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[Q] Galaxy Nexus (ENGINEERING) Model?

Hey Everyone... Originally when I got my GNEX, I could have sworn that when I tried to unlock/root it, it had been easier than a lot of the instructions, but I didn't think too much about it at the time. (I got it directly from a VZW wireless store) I think at this point, it was already unlocked. Now that I've changed phones, I wanted to prep this one for selling, and I was trying to follow instructions on how to reset/relock the phone, but it doesn't seem to let me lock it with the fastboot oem lock commands... but if this is an engineering build, should I even bother? Or can I sell it as is and just state factory unlocked?
Here is an image of my "About Phone" after flashing back the google images that I downloaded from here: https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/mysid-icl53f-factory-65895fa8.tgz
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Should this be ok to sell in this state? My plan was to ebay it, but I don't want to get in any trouble.

Not ur fault they sold you it. Profit on ebay
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aimetti said:
Not ur fault they sold you it. Profit on ebay
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Yep, I would list it as "Factory Unlocked", you aren't the one who screwed up

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Yep, I would list it as "Factory Unlocked", you aren't the one who screwed up
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Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask, but I tried -looking- for a factory unlocked CDMA version to judge it against, and can't even seem to find any, am I just missing something? Are people selling them somewhere else?

You won't find a "Factory Unlocked" model, AFAIK they don't make them. What you have is somewhat unique, although not that useful since it's a Nexus device. If you want more info on what exactly you have this thread has a decent overview if you read the first 2 pages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1461386 Bottom line, your fine to sell it as is.

To the right person you will get more just because it is an engineering model! If I were you I would bank on that!!

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To the right person you will get more just because it is an engineering model! If I were you I would bank on that!!
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I thought about that too when I first read the post. But, since this is a Nexus device to begin with, does that really get you anything?

I doubt it gets you anything but I want one lol. I'd pay maybe $20 more than a normal one but beyond that I'd get a stock. Someone may want it just to have it like me though.
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jdk82 said:
I thought about that too when I first read the post. But, since this is a Nexus device to begin with, does that really get you anything?
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Gahh Its Lee said:
I doubt it gets you anything but I want one lol. I'd pay maybe $20 more than a normal one but beyond that I'd get a stock. Someone may want it just to have it like me though.
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The one post answers the other lol. It gets you at least $20 more, and to the right person even more, depending on the person!

Good luck let us know if it sells for more.
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Gahh Its Lee said:
Good luck let us know if it sells for more.
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Will do. Kinda bummed about the selling prices in general, haven't been able to decide what to list it for. Gonna throw it up with no reserve and see what happens.

Put rare and what not in it.
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If its rare people will pay, just due to the fact that no one else can get it.
I personally am the type of person you want to sell this to. I buy tons of stuff for hundreds more just because I collect tech.
***Speaking of which, if anyone knows someone that owns an original 20gb PS3 I am looking to spend $400 or more depending on condition. Been looking for 3 years. Also looking for a copy of Super Metroid for SNES, I`ll pay $60 with out box, $100 in box***
Anyways yeah, if I didn`t already own a Galaxy Nexus and was not in the process of looking for a Galaxy S2 White (perferably from France to use here in Canada) I`d pay around $800 easy.

Adreno said:
If its rare people will pay, just due to the fact that no one else can get it.
I personally am the type of person you want to sell this to. I buy tons of stuff for hundreds more just because I collect tech.
***Speaking of which, if anyone knows someone that owns an original 20gb PS3 I am looking to spend $400 or more depending on condition. Been looking for 3 years. Also looking for a copy of Super Metroid for SNES, I`ll pay $60 with out box, $100 in box***
Anyways yeah, if I didn`t already own a Galaxy Nexus and was not in the process of looking for a Galaxy S2 White (perferably from France to use here in Canada) I`d pay around $800 easy.
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I hadn't thought of it from a collectors point of view, I was thinking purely in terms of a developer. fiyawerx, maybe you should at least look for an alternative market? Maybe Adreno knows some other collectors?

