Hello everyone, I just wanted to make a thread for us to comment on the root progress for our devices. This thread is for both developers and regular people to communicate about the progress of the root. Thanks!
So far there is no progress so this thread will stay empty. If there is progress on the future then there will be a thread started in the development section I'm pretty sure.
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This thread is to mirror Verizon's side of the root topic, we need to communicate and get on top of this. I understand there is no root, but we need to discuss the path to freedom.
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Simsron1 said:
This thread is to mirror Verizon's side of the root topic, we need to communicate and get on top of this. I understand there is no root, but we need to discuss the path to freedom.
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There is already multiple threads on this... Nice attempt though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/bounty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/att-petition-bootloader-t2949551
Those are bounties and petitions, I didn't want to clog that thread up with discussion, so that's what this is designed for.
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No offense but this thread is useless.
Android300ZX said:
No offense but this thread is useless.
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Yeah... I don't really see what there is to talk about either.
When a dev makes progress, they will post something. Until then threads like this are just 'chat rooms'.
But that's OK, in the end I don't have to read the thread, right? So carry on.
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This is where we are at right now. Seems as if the higher profile developers either dont want to say anything or claim they are not
working on the Note 4.
However! - Dont expect any dev to pop in with with "HIYA GUYS!, We are currently doing this, this and this and will have root soon! toodle doo!"
Root comes when it comes. we are confident it WILL come, but we dont know when,
Lets start hoping for Santa Claus.
To me the silence is not good. Every phone I've owned that's had root has had a dev at least mention they are looking into it or working on it. Even if vague there is usually something ....
What I'm wondering is why we aren't seeing progress. I have a few theories, such as is it because this is only two carriers who locked out a phone that isn't selling? Is it because everyone's waiting for L to drop which is supposed to have a magic root bypass? Is it because the big guns are waiting for a decent bounty?
Personally, the lack of actual dev discussion is troublesome. As if no one is even concerned at all.
For users, root is the ability to fix problems, is it possible that this phone just doesn't have the problems that would create a desperate need for root?
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Snarksneeze said:
What I'm wondering is why we aren't seeing progress. I have a few theories, such as is it because this is only two carriers who locked out a phone that isn't selling? Is it because everyone's waiting for L to drop which is supposed to have a magic root bypass? Is it because the big guns are waiting for a decent bounty?
Personally, the lack of actual dev discussion is troublesome. As if no one is even concerned at all.
For users, root is the ability to fix problems, is it possible that this phone just doesn't have the problems that would create a desperate need for root?
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I feel we are going to have to live without root. I have come to accept it, and actually don't think I will root it when/if it does happen.
This phone has developed nicely into a stable, functional platform for all I need it to do. With Android Lollipop I think that will be extended even further.
boufa said:
This phone has developed nicely into a stable, functional platform for all I need it to do. With Android Lollipop I think that will be extended even further.
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Android is about freedom. It's about being able to do what you want with the device you paid for.
Imagine if car dealers had the ability to lock out certain features in each automobile they sold.
I'm tired of companies like AT&T and Verizon trying to tell me what I can or can't do with something that I bought and paid for with my own hard-earned cash.
For years we were able to find ways around their restrictions and were able to keep our devices up to date and on the bleeding edge of innovation. But now for no good reason the very companies that rely on my continued patronage are locking down products that I own and it's getting harder to stay ahead of them.
For the majority of Android users, these are acceptable terms for being able to purchase the device with small payments over time. But even once the phone is paid for AT&T refuses to unlock the bootloaders.
I think it's time I start making my voice heard with my wallet by taking my business to companies that respect my freedom and leaving AT&T to the people who don't really care about theirs.
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Android is about freedom. It's about being able to do what you want with the device you paid for.
Imagine if car dealers had the ability to lock out certain features in each automobile they sold.
I'm tired of companies like AT&T and Verizon trying to tell me what I can or can't do with something that I bought and paid for with my own hard-earned cash.
For years we were able to find ways around their restrictions and were able to keep our devices up to date and on the bleeding edge of innovation. But now for no good reason the very companies that rely on my continued patronage are locking down products that I own and it's getting harder to stay ahead of them.
For the majority of Android users, these are acceptable terms for being able to purchase the device with small payments over time. But even once the phone is paid for AT&T refuses to unlock the bootloaders.
I think it's time I start making my voice heard with my wallet by taking my business to companies that respect my freedom and leaving AT&T to the people who don't really care about theirs.
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I agree with you, and to be honest, I don't know what I'd do when I get root. It's the fact that I can't do something right note that bothers me, in fact, I might not change anything but the fact that I can will keep me at ease and happy.
I would've switched to T-Mobile, but I just cannot bring myself to it with their bad coverage. I also find a certain thrill to breaking the rules, I find it fun to circumvent a multi million dollar companies attempt to "lock the hood of my car".
For that, I remain vigilant, I remain peaceful. But when root comes, I shall participate just because I can, just as once the government banned the sale, manufacture, distribution, and consumption of alcohol, many began drinking just because there was a ban.
I'm naturally rebellious, and I can't wait to rub it in their ignorant faces.
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I partially agree...if you completely paid for the phone out right, u should have option to void your warranty and root and what ever. But if you make payments, you shouldn't have the right to do what ever you want cause you don't own it. If you finance or lease a car you don't own it. And you leaving AT&T to make your voice me heard...this is a very old argument/threat..the rooting/development community is an extreme minority and you leaving cause you can't root your phone is soooo under their radar that it's like a grain of sand on a beach. I would love to root and get rid of the garbage apps and Carrier IQ. And I'm sure it will happen down the road. But AT&T will laugh behind your back and say good bye cause you will either pay off the remainder of your contract, pay off the remainder of your phone, or they made their profit off you buying phone out right. Either way, they win.
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Android is about freedom. It's about being able to do what you want with the device you paid for.
Imagine if car dealers had the ability to lock out certain features in each automobile they sold.
I'm tired of companies like AT&T and Verizon trying to tell me what I can or can't do with something that I bought and paid for with my own hard-earned cash.
