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Should I get the Optimus G pro?

A week ago I broke my nexus 4, cracked it lol. So Im using this chance to get a upgrade of space(sdcard slot) and I found this phone broken on ebay (cracked screen nothing else) for 130. My question is: is it worth getting this phone, or should I get the optimus G (e970) and put it on tmobile..
The Optimus G pro is supposed to be alot better than the e970 and I really think it is, Specifically because:
Internal Storage of 32gb
Bigger screen
13 Mega Pixel instead of 8
Notification Led is in front instead of side
Battery is way bigger
and many others..
My brother doesnt think I should try for the phone because he has heard that the performance is worse than the e970 because its a bigger screen with a higher pixel density and the same gpu as the e970, Im not worried about the gameplay right now. Should I be?
However I do have some concerns which are:
The Developer community is smaller I think
And is the service good on tmobile?
My brother has his en970 on Tmobile, is it possible to have the Pro on tmobile? and if so does it get good service?
Ill list more if I remember any
Have any of you had the e970 before you got this phone? how did the difference feel?
I look forward to hearing your opinions. and I really appreciate them.
Sincerely Joshua
P.S. I apologise for any incorrect grammar

Both LG phones just work, not much need for development.
It comes down to whether you want the larger screen.
I have never used T-Mobile and have no idea how they work on that carrier, but don't they have the same bands?
I am currently using a MotoX and keep eying the G Pro as my next phone. My Optimus G was every bit as good as the MotoX and the G Pro is essentially the same phone with a larger screen.
Good luck with your next phone..
BTW - the camera is great on my wife's G Pro and so is the battery life.

Yeah I'm really hoping to get that phone soon too. Because it looks amazing, way better than the e970 lol. And personally I think the larger screen will be something I'll get used to.
Yeah, both the pro and the e970 have the right bands for T-Mobile and I'm hoping it'll work good or better than the e970 does.

I bet, as soon as I heard about the camera and the battery life I was like "whoa"
And thanks btw, Good luck to you too.

bought one today on ebay for 225$...
i think its the cheapest used snapdragon 600 phone on the market..

capeorigins said:
A week ago I broke my nexus 4, cracked it lol. So Im using this chance to get a upgrade of space(sdcard slot) and I found this phone broken on ebay (cracked screen nothing else) for 130. My question is: is it worth getting this phone, or should I get the optimus G (e970) and put it on tmobile..
The Optimus G pro is supposed to be alot better than the e970 and I really think it is, Specifically because:
Internal Storage of 32gb
Bigger screen
13 Mega Pixel instead of 8
Notification Led is in front instead of side
Battery is way bigger
and many others..
My brother doesnt think I should try for the phone because he has heard that the performance is worse than the e970 because its a bigger screen with a higher pixel density and the same gpu as the e970, Im not worried about the gameplay right now. Should I be?
However I do have some concerns which are:
The Developer community is smaller I think
And is the service good on tmobile?
My brother has his en970 on Tmobile, is it possible to have the Pro on tmobile? and if so does it get good service?
Ill list more if I remember any
Have any of you had the e970 before you got this phone? how did the difference feel?
I look forward to hearing your opinions. and I really appreciate them.
Sincerely Joshua
P.S. I apologise for any incorrect grammar
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I'm comming from an LG E970 (OG AT&T variant) and got my g pro recently so here are my thoughts:
Pros:
-GORGEOUS screen. The huge screen is a lot better than the OG, and the size makes it ideal for movie/video watching.
-Lots of storage. The OG has 16 internal and sd slot. I had mine with a 16 gig sd. Never ran out of space but the extra is always welcome.
-Camera. The 8mp cam on the OG is decent at best. The G pro's cam is a whole lot better in every aspect.
-Battery. Whith my OG i was reaching for my charger before my workday ended (with moderate to heavy use of course, some gaming, lots of music, web surfing), the G pro battery lasts a lot longer.
-Stock modded kitkat rom with optimus UI and several lg goodies available (knock off anyone?)
-Price. I got mine in mint condition for under $300 on ebay, and there are a lot of offers for $250-$300 in good shape. Just like the OG this phone is a good bargain when it comes to bang for buck.
Cons
-Very small dev support. The OG and N4 have a ton of roms to choose from, the G pro doesn't.
-Size can be overwhelming at first, takes a while to get used to. I have small hands but still manage to do most hings one handed.
-"Brickability" or how easy it is to get a soft brick on this phone(read the threads). Though it is easy to bring back and i havent read of any hard bricks, a lot of people have soft bricked trying to flash radoenmaya's kitkat rom.
so there you have it. I've only had my G pro for a couple of days, but used an optimus G for months, and with the new kitkat rom, I can't say I miss the OG except maybe for the size sometimes(playing ingress on the G pro is sweet!).