jdk82 said:
I hadn't thought of it from a collectors point of view, I was thinking purely in terms of a developer. fiyawerx, maybe you should at least look for an alternative market? Maybe Adreno knows some other collectors?
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No I don't sorry.
Only reason I threw out the $800 number is because, really its not that much more you'd pay buying a "normal" phone really.
I still remember paying something like $700 after tax for the Xperia x10 (ouch bad device) and another $700 for the Xperia Arc (Better device but still too much IMO)
$800 is not that big of a jump, and you are getting something truly unique.
***On a side note: I bought the Xperia x10 and my wife's first iphone, the white 3GS the same day...I think the total was like $1400. Imagine my surprise learning my brand new "latest tech" android didn't support multitouch....mmm still feel that burn! Oh well I guess 2 finger touch ended up being supported later, but by then I was on the Samsung Captivate. Loved the Captivate!***

Adreno said:
No I don't sorry.
Only reason I threw out the $800 number is because, really its not that much more you'd pay buying a "normal" phone really.
I still remember paying something like $700 after tax for the Xperia x10 (ouch bad device) and another $700 for the Xperia Arc (Better device but still too much IMO)
$800 is not that big of a jump, and you are getting something truly unique.
***On a side note: I bought the Xperia x10 and my wife's first iphone, the white 3GS the same day...I think the total was like $1400. Imagine my surprise learning my brand new "latest tech" android didn't support multitouch....mmm still feel that burn! Oh well I guess 2 finger touch ended up being supported later, but by then I was on the Samsung Captivate. Loved the Captivate!***
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And here I'd be thrilled if I got around 5 for it. Still haven't listed it, though. My wife will kill me if I don't soon.

What's the condition of the phone?
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Gahh Its Lee said:
What's the condition of the phone?
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Used daily for about 3 weeks daily, with a screen protector installed @ verizon when I bought it. Somehow it still managed to get a tiny line in it near the front camera in the upper right... you have to have the light hit it just right to see it, I tried getting it in the pictures here but could not. I took the screen protector off now to show how clean the real screen is, there's some dust on it though.
The pictures came out a bit too big that I'd want to post here, you can see them here:
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I still have the original box and books, but am not sure which usb cable or where the actual wall wart is right now that came with it.

I won the microsoft challenge! with the gs2

Been MIA because I had to go back to stock for the past 2 weeks, ohh how I miss custom roms and ROOT privileges lol.
Anyways, just won $1000 gift card by beating them at the challenge
Post a status update to both facebook and twitter.
I got so lucky for getting this challenge! Even iPhones can win this! lol. There are many apps that allows us to do this, but damn it felt great to win.
let me just start off that the microsoft workers are really cool guys, they weren't trying to deny my win or anything, but were congratulating me with it.
But yeah came in, the greeter told the manager that i'm here to do the challenge. The greeter was really nice about everything telling me how someone just won earlier that day and told me what kind of challenges are asked. He actually helped confirmed that the app I used is fairly well known because the challenger never even heard of it lol.
But yeah the challenger comes out, asked me a couple questions, went through with telling me how things should be done. Restarted my phone, picked a card out of 6, got the said challenge and agreed to post "Hello". Turned on the phone, he told us to connect to store's wifi (you can actually use this time to set up anything just in case ahem ahem)..
put the phone down. He told us he'll count to 3 and we'll unlock the phones and do the challenge. that's when the manager was approaching. As soon as the manager got there, "3!" my phone lagged like a second more to unlock! UGH, but thank god I use swype. "Hello" DONE!. the guys were dumbfounded. the challenger only just entered the app, and only managed to type "h" when I actually waited for my thing to finished updating before yelling out done.. just precautionary measure in case they try to cheat by saying.. you can't say done when it didn't finish uploading lol. But yeah, it took no longer than 2 seconds after the manager got to us.
He asked me to show him what I did, and asked me if it posts to both accounts, and I'm like yeah, this app is actually used on computers too. He was like oh that's cool, he then said "I'm gonna have to check if widgets are allowed, I'm sure it is, but I just have to check to make sure."
He comes back, "yep, there is nothing against widgets, here's your giftcard, come over here so I can set everything up and get your info"
he announced the world that I won through his microphone... I asked to be escorted out because of that announcement. jk.. i didn't ask for escorts lol. But a couple girls approached me and asked what I'm doing afterwards .
no jk again... sigh...

That's awesome congratulations dude.
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Yeah now I need to sell my giftcard somewhere lol. a lot of resellers don't accept microsoft sighh lol

Teo032 said:
Yeah now I need to sell my giftcard somewhere lol. a lot of resellers don't accept microsoft sighh lol
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Cool Story Bro.