For years we were able to find ways around their restrictions and were able to keep our devices up to date and on the bleeding edge of innovation. But now for no good reason the very companies that rely on my continued patronage are locking down products that I own and it's getting harder to stay ahead of them.
For the majority of Android users, these are acceptable terms for being able to purchase the device with small payments over time. But even once the phone is paid for AT&T refuses to unlock the bootloaders.
I think it's time I start making my voice heard with my wallet by taking my business to companies that respect my freedom and leaving AT&T to the people who don't really care about theirs.
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tep065 said:
I partially agree...if you completely paid for the phone out right, u should have option to void your warranty and root and what ever. But if you make payments, you shouldn't have the right to do what ever you want cause you don't own it. If you finance or lease a car you don't own it. And you leaving AT&T to make your voice me heard...this is a very old argument/threat..the rooting/development community is an extreme minority and you leaving cause you can't root your phone is soooo under their radar that it's like a grain of sand on a beach. I would love to root and get rid of the garbage apps and Carrier IQ. And I'm sure it will happen down the road. But AT&T will laugh behind your back and say good bye cause you will either pay off the remainder of your contract, pay off the remainder of your phone, or they made their profit off you buying phone out right. Either way, they win.
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It's unfortunate, but true.
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Coming from a Nexus 5 with a flashing addiction I'm completely happy with my at&t edge even without root. I thought I'd get the shakes and freak out but I'm alright. I just want root for viper4android honestly and I wouldn't mind maybe a debloated slightly tweaked rom but I can live without both.
It looks like it the AT&T Note 4 is going to get root someone who is posting on these forms is going to have to learn how to do it. I have not seen anything about anyone even looking at getting root for this device.
After the problems the Note3 had on AT&T most devs just avoided this variant all together.
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It's too bad, because I really want this phone, but I want root. Otherwise it will feel like a downgrade from my Note 3. :crying:
sireniankyle said:
It's too bad, because I really want this phone, but I want root. Otherwise it will feel like a downgrade from my Note 3. :crying:
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I've seen and held my friend's Note 3, it's not a downgrade in any area :good:
Clienterror said:
Coming from a Nexus 5 with a flashing addiction I'm completely happy with my at&t edge even without root. I thought I'd get the shakes and freak out but I'm alright. I just want root for viper4android honestly and I wouldn't mind maybe a debloated slightly tweaked rom but I can live without both.
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Yeah viper, xposed, greenify, amplify is all really want from root.
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Oh no not another loose hinge thread!
I actually CAN live with it... I still think this phone is pretty awesome and I can just use my index fingers to keep it up when typing on my bed and it's not too ridiculously loose that it moves around by itself.
However, after hearing so many people say confidently that they'll eventually fix it... I wanna ask the question of how many of you actually think they'll address this issue.
I know some people say it's not even an issue the phone is suppose to be like that... some people will say that it isn't because some hinges aren't loose... and the other people that say that even it if isn't loose now it'll become loose.
Also the issue with the 4GB ROM... think that'll be address?
This phone isn't quite as popular as the iPhone and the issue at hand isn't quite as drastic as the loss of reception while holding the phone issue. Apple at first tried to play it off as "you guys aren't holding your phone right!" I'm pretty sure HTC would do the same thing. The phone isn't quite as main stream as the iPhone either so I for one really doubt for there to be a "fix". Not that I wouldn't want one... but just saying.
TL;DR - Who really think they'll fix the issues with the hinge and 4GB ROM
No and no.
I've begun to think a permanent root is also impossible. Without having to rip it apart or using that expensive wire and chip.
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I thought the 4Gb thing had been pretty much put to rest? Nothing really to fix, just need real root so we can get rid of all the junk taking up most of that 4Gb. As far as the hinge issue, they aren't going to do anything. My wife is a T-Mobile employee and they are training people that the official stance is that the issue does not exist. The phones hinge is that way by design from HTC. Now their is plenty of proof out their that some are worse than others, but almost none are so bad that it actually hinders the use of the phone. Mine is loose, but I have gotten used to it. They have been pretty loose with their exchange requirements, so its really not hard to get a replacement with minimum hassle if you believe you have a real defect. But as far as official acknowledgement and "fixes " for these "issues", I think the chances are slim to none.
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ddgarcia05 said:
No and no.
I've begun to think a permanent root is also impossible. Without having to rip it apart or using that expensive wire and chip.
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held me at gunpoint and stole the words right out of my mouth. for shame htc, for shame tsk tsk tsk
ddgarcia05 said:
No and no.
I've begun to think a permanent root is also impossible. Without having to rip it apart or using that expensive wire and chip.
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I'm not too saavy with all the mechanics and complicated code behind rooting but I hope that someone gets the permaroot down. If there's a will there's a will? *Shrugs* At least we have the VISIONary temp root for now. Hell if we're going to crack the phone open for a root I might just crack the whole phone down and try to make the hinge stronger just for kicks.
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I thought the 4Gb thing had been pretty much put to rest? Nothing really to fix, just need real root so we can get rid of all the junk taking up most of that 4Gb. As far as the hinge issue, they aren't going to do anything. My wife is a T-Mobile employee and they are training people that the official stance is that the issue does not exist. The phones hinge is that way by design from HTC. Now their is plenty of proof out their that some are worse than others, but almost none are so bad that it actually hinders the use of the phone. Mine is loose, but I have gotten used to it. They have been pretty loose with their exchange requirements, so its really not hard to get a replacement with minimum hassle if you believe you have a real defect. But as far as official acknowledgement and "fixes " for these "issues", I think the chances are slim to none.
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First... I like how it said Sent from my rooted space banana using telekinesis at the end. Second... I thought that T-Mobile would do that, the phone and issue just isn't too drastic enough for HTC and T-Mobile to fix such issues. As far as the 4GB is concerned, I read that it was some partition crap on another thread and probably misinterpreted that... but still I would like to believe that this phone would be capable of more space than 1.2-1.5GB's if the space was better utilized. Who knows, I hopped from a BlackBerry/iPhone platform to this so I'm still pretty new to all this.