Yeah, personally I think it is one of the cheapest too. That's why I want it so bad haha.
However my plan is to buy a cracked one on eBay and repair it myself, hope it goes well.
And that's one of my fears is about the fact that the dev community isn't too big so there are few ROMs, however I don't really mind because it was a little overwhelming to choose from so many ROMs on the nexus 4.
P.s. have you tried beanstalk? How was it?

Og pro has snapdragon 600 no s4 as og has.

Oh yeah true.. Lol

capeorigins said:
Yeah, personally I think it is one of the cheapest too. That's why I want it so bad haha.
However my plan is to buy a cracked one on eBay and repair it myself, hope it goes well.
And that's one of my fears is about the fact that the dev community isn't too big so there are few ROMs, however I don't really mind because it was a little overwhelming to choose from so many ROMs on the nexus 4.
P.s. have you tried beanstalk? How was it?
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Havent tried it, not really fond of AOSP or CM based roms. I prefer stock modded. I tried it on my OG though and it was solid.

Oh lol yeah I love cm based roms.
Haven't tried too many stock ROMs with mods

Should I buy the LG G3?

Hey guys so I have the E971 I love it really I am using ported kitkat paulicat rom and I really love the LG G series
the thing is I don't know if I should buy the LG G3 or not? I can afford it in good price
and the thing that offical kitkat haven't arrived to the E971 bothers me

I would say go for it. The generation jump alone is worth it, plus if you can get it for a good price then you should take the opportunity.

Personally I wouldn't buy anything until seeing whats going to occur with 64bit. And i was kinda disappointed with the LG-E975 performance after coming from galaxy S1. Other than camera and lte/4G, LG-E975 is not massively faster than SGS1 (i dont play games). What makes a phone great is its development community that continues to find ways to make a phone better and up to date with current android version. I think we have a great dev community for LGOG. A G3 is going to do the same things as LGOG, but slightly faster.
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nchc said:
Personally I wouldn't buy anything until seeing whats going to occur with 64bit. And i was kinda disappointed with the LG-E975 performance after coming from galaxy S1. Other than camera and lte/4G, LG-E975 is not massively faster than SGS1 (i dont play games). What makes a phone great is its development community that continues to find ways to make a phone better and up to date with current android version. I think we have a great dev community for LGOG. A G3 is going to do the same things as LGOG, but slightly faster.
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Really...
If you think the G isn't fast enough compared to SG1 why do you compare the G3 to the G.
The difference between this 2 is even little than the G compared to SG1.

patalao said:
Really...
If you think the G isn't fast enough compared to SG1 why do you compare the G3 to the G.
The difference between this 2 is even little than the G compared to SG1.
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In specifications, yes there is a big difference. However, in my experience of how i use a phone those specs dont convert to a great difference in daily use. Its kind of like buying a new car, its nice and you drive it faster to begin with. After a month or so you drive it the same as your old car and get to the same places. Your phone carrier keeps the internet at relatively the same speed too.
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That's why I said that the difference between the g3 and the G is even lower,so there's no point in comparing the 2, in your case of course.
If you don't benefit of the features of the phone then there's no point for you to spend much money on this

