Time to upgrade, recommendations please. - LG Optimus G Pro

I've been running my optimus g pro for a little over three years now IIRC. I have it rooted, and running Cyanogen. However, the phone is starting to misbehave, and the third replacement battery is starting to fail. I think that it's time to upgrade, however, the optimus g pro has really spoiled me. I want my next phone to have a screen that's just as large, though I wouldn't argue with slightly bigger. I would like an upgrade to the processor, I really need an upgrade to RAM. I don't mind on board storage staying the same though (32gb). I would REALLY like to keep the replaceable battery as well. I looked at the google pixel, but it doesn't have the removable battery, and it's a little $$$ for what I would typically spend. I would rather not spend more than $300. I need GSM handset. Thanks for the help.
Edit to say that I would also really like vanilla android, or something that is easily rooted, and can be stripped of crapware. Thanks again!

One of best value for money is Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 (on snapdragon 650) also known as Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro depending on part of the world.
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_3_snapdragon-review-1477.php

Thanks for the info, I've started looking at the ZTE axon 7 Max. It doesn't have exactly what I'm after, but I checked out my brothers ZTE axon 7, and really liked it, the OS feels very stock.

If I remember correctly Axon 7 supposed to have one of the best sound quality on the market.

Since you don't want to spend more than 300$.... check Honor 5X. Yes, I know, it's more than 1y old, but last time I've checked it was 160$ online and it's really ok choice for that money.
I have it for 6 months now, it's okayish performer (Lineage is running really smooth), and nice low budget phone (FP sensor, 5.5" HD IPS, official Nougat support via Lineage & ROMS, unlockable bootloader, metal unibody, dual sim + SDcard - yes, two SIM slots + SDcard slot - but with Snapdragon 616 and 2GB RAM/16GB storage). EMUI is a bit problematic, but you have to use it only for a while, before you'll be able to grab unlock code and root
It is a 2015 device, but I think that currently there is nothing better running Snapdragon that falls under 200€ category (I hate to say, Xiaomi isn't my prime choice for various privacy and other reasons). I got mine for 100€ (~110$) as a 'quick' replacement between G Pro and next OnePlus, but I'll probably keep it a bit longer than that because it's running nicely on Lineage and has good development community.

rancidgopher said:
I've been running my optimus g pro for a little over three years now IIRC. I have it rooted, and running Cyanogen. However, the phone is starting to misbehave, and the third replacement battery is starting to fail. I think that it's time to upgrade, however, the optimus g pro has really spoiled me. I want my next phone to have a screen that's just as large, though I wouldn't argue with slightly bigger. I would like an upgrade to the processor, I really need an upgrade to RAM. I don't mind on board storage staying the same though (32gb). I would REALLY like to keep the replaceable battery as well. I looked at the google pixel, but it doesn't have the removable battery, and it's a little $$$ for what I would typically spend. I would rather not spend more than $300. I need GSM handset. Thanks for the help.
Edit to say that I would also really like vanilla android, or something that is easily rooted, and can be stripped of crapware. Thanks again!
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I upgraded to Nexus 6 immediately after my G Pro. It has served me quite well.

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[Q] How happy are you with your LG Optimus G Pro?

