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Hi guys I want your thoughts and concerns about the new nexus coming up. I am eagerly waiting for the upcoming Nexus devices and I would like to know If anyone else is going get them as well?
I really don't have any "concerns" per se, since almost all the info out there is just rumors. I don't even think its been fully confirmed that HTC is making the 2 Nexus devices, but its a pretty sure thing, along with:
- HTC is making two Nexus devices, Sailfish and Marlin
- Both will have Snapdragon 820, and similar internal specs (same RAM, camera module)
- The 2 will likely have different price points
- Some leaked images of prototypes
Other than that, we can only speculate. I'd probably opt for the higher price point device, and not interested in a plastic/polycarb body (as one is rumored to be, the other aluminum).
Beyond that, if its the usual HTC quality, but with Nexus benefits (direct updates from Google) than you can count me in as "interested" but obviously going to wait until release and reviews before even coming close to any decision on getting one.
I'm among those interested as well, but I'm not a sure sale. The leaks do look promising, though.
I like HTC hardware probably second only to Samsung, so I'm thrilled to hear that HTC will be making both 2016 Nexus devices. I, too, will probably go for the bigger, metal-bodied, variant if I decide to upgrade, as I actually like my phone to have some heft (and I want the larger 5.5" display). I have had excellent service from my M8, and I expect the HTC manufactured Nexus device will be no different.
That said, I'm not thrilled about a return to bottom-firing speakers (something I've grown to love about my M8), and while I haven't removed the SD card in my phone since I installed it, having a separate storage device during upgrades/mods is a factor. I could live without it, though.
Price-wise, the bigger "marlin" will probably end up being about the same price as the 10, though upgrading it to 128GB will no doubt shoot it over.
The real advantage of the Nexus devices is that they are directly supported by Google, which means no waiting on updates and patches. ROM support is virtually guaranteed, as the boot loader is readily unlocked directly from the OS. (no websites/software required, like HTCdev or Sunshine) However, I have to admit that there are actually Sense features I really like, and which are missing in generic Android. It's a tough call.
Currently have a LG G3 16GB a year (bought sim -free) and wondering is a Nexus 5X a good replacement? from United Kingdom (GB)
reefuge said:
Currently had my LG G3 16GB a year (bought sim -free) and wondering is a Nexus 5X a good replacement? from United Kingdom (GB)
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I was using g3 16gb 2gb of ram
I would say definitely worth to upgrade
Good camera
More performance
Faster update.
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It's not. Even from G2. Go for Nexus 6P, Pixel or OnePlus 3.
Dont purchase LG they have very ****ty warranty and support.
Just IMHO. Having had LG G2, G3, G Flex 2, Huawei P8 in passing 6 mths. Each of those had something unique. The 5X seems it doesn't. BUT despite being plastic without the premium feel, it rocks very snazzy camera and 2g Ram ain't still bad. Display is nice and sufficient and having regular, stable and most recent updates is the bonus to welcome. Plus there's a nice custom Rom community that makes your phone a beast. So choice's yours but if you grab that you won't be disappointed
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The way I see it, switching from LG G3 to Nexus 5X is merely a side-grade, not an upgrade as far as the specs go. You lose the sd card slot, but gain a barely faster CPU and relatively lean ROM that has been already upgraded to Nougat.
Its definitely an upgrade IMO! Nexus rules. Better roms, kernels, other mods, more compatible.. More roms! Kick ass devs!!! I used to buy flagships. Last flagship I had was an GS4. I've had every Nexus except the Nexus 4 because at the time I was on Sprint and they didn't have it. The Bullhead is a good phone. I had a 6p before and it got destroyed on a job and liked it more as far as internal specs.. It is faster and gets better battery but I like the 5x build quality and led light seems to be more on point with colors .. You can grab a 5x for like $200 now. Dang well worth 2 bills.
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Duckscreen said:
I was using g3 16gb 2gb of ram
I would say definitely worth to upgrade
Good camera
More performance
Faster update.
