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I've heard that despite being designed for water resistance, the Defy has water sensors which can be checked for warranty purposes. Can anyone here report the locations of these sensors? And if you took your Defy for a bath, are the sensors now affected?
I guess most handset have these type of sensors today and there actually just stickers that get colored when moisture reaches them. So the only way to find out if you triggered it would be to physically open up the device before and after exposure. Since the Defy is not water proof I'm pretty sure that they will not replace your phone if it has been water damaged. If you just forget the caps on the USB or headphone outputs it will propably be damaged by water and you would void your warranty.
One is one the edge of the battery, it's a white rectangle with pink X's on it; the other is under the battery on the device itself. It's a tiny white hexagon.
the battery door is air tight, but only up to 3 feet I believe. so if you drop it in the toilet or in a cup of tea, the phone will be fine and the water stickers wont be affected. I would assume that there might be another on the inside of the phone.
Eh.. I would want to test this phone so bad..
Infact I'm considering bringing a ziplock bag full of water to the tmobile store and demanding the phone be tested before I buy it. Making sure that they bring out the one I'm going to buy and testing that one specifically.
If they say no its w/e. But, I want to see a test before I jump in head first.
With that said, the folks at engadget I think it was ruined one of the two test units because the flap on the back of the battery didn't go in right.
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Eh.. I would want to test this phone so bad..
Infact I'm considering bringing a ziplock bag full of water to the tmobile store and demanding the phone be tested before I buy it. Making sure that they bring out the one I'm going to buy and testing that one specifically.
If they say no its w/e. But, I want to see a test before I jump in head first.
With that said, the folks at engadget I think it was ruined one of the two test units because the flap on the back of the battery didn't go in right.
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OK, so I have had mine in a few glasses of water at restaurants (people bragging to me there was nothing their phone couldn't do that my could) and in a hot, tall Starbucks (regular coffee) at a meeting that almost gave everyone a heart attack. And, you must have seen the video where they start the camcorder and drop it to the bottom of a pool? W/O issues? I'm thinking of having a holster made for it that clips to the front of my snowboard.
They would be inside where the battery is stored. This part of the phone is, naturally, not water proof (battery, sd and sim card contacts). There is a water resistant gasket on the seal where the backing goes. It is spring tensioned so it makes a good, watertight seal. So, I would not sweat triggering the moisture sensor IF you have the back of the phone on correctly.
I wouldn't go deep sea diving with the phone either... water proof or not. I don't see any harm in having the phone in your pants pocket on the floor while your taking a shower though..
Sorry, for some reason I didn't see the NUMEROUS replies to your post. I basically just parroted off what the others had said.
Sorry, for some reason I didn't see the NUMEROUS replies to your post. I basically just parroted off what the others had said.
Moisture indicators are common-place in phones, generally there's one on the battery and another one on the phone in the area the battery sits in.
Most of them are white and turn a very noticeable red when damp however some others are, as people have described, white with a coloured pattern and the smudging of the pattern is the indication.
That said, any engineer worth their salt will be able to open up the handset and check the circuit-boards themselves for corrosion, the indicators are there to speed up matters but are by no means the only way in which moisture damage can be detected.
put it to water?
Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
I haven't held a g3 yet but its build looks a lot like the galaxy line of phones and the only things they added to the s5 to make it water resistant is a small bead of something on the lid that acts like weather stripping and a water tight lid for the usb 3 slot. Just add a bead of caulking to the g3 lid and buy a case with a usb cover. I bet you would be just as water resistant as any phone that is right out of box.
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
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I didn't even think about the speakers
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That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
Edit: the link said g watch but it was the G3 my mistake.
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I didn't even think about the speakers
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Well the guy who made the video said the speaker and in call microphone still works perfectly even after a day so I reckon this phone has some level of ip rating.
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
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True.. I think I would be hesitant to even try this using the z2 or g5 both of which are officially waterproof/resistant.. I damaged my s3 when I accidentally dropped that in the toilet lol the speaker stopped working and the screen would go blank every now and then. So its nice to know the g3 may survive if accidentally drop in a puddle
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Battery dropped to 19% after 2 hours. Couldn't tell what it started at but looked pretty full.
I wouldn't try it with my G3, it seems to be fake.