Dear fellow forum users,
I'm currently evaluating a new Android phone. I'm pondering between the Optimus G Pro and waiting for the G2.
What are your experiences and your level of satisfaction with this phone running LG stock Android? And how active do you think is the community regarding custom ROMs? (I prefer as close to Nexus-like Android as possible).
Thanks for your feedback.
Go For G Pro
WayneGretzky said:
Dear fellow forum users,
I'm currently evaluating a new Android phone. I'm pondering between the Optimus G Pro and waiting for the G2.
What are your experiences and your level of satisfaction with this phone running LG stock Android? And how active do you think is the community regarding custom ROMs? (I prefer as close to Nexus-like Android as possible).
Thanks for your feedback.
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HI Buddy,
G2 has a better camera & slightly better viewing angle. The jelly bean 4.2.2 which is ported on G2 will soon be out in market as soon as G2 start retailing. then you can port that rom to GPRO. Our wonderful Devs are already waitng for that.
Now everything is almost same (Snapdragon 800 & 600 doesnt differ in real life scenario, user experience is almost same).
GPRO is cheaper & has a big screen, Now if you dont want to pay extra only for a OIS camera then go checkout with GPRO.
Have a nice day !!!!
Luckyboy
luckyboy_delhi said:
HI Buddy,
G2 has a better camera & slightly better viewing angle. The jelly bean 4.2.2 which is ported on G2 will soon be out in market as soon as G2 start retailing. then you can port that rom to GPRO. Our wonderful Devs are already waitng for that.
Now everything is almost same (Snapdragon 800 & 600 doesnt differ in real life scenario, user experience is almost same).
GPRO is cheaper & has a big screen, Now if you dont want to pay extra only for a OIS camera then go checkout with GPRO.
Have a nice day !!!!
Luckyboy
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Is OIS really that effective in normal camera shoots?
Does it make significant difference?
I'm thinkimg, should I or shouldI not go for G2 from my G Pro just for the OIS in G2?
kelvintisw said:
Is OIS really that effective in normal camera shoots?
Does it make significant difference?
I'm thinkimg, should I or shouldI not go for G2 from my G Pro just for the OIS in G2?
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Hi Kelvin,
OIS plays a significant role when you are taking a picture of moving object & reduces the blurr. It also depends of the capabilities of the Photographer.
Now it depends how often you use this feature(or how much it matters to you). for example: if you shoot pictures while you drive or during a footbal match. it will be a handy feature. Now it depends what you are going to do with your pics at the end of the day just sharing on social media,
From my personal point of view this feature doesnt matter a lot on a phone. because whenever i am on a vacation or travel i usualy prefer to take my Digital Camera with me.
Just note down your requirement & compare. This will be helpful to decide.
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Hi Kelvin,
OIS plays a significant role when you are taking a picture of moving object & reduces the blurr. It also depends of the capabilities of the Photographer.
Now it depends how often you use this feature(or how much it matters to you). for example: if you shoot pictures while you drive or during a footbal match. it will be a handy feature. Now it depends what you are going to do with your pics at the end of the day just sharing on social media,
From my personal point of view this feature doesnt matter a lot on a phone. because whenever i am on a vacation or travel i usualy prefer to take my Digital Camera with me.
Just note down your requirement & compare. This will be helpful to decide.
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Got it!
That's good advice! :good:
Thanks, buddy!
Confused!!
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
Armydeuno said:
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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The direction Android is headed is toward better optimization. KitKat makes even old phones seem fast. I have KitKat running on my old Galaxy S3 with only 1GB of RAM and a slower Exynos processor, and it flies. Zero lag.
Three years from now, the LG OG Pro will still be a great phone, and it will probably still be running 4.1.2 officially, sad to say, but you aren't limited to stock ROMs, thankfully.
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The direction Android is headed is toward better optimization. KitKat makes even old phones seem fast. I have KitKat running on my old Galaxy S3 with only 1GB of RAM and a slower Exynos processor, and it flies. Zero lag.
Three years from now, the LG OG Pro will still be a great phone, and it will probably still be running 4.1.2 officially, sad to say, but you aren't limited to stock ROMs, thankfully.
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Thanks for the response!
So, so you think Kit Kat will come to the Optimus G Pro? It is still fairly new. If not, would there be an unofficial Kit Kat release for it? If so, would it be stable enough?
Thanks!
Armydeuno said:
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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I don't understand your confusion, to me the choice is extremely simple:
1. Does the phone have enough storage?
To me even 32GB (maximum available for G2) is very limiting cause I take videos a lot and keep a lot of music on my device. Optimus G Pro has a SD card slot. Also, meenova or similar is not an option to me because I keep my phones in my pockets and something protruding from the USB socket will surely destroy that socket very soon.
2. Does the phone have a replaceable battery?
I am a very heavy user and current phones really don't stand a chance in terms of battery lifespan, current batteries have a service life which is not sufficient to me (I already killed and replaced one battery on my Galaxy Note within a year due to normal wear). Replacing a battery at a service center for an undisclosed amount of money (usually more than 50 EUR) is absolutely unacceptable to me when I could buy a battery off-the-shelf for 15 EUR and replace it myself in phones with user-replaceable batteries.
3. Is the phone too big to handle and carry?
Since I moved from a SE Xperia Arc S to a Galaxy Note I found out that to me the bigger screen size is a lot more important than the ability to handle the phone with one hand.
The performance margin between the two would be marginal in most scenarios (even to me as a heavy user) and the possible future updates are almost a non-issue because manufacturers tend to stop software support for their phones before the next meaningful Android upgrade has emerged (most Android version upgrades are too incremental to me to make or break the deal, at least since 4.1).
they both great you wont be disappointed
camper the specs and decide
i choose GPro cos:
cost even for 32GB
5.5"
sdcard / battery is replaceable and good
very good performance for my usage I'm not a gamer
great experience from stock [ no lags and GUI is cool ]
easier to hold then note 2 or 3
disadvantages:
camera in low light
lg support no KK?
IMO build is OK but protection needed and recommended
Am I happy with my G Pro? yeah, so happy with it......
so far so great.....
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Am I happy with my G Pro? yeah, so happy with it......
so far so great, and nothing to complain.....
I say go for the g pro. Ive been through 6 phones in less than 2 months and g pro is my fav. I had Xperia Ion, Samsung gs2, Atrix 4g, HTC One, Oppo Find 5 and Nexus 4. Obviously N4 and HTC One had the most devs but g pro is still fairly new and it has so much screen real estate. Im pretty sure once someone gets their hands on that g2 os we will have a port. Things are moving on this thread, slowly, but we are getting there. Out of all my phones i still think g pro is the best.
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Is it still worth buying a G3?

Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my Nexus 4 to LG G3.
I dont want to spend a lot of cash on cell phones, so considering the prices being reduced, is G3 still a good option? The phones looks absolutely amazing.
the G3 is definitely a very good option especially with the really high quality case with the cover that you can usually get bundled with it. Overall very good phone and I highly recommend it.
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Not to mention it's one of the cheapest flagships available, and the camera is great. I bought a Nexus 6, but returned it 24 hours later, there are simply too many features that I immediately knew I would miss on my G3, and the G3 screen was light years better.
Love my G3 had it for a few days now and its great plus when more roms dtart to come out i feel itll be perfect ??
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Great phone. Get a spare battery and never worry about battery life!
Just picked up the G3 on AT&T a few days ago after dropping and destroying my Nexus 4. So far its been great. Definitely an upgrade in the screen, camera, and battery department. The battery has been amazing so far plus I picked up a spare battery kit so now I'm never plugged into the wall...something I was used to doing on a daily basis with my N4. My only dilemna with this phone is that it's a carrier branded phone and not stock android. Luckily it's rootable thanks to some awesome devs so removing AT&T bloat is not an issue. As for not being stock android, LG's skin is pretty light with some added features that I actual welcome. A few features that have stood out to me so far are the ability to hide the nav buttons on a per app basis(thanks LG), the unintrusive popup for incoming calls, and doubletap2wake and sleep. Coming from someone in the same situation I would say do it.
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Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my Nexus 4 to LG G3.
I dont want to spend a lot of cash on cell phones, so considering the prices being reduced, is G3 still a good option? The phones looks absolutely amazing.
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I did the move and its destroys the n4 in every aspect....
However i am very unsatisfied with lgui being very laggy battery isnt the best of all either camera is actually pretty good speakers are fair also but if i could i would go with the htc one m8 in a heartbeat ! Better looking phone better software better speaker etc...
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Absolutely a great buy! I love mine! I recommend it to anyone looking for a skinned Android. The hardware is great in every way. The screen it top quality, the battery is good, the camera is really good, one of the phones with the most RAM, a up to date processor, and really good build quality considering it is plastic. The only one single hardware issue I have with it is the speaker being on the back. Don't get me wrong, it is a really good speaker. But with the speaker being on the back instead of the bottom or front, it can easily get muffled when laying on it's back. Specifically when it i laying on it's back on a soft surface like a bed. But like I said its still a really good speaker for a back speaker. It is just a very well rounded phone.
Amazing battery life, superb laser focus camera, 2k display consistent dev support. Need I say more?
I had samsung s4 s5 sony z2 and z3 and nexus 5 and htc m8 and iphone 6 for me g3 was the best ..camera very good and the screen awesome and the battery not bad it gives me 5 hours sot.. I didnt try n6 so i cant tell you which one is better
Short answer: Yes
Longer yes: Yes, after dealing with the Nokia Lumia 930, 5 or 6 (now I can't remember) defective Xperia Z2, I'm now on the G3. Very good phone. Battery life FAR Superior than the Lumia, and just right below the Z2. Considering it's handling a larger screen and a higher pixel screen, I'd say it's awesome. I am a light user with about 1-2 hours of SOT a day and I go home with 65-70% every day. So it can get me through a day SOOOOO easily! Highly recommended. Camera is great, I have the 32GB/3GB version and I don't have lags. But as I mentioned before, I'm a light user. I only use my phone for pictures, bittorrent sync (folders between desktops and such), and messaging (Line, Whatsapp, Email, Forums). That's it. I know, the device is overkill for my usage, but still! I'm very happy . I'd recommend it over any other phone. The only device I could possibly recommend more is the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. I don't like Samsung's cartoony UI. And the N6 is REALLY expensive! It's 700 euros while the G3 was 450 euros when I got it. So, I can't complain!