No way. The phone is out for one mere month. Come on ! What was it that took all your hope away?
We have so many geeks working on this little phone and I don't believe their perspiration is pointless.
zj45499 said:
No way. The phone is out for one mere month. Come on ! What was it that took all your hope away?
We have so many geeks working on this little phone and I don't believe their perspiration is pointless.
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Agreed. Although, I don't think they would appreciate being called geeks!
To the OP regarding the hinge issue: invest 99 cents in some velcro tape and put just the tiniest bit between the screen and keyboard. Voila! Your keyboard stays open as you type hanging upside down like a winged nocturnal rodent. Then call HTC and offer your services as hardware engineer extraordinaire.
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Well I'm not quite as bugged by it more that the point of the thread was to see who really thinks that HTC's going to address this issue.
KeithRVA said:
To the OP regarding the hinge issue: invest 99 cents in some velcro tape and put just the tiniest bit between the screen and keyboard. Voila! Your keyboard stays open as you type hanging upside down like a winged nocturnal rodent. Then call HTC and offer your services as hardware engineer extraordinaire.
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That's actually a good idea.
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That's actually a good idea.
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Thanks, I actually use velcro tape on my G2, and it's a cheap effective solution to a minor issue. Now I can text lying in bed, life is good.
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If it is possible to update the stock ROM via OTA, then it's is possible to root it and install third party ROM.
All we need to wait is an OTA update...
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If it is possible to update the stock ROM via OTA, then it's is possible to root it and install third party ROM.
All we need to wait is an OTA update...
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Agree, but I have to say, I chuckled when I had this thought while reading the wiki etc.: What if they DID screw up and, in fact, the device CAN'T be updated due to a bug in the NAND locking? Honestly, that'd be just fine with me, because it'd mean that they can't screw up our temp root, and frankly, temp root plus wifi tether is all I need. I realize that others want more, and don't get me wrong, I'd certainly try a Cyanogen or other well-cooked ROM if it becomes possible.
What I *don't* want to have happen is an OTA that closes the temp root loophole, but still doesn't let us figure out how to do permanent root, effectively locking us out of the device.
Brad
All I can say is that my next phone will not be an HTC phone.
There's a way around everything just hasn't been figured out yet. The phone isn't even a month old yet. Give it some time. We WILL have perm root.
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Or you can just shoot a load up into the hinges. Thats what brian boytono would do.
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KeithRVA said:
Thanks, I actually use velcro tape on my G2, and it's a cheap effective solution to a minor issue. Now I can text lying in bed, life is good.
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I'd actually like to see that in a picture.... care to upload? I would think that the velcro would be too thick or would get annoying cause you'd hear it everytime you move it up and down. Please show them pictures!
wayde187 said:
Or you can just shoot a load up into the hinges. Thats what brian boytono would do.
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I'm sorry I didn't get what that last part meant =[
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I'm sorry I didn't get what that last part meant =[
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It's a bodily fluid / figure skater reference. It probably makes you a more intelligent person NOT to "get it".
Willie133 said:
I'd actually like to see that in a picture.... care to upload? I would think that the velcro would be too thick or would get annoying cause you'd hear it everytime you move it up and down. Please show them pictures!
I'm sorry I didn't get what that last part meant =[
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The velcro doesn't add any thickness at all the way I did it. But it does make the velcro sound when closing the keyboard, it's not really noticeable after the first few times. Will post pics when I get a chance.
edit: here are pics, not terribly difficult to figure out where to put the velcro to keep the keyboard open...
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https://www.eff.org/pages/jailbreaking-not-crime-tell-copyright-office-free-your-devices
Take a look at the article and make a simple comment about what being able to legally root your phone means to you. The exemption that the dmca ruled on in 2010 is about to expire so let's make sure it gets renewed.
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From what I hear jailbreaking iphones allows access to free paid apps, which is different than rooting android. However, I'm sure this should apply to both android and iphone users. If it became illegal, what would happen if we got caught? Jailed, fined, terminated by carrier?
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Overstew said:
From what I hear jailbreaking iphones allows access to free paid apps, which is different than rooting android. However, I'm sure this should apply to both android and iphone users. If it became illegal, what would happen if we got caught? Jailed, fined, terminated by carrier?
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Well, Android has access to free paid apps without root. The act of jailbreaking and stealing apps are two different things I would think.
Same with modding consoles, you aren't doing anything illegal unless you download games which you never paid for and play them.
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The act of jailbreaking and stealing apps are two different things I would think.
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I would absolutely agree with this. Just because I want to root my device, does not mean I desire to steal anything... in fact I buy paid apps all the time when I probably could get them for free if I looked enough.
The worst thing I have probably ever done (if you consider it wrong) as a benefit of root access, is tether my phones 3G connection (I don't get wimax) to my tablet for free. I don't consider this wrong because I am paying for the data service from Sprint, if I choose to share that with my own personal tablet, that should be my choice. I don't do it for my laptop cuz I have a much faster wifi connection at home, but its convenient for the tablet.
THe original ruling on this was in responce to Apple wanting to make it a crome to jail break the phone. The ruling said Jail breaking was legal for fair use IE being able to do customizations and use features the device would support that the Manufacturer did not want to support. These things have not changed the ruling was for fair use. you bought it you can do what you want with it. But the carriers and manufacturer's have the rigth to deny waranty if you do.
Considering Android is open source and we 'own' our phones, we can do what ever we want with them.
Without rooting, we could not access and remove the crap software that our carriers try to force down our throats. We never would have been able to remove CIQ or even know it was there. We would be helpless and putting control of everything we do into hands of the people we pay our money to every month. I don't trust my service provider to maintain my interests for me.
Its my understanding that jail breaking just lets you install apps that aren't in the app store which sounds legal to me
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Well, Android has access to free paid apps without root. The act of jailbreaking and stealing apps are two different things I would think.
Same with modding consoles, you aren't doing anything illegal unless you download games which you never paid for and play them.