Adooda said:
Hey guys so I have the E971 I love it really I am using ported kitkat paulicat rom and I really love the LG G series
the thing is I don't know if I should buy the LG G3 or not? I can afford it in good price
and the thing that offical kitkat haven't arrived to the E971 bothers me
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if you have money to spend why not
but it's not a good reason to change phone if the uptade does not come. IMHO

igli83 said:
if you have money to spend why not
but it's not a good reason to change phone if the uptade does not come. IMHO
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you are all guys right, the thing is that the knock on/off feature can be really useful to me since I use the phone a lot during meetings and the thing is I don't the LG will continue updating the LG OG anymore and the G3 can stay updated for 2-3 years ahead
but I don't know If I should wait for LG G4 or get this one that's my question
anyway thank you a lot

Trust me or not, you won't ever have 2-3 years support, maybe a year and an half, I would wait an half year or even a year and then decide to buy a new phone.

FWIW, my biggest issue with G3 is its size. Performance and functionality definitely gets improved with each generation, and there is no reason for not getting the best if you can afford it, but the the whole "bigger is better" trend is just driving me bonkers. I mean, with every new flagship from any OEM, the phones get bigger and bigger. G's size is perfect for me. G2 is marginally bigger (more if you add a case), but still manageable. That would be the largest form-factor for me to use comfortably. Everything bigger (and G3 is quite noticeably bigger) is just unreasonable for a phone, and getting close to a tablet territory. I never understood WTH a "phablet" is. There is no such thing in my book -- you can't sit between two chairs, you just have to put your a$$ on one or the other. Anyway, just my $0.02 worth...

Help me choose my new phone

Hello friends,
It`s the time of the year to get a new phone.
My options are LG G3 and Nexus 6.
I have been using Moto X until now but the battery in Moto X 2nd Gen seems to be crap and guess i will miss active display and droid is not available in my region
Thanks in advance
Regards
Sanjay

yekollu said:
Hello friends,
It`s the time of the year to get a new phone.
My options are LG G3 and Nexus 6.
I have been using Moto X until now but the battery in Moto X 2nd Gen seems to be crap and guess i will miss active display and droid is not available in my region
Thanks in advance
Regards
Sanjay
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I am waiting to see the responses you get. I, too, am thinking of getting a new phone. I am still using the Nexus 4. The LG G3 can be had for quite a bit cheaper (at least on AT&T) right now. It is $480 vs. $650 for the Nexus 6.

Hi, I have both.
G3 a little lag, worst camera
N6 less lag, worst battery, and personally I don't like that much the screen, and way too big

diegodbm said:
Hi, I have both.
G3 a little lag, worst camera
N6 less lag, worst battery, and personally I don't like that much the screen, and way too big
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I thought the G3 was supposed to have a pretty good camera? It seems everything I read contradicts something else I've read. The battery life is good, the battery sucks. The screen is amazing, the screens nothing special. There's tons of lag, there isn't really any lag. I don't know what to think.

kottke said:
I thought the G3 was supposed to have a pretty good camera? It seems everything I read contradicts something else I've read. The battery life is good, the battery sucks. The screen is amazing, the screens nothing special. There's tons of lag, there isn't really any lag. I don't know what to think.
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Worst camera than N6, but it's a decent one.
I prefer IPS rather than Amoled, so for me, better screen the G3.

kottke said:
I thought the G3 was supposed to have a pretty good camera? It seems everything I read contradicts something else I've read. The battery life is good, the battery sucks. The screen is amazing, the screens nothing special. There's tons of lag, there isn't really any lag. I don't know what to think.
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The G3 has an excellent camera. It rivals the iPhone 6 and beats the iPhone 5s.
I would personally take the G3 over the Nexus 6. The G3 has expandable memory and a removable battery. It's also smaller and lighter and it feels better in your hand. The Nexus 6 is just too big as well. Beyond 5.5" phones become too big IMO.

