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2378 - Defy Quadrant Benchmark New High

This is not mine. At 1000Hz (52Vsel) I got only 2000.
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Which rom did you use?

Hi ABC Universal,
can you tell us how did you reach this score ???
The difference is so big...!!??
Looks like you're based on a chinese version as I see some chinese in the status bar.
Thx.

Really impressive!!!
How is it possible?
My stock rom eclair 2.21 with jit and deodex keep an highest value of 1550 on quadrant...
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

1- A fake.
2- Sense Kernel or something similar.

tomeu0000 said:
1- A fake.
2- Sense Kernel or something similar.
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Agree
Sent from my MOTO Defy

It is genuine output from quadrant running on defy. But yes there is no miracle performance boost.
Actually it demonstrated a limitation of defy's (and many others') CPU and a problem of quadrant benchmark. There is a detailed Chinese article explaning it but I understand only a little. Essentially, with some settings in android 2.2 system, defy (and many others) will fail the H264 decoding test, but quadrant takes it as completed in mini second, and thus the exceptional high cpu mark.
It was originated by some low end Chinese android phones which surprised people with exceptional quadrant benchmark. It turned out they had these settings enabled by default (/system/build.prop):
media.stagefright.enable-player=true
media.stagefright.enable-meta=true
media.stagefright.enable-scan=true
media.stagefright.enable-http=true

So this simply means the guys over at Aurora need to update their software to read the fail and drop the score to where it should be in reference to high end phones.

Does it mean that the Nexus and Evo 2.2+ scores are also wrong for the same reason?

sandresimon said:
Does it mean that the Nexus and Evo 2.2+ scores are also wrong for the same reason?
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According to the discussions, these two models enabled the settings by default. But I don't have them to examine myself.

That's explains why you install the sense rom, you obtain amazing Quadrant scores...
But really? no better performance? i thing this processor can do more than now...

not fake, i can do that too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976015

I think people getting 2700+ from defy now with this hack

hohoho, i go to try this....
EDIT.: For me, 1750 1Ghz 57vel

I've got 1231 @ 1000 mhz/53 vsel and 1303 @ 1100 mhz/55 vsel.

What benchmark app is this?

Whooooaaa!!! I don't believe it....!! Look awesome!
Down the line if the Defy can stay at average/consistant score around 1300 to 1500 should be more than enough running the daily apps/games available in the market.
Hit it more will eventually fried the poor Defy... huhuhu..!

mine got [email protected] on cm7 beta6, so you don't need to "cheat" to get a score that high out of the defy

this is my best score:
2617 on my defy with cm7 beta 6, cpu set to 1200 mhz and 80 vsel
but I think that there is something wrong: I usually get about 2200 (1950 with 1000 mhz, 1700 with 800 mhz), but every 5-6 tests i get similar score

LeoD7K said:
What benchmark app is this?
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Quadrant

Snapdragon beats tegra by far?

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/
That means that middle range device (One S) would be faster than HTC's flagship?

Until the two devices are put side by side, all of this is just silly speculation really.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not impossible that they've dropped the ball but I'll be very shocked if
A) The S out performs the X
B) The XL is much, if any, faster than the X

i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?

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i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?
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Amd fx 6core vs intel 4core i7 anyone? intel beats the amd cpu in terms of instructions per cycle
Send from my HTC HD 2

benchs are the easiest way to fool people, no wide margins here, they trade blows, T3 winds in true multitasking, 720p coverage and GPU, if we look at Antutu test T3 wins by large margins
Velloma is a test made by Qualcomm (Snapdragon makers) that doesn't scale linear across multi-core https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quicinc.vellamo&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5xdWljaW5jLnZlbGxhbW8iXQ..
Qualcomm says that's because Antutu's tests scale linearly with the number of cores - in other words, it's using multiple cores too well, from Qualcomm's perspective. That means a quad-core processor has a huge advantage over a dual-core processor, even a very fast one, on that specific test.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400409,00.asp
guys Anandtech already posted benchmarks of both devices, the S is carrying the dual s4 minus LTE, T3 and s4 are trading blows, these processors are almost equal, however keep in mind T3 has to do with native resolution in some tests, which is 77% more pixels, its clear T3 is doing better and more suited for the 720p display
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
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All this info already present in the Mega Information Thread
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Want more proof?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-krait-performance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
Again, we're showing a huge performance advantage here thanks to Krait. Seeing as how Vellamo is a Qualcomm benchmark don't get too attached to the advantage here, but it does echo some of what we've seen earlier.
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I believe Anandtech and PC Mag better than some random internet OMFG!