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If you want a better phone which runs fast and smooth and you don't want to spend a lot of money yes nexus 5x is great!If you have no problem to spend some more I think one plus 3 would be the best choice. I wouldn't say pixel is a lot faster.
I came from a G3. It was a great move with no regrets
I swapped my lg g3 for 5x. Same 32gb UK model etc. A great decision imo. Only drawback is lack of expandable storage but there is no overheating issues like in g3
That's exactly what I've done a month ago lol yeah it's woth to change the only thing I regret is the 2k screen but nexus 5x is just a little less defined and it's a lot more performing/frequently updated/more supported by xda/has a better hardware so it's worth the change
I came from a Sony Z3 Compact and I have to say that i'm too happy having mi 5X. Excellent camera (better than Z3 compact's), stock android is the best that any android fan could have, you're free from useless apps from manufacturers. The display is really good, processor works perfect, battery do it's job perfectly and further more you will have access to very nice mods and roms with great support and easy ways to install it, making the 5x a very custom phone compared to your old G3. If you want a premium feel in your hand with this phone, you just have to buy a vinyl set, there are very nice variants. Trust me, if you are an android fan, the 5x is a great upgrade from your G3.
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It's not. Even from G2. Go for Nexus 6P, Pixel or OnePlus 3.
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had g2, and 5x is an upgrade albeit a small one, but g3 is garbage and inferior to both phones.
imo the only phones worth to buy for their price group are:
moto E3
nexus 5X
oneplus 3
Sorry to hijack your thread but I have the same dilemma as well, between OnePlus X and Nexus 5X. Should I keep 5X and sell OPX or the other way round.
OPX over 5X:
- Sleeker body profile VS fatter body profile. The Onyx version is really nice.
- SDCard slot so I can use SD card as adaptive storage to get more spaces VS fixed 16/32 storage
- 3GB RAM VS 2GB RAM
- Better screen? AMOLED vs IPS. Higher PPI.
5X over OPX:
- Better processor 808 VS 801
- Fingerprint VS no fingerprint
- USB Type C VS micro USB
- Better camera quality and performance
- Faster update from Google, but this doesn't matter as I always flash custom ROM
Thank you.
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Sorry to hijack your thread but I have the same dilemma as well, between OnePlus X and Nexus 5X. Should I keep 5X and sell OPX or the other way round.
OPX over 5X:
- Sleeker body profile VS fatter body profile. The Onyx version is really nice.
- SDCard slot so I can use SD card as adaptive storage to get more spaces VS fixed 16/32 storage
- 3GB RAM VS 2GB RAM
- Better screen? AMOLED vs IPS. Higher PPI.
5X over OPX:
- Better processor 808 VS 801
- Fingerprint VS no fingerprint
- USB Type C VS micro USB
- Better camera quality and performance
- Faster update from Google, but this doesn't matter as I always flash custom ROM
Thank you.
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dont matter:
performance, 808 throttles so its the same in daily use
amoled, that tells nothing about screen colors, ppi difference is not visible
slightly matter:
usb c, for covenience
fingerprint, for "security"
3gb, nice to have
sd card, nice to have
important:
processor, qualcom stops releasing updates for old hardware
looks, if you crave the phone then you might as well buy it
Giorgos Chatziioannou said:
dont matter:
performance, 808 throttles so its the same in daily use
amoled, that tells nothing about screen colors, ppi difference is not visible
slightly matter:
usb c, for covenience
fingerprint, for "security"
3gb, nice to have
sd card, nice to have
important:
processor, qualcom stops releasing updates for old hardware
looks, if you crave the phone then you might as well buy it
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I have both of them now, OPX and 5X.
So your suggestion is to stay with Nexus 5X due to USB-C and fingerprint?
Thank you.
vibranze said:
I have both of them now, OPX and 5X.
So your suggestion is to stay with Nexus 5X due to USB-C and fingerprint?
Thank you.
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thats on you. personally i dont even use fp anymore, while i LOVE usb c not having to play twister every time i plug in xD
I did and I'm happy because of it N5X works much better than G3.