^^This
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diegodbm said:
Worst camera than N6, but it's a decent one.
I prefer IPS rather than Amoled, so for me, better screen the G3.
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Beats any time of the day the n6 camera you are totally wrong on that /
Battery life is "ok" nothing crazy nothing bad camera is very good speakers are crisp and clear screen is very bright even outdoors
I'd take the g3
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shahkam said:
Beats any time of the day the n6 camera you are totally wrong on that /
Battery life is "ok" nothing crazy nothing bad camera is very good speakers are crisp and clear screen is very bright even outdoors
I'd take the g3
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OK. I'm wrong. Perhaps I just get the bad one.
Sent from my LG G3

Thanks everyone for your replies on this.
I don't mean to hijack this thread from OP, but would like opinions if it's ok.
I'm torn between going ahead and buying the G3 at it's current AT&T price of $480 (using Next), or waiting on some of the new models that are coming out. Specifically, the Galaxy S6, the HTC M9, the Flex 2, and finally the Asus Zenfone 2. All of those, with the exception of the Zenfone 2, will be at least $650 I presume, therefore the G3 is quite a bit cheaper. So, I'm not sure if the features of these new devices is worth waiting and paying more, or should I just go ahead and get the G3 now with it's $480 price tag?
Thanks again everyone.

My friend has also asked for my opinion whether he should buy a phone now or wait for the next flagships and my advise is : wait for it. The first few new phones should appear in stores in mid March - April, as Snapdragon 810 appears it might be worthwhile to wait for it as it supports 64bit vs the current 32bit.
Anyway, my opinions for OP's question is to go for the Nexus 6. I currently have a LG G3 and i find that its battery sucks (i came from a HTC Butterfly S and LG G2, im quite a heavy user (games, reddit, whatsapp and calls) and my screen on time at most is only maybe 3 to 3 and a half hours at best, while my Butterfly S was able to reach around 5-6hours vs my LG G2 4-5hours. I find that the 2K screen is not worth the battery life at all, its barely comparable with just a Full HD screen, and the processor cant handle it properly.
Camera is fantastic. HTC Butterfly S's camera utilises Ultrapixels (the same as the HTC One M7 and M8) and the G3 beats it completely. It takes miliseconds to snap a photo.
The LG G3 LAGS. Its not the kind of lag you get when you use a low end phone, its more like...microlags. For example - my LG G2 and LG G3 was at one point both running Resurrection Lollipop Rom, and while the LG G2 was really fast and fluid, the G3 feels different, everything seems slower and abit jaggedy, though its not visible ; more like as a gut feeling. Its more like the processor is struggling to handle the screen resolution itself, and somewhat succeeds though not entirely.
If i were you i would go for the Nexus 6, though the price and expandable storage takes some consideration.

fanghan said:
My friend has also asked for my opinion whether he should buy a phone now or wait for the next flagships and my advise is : wait for it. The first few new phones should appear in stores in mid March - April, as Snapdragon 810 appears it might be worthwhile to wait for it as it supports 64bit vs the current 32bit.
Anyway, my opinions for OP's question is to go for the Nexus 6. I currently have a LG G3 and i find that its battery sucks (i came from a HTC Butterfly S and LG G2, im quite a heavy user (games, reddit, whatsapp and calls) and my screen on time at most is only maybe 3 to 3 and a half hours at best, while my Butterfly S was able to reach around 5-6hours vs my LG G2 4-5hours. I find that the 2K screen is not worth the battery life at all, its barely comparable with just a Full HD screen, and the processor cant handle it properly.
Camera is fantastic. HTC Butterfly S's camera utilises Ultrapixels (the same as the HTC One M7 and M8) and the G3 beats it completely. It takes miliseconds to snap a photo.
The LG G3 LAGS. Its not the kind of lag you get when you use a low end phone, its more like...microlags. For example - my LG G2 and LG G3 was at one point both running Resurrection Lollipop Rom, and while the LG G2 was really fast and fluid, the G3 feels different, everything seems slower and abit jaggedy, though its not visible ; more like as a gut feeling. Its more like the processor is struggling to handle the screen resolution itself, and somewhat succeeds though not entirely.
If i were you i would go for the Nexus 6, though the price and expandable storage takes some consideration.
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1. Batterylife on the G3 is better then with the Nexus 6
2. Tried the new 20H firmware? No lag for me on that rom and i have many apps running in the background.
Just my 2 cents but i think besides your allready mentioned considerations the G3 is the better device because of the many usefull extra features it offers next to barebone android N6.

