!!! I don't believe it....!! Look awesome!
Down the line if the Defy can stay at average/consistant score around 1300 to 1500 should be more than enough running the daily apps/games available in the market.
Hit it more will eventually fried the poor Defy... huhuhu..!

mine got [email protected] on cm7 beta6, so you don't need to "cheat" to get a score that high out of the defy

this is my best score:
2617 on my defy with cm7 beta 6, cpu set to 1200 mhz and 80 vsel
but I think that there is something wrong: I usually get about 2200 (1950 with 1000 mhz, 1700 with 800 mhz), but every 5-6 tests i get similar score

LeoD7K said:
What benchmark app is this?
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Quadrant

Snapdragon beats tegra by far?

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/
That means that middle range device (One S) would be faster than HTC's flagship?

Until the two devices are put side by side, all of this is just silly speculation really.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not impossible that they've dropped the ball but I'll be very shocked if
A) The S out performs the X
B) The XL is much, if any, faster than the X

i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?

kreilinger said:
i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?
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Amd fx 6core vs intel 4core i7 anyone? intel beats the amd cpu in terms of instructions per cycle
Send from my HTC HD 2

benchs are the easiest way to fool people, no wide margins here, they trade blows, T3 winds in true multitasking, 720p coverage and GPU, if we look at Antutu test T3 wins by large margins
Velloma is a test made by Qualcomm (Snapdragon makers) that doesn't scale linear across multi-core https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quicinc.vellamo&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5xdWljaW5jLnZlbGxhbW8iXQ..
Qualcomm says that's because Antutu's tests scale linearly with the number of cores - in other words, it's using multiple cores too well, from Qualcomm's perspective. That means a quad-core processor has a huge advantage over a dual-core processor, even a very fast one, on that specific test.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400409,00.asp
guys Anandtech already posted benchmarks of both devices, the S is carrying the dual s4 minus LTE, T3 and s4 are trading blows, these processors are almost equal, however keep in mind T3 has to do with native resolution in some tests, which is 77% more pixels, its clear T3 is doing better and more suited for the 720p display
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
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All this info already present in the Mega Information Thread
---------- Post added at 11:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 AM ----------
Want more proof?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-krait-performance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
Again, we're showing a huge performance advantage here thanks to Krait. Seeing as how Vellamo is a Qualcomm benchmark don't get too attached to the advantage here, but it does echo some of what we've seen earlier.
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I believe Anandtech and PC Mag better than some random internet OMFG!

Come up guys there is a great thread where we have discussed all these. Please take some time to read it.

[Q] Taiwanese 1.8 Ghz model with 4GB of RAM?

Hi and sorry for the random abrupt question without searching much.
I'm in Thailand for a few more hours and I've seen a grey import Taiwanese Zenfone 2 with the 1.8 ghz processor but with 4GB of RAM. Is this possible? I thought only the 2.3 ghz model came with 4GB of RAM.
The shop owner is adamant it has 4GB RAM and even opened the sealed box, let me install CPU-Z and that shows Z3560 CPU at 1.8 ghz but also total RAM of 3908 MB.
App manager also shows 1.8 GB of RAM used and 1.8 GB free.
Is this possible? I really don't care about the slower processor but the 4GB dual channel RAM is the thing I'm after.
Any replies ASAP need to buy it in a few hours before my flight back to Kenya where there won't be an Asus or 4GB phone in sight!

kazprotos said:
Hi and sorry for the random abrupt question without searching much.
I'm in Thailand for a few more hours and I've seen a grey import Taiwanese Zenfone 2 with the 1.8 ghz processor but with 4GB of RAM. Is this possible? I thought only the 2.3 ghz model came with 4GB of RAM.
The shop owner is adamant it has 4GB RAM and even opened the sealed box, let me install CPU-Z and that shows Z3560 CPU at 1.8 ghz but also total RAM of 3908 MB.
App manager also shows 1.8 GB of RAM used and 1.8 GB free.
Is this possible? I really don't care about the slower processor but the 4GB dual channel RAM is the thing I'm after.
Any replies ASAP need to buy it in a few hours before my flight back to Kenya where there won't be an Asus or 4GB phone in sight!
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My advice is to buy it now, if the price is reasonable. Though not officially popular, it seems Asus has made quite a lot of ZE551ML Zenfone 2 models with varying specs, so it's not surprising they have a Taiwanese version of that particular model.
Just make sure that the firmware shows either TW or WW and you'll be set, since we only know only CN firmware exists on the 1.8/4GB model.
Sent from the Ace's MB865 using Tapatalk