Did you sell it yet? ???? @reefuge
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I am Nexus user but considering moving to OP3 due to price and specs. Pixel is my other option but its expensive. Have any of you made the move and how has it made you feel? I love the Google phones for the fastest updates but I still use custom roms, Pure Nexus is my favorite.
I see there are some custom roms for OP3 but how good are they? Are there any stable nougat roms yet?
When will OP upgrade to N?
Lots of questions I know but I want to make sure I am making the right choice.
Thanks guys.
I love the Nexus phones but the Pixel price turns me off. Never was a fan of OnePlus until I picked up the OP2 and then the OP3 a week later lol. Great company that supports the developers and listens to its users. I'm really enjoying mine. Our devs are great.
I went from 6P to the Note 7 and now here. I like both the former better than the latter. The 6P was good, no grief with it but there were some things I didn't like about it. The bezels were huge and you notice the easier handling of the +3. I have had several phones with the fingerprint scanner in the back and I don't like it. People say you will get used to it and come to prefer it but I've come to almost hating it and I'm quite confident I will never like it. I also don't like the volume on the right (thumb side) and worse for the 6P it was almost centered on the phone which combined with its weight made it far to easy to adjust the volume accidentally when picking it up. I did that almost daily. I big case fixed the problem but then you have a big case which has its own issues. I was never worried about going past 1080 because in use I don't notice the difference and until VR takes off I have not compelling reason to care about higher resolutions. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen in the year or probably less that I'll own this phone.
Performance... I've had all the Nexus line except for the Galaxy Nexus, all the SGS line except for 5, most of the note line, various Moto, Sony, HTC, assorted Chinese offerings, you get the idea. I've rommed the lot of them, made all the usual adjustments along with the personalizations that people like me make. Those things in no way give me expertise but they do tell me that the performance of most modern phones is pretty darn good and its been a few phones since I've been wishing the thing was smoother. If you're someone with similar experience and you're happy with your Nexus device save your money until the next thing. You can already run assistant which is the only really meaningful add of the Pixels. For me escape from the rear scanner was my primary move issue, really happy to be rid of it. Good luck.
Just realized it's sold out so I guess I'm not getting it right now.
What's the favorite custom rom usually?
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Just realized it's sold out so I guess I'm not getting it right now.
What's the favorite custom rom usually?
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Cm13 - resurrection remix or cm14 nightlies with pixelfy mod. Both personal choices
I'm in a very similar dilemma at the moment, really on the fence between the Pixel XL 128gb and the 3T.
The pixel has the superior camera and EIS for video (big deal for me personally) going for it. The extra storage space is also very important, but that will most likely be fixed with the 3T. Daydream compatibility and unlimited google photos storage are also nice bonuses. Obvious drawback though is the fact it's twice as expensive.
The 3(T) gives fantastic value for money and is completely competitive in terms of features and performance. Drawbacks are the camera architecture which makes custom roms destroy the quality and (a very personal gripe) I don't really like the communication strategy from Oneplus. The way the communication over the 3T is being handled, especially with promises that they would only launch a single flagship each year and would not bring out another Oneplus X just rankle. The company doesn't give the impression of being trustworthy, so who knows what the future holds in terms of software updates and product support when something breaks. But that value though...
The Pixel is clearly the better phone, by the same token it's clearly not worth double the price of the Oneplus. One phone delivers value, the other probably the best Android user experience out there. Personally I'll wait until Tuesday and make a decision based on the 3T presentation. Much will also depend on availability - my old HTC One M7 has been broken for a month and I'm now using a $50 chinese phone... Sick of it and can't wait to replace it. So if I can get either the Pixel or the 3T significantly quicker then the other, my choice will probably default upon that one.
So I'm coming from a Sony Z3C and due to the lack of support (no Nougat for us) and development (no proper CM for us) I'm thinking moving to another device.
I'm taking into consideration Sony XZ/X as well as the S7, but none of them have development going on due to various reasons. So no development is not a solution for me.
