Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
I haven't held a g3 yet but its build looks a lot like the galaxy line of phones and the only things they added to the s5 to make it water resistant is a small bead of something on the lid that acts like weather stripping and a water tight lid for the usb 3 slot. Just add a bead of caulking to the g3 lid and buy a case with a usb cover. I bet you would be just as water resistant as any phone that is right out of box.
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
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I didn't even think about the speakers
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That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
Edit: the link said g watch but it was the G3 my mistake.
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Well the guy who made the video said the speaker and in call microphone still works perfectly even after a day so I reckon this phone has some level of ip rating.
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
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True.. I think I would be hesitant to even try this using the z2 or g5 both of which are officially waterproof/resistant.. I damaged my s3 when I accidentally dropped that in the toilet lol the speaker stopped working and the screen would go blank every now and then. So its nice to know the g3 may survive if accidentally drop in a puddle
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Battery dropped to 19% after 2 hours. Couldn't tell what it started at but looked pretty full.
I wouldn't try it with my G3, it seems to be fake.
Even the Z2 is not covered by the guarantee if it fail due to water, so....
"Don't try at home!"
Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Was about to say this. It's the ions (minerals) in water that make it more conductive and short your devices. It's why you can submerge PC's in super clean oil for cooling and still have them work. Don't ever submerge your phone if avoidable.
People are idiots.
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yes it is
Unfortunately and as gross as this sounds...I dropped mine in the toilet. It was submerged for atleast 10 seconds before i realized. Dont ask. Just make sure you put it fully in your pocket before standing. After a full sanitizing...and I mean full...it still works fine. No issuses at all. Never turned off...never flickered...
Although I do have an Otterbox on it. That probably helped.
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That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
Well.. I have seen videos of the submergence testing on the G3 and it coming out okay from it. But if it actually were true manufacturers would jump to label & sell it as it makes a great marketing point.
But LG didn't, and they must have a reason for it. That's why I wouldn't go too careless with my phone.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
It is not water resistant. Never been advertised as . don't spread ridiculous info mate !!!
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
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The something's weird, because the video I saw when clicking on that link very clearly shows a G3 dunked in a glass bowl full of water. Not a Gwatch in sight.
I can say that my phone survived after being in a my swimming trunks for 1 hour before I realized I jumped in the pool while it was still in my pocket. I didnt realized that I had swam with it until after I got out. The phone was dead, but then I immediately removed the battery cover and battery. After shaking the water out a bit, pushing the water out through the usb and phone jack holes, I then let it dry out in the sun while I reluctantly tried not to let it ruin my vacation.
Later on that night I used a blow dryer to blow warm air into any and all holes I could see in the phone case. Then I put in a spare battery and the phone started right up! Granted the lower half of my screen had some moisture in it. I can tell because the screen was really bright there. So I turned the phone off, pulled the battery and started blow drying a bit more. After restarting, i noticed the moisture in the screen was less.
A few days later I would say my phone is fully recovered. Speakers work fine, microphone, bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc. I am semi surprised, but not so much because of the lack of moving parts in the phone. for instance, my ipod classic with a hard drive never recovered.
The only thing that I do not think has fully recovered is the battery that was submerged. this battery does not seem to hold a charge as good as it used to. but thats fine... as long as I didnt have to replace my phone. Luckily I had the spare battery already.
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How can I tell if my warranty is going to be turned down for water damage? I have never had it in the water before, but the sticker on the back has the red crosses it.
I'm pretty sure that circle goes all dark red if you get water on it
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I'm pretty sure that circle goes all dark red if you get water on it
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You are right. the sticker will go all red or all pink depending on who made it. its suppose to have the X's in it.
sorry, didn't notice I posted that in the Dev forum...thanks for moving.
Wouldn't you know if you get your phone wet? I think you already know the answer to your question here I mean tray now.
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In the retail stores we typically don't go by the liquid indicators because frequently they're inaccurate. We usually look for signs of corrosion, condensation or just plain liquid in the device.
A good way to dry your device out is to put it in a sealed ziplock bag with some rice...it works! Revived my girlfriend's iPhone and camera after both became submerged when a water bottle broke in her purse.