gee2012 said:
1. Batterylife on the G3 is better then with the Nexus 6
2. Tried the new 20H firmware? No lag for me on that rom and i have many apps running in the background.
Just my 2 cents but i think besides your allready mentioned considerations the G3 is the better device because of the many usefull extra features it offers next to barebone android N6.
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1. I somehow doubt it with my usage, Nexus 6 is AMOLED too which saves even more battery than G3's IPS screen.
2. Hmm ill try it now, though currently trying CloudyG3. Its not the number of apps it can run, the lag happens during more of its animations even when theres no apps in the background.

I'd choose G3, the nexus 6 is way big for me. The most important is I like the G3 outlook, it's gorgeous

And what about choosing between Sona Z3 vs HTC M8? Or other alike candidate (Samsung is not an option)?

LG G3 or Moto X 2nd Gen - which will I be happier with?

Hey so been looking around quite a bit at different phones and I think LG G3 appears to be a winner on paper. For phones which I can get for ~free with my AT&T upgrade (which knocks out the Note 4, but includes Moto X 2nd gen, galaxy S4) it has the biggest screen at 5.5" and the biggest battery at 3,000 mah, expandable memory (which the Moto X lacks), the back is removable to replace the battery/sim/etc (Moto X lacks), and has 3 gb of ram. However, I keep reading various reviews, both by critics and on Amazon, and people seem in agreement that the Moto X offers a better experience to the user than the LG G3. They say the G3 is buggy and bloated, the moto x is vanilla android and runs faster for it, the moto x screen is a better picture with the amoled feature, the battery lasts longer in the moto x because the screen does not draw as much power, and one reviewer even states that the G3 performs WORSE on benchmarks than the G2 . I'm curious what your all experience has been? Any insights or thoughts to share to help with this decision? I want to like the G3 better for a variety of reasons, but also don't want to ignore common experience. (well actually I'd like to get the Xperia Z3 for the 20 mp camera, but damn it only has a 5.2" screen, and it doesn't even seem to be sold for AT&T anywhere that I can find).
Thanks in advance!

I will try to give you an honest review , YES the phone is good on paper BUT on daily use is bad , its terrible , you read CPU with 2.5 Ghz woooow , BUT the phone gets hot in 5 minutes and forget about those Ghz , youll get like 1.2 to 1.5 Ghz , because of the 2k screen that gets too hot , battery drains like a 2013 smartphone , snapdragon 801 is a big no no on 2k screen
Camera is bad compared with a Sony Z2....
talking about the LG G2 if it weren't the micro-SD , the removable battery and the camera , it would be a downgrade
i consider the LG G2 better ....better battery life , gaming experience ....
If your choice depends on the price i would consider a sony xperia Z2 , the Lg G3 is not that bad , but having read dozens of persons regretting the buy.....
I would definitely buy this phone(LG G3) if the price were between 200 and 250$ , nothing more
THE BIGGEST CON IS THE SILLY 2K screen , you can lower the resolution but those pixels are still alive .....
this G3 model is a complete headache.....:crying: , i regret not buying the Z2
PD: my english is not good k