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I just mentioned it because my cousin wanted to jailbreak his ipod to get free paid apps. I didn't necessarily mean everyone steals with rooting/jailbreaking. It was just the first thing that came to mind. The biggest reason i'd see this law passing is because of the misuse of tethering.
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I would absolutely agree with this. Just because I want to root my device, does not mean I desire to steal anything... in fact I buy paid apps all the time when I probably could get them for free if I looked enough.
The worst thing I have probably ever done (if you consider it wrong) as a benefit of root access, is tether my phones 3G connection (I don't get wimax) to my tablet for free. I don't consider this wrong because I am paying for the data service from Sprint, if I choose to share that with my own personal tablet, that should be my choice. I don't do it for my laptop cuz I have a much faster wifi connection at home, but its convenient for the tablet.
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while i do understand this, it becomes a conflict of interest because sprint offers the same service on your phone for $30/month... so while TECHNICALLY you didnt agree to ONLY use your data for your phone, they do offer the same service you arent paying for. kinda like using your buddy next door's cable. he pays for it, and doesnt mind at all that you use the other cable box from his service, but its still frowned upon. its a gray area, im not sure what kind of action the carriers can take other than drop you... not that i agree, i use hotspot too...
I hope it stays legal.
Hell all the damn money these carriers and phone manufacture's make off of us it should stay legal, at least for android phones. I could give a **** less about apple and their attitude against everyone and everything! They will put themselves out of business. But android wouldnt be android without Root/jailbreaking and everything that comes along with it. IF they ever took that away I will just use a phone for a phone and go to metro piece of **** or something!
In the apple spectrum, those slimy bastards that make fun of our everything android that's of lesser quality and how they are superior beings for being ifags, for them to go out and steal from the developers is just wrong and should be justifiable with punishment.
In the android spectrum, we don't want to steal. We just want to get the maximum potential out of our device that carriers for some odd reason try and hold back.
Probably because an android phone can last longer. Meaning: keep more interest in the end user for them not to upgrade earlier if they have rooting/rom capabilities keeping this new,fresh, and exciting. Which in turn makes less money for the carrier. But honestly i don't go to the carrier to have a bogged down **** phone and be a helpless lemon and just be forced to upgrade. I want the best bang for my buck and the sooner Carriers realize this the better we will talk of them.
well thats just like everything else these days! They make flat screen tv's to go out in 4or 5 years when the old box tv's would last 20-30 years. Cars are made to die after 150,000 miles or less and now they come out with new phones every couple of months to entice people into keeping up with the jones's and having to have the best instead of just rooting your phone and haveing anything you want on it! If we lose the ability to root and hack our phones, it will clearly be a step backwards...
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well thats just like everything else these days! They make flat screen tv's to go out in 4or 5 years when the old box tv's would last 20-30 years. Cars are made to die after 150,000 miles or less and now they come out with new phones every couple of months to entice people into keeping up with the jones's and having to have the best instead of just rooting your phone and haveing anything you want on it! If we lose the ability to root and hack our phones, it will clearly be a step backwards...
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man, i just REALLY like your sig. and, i agree with ^
We are suppose to be making stuff biodegradeable and recycling and making less waste! But these companys making the products we have to use everyday like tv's, cars, computers, phones, ect.. are filling up our land fills and creating soooo much waste and ruining our planet! It has been said that at the rate we are going now by the year 2030 we will need at least 2 planet earths to sustain everyone. Its all about GREED and GREED only. The people running everything on this planet are only thinking about their lifetime and maybe their childrens.
If it wasn't bad enough losing file share websites, now this crap? If we can't root, I won't own an Android. It is easy to steal apps, but with these websites down, I am sure it forces more people to buy them. And how are we supposed to get all of our custom ROMs with no website to host them?
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I've had a Note3 for 6 months now (after many years of Nexus) and I have to say I am disappointed with it...except for the screen size which seems to be the only thing I like. I only bought Samsung because its just about the only company offering microSD + removable batteries (god knows why HTC wont follow suit on these features). I am a heavy user and I need extended batteries...I also need microSD over cloud for those rural areas...or when I cant get a signal in a large brick building. I've had my eye on large phones for a while and I thought I would fall in love with the note...but the Samsung experience leaves a lot to be desired. Knox, Touchwiz + Samsung bloatware/apps all kill the user experience. Why on earth would Samsung even try to take on Google calendar with such an inferior calendar app? I hear rumors of Samsung wanting to kill 3rd party accessories + developing Tizen OS. Why would I support this? If I wanted a closed ecosystem with officially licensed accessories and proprietary connectors then I would join the cult of Apple.
Anyway, I rooted my note3 today and I am looking into a custom ROM. I hope this will change my feelings for this phone. Sorry to rant, but I had to get it off my chest and I wanted to know if anyone else felt this way.
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I've had a Note3 for 6 months now (after many years of Nexus) and I have to say I am disappointed with it...except for the screen size which seems to be the only thing I like. I only bought Samsung because its just about the only company offering microSD + removable batteries (god knows why HTC wont follow suit on these features). I am a heavy user and I need extended batteries...I also need microSD over cloud for those rural areas...or when I cant get a signal in a large brick building. I've had my eye on large phones for a while and I thought I would fall in love with the note...but the Samsung experience leaves a lot to be desired. Knox, Touchwiz + Samsung bloatware/apps all kill the user experience. Why on earth would Samsung even try to take on Google calendar with such an inferior calendar app? I hear rumors of Samsung wanting to kill 3rd party accessories + developing Tizen OS. Why would I support this? If I wanted a closed ecosystem with officially licensed accessories and proprietary connectors then I would join the cult of Apple.
Anyway, I rooted my note3 today and I am looking into a custom ROM. I hope this will change my feelings for this phone. Sorry to rant, but I had to get it off my chest and I wanted to know if anyone else felt this way.