Even the Z2 is not covered by the guarantee if it fail due to water, so....
"Don't try at home!"
Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Was about to say this. It's the ions (minerals) in water that make it more conductive and short your devices. It's why you can submerge PC's in super clean oil for cooling and still have them work. Don't ever submerge your phone if avoidable.
People are idiots.
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yes it is
Unfortunately and as gross as this sounds...I dropped mine in the toilet. It was submerged for atleast 10 seconds before i realized. Dont ask. Just make sure you put it fully in your pocket before standing. After a full sanitizing...and I mean full...it still works fine. No issuses at all. Never turned off...never flickered...
Although I do have an Otterbox on it. That probably helped.
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That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
Well.. I have seen videos of the submergence testing on the G3 and it coming out okay from it. But if it actually were true manufacturers would jump to label & sell it as it makes a great marketing point.
But LG didn't, and they must have a reason for it. That's why I wouldn't go too careless with my phone.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
It is not water resistant. Never been advertised as . don't spread ridiculous info mate !!!
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
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The something's weird, because the video I saw when clicking on that link very clearly shows a G3 dunked in a glass bowl full of water. Not a Gwatch in sight.
I can say that my phone survived after being in a my swimming trunks for 1 hour before I realized I jumped in the pool while it was still in my pocket. I didnt realized that I had swam with it until after I got out. The phone was dead, but then I immediately removed the battery cover and battery. After shaking the water out a bit, pushing the water out through the usb and phone jack holes, I then let it dry out in the sun while I reluctantly tried not to let it ruin my vacation.
Later on that night I used a blow dryer to blow warm air into any and all holes I could see in the phone case. Then I put in a spare battery and the phone started right up! Granted the lower half of my screen had some moisture in it. I can tell because the screen was really bright there. So I turned the phone off, pulled the battery and started blow drying a bit more. After restarting, i noticed the moisture in the screen was less.
A few days later I would say my phone is fully recovered. Speakers work fine, microphone, bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc. I am semi surprised, but not so much because of the lack of moving parts in the phone. for instance, my ipod classic with a hard drive never recovered.
The only thing that I do not think has fully recovered is the battery that was submerged. this battery does not seem to hold a charge as good as it used to. but thats fine... as long as I didnt have to replace my phone. Luckily I had the spare battery already.
Anyone gone swimming or showered with the Moto360 ?
Sorry if the question sounds absurd but would like to hear if anyone has done so or done so regularly and if there are any issues. I practically wear my casio 24x7 ... so just wanted to know.
Thanks.
The moto 360 IS NOT RATED FOR SHOWER OR POOL. If you look up what the ip67 rating really is, the device cannot withstand forceful jets of water or extended submersion. It was designed to withstand dust and short immersion or gentle splashes - NOT hot shower jets or extended submersion in the pool. I have seen a lot of misunderstanding on what exactly the device is rated for and would hate to see people trash their watches assuming its "waterproof" because it is not.
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The moto 360 IS NOT RATED FOR SHOWER OR POOL. If you look up what the ip67 rating really is, the device cannot withstand forceful jets of water or extended submersion. It was designed to withstand dust and short immersion or gentle splashes - NOT hot shower jets or extended submersion in the pool. I have seen a lot of misunderstanding on what exactly the device is rated for and would hate to see people trash their watches assuming its "waterproof" because it is not.
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Thanks. I just don't understand if it is really that much harder to make it fully waterproof when so many normal watches are water proof.
I wonder if the limitation is really around the wireless charging as most waterproof watches needs a steel back screwed on or due to the touch screen.
Well there are several spots that water could eventually infiltrate, if hot and or if a jet spray. The button, the back, the USB sticker, etc. Also, with a smart watch it is definitely more difficult to seal as opposed to a full steel case with screwed on back plate as you mentioned. To top it off, if I were Motorola I would stay conservative on what I had the device rated for to try to keep down issues of people seeing "waterproof" and going hog wild at the amusement park or cash wash with high pressure spray hitting the device.
Here's a video try:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khmC5EwdwqQ
And here's what Moto says:
Is my Moto 360 water resistant and water proof?
Moto 360 is water resistance, meaning it can sustain sweat and rain.
Water resistant in up to 1 meter of fresh water for up to 30 minutes. Exposure of leather band to water is not recommended.