Version is WW 2.14.40.19 after a 100mb update.
Think I'll get it

kazprotos said:
Version is WW 2.14.40.19 after a 100mb update.
Think I'll get it
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Awesome, you're all set and welcome aboard our growing community!:thumbup:
Sent from the Ace's MB865 using Tapatalk

kazprotos said:
Hi and sorry for the random abrupt question without searching much.
I'm in Thailand for a few more hours and I've seen a grey import Taiwanese Zenfone 2 with the 1.8 ghz processor but with 4GB of RAM. Is this possible? I thought only the 2.3 ghz model came with 4GB of RAM.
The shop owner is adamant it has 4GB RAM and even opened the sealed box, let me install CPU-Z and that shows Z3560 CPU at 1.8 ghz but also total RAM of 3908 MB.
App manager also shows 1.8 GB of RAM used and 1.8 GB free.
Is this possible? I really don't care about the slower processor but the 4GB dual channel RAM is the thing I'm after.
Any replies ASAP need to buy it in a few hours before my flight back to Kenya where there won't be an Asus or 4GB phone in sight!
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my hk version also has 1.8 ghz with 4gb of ram.

Chinese model

All Taiwanese ZF2 4GB have Z3580 (2.3GHz) CPU. There are no 1.8GHz/4GB versions in Taiwan. If you see such config then it's CN(Chinese) or whatever version, but not TW.
Here is table of *all* ZF2 versions for Taiwan market:
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It must be a WW version. Full model is ZE551ML-6J199WW. Loving it so far.
Only annoyance is there is a notification for Battery Draining Apps - is there a way to exclude apps from this? It keeps showing Google app and Bluetooth Share as battery draining even when phone is asleep but this is quite normal when using Google Now and bluetooth streaming to a speaker.

I bought that phone here in Germany from a Chinese seller, and I'm fine with the Intel 560.
Also because of my battery consumption:good:
Looking forward for a big community
Greetings

Woah. Lots of variants coming out.. Wont be shocked to see 2.3Ghz w/ 2gb ram. Lol.

Snapdragon 808 vs Snapdragon 650/652? Which is better?

hello, I wanted to know from 3 processors, which of the 3 best yields in games, heating etc? Greetings and thank you

Anyone know?

Clearly the 808 I would guess.

RogerF81 said:
Clearly the 808 I would guess.
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Nope.
650 is better.
http://mobile.hdblog.it/2016/01/15/Chip-confronto-Snapdragon-650-vs-808-vs-Helio-X10/

Cloudus91 said:
Nope.
650 is better.
http://mobile.hdblog.it/2016/01/15/Chip-confronto-Snapdragon-650-vs-808-vs-Helio-X10/
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Oh, I find this really surprising!

RogerF81 said:
Oh, I find this really surprising!
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The 808 and 810 were "bad" cpus from Qualcomm as they both had major issues with overheating and were mostly stock arm design (A57/A53). While the 650 is also a stock design the big cores are now A72 and that should come with some performance gain. It is worth noting the that 650 is 28nm HPm but the 808 was 20nm HPm and that should give the 808 a edge for power use but that could be canceled out by core design.
Please note that the links below are about a combination of of core design and fabrication process. In the case of 808 -> 650 you get a better core but a less ideal fabrication.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9184/arm-reveals-cortex-a72-architecture-details
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/arm-details-its-new-high-end-cpu-core-cortex-a72/

The 820 runs games perfect. Max settings with no frame drops over here. Its power consumption is quite low too