Akhayev said:
I had samsung s4 s5 sony z2 and z3 and nexus 5 and htc m8 and iphone 6 for me g3 was the best ..camera very good and the screen awesome and the battery not bad it gives me 5 hours sot.. I didnt try n6 so i cant tell you which one is better
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Do you own a mobile shop ? Well i think giving one phone out of all the above mentioned, wont make much of a difference to u ..
Does 32 gb make a difference compared to the 16gb, keeping in mind the extra 1gb ram in 32 gb version? Also the quick circle case - is this a must have accessory for G3?
Yeah!! I just bought my g3 two weeks ago, i had a oneplus before i purchased this. It feels similar to the 1+ but with the g3 the screen is better, it has a removable battery, micro sd slot and its cheap compared to some of the other flagships. Id recommend getting it
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Does 32 gb make a difference compared to the 16gb, keeping in mind the extra 1gb ram in 32 gb version? Also the quick circle case - is this a must have accessory for G3?
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In the benchmarks the difference is very tiny. My mate has a 16gb version with 2gb and compared to my 32gb, and when youre actually using the phones side by side the different isnt even noticeable. The 16gb is also at least £30 cheaper here in the uk.
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The phone is awesome! It's as powerful (and beautiful) as phones much more expensive than this. It's a shame that AOSP is not well supported yet, but the power and performance of AOSP can be acheived on LG's own rom if you know how to tweak android, both in performance and looks.
This is the best phone ever and I came from Nexus 5
ikz1 said:
In the benchmarks the difference is very tiny. My mate has a 16gb version with 2gb and compared to my 32gb, and when youre actually using the phones side by side the different isnt even noticeable. The 16gb is also at least £30 cheaper here in the uk.
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I believe the biggest difference is when you multitask - redraws on the screen, how many apps can be left open without having to hibernate them (the system of course), wtc.
Regardless, I believe 3GB ram will future-proof it as much as possible. It has a good camera, 3GB of RAM in my version, as well as a nice screen. I think it will be a relevant phone for at least a year or two. But as with everything in the tech world... These things get outdated rather quickly.
If you're worried about buying a device that would last you for years and years (with updates I mean), maybe the Nexus 6 would be best as it will be covered for a WHILE by Google. It's absolutely the most advanced HW (processor, memory, screen) so it will be updated for a while!
If you want a G3 now, get it right now. Thanks to the open sourcing efforts of someone, LG's likely to close down the bootloader exploit in the next couple of days.
Unless you like your freedom restricted, in which case, buy a G3 whenever you want.
A very good buy the only phone in my opinion would be the note 4 to actually consider, with that said it also is the easiest root and boot right now with great support from the developers, hands down top three phone until next summer when we'll be asking each other the same question.
The upgrade from the Nexus 4 to the G3 is worth it in every way. I've had my G3 for several months now and it is a great phone.
Yes
Yes I would definitely recommend this phone for a number of reasons:
Overall screen size
Highest % of front face used by screen
4K display
Battery life (I dont do gaming)
Cannot recommend more highly
However, at the end of the day each phone has its advantages and plus points and drawbacks and you need to align your requirements with these stregnths.