The "sticker" is the same litmus paper you use in chemistry- it changes colors with the presence of moisture. When I worked for a regional wireless carrier in my area and someone came in for a warranty replacement, that was the first thing we checked. There are usually 2; one in/around the battery compartment and one on the battery itself. I've also noticed lately some manufacturers put them under the phones housing. I've seen them change just from having your phone in the bathroom when you take a shower. Also, if it gets wet but all seems well, you're not in the clear yet. Sometimes it'll be ok at first but will eventually creep through the phone and corrode terminals/connections. Hope this helps. Its against my religion to use paragraphs.
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Aren't most insurance things covering everything except lost or stolen phones?
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The "sticker" is the same litmus paper you use in chemistry- it changes colors with the presence of moisture. When I worked for a regional wireless carrier in my area and someone came in for a warranty replacement, that was the first thing we checked. There are usually 2; one in/around the battery compartment and one on the battery itself. I've also noticed lately some manufacturers put them under the phones housing. I've seen them change just from having your phone in the bathroom when you take a shower. Also, if it gets wet but all seems well, you're not in the clear yet. Sometimes it'll be ok at first but will eventually creep through the phone and corrode terminals/connections. Hope this helps. Its against my religion to use paragraphs.
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The iPhone 3 is notorious for being overly sensitive to humidity; simply having your phone on you while you're sweating can get the sensor wet, as can having it in a humid environment such as a steamy bathroom. I haven't heard of anything quite this bad with other manufacturers, but the locations of the moisture indicators was also suboptimal; of the 4(?) in the phone, one is inside the headphone jack, while the other is next to the charging port.
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Aren't most insurance things covering everything except lost or stolen phones?
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Well...the thing about insurance is they want to pay out as little as possible. I've heard of some mobile insurance companies not covering moisture damage. Make sure you read the terms of coverage carefully before you start paying for something that may not help you at all.
Just found out about this entire device waterproof coating called Liquipel. Looks pretty nice, what do you guys think? Worth it? Here are a couple videos where they demonstrate:
The videos are for the iPhone 4s, but they do the GS2 too. Their website has pricing and other info. I'm debating dropping the $60 for the process.
http://www.liquipel.com
This video is amazing! I can't believe that you can completely submerge a phone and it doesn't hurt it. Very cool.
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is it real?
Anyone try this yet?
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Anyone try this yet?
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Seems legit, they were at CES 2012 demonstrating:
They are just starting up so I only found the second video I posted of someone who actually did it and reviewed it.
The only thing I wonder about is will you be able to remove the battery door to switch batteries. The iphone 4 doesnt have a battery door and I don't see how they would be able to apply this coating unless the battery door is permanently fixed to the device. Any thoughts on this?
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The only thing I wonder about is will you be able to remove the battery door to switch batteries. The iphone 4 doesnt have a battery door and I don't see how they would be able to apply this coating unless the battery door is permanently fixed to the device. Any thoughts on this?
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From what they say, this process coats the entire device inside and out, it doesn't seal any openings or anything preventing water from getting inside the phone. Removing the battery cover wouldn't do anything to compromise the coating. The only thing that would be susceptible to water damage would be the non coated battery you switch in. I'm pretty sure they'd even remove the battery cover and set it beside the phone in the gas chamber to promote better circulation through the phone in the coating process.
Every wire, circuit, etc will essentially have the effect of this finger coated in superhydrophobic powder, and therefore won't rely on any other part of the phone for protection from coming into contact with water:
Snake oil. When water enters the phone and the battery is not immediately removed the components start to degrade and or short out. The coatings in printed circuit board will start to interact with all of the dissimilar metals and electrolysis will eat away the connections. A wet phone is a ticking bomb so to speak.
You might have some success with this product depending how wet the phone got, how long ago, and was the battery removed right away. Then again, you can do the same with denatured alcohol....
I don't think this is made to be water proof, I think it's more of a water resistance, phone use in rain. Minor spill etc.
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This is not water proof. Only water resistant. The coating will also wear away eventually.
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This is not water proof. Only water resistant. The coating will also wear away eventually.