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use an aosp rom. or CM
ianmck said:
I've had a Note3 for 6 months now (after many years of Nexus) and I have to say I am disappointed with it...except for the screen size which seems to be the only thing I like. I only bought Samsung because its just about the only company offering microSD + removable batteries (god knows why HTC wont follow suit on these features). I am a heavy user and I need extended batteries...I also need microSD over cloud for those rural areas...or when I cant get a signal in a large brick building. I've had my eye on large phones for a while and I thought I would fall in love with the note...but the Samsung experience leaves a lot to be desired. Knox, Touchwiz + Samsung bloatware/apps all kill the user experience. Why on earth would Samsung even try to take on Google calendar with such an inferior calendar app? I hear rumors of Samsung wanting to kill 3rd party accessories + developing Tizen OS. Why would I support this? If I wanted a closed ecosystem with officially licensed accessories and proprietary connectors then I would join the cult of Apple.
Anyway, I rooted my note3 today and I am looking into a custom ROM. I hope this will change my feelings for this phone. Sorry to rant, but I had to get it off my chest and I wanted to know if anyone else felt this way.
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what does knox have to do with anything.... you dont have to touch knox... i dont think you even own the note lol sorry but you can replace any app with the google store.... is the note 3 tizen again you fail cuz the note 3 is running android..... you dont own the note 3 cuz you can buy the 10000mah battery zero lemon and you can buy the 128gb sd card the note 3 support it again
i dont think you own the note 3 sorry
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if you do own the note 3 and its rooted now you can deleted any bloatware or any app and replace with anything you like again this is android learn how to use
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what does knox have to do with anything.... you dont have to touch knox... i dont think you even own the note lol sorry but you can replace any app with the google store.... is the note 3 tizen again you fail cuz the note 3 is running android..... you dont own the note 3 cuz you can buy the 10000mah battery zero lemon and you can buy the 128gb sd card the note 3 support it again
i dont think you own the note 3 sorry
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if you do own the note 3 and its rooted now you can deleted any bloatware or any app and replace with anything you like again this is android learn how to use
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Yeah, I was saying those are the reasons I dont want to support a company like Samsung...but the only reason I bought Samsung is because NO ONE ELSE with a "phablet" has microsd or removable battery. For the first 4 months, Knox bothered me daily with warnings about (non-existant) software issues. Obviously the Note is running Android, but Samsung is developing Tizen for one reason....they want to circumvent Android altogether when the time is right. There is also talk of Samsung using RFID chips in their accessories so you can only by officially licensed accessories (ie...no 3rd party). All I am really saying is that I love the screen size...but I hate the Samsung experience. Sure, I can root to fix these problems but I now voided my warranty and if I bricked this thing I would be screwed...the note costs a LOT.
Roflmao sell it and move on its pretty simple
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No offense, but it sounds like you should have done more research before buying a $600 phone. You could go into any wireless store and play with the phone. Granted, some things can only be experienced or discovered with prolonged use over a period of time but you could have gotten a feel for Touchwiz, etc. in just a few short minutes. And there are plenty of threads here and elsewhere that offer suggestions and/or user experience stories that could serve as research before buying.
If you are on T-Mobile (hopefully so, since this forum is for the T-Mobile Note 3), then you are lucky in that it is more lenient when it comes to RMA-ing or replacing rooted phones. I think you will find that taking control of your device via rooting will more than offset the loss of warranty. The community here is very supportive, and as long as you are willing to read some threads and educate yourself they will answer any other questions you may have.
You had the phone for 6 months and barely just now rooted it? Not saying the note 3 is a horrible experience without root but dayyyumnnn thats a first thing agenda for me(and im sure lots of other people too). Most of your gripes are simple fixes even without root, but after its rooted you really have nothing to complain about. Educate yourself through these forums or even youtube on how to debloat touchwiz and find a rom and custom kernel that works for you.
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This is an awesome phone first one I actually use touch wiz normally I use aosp cuz stock basically sucked . Im rooted and touchwiz no issues . But I rooted after 1 day lol. And as the previous user said youtube is your bff.the only reason I would even leave samsung is if they dont stop with that damn home button .
DEMON GALAXY NO SOULS NOTED !!!!!
I've had this phone since day 1. Still love and don't see myself jumping even when the note 4 comes out. Anyone complaining about the phone WITHOUT using a custom rom is...... What i love most about this phone is the money it saved me by allowing to cancel my internet service. Thanks Wicked!
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I've only had this phone for about a month. I bought it off of Swappa. It came rooted already with just a stock ROM. I ignore all the Samsung stuff. I'm just waiting for 4.3.3 to fix some of the issues with 4.3.2. Love this thing!
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I've only had this phone for about a month. I bought it off of Swappa. It came rooted already with just a stock ROM. I ignore all the Samsung stuff. I'm just waiting for 4.3.3 to fix some of the issues with 4.3.2. Love this thing!
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Hey Raymond, I remember you from the vibrant days. How you been men. Good to see you here.
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The best advice anyone has ever given me... stop hating things for what they aren't but instead love things for what they are.
ianmck said:
I've had a Note3 for 6 months now (after many years of Nexus) and I have to say I am disappointed with it...except for the screen size which seems to be the only thing I like. I only bought Samsung because its just about the only company offering microSD + removable batteries (god knows why HTC wont follow suit on these features). I am a heavy user and I need extended batteries...I also need microSD over cloud for those rural areas...or when I cant get a signal in a large brick building. I've had my eye on large phones for a while and I thought I would fall in love with the note...but the Samsung experience leaves a lot to be desired. Knox, Touchwiz + Samsung bloatware/apps all kill the user experience. Why on earth would Samsung even try to take on Google calendar with such an inferior calendar app? I hear rumors of Samsung wanting to kill 3rd party accessories + developing Tizen OS. Why would I support this? If I wanted a closed ecosystem with officially licensed accessories and proprietary connectors then I would join the cult of Apple.
Anyway, I rooted my note3 today and I am looking into a custom ROM. I hope this will change my feelings for this phone. Sorry to rant, but I had to get it off my chest and I wanted to know if anyone else felt this way.