Well done! I wish I could do the Microsoft Challenge. But no shops in UK
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Teo032 said:
Yeah now I need to sell my giftcard somewhere lol. a lot of resellers don't accept microsoft sighh lol
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ebay or craigslist. nice job on the win
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Cool Story Bro.
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FTFY
and would you like me to tell it again?
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ebay or craigslist. nice job on the win
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lol thanks jordan, turns out I didn't need any of the other apps I scoured the interwebs for, but yeah gonna try my luck with ebay and CL. I'm gonna have to split the gift card to smaller amounts because I doubt many people want to spend 8-900 on a gc -__-

Where are you at that they are still doing the challenge? I thought that ended a couple of weeks ago. The reason I ask is because I missed it lol and want to give it a whirl.
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Where are you at that they are still doing the challenge? I thought that ended a couple of weeks ago. The reason I ask is because I missed it lol and want to give it a whirl.
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Oh they still do the challenge at every microsoft store throughout the country lol.
The challenge is different though. This is actually the 2nd extension of the original challenge so it is considered "ROUND 3."
You can no longer swap phones if you lose, instead, you get a $25gift card.
You no longer win the hunger games laptop, instead you win a $1000 gc, which I think is better.
tomorrow is the last day! So if you want to try it out then you best do it tomorrow!
maybe they will extend the challenge again! but who knows.

What! Man I'm always out of the loop then find out at the end lol. Did you have to unroot for the challenge? And what challenges do they do? Did you find any apps to be useful? I know you only had to do the status update, but I read that you were doing your homework on this stuff lol.
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There are 6 challenges:
1. take a picture, tag it, post on fb
2. send a message to a friend on fb and text the same person
3. check movie showtimes at the closest theater
4. check the status of your SO or close friend and text that person
5a/b. translation foreign language to english or english to foreign
6. status update to fb and twitter (the one i got woot)
1. Don't think our phone can win this, couldn't find a good app for it. Talked to the microsoft people and apparently their phone actually autotags it, a feature we don't have. I actually think only HTC's sense and their fb integration has a chance at this. (we'll lose this one)
2. gosms + gosms facebook chat, you can make a group text with this
3. cinemadroid is the best one, it downloads the movietimes for you and caches it, You might have trouble downloading movie showtimes in certain cities.. it takes forever... but it eventually gets it... alternative use flixter and click the movie theater not the movie they ask for because clicking on the theater automatically shows all showtimes
4. contapps, you need to fiddle with it
5. google goggles (we'll lose this one)
6. tweetdeck's widget, remember you need to click on/enable fb when you use the widget, it is design to automatically enable twitter but not fb (you'll see what I mean).
however some stores don't go by using cards and actually chooses the challenge themselves (cheap)
We basically have automatic wins at 2,3, and 6 if you don't fumble. cinemadroid is one click and you're done that is our for sure win
4. this one is a little tougher to do..
5. you'll be going against their bing translator which is similar to our google goggles but they have it precached -_- rigged
technically we have about 58% chance of winning considering #4 to be 50/50
I would say if you can't do any of the challenges within 3-4 secs, consider it a loss.

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What! Man I'm always out of the loop then find out at the end lol. Did you have to unroot for the challenge? And what challenges do they do? Did you find any apps to be useful? I know you only had to do the status update, but I read that you were doing your homework on this stuff lol.
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lol i was in the middle of posting my tips for you when you already replied, but yeah that's the best I can do. for contapps there is a tab to look at your contacts recent fb status post. choose the STATUS POST (not sure on actual term) not their fb page you'll see when you play with the app. they have you READ aloud your friend's status, so my tip for this is to just remember what your friend said, and click on that tab real quick and switch to the text tab within the same app and text him whatever you guys agree upon.
edit: oh you must link it with your social hub's facebook. so contact sync your social hub's facebook or something like that.
oh and yeah I unrooted because modified OS is against the rules... in reality, i went back to stock, removed some bloatware and deleted superuser. just don't remove all bloatware, leave some t-mobile stuff on there. The microsoft employees don't know the difference, but in case they do, it's best to remove superuser.