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Maybe on the outside, but the inner components won't be exposed to any touching or rubbing. How would it wear away?
And this is a preventative measure if you drop your phone in water/spill on it, they don't recommend you test it like they do in their demonstration.
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Snake oil. When water enters the phone and the battery is not immediately removed the components start to degrade and or short out. The coatings in printed circuit board will start to interact with all of the dissimilar metals and electrolysis will eat away the connections. A wet phone is a ticking bomb so to speak.
You might have some success with this product depending how wet the phone got, how long ago, and was the battery removed right away. Then again, you can do the same with denatured alcohol....
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But if the water isn't physically touching the components since it's repelled by the coating (see finger video) how would it do all that?
Well this was a video that went around a few months ago, from another company NeverWet. They had a video demonstrating the same with an iPhone but it seems to be gone now, and this was originally posted by the company itself on Youtube. Sounds to me that they probably licensed out their product to this Liquipel company.
They also have a few videos on their site if you look around at their applications. http://goo.gl/DlqsK
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Well this was a video that went around a few months ago, from another company NeverWet. They had a video demonstrating the same with an iPhone but it seems to be gone now, and this was originally posted by the company itself on Youtube. Sounds to me that they probably licensed out their product to this Liquipel company.
They also have a few videos on their site if you look around at their applications. http://goo.gl/DlqsK
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Yeah, I saw that video too. I'm going to buy a can of that stuff when they release it for consumer purchase. There are so many uses I can think of for it
From what I understand there where two companies who where doing this, one of them was liquipel and the other was HzO (or something like that) liquipel said that they well do it on already existing devices while HzO had to be done during the manufacture process. Liquipel said their services cost around $60 per device. If I am not mistaken it was covered by geekbeat.tv
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There is another company that is doing this, P2i. Applied at the end of the manufacturing process and already commercial according to the website... Coating is applied on the nanoscale and protects all compontents from water damage.
The canned stuff has been around for years. I remember picking up a can of this back in high school and coating all my baseball caps with it.
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The canned stuff has been around for years. I remember picking up a can of this back in high school and coating all my baseball caps with it.
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Do you remember what you used? Would it work on repelling liquids from shoes?
What I found:
http://www.outdoorpros.com/Prod/Nikwax-572-Nikwax-Tx-Direct-Spray-On-16-9-Oz/35514
I heard it doesn't last for ****!
Within a few months its completely gone, sun,wind and typical oils from your face eventually make it useless.
not 100% sure though.
I'm also sick of every single example or movie, is always showing a damn Iphone..
Yes more people own an iphone than any other single device, but they still only make up 28% of the market..
6 out of 10 people with cell phones have android
3 out of 10 people with cell phones have Iphones
Seriously... lol
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Maybe on the outside, but the inner components won't be exposed to any touching or rubbing. How would it wear away?
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Oxidation
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fastfed said:
I heard it doesn't last for ****!
Within a few months its completely gone, sun,wind and typical oils from your face eventually make it useless.
not 100% sure though.
I'm also sick of every single example or movie, is always showing a damn Iphone..
Yes more people own an iphone than any other single device, but they still only make up 28% of the market..
6 out of 10 people with cell phones have android
3 out of 10 people with cell phones have Iphones
Seriously... lol
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After reading this, I laughed so hard I spilled my bowl of cheerios and milk started spewing out my nose!
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I've been wondering for a while. I dropped my precious SL on tiles, carpets, roads from an average height of about a meter. But nothing has happened to the phone. Nothing. Has anyone ever dropped their phone, like, a lot?
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A few times
I've dropped my Xperia S a few times on the floor from a height of around 1.5 mts, but I've a Si Gel cover for better protection and it never switched off like other phones do when they fall.
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I've dropped my Xperia S a few times on the floor from a height of around 1.5 mts, but I've a Si Gel cover for better protection and it never switched off like other phones do when they fall.
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Its more durable than a Nokia
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Its more durable than a Nokia
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Yeah, it doesn't break as a coconut
Even Xperia U is strong enough to take the impact of falling from a 100kmph speeding bike which isn't possible with Nokia
I've dropped it at least five times from elbow height without any kind of protection. Even dropped it halfway down the stairs
The corners are a bit rough now but the screen is perfect.