Would you still recommend buying the 5X after mote than a year since the release? Do you enjoy yhe phone? Or do you have any recommendation? I don't have enough money for a Pixel, nor buy a phablet.
Thanks!
Nexus 5x devices have something like sudden death issue, motherboards die in a random moment. After replacing motherboard on warranty you will be no longer able to root your phone (or you will get your money refund)
So in that case, I wouldn't recommen this phone. This phone is great if it's working without any issues, but LG at the backs means that will not.
Do no buy nothing LG. Go for the Huawei 6p.
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Do no buy nothing LG. Go for the Huawei 6p.
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6P is too big
I can recommend. I have this phone since june this year, and as far its the best phone i had. No lag, manual camera + raw, exelent photos, fast update, great developer support and that fingerprint reader wich i LOVE. Only i can complain about size (little bit too small for me) and battery wich is average. From 7AM to 8PM and have 15% left (~4 hours SOT). It's the best phone so far. I am also Sony fan (or i will say "was") mine last Sony device was Z2 (neo v, S, T, Z, Z1).
Also build quality is crap. My Nexus Inprint plastic is shiny now (was mate). Also plastic round the phone is shining (always in mercury case). I can send a photo how it looks.
Phone is really good AND ITS CHEAP.
Wouldn't recommend battery life is horrendously bad.
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Wouldn't recommend battery life is horrendously bad.
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Then what would you recommend?
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Then what would you recommend?
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I would recommend an LG G4 or a Moto X pure, both are more or less the same price i believe, and they are much better than the 5x in terms of a more premium feel and better performance (3gb ram vs 2gb on the 5x :/ ) I have had mines about 5 months and it's not to bad, but it still bugs me till today that there were better devices i could have gotten, guess i should have done more research , btw the oneplus 2 is also a great device for around the same price and great support and performance.
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I would recommend an LG G4 or a Moto X pure, both are more or less the same price i believe, and they are much better than the 5x in terms of a more premium feel and better performance (3gb ram vs 2gb on the 5x :/ ) I have had mines about 5 months and it's not to bad, but it still bugs me till today that there were better devices i could have gotten, guess i should have done more research , btw the oneplus 2 is also a great device for around the same price and great support and performance.
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I already said that I'm not intetested in bigger phones, that's why I got my eyes on the 5X but thanks
Don't ever buy a LG G4! It is the king of the bootloopers. All the 2015 LG flagship's have that issue G4, G FLex II, V10, V20, now G5 (2016) and well Nexus 5x too...
There is no solution for that failure. Motherboard replacement is not a deffinitive solution cause they never made a revisión or something to correct the mistake.
Have you seen the Xperia z5 compact? Very small size and powerfull. Thats the phone i want to get.
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Don't ever buy a LG G4! It is the king of the bootloopers. All the 2015 LG flagship's have that issue G4, G FLex II, V10, V20, now G5 (2016) and well Nexus 5x too...
There is no solution for that failure. Motherboard replacement is not a deffinitive solution cause they never made a revisión or something to correct the mistake.
Have you seen the Xperia z5 compact? Very small size and powerfull. Thats the phone i want to get.
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Xperias have problems with development because of the DRM partition - meaning no AOSP/CM ROMs working properly as a daily driver (I got a Z3C so I know). The Z5C sounds cool, but it has the not so acclaimed Snapdragon 820 with overheating issued, and as a Sony user I can say that the camera is horrid. Good sensor, horrible code optimization. Last, but not least, it may not get further than N. My phone didn't get N due to whatever reason, despite not being even 2 yrs old. The new XC or XZ looks nice. But even rooting requires unlocked bootloader, which leads to loss of DRM keys, which means loss of camera functions (noise reduction, low light shots, making it even worse than it is) and warranty.
For the old Z series there was something called TA Backup which made it possible to copy and restore the keys. For the new ones this isn't possible.
So here I am. Not knowing what to buy again due to the 5X problems..