Loved my S3 but thinking of upgrading

Easy, lightweight, slides right into my pocket, light enough to run wth, fell multiple times without breaking (although against swimming pool cement it did last week after 2.5 years). Need a new phone, I am thinking of the Galaxy S5 active as Ican upgrade on ATT, but I am a little dissappointed by the fact that there doesn't seem to be newer battery technology, and the existing battery technology advanced have been mulled by what I see as increases in hardware and processing power, pixel density that aren't really needed on a mobile device.
What is a good upgrade phone as far as ergonomics, battery life, and original development/replacement battery/memory card from the Galaxy S3?
I am using the ZenFone 2 and so far loving it, great processor, 4gb ram, fast charging and a great price
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I was thinking about upgrading to the nexus 5 or the HTC One M8 (its just so dam beautiful!) Those are phones I would recomend
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I am using the ZenFone 2 and so far loving it, great processor, 4gb ram, fast charging and a great price
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Is it similar to the GS3 in terms of size and weight? That's what the OP is asking about.
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Is it similar to the GS3 in terms of size and weight? That's what the OP is asking about.
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The Zenfone 2 is bigger than the GS3 at 5.5" screen size, but most phones fall somewhere in the 5 - 5.5" bracket these days unless you're buying the mini variant. The Zenfone 2 is about 30% heavier too, but between the larger form factor and a battery that is about 1/3 larger than the S3 the extra weight is definitely accounted for with features.
I was afraid the Atom processor might hold back the Zenfone 2 development scene, but I just recently read that at least one of the Zenfone 2 variants now has a CM 12.1 alpha. That didn't take long, but time will tell how custom ROMs actually perform on the device vs. stock because we know Asus and Intel will never release the complete x86_64 code. The price point on them is great for the hardware you get. I've been thinking really hard about picking one up myself. However, my old reliable S3 is really still working just fine and running Android 5.1.1 thanks to all the hardworking devs. I just can't convince myself that it is time for a change.
If running a desktop OS on your phone appeals to you, the Intel processor in the Zenfone 2 lends itself pretty well to that apparently. This could be nice trick if you have to interface anything that absolutely requires Micro$oft like corporate/business stuff. If I ever pick one up I might make a run at something like this with a lightweight Linux distro like Porteus.
Very cool phone for the $.
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The Zenfone 2 is bigger than the GS3 at 5.5" screen size, but most phones fall somewhere in the 5 - 5.5" bracket these days unless you're buying the mini variant. The Zenfone 2 is about 30% heavier too, but between the larger form factor and a battery that is about 1/3 larger than the S3 the extra weight is definitely accounted for with features.
I was afraid the Atom processor might hold back the Zenfone 2 development scene, but I just recently read that at least one of the Zenfone 2 variants now has a CM 12.1 alpha. That didn't take long, but time will tell how custom ROMs actually perform on the device vs. stock because we know Asus and Intel will never release the complete x86_64 code. The price point on them is great for the hardware you get. I've been thinking really hard about picking one up myself. However, my old reliable S3 is really still working just fine and running Android 5.1.1 thanks to all the hardworking devs. I just can't convince myself that it is time for a change.
If running a desktop OS on your phone appeals to you, the Intel processor in the Zenfone 2 lends itself pretty well to that apparently. This could be nice trick if you have to interface anything that absolutely requires Micro$oft like corporate/business stuff. If I ever pick one up I might make a run at something like this with a lightweight Linux distro like Porteus.
Very cool phone for the $.
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How about battery life that is the biggest thing for me with the form factor
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How about battery life that is the biggest thing for me with the form factor
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I haven't broke down and bought one yet, so I can't comment. Maybe go ask over in their forum.
I still have my eye on them. The zenfone 2 will probably still be my next purchase unless something more promising comes out between now and then. That's a beast of a phone for $200 - $300.
I'm on AT&T and their phones are a parade of locked down Samsung, LG, and Apple devices, and the AT&T Next thing that they push you towards is really just a payment plan if you do the math. They don't even really subsidize phones anymore. You'll come out way ahead by buying a zenfone 2 or maybe another cheap, used unlocked phone and adding it to their network, and you won't have to deal with their attempts to lock down your device. I'd defect entirely to Straight Talk or some other MVNO, but I haven't convinced the family that it's a good idea just yet.
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I haven't broke down and bought one yet, so I can't comment. Maybe go ask over in their forum.
I still have my eye on them. The zenfone 2 will probably still be my next purchase unless something more promising comes out between now and then. That's a beast of a phone for $200 - $300.
I'm on AT&T and their phones are a parade of locked down Samsung, LG, and Apple devices, and the AT&T Next thing that they push you towards is really just a payment plan if you do the math. They don't even really subsidize phones anymore. You'll come out way ahead by buying a zenfone 2 or maybe another cheap, used unlocked phone and adding it to their network, and you won't have to deal with their attempts to lock down your device. I'd defect entirely to Straight Talk or some other MVNO, but I haven't convinced the family that it's a good idea just yet.
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Nah it's still pretty subsdizied especially if you can sell the upgraded phone two years down the line.
Hate to say it but a new phone in the same size category will be tough to fill as most screens are pretty large. Closest thing is probably the moto x, but it is older and you sacrifice removable battery. The LG G3 and G4 sorry removable batteries and had memory expansion but they are considerably larger.
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I am using the ZenFone 2 and so far loving it, great processor, 4gb ram, fast charging and a great price
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Friend sold me his gs3 and he got a zenfone 2..he loves it.