Note: Moto 360 is IP67 rated.
That being said, I have not tried it.
I used mine in the shower its was fine however the water makes the screen flip out because it detected the water as the screen being touched which is normal however because the display can be waked by tapping it it was difficult to stop it from doing things while wet. So yes you should be fine in the shower. however if you decide to do anything ridiculous with yours don't come crying to me about water damage. I'm not liable for your actions. but mine was fine.
I drive a motorcycle, have been caught in some heavy rain with the M360, no issues thus far. Everything works fine.
I wouldn't recommend swimming in a pool or taking a shower with it on, there is no point really.
Well I mean I poured a bottle of water over mine to freak out my friends, but that is within the ip67 certification. Shower and pool really aren't.
Showered and washed dishes with it.
Like some people said- the screen flips out if you shower with it, as it senses every little drop of water as if it's been touched.
EDIT- btw, jets of water in the shower?? What kind of awesome jet shower head do you guys have?? Mine just spits water out with a very reasonable amount of pressure.
Btw I read on motos support site that they don't replace devices with water damage so I'd be very careful
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Safe to wash hands with it, you think?
I work in a restaurant and I'm always washing my hands.
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Safe to wash hands with it, you think?
I work in a restaurant and I'm always washing my hands.
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I work in a hospital and have no problems washing my hands... But I do take off the watch to take a shower.
You can't wear it in the shower, because as others have stated the screen goes ape-sh*t...
Same goes with jacuzzi or probably pool...
My Gear 2 had the option of only waking the screen by pushing the button, but 360 doesn't have that option yet
Wore my gear 2 in the shower all the time and they are rated the same. I never had any issues... I got that thing wet all the time never had an issue. Wore it in the river for about 4 hours and was fine as well. That is until I got tackled and it went floating down the river haha
Also know someone who threw their Galaxy S5 in a hot tub for 30 minutes and it was fine!
I shower with mine all the time. I use WearLocker to lock the screen so it doesn't go crazy. No issues so far.
It is high time there was a consumer protection law requiring all manufacturers provide free repair for water damage of water resistant, waterproof or weather-sealed products, regardless of warranty status unless a) the device is clearly labeled with a maximum depth and the manufacturer can prove it was exceeded, or b) the manufacturer can prove the damage happened prior to immersion. As is, it borders on fraud to advertise a product as capable of withstanding one meter immersion for half an hour, and to then say water damage is not covered under warranty in any circumstances.
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Thanks. I just don't understand if it is really that much harder to make it fully waterproof when so many normal watches are water proof.
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Just so you know, there is absolutely no such thing as a "waterproof" watch. There are only varying levels of resistance. Even watches that are rated to a depth of 100m can't have their buttons pushed while under water; they'll leak. Diving watches also have limits. Ever noticed how much larger electronic devices are when they are certified for diving? Do you really want that on your wrist? There's additional concerns with a device like this as well...as in the discharge of heat. You don't want the processor to overheat just because the whole thing has been insulated against water to a ridiculous degree. And it has a capacitive display. Not so great in water. Not really necessary to further waterproof the thing. (A little bit more would be nice...perhaps IP68?).
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The moto 360 IS NOT RATED FOR SHOWER OR POOL. If you look up what the ip67 rating really is, the device cannot withstand forceful jets of water or extended submersion. It was designed to withstand dust and short immersion or gentle splashes - NOT hot shower jets or extended submersion in the pool. I have seen a lot of misunderstanding on what exactly the device is rated for and would hate to see people trash their watches assuming its "waterproof" because it is not.
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WTF I already took mine scuba diving 30m and it's fine!
The water just drained right out :laugh:
There's just something about electronics and water that has always frightened me.
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It is high time there was a consumer protection law requiring all manufacturers provide free repair for water damage of water resistant, waterproof or weather-sealed products, regardless of warranty status unless a) the device is clearly labeled with a maximum depth and the manufacturer can prove it was exceeded, or b) the manufacturer can prove the damage happened prior to immersion. As is, it borders on fraud to advertise a product as capable of withstanding one meter immersion for half an hour, and to then say water damage is not covered under warranty in any circumstances.
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I strongly disagree. Companies should not have to pay for the lack of common sense on the users' part.