Thanks, I am going to give it a try tomorrow! Just one more idea, with FriendCaster Pro you can sync your contacts facebook statuses with your contact list
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Thanks, I am going to give it a try tomorrow! Just one more idea, with FriendCaster Pro you can sync your contacts facebook statuses with your contact list
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crap, I meant the challenge is over today!
the friendcaster pro status sync is way too slow and you want to text the person too.
contapps have them both built in and they're instant. there is no load period. I'm telling you, if you can't check the status and send him a text message in like 3 secs you'll lose because their widget uhh "deeplinks" does that from their homescreen

Do they check if your phone is rooted?

grimmjaw said:
Do they check if your phone is rooted?
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It says that rooted phones are not allowed, but I suppose it will depend on each individual employee as to if they actually check or not. You could download a launcher that allows you to hide apps from the app drawer and hide su. Couldn't really see them checking for anything else.
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Do they check if your phone is rooted?
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example of people not bothering to read a 1.5 page thread... in fact, it is stated 3 posts above his

Google Wallet on Fringe

Huge product placement in tonight's fringe for Android/Google Wallet
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one of those threads that could really use a link...

Jelly Bean was released?

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Huge product placement in tonight's fringe for Android/Google Wallet
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I saw it as well then wondered how many people that watch tv think it was fake lol
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akira02rex said:
Jelly Bean was released?
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Why you have to be a like that I thought it was great product placement
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Same to you...
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Can't really link to my DVR... I did Google "google wallet on fringe" and nothing obvious came up but the episode had just aired
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Can't really link to my DVR... I did Google "google wallet on fringe" and nothing obvious came up but the episode had just aired
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Lol yeah lol
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So, they've spent a few thousand dollars to promote their extremely limited service? What's that going to do? I'll bet that a good chunk of the people who are able to officially use Google Wallet are probably already using it. Instead of doing promotions, work harder on removing the damn limitations, aye Google? This service will never take off until Google puts all of its energy into removing the many barriers to use of Wallet.
Not to mention that they can't even get their product placement right - what kind of fake version of Google Wallet is that?

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So, they've spent a few thousand dollars to promote their extremely limited service? What's that going to do? I'll bet that a good chunk of the people who are able to officially use Google Wallet are probably already using it. Instead of doing promotions, work harder on removing the damn limitations, aye Google? This service will never take off until Google puts all of its energy into removing the many barriers to use of Wallet.
Not to mention that they can't even get their product placement right - what kind of fake version of Google Wallet is that?
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I got an email for Google saying that it had been expanded to five devices
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I got an email for Google saying that it had been expanded to five devices
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That expansion includes the Nexus that's sold in the Play Store and Sprint's Nexus, so it's almost like the same device. The other two are some LG devices that seem otherwise uninteresting.
Even if it were really expanded to five devices, that wouldn't be enough. The service is still only available in the USA where even chip and pin hasn't taken off. The UK, and Europe in general, would be much more accepting of Google Wallet. Networks aren't as involved in what is on a phone over here, and we're open to all sorts of new payment methods.
Not to mention that the Olympics will be here in London in two months time - a perfect opportunity to show the capability of Google Wallet on a truly global scale.

I just wish there were more places I could use google wallet. As of now I'm limited to wawa and 7-11
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I just wish I could USE google wallet again. Stupid "secure element" garbage always pops up

I love Fringe!

I saw it too...
And while it's available on 5 devices now it's not going to really take off until people can link their existing credit/debit cards to the system. I've found that I can use it quite often at checkout but until they allow more credit/debit cards I'm dealing with the PITA prepaid stuff... hate that. Now when I can use my AmEx with Google Wallet... I'll be happy.
Google really does need to get off their duffs here. ISIS can be seen on the horizon and if Apple includes it in the iPhone 5 they'll be redefining the standard.

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And while it's available on 5 devices now it's not going to really take off until people can link their existing credit/debit cards to the system. I've found that I can use it quite often at checkout but until they allow more credit/debit cards I'm dealing with the PITA prepaid stuff... hate that. Now when I can use my AmEx with Google Wallet... I'll be happy.
Google really does need to get off their duffs here. ISIS can be seen on the horizon and if Apple includes it in the iPhone 5 they'll be redefining the standard.
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If Apple chooses to introduce NFC payments with the iPhone 5, then the game is pretty much over for Google Wallet.
Apple supposedly have 250 million users who have entered their card details into iTunes. Any new iPhone model is pretty much guaranteed to sell 20 million units in its first quarter on sale. If 5% of that uses Apple's NFC solution, it will surely be much more than what Google currently have, due to their horribly limited user requirements.
Worst of all, Apple has huge amounts of capital. Huge amounts. What if they decided to use some sort of proprietary NFC solution? They could very well offer the new proprietary terminals for free to retailers around the world.
I'm worried for Google Wallet. It's a great product, but Google's painfully slow development suggests that the future isn't bright for it.