Come up guys there is a great thread where we have discussed all these. Please take some time to read it.

Understanding my odd quadrant score

I dont mean to turn this into a 'post your score' thread but I have run Quadrant multiple times today and saw something that seemed odd. Yes the score is lower than Id like, and yeh I know the scores dont mean much... however it shows my CPU to be very low and my Memory super high.
For example, in the sample chart the HTC One X has a CPU around 2500 wheras mine is around 750. Mem for One X is about 600, mine is showing 2500. Just seems odd
None of the other S3 charts Ive seen how the memory higher than the cpu
FWIW Im running CM10 and do have a bunch of apps on here.
Thanks all

Are you OC'ed really high? Possibly a core is shutting down to prevent damage...

Not OCed at all :/

But also why would the memory be thru the roof. I mean its much higher (2x or 3x) higher than every other 'sample' device in the app

Scores don't really mean a whole lot... but post an Antutu score and your setup...

S3 from ATT
CM10 latest nightly (i believe around 12/10)
CWM recovery
None of the perf things changed. Also ran tests with wifi on, sync on, mobile on, was not plugged in but at 98% battery
Quandrant - 4500 avg (highest seen 4800)
Antutu - 9914
CPU: 3368
GPU: 3974
RAM: 1692
IO: 880
1512MHz (x2) [720x1280]

RoachForLife said:
S3 from ATT
CM10 latest nightly (i believe around 12/10)
CWM recovery
None of the perf things changed. Also ran tests with wifi on, sync on, mobile on, was not plugged in but at 98% battery
Quandrant - 4500 avg (highest seen 4800)
Antutu - 9914
CPU: 3368
GPU: 3974
RAM: 1692
IO: 880
1512MHz (x2) [720x1280]
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Don't rely on quadrant, it's not very well built for multi-core devices.... That Antutu score is very good, my highest was about 9500 OC at 2106, but was a few months back... I don't see any issues... again, these are just numbers... The performance of your phone should be evident through use.
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Not sent from your phone...

quasimodem what the screenshot from today? looks like you beat your old record

RoachForLife said:
quasimodem what the screenshot from today? looks like you beat your old record
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Yea, it's today, and at 1512Mhz, so I'm sure I could pull higher...

Gaming performance? (pubg, cod mobile. heating, thermal throttling?)

Hi! Just ordered a redmi note 8 pro. My mi 8 dieda couple of days ago and I wanted a quick and cheap replacement.
I play a lot of pubg and cod.
Anyone tried benchmarking the fps (with gltools or gamebench for example), does RN8 pro keep 60 fps even for long periods of time? Mi 8 had som throttling problems, when the phone got warm, it lost performance and fps..
Been som news about RN8 pro heating. Does it throttle also?
Any way to stop the throttling? with FDE-AI or similar apps, anyone tried?

Found some tests on youtube. Doesnt seem to be able to keep 60 fps on lowest settings.. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=redmi+note+8+pro+fps+test

I am also thinking on buying either RN8 Pro or realme 5 Pro. I have seen a lot videos on youtube.
And I think its performance is better as compared to Realme 5 Pro but every Youtubers mentioned one thing in particular that heats up a little bit.
I am currently on Redmi Note 3 Helio P60 Variant. Even its performance is very satisfying for me with pubgfx Tool on Smooth + Ultra.
So it is going to be an upgrade for me either way. ??