I thought this was normal until my gf dropped her Gorilla Glass protected S3 from the same height and the screen actually cracked by the impact (it didn't fall face down).
I realize now that Sony's build quality is much superior
Never,i have it attached to my neck. Impossible to fall.
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lost my counts as my son always drop it. still, it never fails me. Thank you Sony for making such a durable device.
I had a few drops from table height, once pretty violently when my girlfriend yanked at the charging cable (by accident of course). It was never enough to really damage the screen, but my screen has had a small crack ever since I bought it. I got it second hand (way back in september 2012 already) and I though the crack was just a hair under the screen protector, but after removing the protector a few months later it turned out to be a small crack.
What is more damaged is the USB cover, it got really loose after a year or so and a few weeks ago I just removed it. The USB port is very ugly now, but at least I don't have that cover flapping around anymore.
Made for destruction
My kid constantly finds and try to destroy it. He have been trying to eat it, used it as a trowing toy and i have it without rubber protection.
Still works fine. Well designed phone :good:
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What is more damaged is the USB cover, it got really loose after a year or so and a few weeks ago I just removed it. The USB port is very ugly now, but at least I don't have that cover flapping around anymore.
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The USB flap gets loose because there's an inner soft plastic part which is glued to the outer flap and it wears out over time...
I glued them back together using a strong adhesive and its good now, obviously not as good as the very rarely used HDMI flap, but its OK...
The only real problem I've had with this phone is the really low in-call volume...
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Forgot to mention, the part below the illumination strip isn't very strong though... I know a guy who dropped his SL only once and that part was cracked pretty bad... luckily its not of much use
I have dropped so many times. I think more than 20 times L.O.L but all work fine :good:
Countless with my xperia S! There is one time i dropped it from chest height, and i tried to catch it, but push it downward instead. The phone screen landed on floor. My bro heard the impact came to see. I closed my eyes and pick it up. When i open my eyes, the screen.......not even a scratch and totally fine. It didn't even turn off or the battery fall off like nokia did xD
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I dropped it more than 100 times, many times it landed on the screen but screen never broke. Now when i drop it i'm not even worried because i know nothing damaged .
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I sometimes drop it, then walk around like nothing happened, and cone back to pick it up. In front of everyone
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Guys!! My darling xperia S slipped from my hands and cradhed on the ground so violently it desintegrated ... Hopefully it was only a nightmare. When I woke up he was alive on my desk my swag is 80% my Xperia S and 20% my long hairy moustache. I can t even thing on losing my Xperia
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I drop my xperia s very often. In the beginning I was scared it might be broken, but now I know better. This phone is indestructible!
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when i was using my XS i drop it countless times already, there was a time that when i was walking and then i dropped my XS i stepped on it and drag it, luckily the back is at the bottom and the camera was not affected
Twice... Once really bad but the Silicone cover saved it..from about. 4.5ft
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The USB flap gets loose because there's an inner soft plastic part which is glued to the outer flap and it wears out over time...
I glued them back together using a strong adhesive and its good now, obviously not as good as the very rarely used HDMI flap, but its OK...
The only real problem I've had with this phone is the really low in-call volume...
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Forgot to mention, the part below the illumination strip isn't very strong though... I know a guy who dropped his SL only once and that part was cracked pretty bad... luckily its not of much use
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I tried gluing it back with a pretty strong adhesive, but it didn't stick (adhesive was pretty old though) and it only made the soft plastic harder. The next phone I'm getting will ideally have wireless charging so I don't have to open that USB flap so often and it would also be nice if it were waterproof, I'm hoping the next Nexus will be waterproof.
Did anyone drop a Xperia S in water and still manage to save it?
Oh and true the in-call volume is so low, I have to ask people to say things again (looks really unprofessional when looking for a job, luckily I still managed to get one ) and you can forget about calling from a busy street (I use my headphones in that case). It's too bad you can't test this when buying a new phone, and review sites seem to ignore call quality nowadays..