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I'm worried for Google Wallet. It's a great product, but Google's painfully slow development suggests that the future isn't bright for it.
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Really the only thing Google truly cares about is if you continue to search Google from their devices, and ad placements. Google wallet is just something they are playing around with.

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Really the only thing Google truly cares about is if you continue to search Google from their devices, and ad placements. Google wallet is just something they are playing around with.
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For now, yes. The vast majority of Google's revenue still comes from search adverts apparently. But they know that they need multiple revenue streams, and Google Wallet would be a great way to increase advert sales, as they'd be able to see what we buy and deliver relevant deals from retailers.
Perhaps it seems impossible now, but Google might not be the kings of search forever. Nokia once had around 70% global smartphone marketshare. They've proven that even giants can fall in just a few years.

There are quite a few places around here that have PayPass (just outside of Cincinnati ).
CVS, Walgreens, some Shell's, MacDonald's, Home Depot.
Biggest thing stopping me from using it more is not being able to attach it to my existing CC or Check Card. I'm not going to get a citibank card just for Google Wallet.
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Really the only thing Google truly cares about is if you continue to search Google from their devices, and ad placements. Google wallet is just something they are playing around with.
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You don't think that all that transactional detail isn't important? This could be a good thing for google to have access to search results and purchasing habits when serving up ads and offers.
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There are quite a few places around here that have PayPass (just outside of Cincinnati ).
CVS, Walgreens, some Shell's, MacDonald's, Home Depot.
Biggest thing stopping me from using it more is not being able to attach it to my existing CC or Check Card. I'm not going to get a citibank card just for Google Wallet.
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For me it's Jack in the Box, Home Depot, CVS, Rite Aid, McDonalds, Whole Foods, 7-11, American Eagle, Macy's and a few gas stations by the freeway. There's a Mastercard PayPass locator in the Play Store... I've found it to be fairly useful for finding nearby businesses.

Galaxy Note 4 Root Progress

Hello everyone, I just wanted to make a thread for us to comment on the root progress for our devices. This thread is for both developers and regular people to communicate about the progress of the root. Thanks!

So far there is no progress so this thread will stay empty. If there is progress on the future then there will be a thread started in the development section I'm pretty sure.
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This thread is to mirror Verizon's side of the root topic, we need to communicate and get on top of this. I understand there is no root, but we need to discuss the path to freedom.
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Simsron1 said:
This thread is to mirror Verizon's side of the root topic, we need to communicate and get on top of this. I understand there is no root, but we need to discuss the path to freedom.
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There is already multiple threads on this... Nice attempt though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/bounty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/att-petition-bootloader-t2949551

Those are bounties and petitions, I didn't want to clog that thread up with discussion, so that's what this is designed for.
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No offense but this thread is useless.

Android300ZX said:
No offense but this thread is useless.
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Yeah... I don't really see what there is to talk about either.
When a dev makes progress, they will post something. Until then threads like this are just 'chat rooms'.
But that's OK, in the end I don't have to read the thread, right? So carry on.

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This is where we are at right now. Seems as if the higher profile developers either dont want to say anything or claim they are not
working on the Note 4.
However! - Dont expect any dev to pop in with with "HIYA GUYS!, We are currently doing this, this and this and will have root soon! toodle doo!"
Root comes when it comes. we are confident it WILL come, but we dont know when,
Lets start hoping for Santa Claus.

To me the silence is not good. Every phone I've owned that's had root has had a dev at least mention they are looking into it or working on it. Even if vague there is usually something ....