So got my phone 2 days ago and finally decided to take my phone for a swim in my salt water pool. Everything was fine until I dipped my phone underwater for 2 seconds. Phone then started to malfunction like crazy! Power button stopped working, camera would randomly open every few seconds, google on tap would Activate every few seconds. I turned my phone on and off and let it dry for one hour and the phone was still acting crazy. Even while the phone was on the lock screen or on the always on display screen it would go crazy and turn the camera on! I was getting ready to return my phone the next day as defective. I then took the phone and dipped it in regular sink water for a few seconds and now it works fine! Does anyone know if this phone is only resistent to fresh water and not salt water?? Lesson learned, never put this phone near water again. Hope I dont experience permanent damage after only having the phone for a few days!
I am not surprised at the reaction that your phone went through. The only thing seperating your Note's innards and water are some rubber. Even though it's rated at IP68, it speaks nothing of it's ability to withstand what mother nature is capable of. But I recommend that you stop dipping your phone in water for no reason. Unless of course you have a YouTube channel to which I will say I am looking forward to hot nickel ball vs Note 7. I am a sucker for those.
I actually had gone to the lake yesterday and tested this out, of course after watching a youtube of someone else using the phone under water, and can't say that I've experienced any issues. Then again the lake is freshwater, but I'm interested in knowing more about the affects of saltwater on this phone... Probably because the charger port is still exposed?
The ports are sealed which means there shouldn't be water getting into the phone itself to mess with the internals. I don't think salt makes a difference except it might confuse the screen input.
The phone shouldn't be acting in this way if the seals are doing their job. If indeed there is water ingress, go to Samsung for an exchange.
Along those same lines of salt vs fresh water, what about hot vs cold/room temperature? Regular tap water from the sink, the pool, getting sprayed with the hose...all fine. But what about a jacuzzi, a natural hot spring or a hot steamy shower? I took mine in the shower yesterday, but at a lower temp than usual to test it out, it was warm water, and the phone did fine. Nervous to try a full blown hot shower or jacuzzi. Anyone have experience with it in hot water yet?
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Along those same lines of salt vs fresh water, what about hot vs cold/room temperature? Regular tap water from the sink, the pool, getting sprayed with the hose...all fine. But what about a jacuzzi, a natural hot spring or a hot steamy shower? I took mine in the shower yesterday, but at a lower temp than usual to test it out, it was warm water, and the phone did fine. Nervous to try a full blown hot shower or jacuzzi. Anyone have experience with it in hot water yet?
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Interesting because my pool was also Heated and was probably 85 degrees. I wonder if the heat along with the salt water affected the phone. It's weird but once I dipped it in fresh water for a few second everything went back to normal. However, I really think it was the salt for some reason. Must have been something Electrical that made the phone go crazy!
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I am not surprised at the reaction that your phone went through. The only thing seperating your Note's innards and water are some rubber. Even though it's rated at IP68, it speaks nothing of it's ability to withstand what mother nature is capable of. But I recommend that you stop dipping your phone in water for no reason. Unless of course you have a YouTube channel to which I will say I am looking forward to hot nickel ball vs Note 7. I am a sucker for those.
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I literally dipped in for no more than 5 seconds! I didnt even use it underwater. If the phone cannot withstand 5 seconds being submerged in water than it should not be IP68!
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Interesting because my pool was also Heated and was probably 85 degrees. I wonder if the heat along with the salt water affected the phone. It's weird but once I dipped it in fresh water for a few second everything went back to normal. However, I really think it was the salt for some reason. Must have been something Electrical that made the phone go crazy!
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Judging by my warm shower (not sure the temp, but not nearly as hot as usual for myself) I wouldn't think your heated pool would be much different as far as temp goes. I would guess the salt probably had more to do with the erratic behavior and random inputs than the temperature of the heated pool.
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Judging by my warm shower (not sure the temp, but not nearly as hot as usual for myself) I wouldn't think your heated pool would be much different as far as temp goes. I would guess the salt probably had more to do with the erratic behavior and random inputs than the temperature of the heated pool.
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My friend who has the Samsung Galaxy Edge 7 used his phone to take pictures underwater with his phone and didn't have any problems. That's another reason why I'm concerned.
Actually it is the salt waters fault...