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I tried gluing it back with a pretty strong adhesive, but it didn't stick (adhesive was pretty old though) and it only made the soft plastic harder. The next phone I'm getting will ideally have wireless charging so I don't have to open that USB flap so often and it would also be nice if it were waterproof, I'm hoping the next Nexus will be waterproof.
Did anyone drop a Xperia S in water and still manage to save it?
Oh and true the in-call volume is so low, I have to ask people to say things again (looks really unprofessional when looking for a job, luckily I still managed to get one ) and you can forget about calling from a busy street (I use my headphones in that case). It's too bad you can't test this when buying a new phone, and review sites seem to ignore call quality nowadays..
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I didn't drop it in water, but my friend did. That genious dropped his in a tub of water, took it out and started using it. It turned off and started to work normally after 2 days.
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Someone submerged the HTC One M8 in water for about 90 minutes, it came out just fine. Is this phone waterproof? I haven't seen any specs saying it is, but apparently it's at least water-resistant. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
Thanks to MrMario8 and fernando sor, they posted this video in another thread that got locked.
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Someone submerged the HTC One M8 in water for about 90 minutes, it came out just fine. Is this phone waterproof? I haven't seen any specs saying it is, but apparently it's at least water-resistant. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
Thanks to MrMario8 and fernando sor, they posted this video in another thread that got locked.
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I'm just wondering why the clock background kept changing from black to clear and back.
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I'm just wondering why the clock background kept changing from black to clear and back.
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It didn't. It did it once - 6PM hit and it went black. I noticed the music player popped up on the screen though.
Obviously I wouldn't go dropping my phone in water to test this but it looks like HTC did manage to isolate the components enough to make it water resistant. I wonder why they didn't advertise it? Probably because of the lack of flaps I guess.
This would likely cause damage to the USB and headphone jack over time but its a cool test of the build quality for sure.
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This would likely cause damage to the USB and headphone jack over time but its a cool test of the build quality for sure.
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It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.
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It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.
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Yeah I'm happy they improved the already exceptional build quality. The M7 survived the most ridiculous torture test I've seen CNET administer while the S4 failed miserably. HTC has a lot more experience with phones than anyone else but Nokia really so it shouldn't be a surprise that they pulled this off but its still nice to see. And they did it without flaps, that's the real big FU to Sony
The review by CNET suggests this is not true.
The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.
http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-one-m8/
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The review by CNET suggests this is not true.
The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.
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nobody is claiming this phone was made to be water resistant. However, spending 1hr and 30 mins in water indicates you dont have to worry about splasehes/rain/ etc.. dont take it diving and be careless
Is the removable battery even a big deal now days? Who keep their phone for more than 2 years now anyway?
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I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.
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I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.
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the ports arent covered. they will wear out and get ruined. so no its not water resistant
Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
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They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.
Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.
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Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.
Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.
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And not even all ports.. The Sony Z ultra gpe doesn't have a cover over the headphone jack. My friend who had the Z was surprised because he said the Z had a cover over the headphone jack.
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colts187 said:
They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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Yes I agree that Sony got it right with the z2. However it did take a couple of generations for them to get it right. External speakers even on the z1 is not very good. Reviewers always pointed to the waterproofing as the cause of the low speaker volume.
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jonny68 said:
Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
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Not sure if you worded that out of order - but the whole idea of the rice, is to do it BEFORE attempting to turn it on. If you tried to turn it on before letting it sit a few days in rice, thats the point where the damage is done. (Turning it on still moist)
Watch carefully through the video, I have to question its authenticity.
If you notice, there are bubbles coming from the headphone jack. At multiple times the quantity and speed of these increase, often when the camera comes back on after altering it's position. I know the camera was said to run out of storage space etc, however the bubbles suggests that the phone has been removed and replaced.
thats with the bubbles i also saw - and when bubbles can go outside normally water can go inside too.
aluminium and water also not best friends. in my eyes the video is fake or manipulated.
My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.
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My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.
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Maybe build quality varies. I spilled a whole glass on it and absolutely nothing happened. Screen, and also the speakers, works great as before. I tested them immediately. Maybe I was just lucky. But still, a whole glass, and I saw how the water filled every speaker hole.