What I'm wondering is why we aren't seeing progress. I have a few theories, such as is it because this is only two carriers who locked out a phone that isn't selling? Is it because everyone's waiting for L to drop which is supposed to have a magic root bypass? Is it because the big guns are waiting for a decent bounty?
Personally, the lack of actual dev discussion is troublesome. As if no one is even concerned at all.
For users, root is the ability to fix problems, is it possible that this phone just doesn't have the problems that would create a desperate need for root?
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Snarksneeze said:
What I'm wondering is why we aren't seeing progress. I have a few theories, such as is it because this is only two carriers who locked out a phone that isn't selling? Is it because everyone's waiting for L to drop which is supposed to have a magic root bypass? Is it because the big guns are waiting for a decent bounty?
Personally, the lack of actual dev discussion is troublesome. As if no one is even concerned at all.
For users, root is the ability to fix problems, is it possible that this phone just doesn't have the problems that would create a desperate need for root?
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I feel we are going to have to live without root. I have come to accept it, and actually don't think I will root it when/if it does happen.
This phone has developed nicely into a stable, functional platform for all I need it to do. With Android Lollipop I think that will be extended even further.

boufa said:
This phone has developed nicely into a stable, functional platform for all I need it to do. With Android Lollipop I think that will be extended even further.
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Android is about freedom. It's about being able to do what you want with the device you paid for.
Imagine if car dealers had the ability to lock out certain features in each automobile they sold.
I'm tired of companies like AT&T and Verizon trying to tell me what I can or can't do with something that I bought and paid for with my own hard-earned cash.
For years we were able to find ways around their restrictions and were able to keep our devices up to date and on the bleeding edge of innovation. But now for no good reason the very companies that rely on my continued patronage are locking down products that I own and it's getting harder to stay ahead of them.
For the majority of Android users, these are acceptable terms for being able to purchase the device with small payments over time. But even once the phone is paid for AT&T refuses to unlock the bootloaders.
I think it's time I start making my voice heard with my wallet by taking my business to companies that respect my freedom and leaving AT&T to the people who don't really care about theirs.
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Snarksneeze said:
Android is about freedom. It's about being able to do what you want with the device you paid for.
Imagine if car dealers had the ability to lock out certain features in each automobile they sold.
I'm tired of companies like AT&T and Verizon trying to tell me what I can or can't do with something that I bought and paid for with my own hard-earned cash.
For years we were able to find ways around their restrictions and were able to keep our devices up to date and on the bleeding edge of innovation. But now for no good reason the very companies that rely on my continued patronage are locking down products that I own and it's getting harder to stay ahead of them.
For the majority of Android users, these are acceptable terms for being able to purchase the device with small payments over time. But even once the phone is paid for AT&T refuses to unlock the bootloaders.
I think it's time I start making my voice heard with my wallet by taking my business to companies that respect my freedom and leaving AT&T to the people who don't really care about theirs.
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I agree with you, and to be honest, I don't know what I'd do when I get root. It's the fact that I can't do something right note that bothers me, in fact, I might not change anything but the fact that I can will keep me at ease and happy.
I would've switched to T-Mobile, but I just cannot bring myself to it with their bad coverage. I also find a certain thrill to breaking the rules, I find it fun to circumvent a multi million dollar companies attempt to "lock the hood of my car".
For that, I remain vigilant, I remain peaceful. But when root comes, I shall participate just because I can, just as once the government banned the sale, manufacture, distribution, and consumption of alcohol, many began drinking just because there was a ban.
I'm naturally rebellious, and I can't wait to rub it in their ignorant faces.
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I partially agree...if you completely paid for the phone out right, u should have option to void your warranty and root and what ever. But if you make payments, you shouldn't have the right to do what ever you want cause you don't own it. If you finance or lease a car you don't own it. And you leaving AT&T to make your voice me heard...this is a very old argument/threat..the rooting/development community is an extreme minority and you leaving cause you can't root your phone is soooo under their radar that it's like a grain of sand on a beach. I would love to root and get rid of the garbage apps and Carrier IQ. And I'm sure it will happen down the road. But AT&T will laugh behind your back and say good bye cause you will either pay off the remainder of your contract, pay off the remainder of your phone, or they made their profit off you buying phone out right. Either way, they win.
Snarksneeze said:
Android is about freedom. It's about being able to do what you want with the device you paid for.
Imagine if car dealers had the ability to lock out certain features in each automobile they sold.
I'm tired of companies like AT&T and Verizon trying to tell me what I can or can't do with something that I bought and paid for with my own hard-earned cash.
For years we were able to find ways around their restrictions and were able to keep our devices up to date and on the bleeding edge of innovation. But now for no good reason the very companies that rely on my continued patronage are locking down products that I own and it's getting harder to stay ahead of them.
For the majority of Android users, these are acceptable terms for being able to purchase the device with small payments over time. But even once the phone is paid for AT&T refuses to unlock the bootloaders.
I think it's time I start making my voice heard with my wallet by taking my business to companies that respect my freedom and leaving AT&T to the people who don't really care about theirs.
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tep065 said:
I partially agree...if you completely paid for the phone out right, u should have option to void your warranty and root and what ever. But if you make payments, you shouldn't have the right to do what ever you want cause you don't own it. If you finance or lease a car you don't own it. And you leaving AT&T to make your voice me heard...this is a very old argument/threat..the rooting/development community is an extreme minority and you leaving cause you can't root your phone is soooo under their radar that it's like a grain of sand on a beach. I would love to root and get rid of the garbage apps and Carrier IQ. And I'm sure it will happen down the road. But AT&T will laugh behind your back and say good bye cause you will either pay off the remainder of your contract, pay off the remainder of your phone, or they made their profit off you buying phone out right. Either way, they win.
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It's unfortunate, but true.
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Coming from a Nexus 5 with a flashing addiction I'm completely happy with my at&t edge even without root. I thought I'd get the shakes and freak out but I'm alright. I just want root for viper4android honestly and I wouldn't mind maybe a debloated slightly tweaked rom but I can live without both.