Salt water is more conductive than freshwater due to the sodium and chlorine ions within it. This has probably meant the screen has freaked out as it works on conductivity etc.
Even after drying out there was probably a residual coating of salt on the screen and when you washed it in freshwater it was removed and it started being OK again.
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Really interested about people testing the Note 7's water resistance.
This was one of the big selling points for the Note 7 for me, but from what I've seen with Galaxy S7 tests and Note 7 tests, it still seems like a risk using your phone in water. I think I'll wait until at least next year before testing out the water resistance. I'd like to get some use out of my new $950 phone before I intentionally submerge and it blows up or something.
Do NOT put the phone in saltwater. That IP68 certification is for freshwater. The saltwater was definitely the problem. I've heard Samsung will not cover the replacement if they find out it has been in saltwater.
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My friend who has the Samsung Galaxy Edge 7 used his phone to take pictures underwater with his phone and didn't have any problems. That's another reason why I'm concerned.
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Unless your friend has a salt water pool, or was in yours, I wouldn't be concerned about it. I would assume the ocean would have the same type of effect on the phone unfortunately. In regular water circumstances it should be fine, as I've experienced so far. I'm just curious about how the hotter end of the spectrum effects the phone.
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Well seems we have our answers about salt water
salt water conducts electricity better than sweet water.
in fact, you should be fine dipping an open non-WR device in perfectly clean water as it doesn't conduct electricity at all(not easy to find)
water resistance with this phone refers to it's capability of keeping the water away from the internals, which it does well enough(i read somewhere the rating means at least 30 minutes at 1 meter depth)
your phone wasn't affected by water on the inside, but traces of highly conductive salt water on the screen's surface which mimicked tapping from your fingers.
you should definitely avoid "extreme" temperatures (freezing or hot water) as these will cause both the casing and the sealing material to change shape a bit which can create gaps.
and also avoid soap, as it weakens the water's surface tension allowing it to leak through smaller gaps.
I think Samsung should at the very least tell people not to use the phone in Salt Water in it's Ads!!! Alot of the answers in this thread make sense and it seems that it's not a good idea to use these Samsungs in salt water....
I went to the beach yesterday...i didnt even go in the water with the phone (too cold) when i was driving home I had a warning about my charge port having water.
Interesting.
Good info about no salt water... glad I didnt trat it the waves.....phew!
It's in the manual: no salt water, no washing with soap etc...
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See this guy putting his note 7 into coca cola flor 11hours
Phone do it great
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Your best bet is to treat this water resistance as a precaution. Yes, Samsung even uses shows the s7 series (includes the note) as being able to handle taking pictures underwater. I am sure this is the case, but the warranty for this phone VERY SPECIFICALLY says that if the water resistance fails, they are not responsible. There is even liquid damage indicators in the sim slot. So, again, this will be at your own risk.
Also, salt is more conductive, etc, as everyone has already said. What is more important, and an effect that can't be washed off with freshwater, is the corrosive nature of salt on electronics, and rubber. The salt, overtime, will eat away at a water sealing gasket. If any salt gets into the sealed portion of the phone....game over.
I owned a S7 for 2 weeks, before returning it and getting an s7 edge (I now have the note 7). I was talking on the phone when I got drenched by a drunk buddy with a hose. Guess what? The LDI did not trip, and there was no signs of water damage. The phone worked fine...but the mic never worked again, for the remaining week I owned the phone. I even told the store I returned it to, and they were nice enough to take the phone back anyway. But if the mic malfunction was the result of the water exposure, and I assume it is, Samsung would not have been obligated to fix it for free.
I take advantage of the water resistance, but I don't flirt with it either.
Now I'm nervous that I somehow did some permanent damage to my phone. Seems to be working fine right now with no issues whatsoever. Speaker seems to be working fine. Anyone know other possible permanent damage to the phone I should be on the lookout for to determine if I should return it during the warranty period?
Since I have to return it anyway it thought I would give it a go. It takes FANTASTIC pictures underwater! Use the volume keys as the shutter button. It focused perfectly and is really quick.
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You can't post that and not post the underwater photos!
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This will save me from buying an underwater housing for my DSLR!
I just wiped it down after. Incredible. I'm amazed they dont advertise this capability.