What did you use before your ZenFone 2?

Just a little curious to see your responses.
Before my ZF2, I had an LG G4.
Before that, I had an LG G3, an HTC M8, and a Moto G3.
Bonus question: Which phone would you want to move onto after your ZF2?
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I was using a Moto G2 and before that a Galaxy SII, what a great phone it was!
If I had to change right now I would buy a "Moto G5S Plus", about same spec as the ZF2, 5.5" 1080p, wifi 5GHz, NFC, quick charge, SDcard, etc. IMHO better than the Xiaomi Mi A1.
I used a Nokia N95 8GB for at least 6 or 7 years.
I like my Zenfone, it's my first Android phone, and I'm using it for ~1 and a half year now.
I'm using linux almost every day, so I want my next device to be a Librem 5, because it will be a true GNU Linux phone, when it's released.
Using Android with terminal emulator and a linux environment with cli applications just too much hassle for me. Especially when I have to compile something.
I want more control over things.
I came from an LG Optimus G Pro.
Before that I had an LG Nitro HD.
Before that I had a Samsung Centura [shudder].
A bit before I had a Samsung Galaxy S2 for a bit but ended up selling it and going back to a dumbphone for a while (long story).
I am now using a ZTE Axon 7 and my wife has my Zenfone 2. Even though my A7 is a powerhouse I do have to admit that the ZF2 has better reception strength; we can be in the gym and she still gets signal and no one else gets anything, including me.
Before buying the Zenfone 2, I was using a HTC Desire 310 and before that a Samsung Galaxy Mini 2 (which was my first smartphone actually). Really like both those phones, but they were budget phones and they quickly started to have performance problems, since they were generally weak devices. That's why I thought I should use some extra money and buy a phone that would last me 2 years + . And decided on the Zenfone 2 ZE551ML after I researched details about it and saw that it has the best price/performance ratio for a 2015 phone. Still using it up to this day, after 2 years and a half, and I'm still happy with it. It works as if I bought it yesterday. The only problem I ever had with it was with the battery, last year in September, it started draining fast and the phone was shutting down when the battery meter was at 25%. Went to an Asus service, got the battery replaced in like 1 week and everything's been fine since then.
And well, what phone I want to buy next? No idea, maybe a Zenfone 3 or 4, since I'm satisfied with my current one.
There are a few phones I'd like to have, but I think I'd end up getting a Moto G4 Plus.
Since 2011 i used to Nokia 3310 until last month i buy ZE551ML , I think his has the best hardware from his gamme but the software is not worthy for it
My signature says it all, but many of those are my wife's, and the last thing I used was the LG L9.
Bought in 2013, its my first Android and still rocking today with AOSP 4.4.4, serving as my old man's everyday phone.
I would like another LG for its design and lightweight-ness, but they are quite pricey for mediocre hardware.
Zenfone 4 Max or Xiaomi 5X came into mind, but I can also settle for a refurbished iPhone 6s Plus (and jailbreak it right away LOL).
However, after searching around, Oppo F3 (or the newly announced F5) would really match my criteria for hardware, screen size, and the old-school dedicated slot for MicroSD.
Galaxy Nexus... and i still use it as a 2nd phone...