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you do realize that if not Sammy, LG and HTC do the same thing too. it's called optimization and customization to your personal liking to make a phone truly "your's".
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jcbennett said:
No offense, but it sounds like you should have done more research before buying a $600 phone. You could go into any wireless store and play with the phone. Granted, some things can only be experienced or discovered with prolonged use over a period of time but you could have gotten a feel for Touchwiz, etc. in just a few short minutes. And there are plenty of threads here and elsewhere that offer suggestions and/or user experience stories that could serve as research before buying.
If you are on T-Mobile (hopefully so, since this forum is for the T-Mobile Note 3), then you are lucky in that it is more lenient when it comes to RMA-ing or replacing rooted phones. I think you will find that taking control of your device via rooting will more than offset the loss of warranty. The community here is very supportive, and as long as you are willing to read some threads and educate yourself they will answer any other questions you may have.
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Thanks, I did not know Tmo was that lenient. I do wish I rooted sooner, but I really wanted to hold off because of the warranty thing....because it will cost me $900 in payments. I've now had HTC, Nexus and Samsung phones, but Samsung has the worst bloatware hands down. I cant wait to start removing this bloatware now that I am rooted.
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ianmck said:
I've had a Note3 for 6 months now (after many years of Nexus) and I have to say I am disappointed with it...except for the screen size which seems to be the only thing I like. I only bought Samsung because its just about the only company offering microSD + removable batteries (god knows why HTC wont follow suit on these features). I am a heavy user and I need extended batteries...I also need microSD over cloud for those rural areas...or when I cant get a signal in a large brick building. I've had my eye on large phones for a while and I thought I would fall in love with the note...but the Samsung experience leaves a lot to be desired. Knox, Touchwiz + Samsung bloatware/apps all kill the user experience. Why on earth would Samsung even try to take on Google calendar with such an inferior calendar app? I hear rumors of Samsung wanting to kill 3rd party accessories + developing Tizen OS. Why would I support this? If I wanted a closed ecosystem with officially licensed accessories and proprietary connectors then I would join the cult of Apple.
Anyway, I rooted my note3 today and I am looking into a custom ROM. I hope this will change my feelings for this phone. Sorry to rant, but I had to get it off my chest and I wanted to know if anyone else felt this way.
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Try Hyperdrive ROM. It has Aroma installer and gives you the option right off the bat to only install the apps you prefer (AOSP vs Touchwiz).
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Hey Raymond, I remember you from the vibrant days. How you been men. Good to see you here.
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I'm doing fine, thanks for asking! I don't do nearly as much flashing as I used to. I mainly install cool apps like pie control and keep up with the latest versions. Good to see someone from the wild days of Vibrant development!
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Sounds like trolling to me. Like Van Halen sang, go ahead and Jump
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use an aosp rom. or CM
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Second this. I put on cm11 after waiting a couple months or so for the substantial bugs to be worked out. This are really rock solid with the current cm11 nightlies, not to mention 4.4.3 included.
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I think Kenny Rogers said it best, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself. What a silly thread this is.
I just called AT&T and gave them hell about the lack of progress on the Marshmallow update. Asked how much it would cost to close my account. Miraculously; I was forwarded to a tech support person with an IQ just North of a bedroom slipper. She forced the update to my phone. I'm past the download and my apps are optimizing. Incredible! Before I post, I'm going to wait to be sure, but it looks like I'm getting the Big M! 8 more apps to go! 1 more. Holding breath. BS! Don't know what it actually did, but still on 5.11. Time for the big guns. Stay tuned.
Just north of a bedroom slipper. Thats hilarious.
??????
Big News! AT&T Are Liars!
I called back and spoke to another Golgi apparatus who denied that they ever said that. My, how his toned changed when I started playing back the conversation from Total Recall. He proceeded to tell me that I could pay an ETF of $350.00. I told him that based on the recorded lies that they told me; I DARED them to try to collect. Never mind - just more AT&T BS. {Sigh!}
Sorry. "Just North of a bedroom slipper" and "Golgi apparatus" were complements for these oxygen thieves. Maggots is placing them in high regard. AT&T customer since 1985, and this is how I'm treated? I'm dropping them like a used rubber. Don't have any better "smoking gun" solutions since I travel internationally a good bit; but, I'll cut off my nose to spite AT&T at this point. (Extremely foul language omitted)
Sometimes I think to my self, how fun would of been if this device would of been root able? Big-time developers would be on this specific forum. Idk but lately I've been complementing on wether to give att another chance or split to tmobile
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Sorry that happened, it's the worst when you get your hopes up only to have them dashed.
Highly unlikely that att would push out an update to a single user, some of us have been trying to get beta releases for years. Unfortunately, we just have to wait.
So help me; she SWORE that they were already rolling it out (another lie), but I wasn't in the queue yet, and I'd be receiving it soon. She was such a polished liar that it takes my breath away. Then, she gave me the schmoozing touch by saying "Well, you're such a valued customer that I'm going to go ahead and push it to your phone." Eloquent liar. She said "Look at the top of your screen and tell me what you see?" I saw the diagonal arrows that only mean one thing. I was ecstatic! I told her: " I can't believe you were able to do it that fast!" She poured it on even thicker by saying "Now, wait with me for a little bit to make sure it goes through." Sucker!!! I waited until it had gotten to the 100% point and was prompted by the phone to end my call to finish the update. I thanked her profusely, and hung up.
I'm sure they were slapping their knees after I got off the phone with them. The phone went through the expected gyrations with the progress bar, optimizing apps, rebooting, etc. When it finished recycling; there was the all too familiar screen again. My heart was beating like a rabbits. I went to the phone info, and sure enough... Still Lollipop! SUCKER! I felt like Curly from The Three Stooges after Moe just double poked him in the eyes.
Now; I'm pissed. But, being the weekend, I realize that the only person to answer their phone is Hajji over in India, so that's a waste of time. So; my choices are: Stay with AT&T and continue to have nearly seamless international roaming, or cut my throat and go with Verizon - just to match my domestic coverage - (Same high price, same obstinance, but little to no international coverage, same hardware restrictions), or go with a lone wolf like T-Mobile - or worse - Sprint.