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A Barracuda took off with mine!
Dude! That's is animal cruelty! what if it melts down on its mouth?
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it is also an oportunity for other tests, scratch tests, I am going to test the liquid protector
It's bad. One of mine is all scratched up from vibrating face down.
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Since I have to return it anyway it thought I would give it a go. It takes FANTASTIC pictures underwater! Use the volume keys as the shutter button. It focused perfectly and is really quick.
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Damn good idea im goin to dominican on 23rd for a week perhaps i should take full use of this lol
Case report #36 - phone/ battery explodes while taking pics underwater.
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Since I have to return it anyway it thought I would give it a go. It takes FANTASTIC pictures underwater! Use the volume keys as the shutter button. It focused perfectly and is really quick.
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You know that they refurbish recalled units right? So you are advocating water damage to your current unit because you know that you will get a brand new one? This is vandalism!
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A Barracuda took off with mine!
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Dude! That's is animal cruelty! what if it melts down on its mouth?
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Deep fried barracuda!
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You know that they refurbish recalled units right? So you are advocating water damage to your current unit because you know that you will get a brand new one? This is vandalism!
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So I have to take extra care of MY device because someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it? It's mine until Samsung gives me a new one, so I can do whatever I want with it. Period.
Also, you can take underwater photos without problem. Guys it's IP68 certified, it means that it can get underwater more than 30 minutes. If you dry it as soon as you leave it out of water, there's no damage.
Yes, device is absolutely fine
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galaxynote2 said:
So I have to take extra care of MY device because someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it? It's mine until Samsung gives me a new one, so I can do whatever I want with it. Period.
Also, you can take underwater photos without problem. Guys it's IP68 certified, it means that it can get underwater more than 30 minutes. If you dry it as soon as you leave it out of water, there's no damage.
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1) "So I have to take extra care" - no, just don't damage to the thing with water.
2) "MY device" - no, your old device has been recalled, you will be getting a brand new one. The current one is the old recalled one, not yours.
3) "someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it" - no... Someone might be you, getting back your refurbished device.
4) Do you really not understand how recalls work? They don't just throw away old, recalled devices...
You are truly an idiot if you are asking to damage recall units with water!
Lol it would be funny if they just change the battery and send the old ones back .
nabbed said:
1) "So I have to take extra care" - no, just don't damage to the thing with water.
2) "MY device" - no, your old device has been recalled, you will be getting a brand new one. The current one is the old recalled one, not yours.
3) "someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it" - no... Someone might be you, getting back your refurbished device.
4) Do you really not understand how recalls work? They don't just throw away old, recalled devices...
You are truly an idiot if you are asking to damage recall units with water!
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I'ts quite hard to understand your english, hence why I don't really get your point. As I said before, as long as you dry your device after submerging it and it's not salted water, there's no damage. I know how recalls work. Usually you get the same device/car/whatever you're recalling but fixed. Since this device is sealed and you can't replace the battery without dissasembling it, they give you a brand new one free of charge instead of fixing your actual device. Also, since the recall is optative, your device is still yours even if Samsung asks you to exchange it for a new one. The affected devices are dissasembled to use parts of it and/or go through a quality test to see if the device gets accepted to be refurbished. Does it have a scratch? Is it water damaged? Is it dented or shattered? Dumped. That's it. Samsung does not sell refurbished devices by themselves, usually a third party company offers a refurbished, no-warranty version for a discount. In the last statement Samsung says that they're commited to bring us 100% quality devices, hence why a water damaged refurbished device is not even a chance for them.
nabbed said:
1) "So I have to take extra care" - no, just don't damage to the thing with water.
2) "MY device" - no, your old device has been recalled, you will be getting a brand new one. The current one is the old recalled one, not yours.
3) "someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it" - no... Someone might be you, getting back your refurbished device.
4) Do you really not understand how recalls work? They don't just throw away old, recalled devices...
You are truly an idiot if you are asking to damage recall units with water!