It looks like it the AT&T Note 4 is going to get root someone who is posting on these forms is going to have to learn how to do it. I have not seen anything about anyone even looking at getting root for this device.
After the problems the Note3 had on AT&T most devs just avoided this variant all together.
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It's too bad, because I really want this phone, but I want root. Otherwise it will feel like a downgrade from my Note 3. :crying:

sireniankyle said:
It's too bad, because I really want this phone, but I want root. Otherwise it will feel like a downgrade from my Note 3. :crying:
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I've seen and held my friend's Note 3, it's not a downgrade in any area :good:

Clienterror said:
Coming from a Nexus 5 with a flashing addiction I'm completely happy with my at&t edge even without root. I thought I'd get the shakes and freak out but I'm alright. I just want root for viper4android honestly and I wouldn't mind maybe a debloated slightly tweaked rom but I can live without both.
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Yeah viper, xposed, greenify, amplify is all really want from root.

Blocking updated?

I have a "fixed" Note 7 and I understand I have to turn it in but I want to wait as long as I can. I know I seen on here a way to block OTA updates. Something about freezing system apps? I wan't to block any battery crippling updates Samsung puts out. I just want to wait to see if I can make it till S8 comes out.

It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.

Disabling these bottom four will end future updates.

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Disabling these bottom four will end future updates.
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Four? Or all 7?

projectrs2 said:
Four? Or all 7?
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You can do all seven but the bottom for is the main one you want to disable.

I am on Verizon and do not have some of the ones that you are showing that are checked in Package Disabler Pro. Anyone on Verizon have these to disable future updates?

lawrence750 said:
It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
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That's why I put fixed in quotation marks
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This is what I disabled. Am I good to go?

Fahrenheit85 said:
That's why I put fixed in quotation marks
This is what I disabled. Am I good to go?
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Yes no more updates ever...

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I had all of those disabled at AT&T and many more (lessons learned from from the note 5) . Guess what, they pushed the update anyway in the middle of the night with no prompt that will let me cancel.

also install a firewall just in case.
its far fetched to think samy could have their system apps pass on/tunnel your personal data via other innocent apps (im definitely sure google is doing it to ensure they gather as much data from us as possible). if I'm wrong, at least a firewall saves you on wireless 4g data charges

This is the only thing we can do if we want to keep the phone, if it goes through then it will force the keepers to switch if it doesn't we'll see how long we can last without updated/support.

borisb said:
I had all of those disabled at AT&T and many more (lessons learned from from the note 5) . Guess what, they pushed the update anyway in the middle of the night with no prompt that will let me cancel.
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are you sure you disabled all update packages? damn that's scary to realised you don't actually own the phone you bought, your just leasing a product with the illusion of full control...