Deflated.
stay with At&t but never buy phones from them. nexus is the way to go my friend.
OP, I honestly cannot tell if you are for real.
Oh; trust me; I'm real. And, everything - virtually everything happened exactly the way I said it. It would be hard to make that one up.
As for the Nexus; I've considered that. Perhaps my timing's been bad, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the Nexus phones that I've seen. Especially without Mini-SD cards. It seems like there's always some stranglehold. I've been a Sammy fan for about 4 years now. The previous one was the Note 3 that I purchased outright from AT&T. Root eventually made it's way to it, but I jumped when the Note 5 came out without the SD card slot, and no removable battery. I panicked and snatched up the Note 4. Big mistake.
I wish there was a way to purchase an unlocked, unbranded Samsung Note that would work seamlessly on AT&T, allow updates without the bloat, and let me do what I wanted to do with what I bought. It defies logic.
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Oh; trust me; I'm real. And, everything - virtually everything happened exactly the way I said it. It would be hard to make that one up.
As for the Nexus; I've considered that. Perhaps my timing's been bad, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the Nexus phones that I've seen. Especially without Mini-SD cards. It seems like there's always some stranglehold. I've been a Sammy fan for about 4 years now. The previous one was the Note 3 that I purchased outright from AT&T. Root eventually made it's way to it, but I jumped when the Note 5 came out without the SD card slot, and no removable battery. I panicked and snatched up the Note 4. Big mistake.
I wish there was a way to purchase an unlocked, unbranded Samsung Note that would work seamlessly on AT&T, allow updates without the bloat, and let me do what I wanted to do with what I bought. It defies logic.
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Only optio. U have for an unbranded one os international version
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Only optio. U have for an unbranded one os international version
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Likely has no warranty I the states, and difficult to get, many are sold as 910f but are 910a with a system mod applied via odin to make it look like an 910f...
OK, I'll bite. You really didn't know that the ATT associates don't know when any update will occur? You really wasted all this time and energy and anger over this? That is why I smell a troll; everyone knows this, and it has been reiterated a thousand times. The fact is they simply do not know.
Think what you want. I'm not trying to impress you or anyone else. I'm venting my frustration and experience.
Now; if she'd told me that the update would hit at a certain time; I'd have taken it with a grain of salt. But, the way she schmoozed me; I bought hook, line, and sinker. Not to mention all of the speculation on this board that the update was immanent; I thought I'd hit the goldmine. That's what pisses me off. I'll be more than happy to post the recording (~10MB) of the 47 minute conversation - if you have the time to waste listening to it.
And, no; I'm not going to roll the dice on an international - or any other illegitimate phone - in the hopes that I can get what I paid for. That's just another frustration. It would be like buying a fancy Dell computer with a 3TB HD, but they installed 1.5TB of bloatware on the drive and if you took it off; your computer would crash.
OK, I'm done.
I have been an AT&T customer since 96. My first smartphone was the Sony x10a, loved it. Then I saw an ad in a magazine for the ion lt28at. I knew 6 months before the 6 AT&T employees(1 per month) that AT&T was getting it. I "chat" with AT&T about every 2 weeks to see if there's any info when updates are supposed to be released. Occasionally one will act like they have the inside scoop, usually, like with the ion, they're as clueless as we are. I fallen victim to false hope, I'm sure many of us have. Yes, AT&T sucks when it comes to updates and bloat, but I will tell you this, every single time I've had an issue they've done everything they can to make me happy. To me that goes a long way towards keeping my brand loyalty. AT&T is a pretty solid company and would have to do something much worse than delaying updates to lose my business.
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yes they can push updates to individual devices, because i called as asked to have that done with the latest security patch, and the person asked me for my IMEI and told me it would take a couple of hours, sure enough within that time I had the notification for the security update.
xateeq said:
stay with At&t but never buy phones from them. nexus is the way to go my friend.
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I agree. I have a contract that was supposed to allow me to upgrade phones every two years. I went in and was told that they don't do upgrades anymore even if it is in your contract. Which means I have to pay that price on my bill and not get the benefit of it. They very eagerly offered to take that off my bill but it would kill my unlimited data. Why in the hell would I buy a phone from them if I can get one that is not locked down for the same price?
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Looks like another security update. I guess this means MM is a ways off.
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It's a dead topic in my opinion. We all know that AT&T's customer service is horrible and will tell you anything. What I found so insulting was the level of deceit that they went to convince me that I was going to get the update. Shouldn't be surprised. That's why I record theirs and a few other companies phone calls to confront them when they don't live up to what was promised. I still find it incredible!
So; I'm stuck with AT&T, or another carrier that's as bad or worse. It's a shame. I used to be able to count on AT&T as fulfilling their promises. My experience over the past couple of years is that you roll the dice, and HOPE you get what was promised. I suppose that's the only option. Their management could care less.
I'm done with this topic. Feel free to rant - which was my purpose - it seems to have no effect on them. They know your options are limited.
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It's a dead topic in my opinion. We all know that AT&T's customer service is horrible and will tell you anything. What I found so insulting was the level of deceit that they went to convince me that I was going to get the update. Shouldn't be surprised. That's why I record theirs and a few other companies phone calls to confront them when they don't live up to what was promised. I still find it incredible!
So; I'm stuck with AT&T, or another carrier that's as bad or worse. It's a shame. I used to be able to count on AT&T as fulfilling their promises. My experience over the past couple of years is that you roll the dice, and HOPE you get what was promised. I suppose that's the only option. Their management could care less.
I'm done with this topic. Feel free to rant - which was my purpose - it seems to have no effect on them. They know your options are limited.
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Why wont you go buy a T-mobile phone and unlock the sim for use on at&t. Get your root, custom roms, updates.... i have a t-mobile Samsung s5 also Note 4 and finally Note Edge, all rooted and custom roms. All working on AT&T straight talk network. I can update to custom MM right now if i wished.