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Yes... but the note 7 is waterproof for 30 mins to 1.5m..
so therefore he aint gonna water damage his phone...
galaxynote2 said:
I'ts quite hard to understand your english, hence why I don't really get your point. As I said before, as long as you dry your device after submerging it and it's not salted water, there's no damage. I know how recalls work. Usually you get the same device/car/whatever you're recalling but fixed. Since this device is sealed and you can't replace the battery without dissasembling it, they give you a brand new one free of charge instead of fixing your actual device. Also, since the recall is optative, your device is still yours even if Samsung asks you to exchange it for a new one. The affected devices are dissasembled to use parts of it and/or go through a quality test to see if the device gets accepted to be refurbished. Does it have a scratch? Is it water damaged? Is it dented or shattered? Dumped. That's it. Samsung does not sell refurbished devices by themselves, usually a third party company offers a refurbished, no-warranty version for a discount. In the last statement Samsung says that they're commited to bring us 100% quality devices, hence why a water damaged refurbished device is not even a chance for them.
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You clearly understand zero about water resistance nor the IP rating system. I am too tired to bother to write about it so do what you like with the mobile.
Ryland
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VWnut89 said:
Yes... but the note 7 is waterproof for 30 mins to 1.5m..
so therefore he aint gonna water damage his phone...
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Its not "Water proof" The mobile has a certain specific water resistance. Please don't think you can take your mobile to depths of 1,5M and it will not be compromised. Depth is only a small part of the water resistance rating. Pressure is the major part. You can gently immerse your mobile in still clean water for 30 mins up to a depth of 1.5M. IF, however, you subject said mobile to movement, violent movement, such as swimming or diving in the pool then water may be forced due to pressure into the mobile even at 2" depth!
The way to look at the mobile water resistance is to accept that if you get it wet in the rain or use it with wet hands it may be fine but they are not underwater devices by any means and are not sold as underwater cameras, such cameras cost a fortune and are highly specialised.
Water 'pressure' is the deciding factor in a water resistant mobile. Active high pressures even in a few inches of water will cause a failure of those seals.
A test for you. Stand at the side of your pool and jump spreading your legs and taking your arms above your head, see how many you can manage in 20 seconds. Now enter your pool up to neck depth and do the same exercise. It feels like you have 10kg weights strapped on your arms and legs.....that feeling of added weight is water pressure.
Now imagine the pressure your mobile would be under if you repeated said exercise while holding your mobile. :highfive:
Hope you can understand my poor attempt at explaining this?
Ryland
PS, WHY would one desire to take a mobile phone underwater to take photos in a swimming pool in any case? The sea, okay I get it even though the salt water would eventually damage those seals as will the chemicals in a swimming pool. Read the owners manual. Its very clear on this matter.
Ryland Johnson said:
You clearly understand zero about water resistance nor the IP rating system. I am too tired to bother to write about it so do what you like with the mobile.
Ryland
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Its not "Water proof" The mobile has a certain specific water resistance. Please don't think you can take your mobile to depths of 1,5M and it will not be compromised. Depth is only a small part of the water resistance rating. Pressure is the major part. You can gently immerse your mobile in still clean water for 30 mins up to a depth of 1.5M. IF, however, you subject said mobile to movement, violent movement, such as swimming or diving in the pool then water may be forced due to pressure into the mobile even at 2" depth!
The way to look at the mobile water resistance is to accept that if you get it wet in the rain or use it with wet hands it may be fine but they are not underwater devices by any means and are not sold as underwater cameras, such cameras cost a fortune and are highly specialised.
Water 'pressure' is the deciding factor in a water resistant mobile. Active high pressures even in a few inches of water will cause a failure of those seals.
A test for you. Stand at the side of your pool and jump spreading your legs and taking your arms above your head, see how many you can manage in 20 seconds. Now enter your pool up to neck depth and do the same exercise. It feels like you have 10kg weights strapped on your arms and legs.....that feeling of added weight is water pressure.
Now imagine the pressure your mobile would be under if you repeated said exercise while holding your mobile. :highfive:
Hope you can understand my poor attempt at explaining this?
Ryland
PS, WHY would one desire to take a mobile phone underwater to take photos in a swimming pool in any case? The sea, okay I get it even though the salt water would eventually damage those seals as will the chemicals in a swimming pool. Read the owners manual. Its very clear on this matter.
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Yea true it does depend on what he means by underwater photos. I
If hes on about diving then yes that will damage the phone, especially in salt water. But If He just gently placed his phone under the surface of the water in a pool and took a photo I'm sure it would survive fine.