sonhy said:
are you sure you disabled all update packages? damn that's scary to realised you don't actually own the phone you bought, your just leasing a product with the illusion of full control...
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Yes I did. Had the note 5 remember?
It was crazy scary, especially when the phone turned blue and AT&T logo popped out without a warning.
It was doing something for nearly 10-20 minutes with a bar on the bottom of the screen (so I knew it was doing something).
it was in recovery mode and did not have the running android logo (like updates usually do).
I was worried to turn it off cause I did not want my phone to be bricked. When it turned back on I got the message that I must return the phone (and it kept of popping every time I charged it).
So, I am 100% positive that AT&T, and Samsung can do what they want.
Also, yesterday before I returned the phone my line got suspended. But my line is a corporate line so the company just decided to force me to return it.

damn, that's dodgy.

Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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evo4g63t said:
Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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Here, ill give you my reason. I go upgrade to the s7 edge tonight. Now, when the new note or whatever it is with the stylus comes out, I cant upgrade yet. Whereas if I still had/have this, then I could with the note even year deal or whatever its called with Verizon. I guarantee im not the only one in this boat.

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It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
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Yet another policeman. How the **** do you know if there's anything wrong with his or not. This is getting REALLY tedious.
FWIW, having wiped my Note 7 and boxed it up, I've changed my mind. I am keeping it for a month or two to see what pans out, news of S8 availability, take a look at the Pixel etc.
There's no rush to get them swapped and I not could give a pico-sh1t about the "explosion" risk. Seriously when ZERO have had any issues in the UK. None, nil, nada. Why would anyone be so concerned. Sure there may be a small risk but let's keep this in perspective, please.
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Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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And I can't figure out why people like you are so insistent on ramming your opinions down others' throats.
I will change mine in a month or two once theirs more alternative devices either available or announced. What's YOUR problem with what I do with MY phone?

Chippy_boy said:
Yet another policeman. How the **** do you know if there's anything wrong with his or not. This is getting REALLY tedious.
FWIW, having wiped my Note 7 and boxed it up, I've changed my mind. I am keeping it for a month or two to see what pans out, news of S8 availability, take a look at the Pixel etc.
There's no rush to get them swapped and I not could give a pico-sh1t about the "explosion" risk.
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No not at all, just not a complete moron who thinks he knows better than the multi billion dollar company (with people way way smarter than any of us) who would have done anything in their power to make sure that this didn't happen. You think they would have stopped production for something that's easily fixed? Come on, use your brain!
How do I know if there's anything wrong with his or not? I don't - nobody does - that's the problem... duh? No one can surely say that it will or won't blow up at any time, and you've got hundreds of these idiots going 'hmm, i know better than samsung, mines cool for now, therefore its always gonna be fine'
And thereby not only putting their own selfish ass at risk, but other people who they might be around at that time, god forbid it did explode/set on fire.
It's ridiculous. This whole thing should never have happened, but people insisting on keeping something that is known to randomly (until they can reproduce it, unless they already have and aren't disclosing it) set on fire, and that is just complete stupidity, and nothing else.

lawrence750 said:
No not at all, just not a complete moron who thinks he knows better than the multi billion dollar company (with people way way smarter than any of us) who would have done anything in their power to make sure that this didn't happen. You think they would have stopped production for something that's easily fixed? Come on, use your brain!
How do I know if there's anything wrong with his or not? I don't - nobody does - that's the problem... duh? No one can surely say that it will or won't blow up at any time, and you've got hundreds of these idiots going 'hmm, i know better than samsung, mines cool for now, therefore its always gonna be fine'
And thereby not only putting their own selfish ass at risk, but other people who they might be around at that time, god forbid it did explode/set on fire.
It's ridiculous. This whole thing should never have happened, but people insisting on keeping something that is known to randomly (until they can reproduce it, unless they already have and aren't disclosing it) set on fire, and that is just complete stupidity, and nothing else.
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Yawn. It was a no brainer for Samsung to discontinue it. They could be 100% confident they would have many more fires and other issues.
Any single user can be 99.99% confident they will not.
If you don't get that, I suggest you have a quick read up on probabilities 101.

@Chippy_boy dont waste your energy man, there will always be people who are just upset in general... they start the fire the moment they hear someone scream witch just continue to help like minded others and ignore their verbal traps, it'll eat them up inside every time they come back here... otherwise they wouldn't come back to troll about a phone they don't have