Question Helping me make a decision

When ever a new phone comes out I get excited like many. My current phone is OP 8pro and is a great phone. But my previous phone was a Pixel 2Xl and I felt it was a great phone. The Pixel still had a better camara than the 8 Pro.
So now comes the Pixel 6 & 6 Pro. They look nice but the 6 pro is slightly bigger and heavier than my 8 Pro. I've searched a lot to see if the series has facial recognition. From what I've brought up I can't find if it has it not. At this point in a "flag ship" phone they should kick a... and have everything plus be a step ahead of anything that has come out with in 6 months.
Does the 6 series beat out my 8 pro, significantly? Should I think about a 9 pro?
Or stay put for another year, maybe wait the OP 10?
Thanks for ay input!
I'm trading my OnePlus 9 Pro in for the Pixel 6 Pro. I can assure you despite what you see in reviews the camera on the 9 Pro isn't quite top notch. Also with OnePlus, they are folding into parent company Oppo completely so my tenure with them has now concluded after having the 6T/7T Pro McLaren/8T/9 Pro.
One plus are basically becoming oppo and one reason I'm changing my oppo Reno 2 for a 6 Pro is that awful updates that oppo do. I've had one actual proper update come through on the phone in 2 years. I've had to mess about using VPN connections to connect to different countries to get any security updates from them. The one Android update they did release almost broke the phone. I'd never go back to them. I had a pixel 2xl previously, which I've still got, and it was flawless even when I had to use it while trying to fix the oppo. I'm looking forward to going back to a phone with regular updates and updates that actually work.
I know too well it's difficult to decide very often. The Pro is slightly heavier than my Note 10+, too - about the same dimensions, just slightly longer and narrower, IIRC, than the Note 10+.
I haven't used facial recognition yet, but maybe I would eventually if it became available. For me, the selling points for the 6 Pro were the 512 GB of storage and the pure Android that works as Google intended it to work - without Samsung's **** software that doesn't work very well even with Google's standard apps.
If you're happy with the software on your OP 8 Pro, I'd stick with it since it has the facial recognition you prefer. That said, the two previous responses are pretty convincing to get the 6 Pro.
If you're still itching for a new phone, though, then absolutely, go for the 6 Pro unless you want to stay smaller, then go for the non-Pro 6 unless you need the 512 GB storage model of the Pro.
I currently have the OP 8 Pro and while the P6 Pro may weigh a little more, the OP is just a hair taller, and they look to be the exact same width. I never found the camera on the OP to be very good. The modded Gcam app works better, imo. So, along with what I'm assuming is going to be a stellar camera, I'm also excited about the AI integration Google wants to bring with their tensor chip. For me, it was a no brainer. I've had the OP for two years and it's starting to show. I think the 6 Pro will be quite a step up.
94b20gsr said:
I'm trading my OnePlus 9 Pro in for the Pixel 6 Pro. I can assure you despite what you see in reviews the camera on the 9 Pro isn't quite top notch. Also with OnePlus, they are folding into parent company Oppo completely so my tenure with them has now concluded after having the 6T/7T Pro McLaren/8T/9 Pro.
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Seeing the reviews, the 6p is close to the iPhone 13 pro max' camera, if not better. However, the tensor chip seems to fall behind but Google did this on purpose and that was to extend battery life despite having a slower processor than their competitors
All of the above have pro's and con's....and price points!
Flagships ftw
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Seeing the reviews, the 6p is close to the iPhone 13 pro max' camera, if not better. However, the tensor chip seems to fall behind but Google did this on purpose and that was to extend battery life despite having a slower processor than their competitors