kiki0 said:
I will try to give you an honest review , YES the phone is good on paper BUT on daily use is bad , its terrible , you read CPU with 2.5 Ghz woooow , BUT the phone gets hot in 5 minutes and forget about those Ghz , youll get like 1.2 to 1.5 Ghz , because of the 2k screen that gets too hot , battery drains like a 2013 smartphone , snapdragon 801 is a big no no on 2k screen
Camera is bad compared with a Sony Z2....
talking about the LG G2 if it weren't the micro-SD , the removable battery and the camera , it would be a downgrade
i consider the LG G2 better ....better battery life , gaming experience ....
If your choice depends on the price i would consider a sony xperia Z2 , the Lg G3 is not that bad , but having read dozens of persons regretting the buy.....
I would definitely buy this phone(LG G3) if the price were between 200 and 250$ , nothing more
THE BIGGEST CON IS THE SILLY 2K screen , you can lower the resolution but those pixels are still alive .....
this G3 model is a complete headache.....:crying: , i regret not buying the Z2
PD: my english is not good k
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Sell your G3 and buy another phone mate, we allready got wining noobs in stock

gee2012 said:
Sell your G3 and buy another phone mate, we allready got wining noobs in stock
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you call me noob , and you have a LG G3 too....the irony in your fanboyism ,haha

kiki0 said:
you call me noob , and you have a LG G3 too....the irony in your fanboyism ,haha
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I`am not fanboy of anything realy. Whats wrong is wrong, i agree with the thermal throttling making the phone slower at times. you can however flash a custom rom or kernel to increase the threashold. The camera is great imo and the software is a joy to use compared to Samsung for instance. You`re opinion is a bit too negative about the phone imo. Overall its a good phone and price/quality ratio is excellent. Just my 2 cents

gee2012 said:
I`am not fanboy of anything realy. Whats wrong is wrong, i agree with the thermal throttling making the phone slower at times. you can however flash a custom rom or kernel to increase the threashold. The camera is great imo and the software is a joy to use compared to Samsung for instance. You`re opinion is a bit too negative about the phone imo. Overall its a good phone and price/quality ratio is excellent. Just my 2 cents
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Agreed. It sounds like he got a dud or was expecting too much. My phone has never overheated and I can go at least 24 hours without recharging. If I pushed the battery all the way down to 0%, I could probably go 30-36 hours. As most people have the ability to charge their phone every day, going 24 hours is good enough.
The camera on the phone is great as well as the button placement and double tap to wake/sleep. Paired with G3 Tweaksbox and the user experience is delightful.
I've never used the Moto X 2014 but the G3 is by no means a bad phone. One of the best of 2014 IMO.
A few reasons I love this phone:
2k screen
Removable battery
microSD support
Excellent camera
One of the highest screen to body ratios on any phone currently out
Great button placement
Loud speaker

Regarding the thermal throttling and other performance issues, I'm curious, is this still a problem or any better if you go through and debloat the phone (have seen various guides around that look pretty straightforward). Or is it actually more related to the screen size and pixels?
On that note, how does the quality of the screen display compare between the lg g3 (an IPS display right?) And an amoled display like the moto x or galaxy series? Is one a higher picture quality in terms of color, etc?

One of my best friends owns a moto x 2nd gen. I must say it is a beauty, and the feel in the hand is amazing, it screams quality. It has one front facing speaker which is good. Display is a bit on the warmer side, it looks nice and "contrasty", although i'm not a fan of Amoled displays. Oh, and it is very very snappy. Nearly stock android and quick updates is also always a plus. My friend praises it's battery life even though on paper it is nothing special, but it looks like the software is optimized well. As long as you're not a heavy gamer it should easily get you through a day.
I have the 32/3GB G3, i came from a nexus 5. I already mentioned this somewhere around here, it's not as smooth as a nexus 5 (or moto x 2014), but i like some of the added functionality and i can live with the occasional microlags. The speaker is powerful, even though it is firing backwards. The display is ok, i would'nt say it's gorgeous as some say around here, but it's also not bad as others do.
Before i got my G3 i was worried about overheating issues that i read about online, and i have to say, for now i haven't faced this issue (maybe because it's winter and temp. is low, which of course does not count for temp. indoors)
Low thermal throttling threshold is not only a G3 thing, it's also well known on nexus 4 & 5 (both made by LG).
I think lollipop still needs a lot of optimizing (including for nexus devices), and i believe the G3 can only perform better in the future. Although, IMO it will never be as smooth as something running (nearly) stock android.
Oh, and battery life on my G3 is amazing. Over 5h of screen on on a full day uptime. (With my usage pattern of course). Add to all that microSD expansion option, and removable battery -if you're into that or need extra juice. The camera is also a plus on the G3's side.
No one can make the decision instead of you. It's your call. You have to add the + and - of both, and see what suits you best.
My advice is, if you're asking for the better software experience, are not afraid of burn-in on an amoled display and don't need a removable battery/ expandable storage, then go with the Moto X 2014.