So got my phone 2 days ago and finally decided to take my phone for a swim in my salt water pool. Everything was fine until I dipped my phone underwater for 2 seconds. Phone then started to malfunction like crazy! Power button stopped working, camera would randomly open every few seconds, google on tap would Activate every few seconds. I turned my phone on and off and let it dry for one hour and the phone was still acting crazy. Even while the phone was on the lock screen or on the always on display screen it would go crazy and turn the camera on! I was getting ready to return my phone the next day as defective. I then took the phone and dipped it in regular sink water for a few seconds and now it works fine! Does anyone know if this phone is only resistent to fresh water and not salt water?? Lesson learned, never put this phone near water again. Hope I dont experience permanent damage after only having the phone for a few days!
I am not surprised at the reaction that your phone went through. The only thing seperating your Note's innards and water are some rubber. Even though it's rated at IP68, it speaks nothing of it's ability to withstand what mother nature is capable of. But I recommend that you stop dipping your phone in water for no reason. Unless of course you have a YouTube channel to which I will say I am looking forward to hot nickel ball vs Note 7. I am a sucker for those.
I actually had gone to the lake yesterday and tested this out, of course after watching a youtube of someone else using the phone under water, and can't say that I've experienced any issues. Then again the lake is freshwater, but I'm interested in knowing more about the affects of saltwater on this phone... Probably because the charger port is still exposed?
The ports are sealed which means there shouldn't be water getting into the phone itself to mess with the internals. I don't think salt makes a difference except it might confuse the screen input.
The phone shouldn't be acting in this way if the seals are doing their job. If indeed there is water ingress, go to Samsung for an exchange.
Along those same lines of salt vs fresh water, what about hot vs cold/room temperature? Regular tap water from the sink, the pool, getting sprayed with the hose...all fine. But what about a jacuzzi, a natural hot spring or a hot steamy shower? I took mine in the shower yesterday, but at a lower temp than usual to test it out, it was warm water, and the phone did fine. Nervous to try a full blown hot shower or jacuzzi. Anyone have experience with it in hot water yet?
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Along those same lines of salt vs fresh water, what about hot vs cold/room temperature? Regular tap water from the sink, the pool, getting sprayed with the hose...all fine. But what about a jacuzzi, a natural hot spring or a hot steamy shower? I took mine in the shower yesterday, but at a lower temp than usual to test it out, it was warm water, and the phone did fine. Nervous to try a full blown hot shower or jacuzzi. Anyone have experience with it in hot water yet?
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Interesting because my pool was also Heated and was probably 85 degrees. I wonder if the heat along with the salt water affected the phone. It's weird but once I dipped it in fresh water for a few second everything went back to normal. However, I really think it was the salt for some reason. Must have been something Electrical that made the phone go crazy!
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I am not surprised at the reaction that your phone went through. The only thing seperating your Note's innards and water are some rubber. Even though it's rated at IP68, it speaks nothing of it's ability to withstand what mother nature is capable of. But I recommend that you stop dipping your phone in water for no reason. Unless of course you have a YouTube channel to which I will say I am looking forward to hot nickel ball vs Note 7. I am a sucker for those.
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I literally dipped in for no more than 5 seconds! I didnt even use it underwater. If the phone cannot withstand 5 seconds being submerged in water than it should not be IP68!
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Interesting because my pool was also Heated and was probably 85 degrees. I wonder if the heat along with the salt water affected the phone. It's weird but once I dipped it in fresh water for a few second everything went back to normal. However, I really think it was the salt for some reason. Must have been something Electrical that made the phone go crazy!
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Judging by my warm shower (not sure the temp, but not nearly as hot as usual for myself) I wouldn't think your heated pool would be much different as far as temp goes. I would guess the salt probably had more to do with the erratic behavior and random inputs than the temperature of the heated pool.
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Judging by my warm shower (not sure the temp, but not nearly as hot as usual for myself) I wouldn't think your heated pool would be much different as far as temp goes. I would guess the salt probably had more to do with the erratic behavior and random inputs than the temperature of the heated pool.