It wont throttle and heat as much if you set it to Smooth Extreme. If you set it to HDR Ultra then the device will heat up, but it won't throttle.
For COD, High-High 60fps stable, heat is tolerable

I got the phone and are satisfied so far. Not quite as fast as mi 8. I noticed that game turbo improves performance and reduces throttling.
You can check these scores. One with game turbo, one without. you notice that without it throttles alot more
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panzerpig said:
I got the phone and are satisfied so far. Not quite as fast as mi 8. I noticed that game turbo improves performance and reduces throttling.
You can check these scores. One with game turbo, one without. you notice that without it throttles alot more
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Have you found any difference betwen MIUI 10 and 11?

Generaljan said:
Have you found any difference betwen MIUI 10 and 11?
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No, have only tried miui 11.

Any updates on your impressions?

as a former poco f1 user, i'd say its about on par with it as far as performance goes (on paper there is about 15% more power to the poco f1) the main reason i switched to this phone was the display and the bigger battery for the most part i'd say the display is better then the poco's especially because the notch is basically gone, as for battery i'd its around the same or the redmi note 8 pro is a little bit better, also i only switched to this phone cause i had a chance to do so for free and i don't regret switching honestly.

I play pubg daily (ace rank). Performance is good. Most of the time you get 60 fps, some dips to 40-50 fps at start of landing at hot drops. TDM and mostly domination feels laggier. Might be those game modes...

Question P6 vs P7 Surprising Geekbench Results

My wife has a P7 Pro and I've got a P6 Pro. I decided to run a Geekbench test on them and was shocked to see the P6 Pro scored about 5% higher than the 7 Pro. Anyone have an idea what would cause that? Is there such thing as an underperforming CPU?
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PuffDaddy_d said:
My wife has a P7 Pro and I've got a P6 Pro. I decided to run a Geekbench test on them and was shocked to see the P6 Pro scored about 5% higher than the 7 Pro. Anyone have an idea what would cause that? Is there such thing as an underperforming CPU?
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Well there's a ton of variables that could affect those scores but yes, it's VERY possible to underclock a CPU, just as you can overclock it. I'm not saying that happened, but simply answering the question, as I have no idea the differences between them. OS can definitely affect this score just as much as CPU. So, what operating system (ROM) are both using, and kernels, ROOT magisk, ETC.? There's so many things that can cause this to happen that we will need a LOT more information to even begin to figure this out.

What I see here is your Pixel 6 performing better than average, I've seen scores from 2800 to 3200, but not higher, higher than that are rare, my highest score is 970/2843, can you tell which rom(beta, stable...), kernel, mods or modules and so are you using? Did you disable any app too?
Try using 3D Mark Wild Life Extreme or so to test 3D performance, or try antutu so you can have more info, thanks!

Thanks for the quick replies. I certainly understand that benchmark values can change from device to device or even day to day on the same device. I just never thought SoC's from 2 different generations would yield results showing the older device with higher performance.
Both phones are fully stock, not rooted or modified in any way with the latest Android 13 stable build. I only made this comparison because my wife's P7 Pro was having trouble taking more than 2 or 3 pictures in a row without temporarily locking out the camera shutter until the system resources cleared up. My P6 Pro in the same conditions had no trouble firing off 5 or 6 shots in a row without said issue.

PuffDaddy_d said:
Thanks for the quick replies. I certainly understand that benchmark values can change from device to device or even day to day on the same device. I just never thought SoC's from 2 different generations would yield results showing the older device with higher performance.
Both phones are fully stock, not rooted or modified in any way with the latest Android 13 stable build. I only made this comparison because my wife's P7 Pro was having trouble taking more than 2 or 3 pictures in a row without temporarily locking out the camera shutter until the system resources cleared up. My P6 Pro in the same conditions had no trouble firing off 5 or 6 shots in a row without said issue.
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Your Pixel is a 1% one, her Pixel has an issue probably, factory resetting one day should fix it, I'll avoid restoring a backup of settings and so to make sure it works as it should.
Make sure to clean caches and checking background apps, try also better battery stats to check what's eating up resources, it is probably an easy fix, but finding it will need some work, thanks for sharing

Well, If you spend time to read previous news and you will know it's normally because both chips are made by the same technology from Samsung. And the chip used by your P6P may be luckily packaged from the best performance of specific position of the wafers(Center dies or near center dies ...) ... So it's within the reasonable variation.