rayiskon said:
No one can make the decision instead of you. It's your call. You have to add the + and - of both, and see what suits you best.
My advice is, if you're asking for the better software experience, are not afraid of burn-in on an amoled display and don't need a removable battery/ expandable storage, then go with the Moto X 2014.
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Yea you are exactly right. I think it is bothersome that the Moto X does not provide for expandable storage nor battery replacement. But the user experience is important; don't want glitches and hangs. Though that being said, I'm currently using a Galaxy S3 with the unofficial Omni rom port and their kernel, and while it does have some glitches and hang ups it doesn't bother me too much, so I imagine the LG G3 would perform much more smoothly, especially if the Stock rom is in operation rather than a custom port.
Have you tried any of the debloating? (lots of tutorials, here's the one I bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-remove-bloatware-att-lg-g3-t2822501)
I'm curious if that would not make the OS feel more "snappy" and "vanilla android" as people keep praising the Moto X for. If that were the case then hands down I would go for the G3 with the removable battery, expandable memory, larger sccreen, etc.
Side note - even though the Moto X does not have a removable back, I would assume there is still a way to exchange the sim easily for when traveling abroad, etc?

bnook said:
Yea you are exactly right. I think it is bothersome that the Moto X does not provide for expandable storage nor battery replacement. But the user experience is important; don't want glitches and hangs. Though that being said, I'm currently using a Galaxy S3 with the unofficial Omni rom port and their kernel, and while it does have some glitches and hang ups it doesn't bother me too much, so I imagine the LG G3 would perform much more smoothly, especially if the Stock rom is in operation rather than a custom port.
Have you tried any of the debloating? (lots of tutorials, here's the one I bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-remove-bloatware-att-lg-g3-t2822501)
I'm curious if that would not make the OS feel more "snappy" and "vanilla android" as people keep praising the Moto X for. If that were the case then hands down I would go for the G3 with the removable battery, expandable memory, larger sccreen, etc.
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The G3 is definitely quicker than the S3 (i had one for 3-4 months back in the day).
As for "debloating", don't take any guide word for word, tastes differ, and there are things you probably wouldn't want to move/delete. I used to "debloat" my nexuses by deleting all Google crap that is found in the playstore, so removing from /system and installing on /data, and then greenify what i want to greenify, and even on a nexus you would see a lil boost in battery and lower RAM usage. So, yeah, removing anything form /system on a G3 should help a bit performance wise, to what extent? i'm not sure. My G3 is full stock and unrooted for the moment, and as i said, i'm not bothered by the occasional lil hickups here and there.
Side note - even though the Moto X does not have a removable back, I would assume there is still a way to exchange the sim easily for when traveling abroad, etc?
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not sure, you should check with your carrier, but if you buy it from Moto directly you do get the lil pin to eject the sim (like the one iphones and many unibody android phones use)

Just saw this, apparently I can get the lg g3 for $0.01 from amazon and they will give me $100 gift card! Hmm, probably will go with being paid $99.99 to take lg g3 over moto x!
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/05/deal-buy-an-att-lg-g3-from-amazon-for-cheap-get-100-gift-card/

Disappointed by the LG Nexus 5X specs and price ... is the LG G4 still worth buying?

As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.

Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
How fast the software updates get released?
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.

I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...

Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light

I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix

I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.

I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.

I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.

ambervals6 said:
G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...