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My friend who has the Samsung Galaxy Edge 7 used his phone to take pictures underwater with his phone and didn't have any problems. That's another reason why I'm concerned.
Actually it is the salt waters fault...
Salt water is more conductive than freshwater due to the sodium and chlorine ions within it. This has probably meant the screen has freaked out as it works on conductivity etc.
Even after drying out there was probably a residual coating of salt on the screen and when you washed it in freshwater it was removed and it started being OK again.
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Really interested about people testing the Note 7's water resistance.
This was one of the big selling points for the Note 7 for me, but from what I've seen with Galaxy S7 tests and Note 7 tests, it still seems like a risk using your phone in water. I think I'll wait until at least next year before testing out the water resistance. I'd like to get some use out of my new $950 phone before I intentionally submerge and it blows up or something.
Do NOT put the phone in saltwater. That IP68 certification is for freshwater. The saltwater was definitely the problem. I've heard Samsung will not cover the replacement if they find out it has been in saltwater.
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My friend who has the Samsung Galaxy Edge 7 used his phone to take pictures underwater with his phone and didn't have any problems. That's another reason why I'm concerned.
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Unless your friend has a salt water pool, or was in yours, I wouldn't be concerned about it. I would assume the ocean would have the same type of effect on the phone unfortunately. In regular water circumstances it should be fine, as I've experienced so far. I'm just curious about how the hotter end of the spectrum effects the phone.
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Well seems we have our answers about salt water
salt water conducts electricity better than sweet water.
in fact, you should be fine dipping an open non-WR device in perfectly clean water as it doesn't conduct electricity at all(not easy to find)
water resistance with this phone refers to it's capability of keeping the water away from the internals, which it does well enough(i read somewhere the rating means at least 30 minutes at 1 meter depth)
your phone wasn't affected by water on the inside, but traces of highly conductive salt water on the screen's surface which mimicked tapping from your fingers.
you should definitely avoid "extreme" temperatures (freezing or hot water) as these will cause both the casing and the sealing material to change shape a bit which can create gaps.
and also avoid soap, as it weakens the water's surface tension allowing it to leak through smaller gaps.
I think Samsung should at the very least tell people not to use the phone in Salt Water in it's Ads!!! Alot of the answers in this thread make sense and it seems that it's not a good idea to use these Samsungs in salt water....
I went to the beach yesterday...i didnt even go in the water with the phone (too cold) when i was driving home I had a warning about my charge port having water.
Interesting.
Good info about no salt water... glad I didnt trat it the waves.....phew!
It's in the manual: no salt water, no washing with soap etc...
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See this guy putting his note 7 into coca cola flor 11hours
Phone do it great
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Your best bet is to treat this water resistance as a precaution. Yes, Samsung even uses shows the s7 series (includes the note) as being able to handle taking pictures underwater. I am sure this is the case, but the warranty for this phone VERY SPECIFICALLY says that if the water resistance fails, they are not responsible. There is even liquid damage indicators in the sim slot. So, again, this will be at your own risk.
Also, salt is more conductive, etc, as everyone has already said. What is more important, and an effect that can't be washed off with freshwater, is the corrosive nature of salt on electronics, and rubber. The salt, overtime, will eat away at a water sealing gasket. If any salt gets into the sealed portion of the phone....game over.
I owned a S7 for 2 weeks, before returning it and getting an s7 edge (I now have the note 7). I was talking on the phone when I got drenched by a drunk buddy with a hose. Guess what? The LDI did not trip, and there was no signs of water damage. The phone worked fine...but the mic never worked again, for the remaining week I owned the phone. I even told the store I returned it to, and they were nice enough to take the phone back anyway. But if the mic malfunction was the result of the water exposure, and I assume it is, Samsung would not have been obligated to fix it for free.
I take advantage of the water resistance, but I don't flirt with it either.
Now I'm nervous that I somehow did some permanent damage to my phone. Seems to be working fine right now with no issues whatsoever. Speaker seems to be working fine. Anyone know other possible permanent damage to the phone I should be on the lookout for to determine if I should return it during the warranty period?