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Xperias have problems with development because of the DRM partition - meaning no AOSP/CM ROMs working properly as a daily driver (I got a Z3C so I know). The Z5C sounds cool, but it has the not so acclaimed Snapdragon 820 with overheating issued, and as a Sony user I can say that the camera is horrid. Good sensor, horrible code optimization. Last, but not least, it may not get further than N. My phone didn't get N due to whatever reason, despite not being even 2 yrs old. The new XC or XZ looks nice. But even rooting requires unlocked bootloader, which leads to loss of DRM keys, which means loss of camera functions (noise reduction, low light shots, making it even worse than it is) and warranty.
For the old Z series there was something called TA Backup which made it possible to copy and restore the keys. For the new ones this isn't possible.
So here I am. Not knowing what to buy again due to the 5X problems..
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Good to know all that info, we are on the same boat... (i want to sell my less than a month Nexus 5x)
Thank you!
moonlightdrive said:
Good to know all that info, we are on the same boat... (i want to sell my less than a month Nexus 5x)
Thank you!
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I know, right? It's so hard to get a properly working phone. Not overpriced (Pixel), or bigger than 5.2" at most (means without OP, LG, HTC, Motorola) which has dev support (not like Sony or Samsung) and no hardware issues (see 5X). This basically puts me in a situation without a choice.
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I know, right? It's so hard to get a properly working phone. Not overpriced (Pixel), or bigger than 5.2" at most (means without OP, LG, HTC, Motorola) which has dev support (not like Sony or Samsung) and no hardware issues (see 5X). This basically puts me in a situation without a choice.
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Exactly, i totally agree. Pixel is not a choice (is like an iPhone for me, you pay for how it looks) i just want something "small" 5.2" max not a phablet even the budget phones like moto g4 have 5.5 inch screen, really too big al least for me. I miss the nokia n73, moto razr v8, those were good little phones haha (i really like physical keyboards, but i know, that would be imposible in this times).
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I know, right? It's so hard to get a properly working phone. Not overpriced (Pixel), or bigger than 5.2" at most (means without OP, LG, HTC, Motorola) which has dev support (not like Sony or Samsung) and no hardware issues (see 5X). This basically puts me in a situation without a choice.
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If you can get it cheap enough it's worth it even if it messes up. I had a nexus 6 and it was too large. Like you I don't like jumbo phones. The 5x is very light. Some may say it feels cheap but I like it BC it is sturdy and light. It certainly won't bend. Right now there are not many options. The camera aid good and it runs smooth despite 2GB of ram. There the bootloader issue but for cheap enough it's worth the risk to me. I love it as a daily and it fits much better in my suit pants than the other huge phones right now.
It is really sad that I got so few good reviews related to this phone. I guess I'll watch if the development of the new Xperias gets to the point where the DRM partition gets a possible backup and buy one of them....such a shame since Nexus was the most dev friendly.
Even subway surfers drops frames , probably cause of temp throttling (on stock), im really disappointed with this device and google... If i knew of bootloop problem and this temp throttle wouldn't buy it...no chance...
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I'm very confused... I cannot decide whether the Nexus 5X would be a good deal or not: someone claims about (serious!) problems, someone says it's very good... I was a very lucky Moto G 2014 owner, but unfortunately its life came to an end. I wanted a quite cheap phone (maximum 270€) with an active development that can let me hope I will receive latest android versions (cyanogenmod) in a couple of months and I tought about a Nexus 5X, but if it has so many problems, is it better to find an alternative?
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I'm very confused... I cannot decide whether the Nexus 5X would be a good deal or not: someone claims about (serious!) problems, someone says it's very good... I was a very lucky Moto G 2014 owner, but unfortunately its life came to an end. I wanted a quite cheap phone (maximum 270€) with an active development that can let me hope I will receive latest android versions (cyanogenmod) in a couple of months and I tought about a Nexus 5X, but if it has so many problems, is it better to find an alternative?