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I have a "fixed" Note 7 and I understand I have to turn it in but I want to wait as long as I can. I know I seen on here a way to block OTA updates. Something about freezing system apps? I wan't to block any battery crippling updates Samsung puts out. I just want to wait to see if I can make it till S8 comes out.
It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
Disabling these bottom four will end future updates.
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Disabling these bottom four will end future updates.
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Four? Or all 7?
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Four? Or all 7?
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You can do all seven but the bottom for is the main one you want to disable.
I am on Verizon and do not have some of the ones that you are showing that are checked in Package Disabler Pro. Anyone on Verizon have these to disable future updates?
lawrence750 said:
It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
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That's why I put fixed in quotation marks
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This is what I disabled. Am I good to go?
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That's why I put fixed in quotation marks
This is what I disabled. Am I good to go?
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Yes no more updates ever...
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I had all of those disabled at AT&T and many more (lessons learned from from the note 5) . Guess what, they pushed the update anyway in the middle of the night with no prompt that will let me cancel.
also install a firewall just in case.
its far fetched to think samy could have their system apps pass on/tunnel your personal data via other innocent apps (im definitely sure google is doing it to ensure they gather as much data from us as possible). if I'm wrong, at least a firewall saves you on wireless 4g data charges
This is the only thing we can do if we want to keep the phone, if it goes through then it will force the keepers to switch if it doesn't we'll see how long we can last without updated/support.
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I had all of those disabled at AT&T and many more (lessons learned from from the note 5) . Guess what, they pushed the update anyway in the middle of the night with no prompt that will let me cancel.
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are you sure you disabled all update packages? damn that's scary to realised you don't actually own the phone you bought, your just leasing a product with the illusion of full control...
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are you sure you disabled all update packages? damn that's scary to realised you don't actually own the phone you bought, your just leasing a product with the illusion of full control...
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Yes I did. Had the note 5 remember?
It was crazy scary, especially when the phone turned blue and AT&T logo popped out without a warning.
It was doing something for nearly 10-20 minutes with a bar on the bottom of the screen (so I knew it was doing something).
it was in recovery mode and did not have the running android logo (like updates usually do).
I was worried to turn it off cause I did not want my phone to be bricked. When it turned back on I got the message that I must return the phone (and it kept of popping every time I charged it).
So, I am 100% positive that AT&T, and Samsung can do what they want.
Also, yesterday before I returned the phone my line got suspended. But my line is a corporate line so the company just decided to force me to return it.
damn, that's dodgy.
Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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Here, ill give you my reason. I go upgrade to the s7 edge tonight. Now, when the new note or whatever it is with the stylus comes out, I cant upgrade yet. Whereas if I still had/have this, then I could with the note even year deal or whatever its called with Verizon. I guarantee im not the only one in this boat.
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It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
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Yet another policeman. How the **** do you know if there's anything wrong with his or not. This is getting REALLY tedious.
FWIW, having wiped my Note 7 and boxed it up, I've changed my mind. I am keeping it for a month or two to see what pans out, news of S8 availability, take a look at the Pixel etc.
There's no rush to get them swapped and I not could give a pico-sh1t about the "explosion" risk. Seriously when ZERO have had any issues in the UK. None, nil, nada. Why would anyone be so concerned. Sure there may be a small risk but let's keep this in perspective, please.
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Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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And I can't figure out why people like you are so insistent on ramming your opinions down others' throats.
I will change mine in a month or two once theirs more alternative devices either available or announced. What's YOUR problem with what I do with MY phone?
Chippy_boy said:
Yet another policeman. How the **** do you know if there's anything wrong with his or not. This is getting REALLY tedious.
FWIW, having wiped my Note 7 and boxed it up, I've changed my mind. I am keeping it for a month or two to see what pans out, news of S8 availability, take a look at the Pixel etc.
There's no rush to get them swapped and I not could give a pico-sh1t about the "explosion" risk.
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No not at all, just not a complete moron who thinks he knows better than the multi billion dollar company (with people way way smarter than any of us) who would have done anything in their power to make sure that this didn't happen. You think they would have stopped production for something that's easily fixed? Come on, use your brain!
How do I know if there's anything wrong with his or not? I don't - nobody does - that's the problem... duh? No one can surely say that it will or won't blow up at any time, and you've got hundreds of these idiots going 'hmm, i know better than samsung, mines cool for now, therefore its always gonna be fine'
And thereby not only putting their own selfish ass at risk, but other people who they might be around at that time, god forbid it did explode/set on fire.
It's ridiculous. This whole thing should never have happened, but people insisting on keeping something that is known to randomly (until they can reproduce it, unless they already have and aren't disclosing it) set on fire, and that is just complete stupidity, and nothing else.
lawrence750 said:
No not at all, just not a complete moron who thinks he knows better than the multi billion dollar company (with people way way smarter than any of us) who would have done anything in their power to make sure that this didn't happen. You think they would have stopped production for something that's easily fixed? Come on, use your brain!
How do I know if there's anything wrong with his or not? I don't - nobody does - that's the problem... duh? No one can surely say that it will or won't blow up at any time, and you've got hundreds of these idiots going 'hmm, i know better than samsung, mines cool for now, therefore its always gonna be fine'
And thereby not only putting their own selfish ass at risk, but other people who they might be around at that time, god forbid it did explode/set on fire.
It's ridiculous. This whole thing should never have happened, but people insisting on keeping something that is known to randomly (until they can reproduce it, unless they already have and aren't disclosing it) set on fire, and that is just complete stupidity, and nothing else.
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Yawn. It was a no brainer for Samsung to discontinue it. They could be 100% confident they would have many more fires and other issues.
Any single user can be 99.99% confident they will not.
If you don't get that, I suggest you have a quick read up on probabilities 101.
@Chippy_boy dont waste your energy man, there will always be people who are just upset in general... they start the fire the moment they hear someone scream witch just continue to help like minded others and ignore their verbal traps, it'll eat them up inside every time they come back here... otherwise they wouldn't come back to troll about a phone they don't have