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Yes, and I am in agreeance on the 6 Pro camera. I was referencing the OnePlus 9 Pro since the OP mentioned it as a possible contender. The Tensor exceeds in the GPU category vs an 888 only slightly, and is also slightly behind in the CPU space vs the 888.
Man, all great inputs thanks!! I understand what some of you've said about the updates. When I had my 2 xl , it was cool that they'd get the updates first. As far as OP, going forward, that it will not be the same OP, that's sad and it's maybe time to "go back home" to a Pixel.
Here's my two cents;
I've been on Android since the HTC H1/Dream. Flashed the heck out of it and eventually got myself a DroidX. From there, I went all into the Nexus line. After that turned into Pixel, I stayed with pixel phones. I like to test phones so over the course of time, I had the OnePlus One (loved that phone). I still have my OnePlus 2, tried several phones from HTC LG; used a Samsung s10 for a good while and I still keep some of my favorite phones, they still all work and I still love them and try to keep them updated with custom AOSP roms; my Nexus 5 is still alive and well, the OnePlus X is still fantastic to hold, the Palm phone is an amazing form factor, the Essential PH-1 is incredible to this day (minus the **** cameras), preferring smaller phones, the Xperia XZ1 Compact is awesome, I just got rid of my old OnePlus 5t and both my brother and my best friend are deep into OnePlus since the One.
But I always end up coming back to a Pixel.
Like someone already said, the cameras are fabulous, but they are definitely not "the best", however, in my experience, they ARE the most consistently close to the best. At the time, the Samsung Galaxy s10 had, arguably, a better camera than the pixel of the era (Pixel 3 or Pixel 4, depending on the date, since pixels release late in the year) but it was never as consistent (with me). With the pixel, I always knew I could double tap the power button and take a shot in just a few seconds, and the picture would come out consistently great. People can get amazing shots with a OnePlus, but it requires more effort than the consistency of the pixel.
I don't really care all that much about picture quality, despite what it may seem, but I think it is a good reflection of essentially everything else. Nothing is really THE most important part of a phone for me except for "feel", and my golden standard is the Nexus 5. Perfect size. The Pixel 3 is also a great feeling device. Sure, RAM is important, but in this day and age, for most people, I'd say 6GB or more is good enough. Less than 128GB of storage is not worth getting at this point. Fast charging is cool, just like wireless charging, but a battery that'll live throughout the day is a necessity (this is one thing Pixels have NEVER been able to excel at, for example, hopefully the 6 changes that).
Then there's the OS, and what comes with it (like, updates). Samsung has gotten MUCH better. Their Touchwiz was absolutely atrocious. But OneUI is not bad. It seems like most manufacturers are going now for a more muted skin than they used to (MotoBlur was pretty bad, HTC Sense was pretty, but heavy, TouchWiz was awful, Miui was an iOS copy) so we're far better off now, but it's easy to misrepresent how awesome it feels to receive updates in time. Google announces a new OS, and you've got it. All the new goodies (mostly). While on any other manufacturer, you MIGHT get it in 3 months, you might not get it at all.
I've been on Android 12 since beta 3 a couple of months ago, on a Pixel 3.
I skipped the 5, sold my 4 and went down to the 3, which still works great. I am hoping the 6 is not huge. Needless to say, I preordered the 6. 256gb. I personally think they did a very compelling job. Sure, it's got last years 5g hardware. Sure, there's no "small" version. Sure, the SoC is not exactly better than what Qualcomm puts out. But I think by now, I've made the point that a phone is more than the sum of its parts. And it seems, imo, that Google found a pretty good balance, with a competitive and consistently great camera, a fantastic feeling phone, at a reasonable price.

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