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I've been facing the same problem for the past year or so, just because there haven't really been any devices that I could see as a replacement for my i9100. I finally made my decision though and I'm picking up a 5X tomorrow. If you want an affordable phone with a lot of custom ROMs and even long official support (especially rare with android), you don't have much of a choice. Of course there is the risk of that bootloop issue appearing, but that's what you have a warranty for. If the issue comes up a year later, you'll most likely get a refund and you've basically had a phone for a year for free. Plus I've also read speculations that Google tried to put the blame on LG, as pretty much every case of this bootloop issue happened after updating to Nougat. My guess is that there was an issue with thermal throttling not working right in the early Nougat builds for the 5X which made the phone more prone to failure. In that case I would say they've already fixed it but who knows..
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I finally made my decision though and I'm picking up a 5X tomorrow.
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Thanks Daniel, I was thinking to buy it at the end of the next week.. If yours arrives before that date, would you please be so kind and let me know how does it work?
And what about low RAM and poor audio quality? They were the main reason that stopped me from buying it till this afternoon, when I read this post. Are they really a problem?
I've been running my optimus g pro for a little over three years now IIRC. I have it rooted, and running Cyanogen. However, the phone is starting to misbehave, and the third replacement battery is starting to fail. I think that it's time to upgrade, however, the optimus g pro has really spoiled me. I want my next phone to have a screen that's just as large, though I wouldn't argue with slightly bigger. I would like an upgrade to the processor, I really need an upgrade to RAM. I don't mind on board storage staying the same though (32gb). I would REALLY like to keep the replaceable battery as well. I looked at the google pixel, but it doesn't have the removable battery, and it's a little $$$ for what I would typically spend. I would rather not spend more than $300. I need GSM handset. Thanks for the help.
Edit to say that I would also really like vanilla android, or something that is easily rooted, and can be stripped of crapware. Thanks again!
One of best value for money is Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 (on snapdragon 650) also known as Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro depending on part of the world.
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_3_snapdragon-review-1477.php
Thanks for the info, I've started looking at the ZTE axon 7 Max. It doesn't have exactly what I'm after, but I checked out my brothers ZTE axon 7, and really liked it, the OS feels very stock.
If I remember correctly Axon 7 supposed to have one of the best sound quality on the market.
Since you don't want to spend more than 300$.... check Honor 5X. Yes, I know, it's more than 1y old, but last time I've checked it was 160$ online and it's really ok choice for that money.
I have it for 6 months now, it's okayish performer (Lineage is running really smooth), and nice low budget phone (FP sensor, 5.5" HD IPS, official Nougat support via Lineage & ROMS, unlockable bootloader, metal unibody, dual sim + SDcard - yes, two SIM slots + SDcard slot - but with Snapdragon 616 and 2GB RAM/16GB storage). EMUI is a bit problematic, but you have to use it only for a while, before you'll be able to grab unlock code and root
It is a 2015 device, but I think that currently there is nothing better running Snapdragon that falls under 200€ category (I hate to say, Xiaomi isn't my prime choice for various privacy and other reasons). I got mine for 100€ (~110$) as a 'quick' replacement between G Pro and next OnePlus, but I'll probably keep it a bit longer than that because it's running nicely on Lineage and has good development community.
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I've been running my optimus g pro for a little over three years now IIRC. I have it rooted, and running Cyanogen. However, the phone is starting to misbehave, and the third replacement battery is starting to fail. I think that it's time to upgrade, however, the optimus g pro has really spoiled me. I want my next phone to have a screen that's just as large, though I wouldn't argue with slightly bigger. I would like an upgrade to the processor, I really need an upgrade to RAM. I don't mind on board storage staying the same though (32gb). I would REALLY like to keep the replaceable battery as well. I looked at the google pixel, but it doesn't have the removable battery, and it's a little $$$ for what I would typically spend. I would rather not spend more than $300. I need GSM handset. Thanks for the help.
Edit to say that I would also really like vanilla android, or something that is easily rooted, and can be stripped of crapware. Thanks again!
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I upgraded to Nexus 6 immediately after my G Pro. It has served me quite well.