Kye2000 said:
The 820 runs games perfect. Max settings with no frame drops over here. Its power consumption is quite low too
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Well, besides the 821, I think the 820 is the best Snapdragon out there. But the price is accordingly to that, unfortunately...

lart2150 said:
The 808 and 810 were "bad" cpus from Qualcomm as they both had major issues with overheating and were mostly stock arm design (A57/A53). While the 650 is also a stock design the big cores are now A72 and that should come with some performance gain. It is worth noting the that 650 is 28nm HPm but the 808 was 20nm HPm and that should give the 808 a edge for power use but that could be canceled out by core design.
Please note that the links below are about a combination of of core design and fabrication process. In the case of 808 -> 650 you get a better core but a less ideal fabrication.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9184/arm-reveals-cortex-a72-architecture-details
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/arm-details-its-new-high-end-cpu-core-cortex-a72/
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I can see the adreno 418 inside the 808 is on par on the adreno 510 of the snapdragon 652? Am i right?
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kevin_23 said:
I can see the adreno 418 inside the 808 is on par on the adreno 510 of the snapdragon 652? Am i right?
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808 vs 652 should get about the same 3d graphics.
http://www.gsmarena.com/antutu_benc...napdragon_820_tops_competition-news-17097.php

mi6 using a lower binned version of 835 than others

Ha e checked a bunch of videos of mi6 and in all of them can see that on running benchmarks .. the mi6 reports a lower score than what is expected out of 835 ... There might be a chance of using emmc 5.1 instead of ufs2/2.1 ..
Can anyone with the phone confirm the same...???

https://youtu.be/wdsK_RQOZDA?t=5m7s
I don't know what you mean exactly.... and the MI6 is using UFS 2.1 for sure.

Ufs2.0 or 2.1, I'm sure .

My Mi6, and it's using UFS 2.1
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Not possible. I've bench mine and it's UFS 2.1 speed. I don't think they'll use emmc 5.1 on their latest flagships. Even when I had the MI5 it was with UFS 2.0 after I bench it to confirm. You don't even have the phone??

I agree
UFS 2.1 on mine too. Not sure what the OP is smokin

My Antutu MI6
My Antutu MI6

Weird check the review by IGyaan.... Shows a score of 135k.... Maybe not all phones are equal

rohit25 said:
Weird check the review by IGyaan.... Shows a score of 135k.... Maybe not all phones are equal
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Probably had older software - or pre-release version of the phone.

Even mine scores 135k ....
Which runs on latest rom 8.2.23 china stable

Mine running on 7.5.16 beta global rom scored 176k antutu score, and that was with a few notifications coming through on messenger at the time interrupting the benchmark.
In real world game play I get some weird "sticking" in Minecraft PE. When you're mining stuff and then go to move there is a split second of lag and it jumps. I'm not sure if this is a GPU optimization issue or whether its the Mi6.. My Google pixel does not do this - its liquid smooth.
Other graphics intensive games like Pixel Gun, Asphalt 8, etc work smooth and seamless.. Zero issues

Interesting that CPU X app indicates the max speed of the SD835 on my MI6 is only 1.9ghz..??? Shouldn't it be 2.45Ghz?

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I got 170k+ with antutu and I did have weird 120k antutu while the phone is overheating. So it's safe to say the test where they got 130k antutu is when the phone is overheating.
But by no mean Mi 6 is slow or use lower/underpowered memory/chip. It's fast all the time to me. Faster than all older chip powering phones I had.

On 7.5.16 global beta I was getting 178k+ antutu scores. after the update to 7.6.1 and a fresh wipe, around 171k now. Agreed its not a slow phone! doing well. Now all they need to do is fix the screen touch-move tolerance so that games are playable

Cpu x only giving info about 4 little cores big cores are clocked at 2.45 and little cores 1.9
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...processor-specs-speed-benchmark-chipset-cores

rohit25 said:
Ha e checked a bunch of videos of mi6 and in all of them can see that on running benchmarks .. the mi6 reports a lower score than what is expected out of 835 ... There might be a chance of using emmc 5.1 instead of ufs2/2.1 ..
Can anyone with the phone confirm the same...???
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It is UFS, mi China says so