Just found out about this entire device waterproof coating called Liquipel. Looks pretty nice, what do you guys think? Worth it? Here are a couple videos where they demonstrate:
The videos are for the iPhone 4s, but they do the GS2 too. Their website has pricing and other info. I'm debating dropping the $60 for the process.
http://www.liquipel.com
This video is amazing! I can't believe that you can completely submerge a phone and it doesn't hurt it. Very cool.
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is it real?
Anyone try this yet?
jdyowa said:
Anyone try this yet?
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Seems legit, they were at CES 2012 demonstrating:
They are just starting up so I only found the second video I posted of someone who actually did it and reviewed it.
The only thing I wonder about is will you be able to remove the battery door to switch batteries. The iphone 4 doesnt have a battery door and I don't see how they would be able to apply this coating unless the battery door is permanently fixed to the device. Any thoughts on this?
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The only thing I wonder about is will you be able to remove the battery door to switch batteries. The iphone 4 doesnt have a battery door and I don't see how they would be able to apply this coating unless the battery door is permanently fixed to the device. Any thoughts on this?
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From what they say, this process coats the entire device inside and out, it doesn't seal any openings or anything preventing water from getting inside the phone. Removing the battery cover wouldn't do anything to compromise the coating. The only thing that would be susceptible to water damage would be the non coated battery you switch in. I'm pretty sure they'd even remove the battery cover and set it beside the phone in the gas chamber to promote better circulation through the phone in the coating process.
Every wire, circuit, etc will essentially have the effect of this finger coated in superhydrophobic powder, and therefore won't rely on any other part of the phone for protection from coming into contact with water:
Snake oil. When water enters the phone and the battery is not immediately removed the components start to degrade and or short out. The coatings in printed circuit board will start to interact with all of the dissimilar metals and electrolysis will eat away the connections. A wet phone is a ticking bomb so to speak.
You might have some success with this product depending how wet the phone got, how long ago, and was the battery removed right away. Then again, you can do the same with denatured alcohol....
I don't think this is made to be water proof, I think it's more of a water resistance, phone use in rain. Minor spill etc.
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This is not water proof. Only water resistant. The coating will also wear away eventually.
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anomy13 said:
This is not water proof. Only water resistant. The coating will also wear away eventually.
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Maybe on the outside, but the inner components won't be exposed to any touching or rubbing. How would it wear away?
And this is a preventative measure if you drop your phone in water/spill on it, they don't recommend you test it like they do in their demonstration.
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Snake oil. When water enters the phone and the battery is not immediately removed the components start to degrade and or short out. The coatings in printed circuit board will start to interact with all of the dissimilar metals and electrolysis will eat away the connections. A wet phone is a ticking bomb so to speak.
You might have some success with this product depending how wet the phone got, how long ago, and was the battery removed right away. Then again, you can do the same with denatured alcohol....
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But if the water isn't physically touching the components since it's repelled by the coating (see finger video) how would it do all that?
Well this was a video that went around a few months ago, from another company NeverWet. They had a video demonstrating the same with an iPhone but it seems to be gone now, and this was originally posted by the company itself on Youtube. Sounds to me that they probably licensed out their product to this Liquipel company.
They also have a few videos on their site if you look around at their applications. http://goo.gl/DlqsK
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Well this was a video that went around a few months ago, from another company NeverWet. They had a video demonstrating the same with an iPhone but it seems to be gone now, and this was originally posted by the company itself on Youtube. Sounds to me that they probably licensed out their product to this Liquipel company.
They also have a few videos on their site if you look around at their applications. http://goo.gl/DlqsK
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Yeah, I saw that video too. I'm going to buy a can of that stuff when they release it for consumer purchase. There are so many uses I can think of for it
From what I understand there where two companies who where doing this, one of them was liquipel and the other was HzO (or something like that) liquipel said that they well do it on already existing devices while HzO had to be done during the manufacture process. Liquipel said their services cost around $60 per device. If I am not mistaken it was covered by geekbeat.tv
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There is another company that is doing this, P2i. Applied at the end of the manufacturing process and already commercial according to the website... Coating is applied on the nanoscale and protects all compontents from water damage.
The canned stuff has been around for years. I remember picking up a can of this back in high school and coating all my baseball caps with it.
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The canned stuff has been around for years. I remember picking up a can of this back in high school and coating all my baseball caps with it.
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Do you remember what you used? Would it work on repelling liquids from shoes?
What I found:
http://www.outdoorpros.com/Prod/Nikwax-572-Nikwax-Tx-Direct-Spray-On-16-9-Oz/35514
I heard it doesn't last for ****!
Within a few months its completely gone, sun,wind and typical oils from your face eventually make it useless.
not 100% sure though.
I'm also sick of every single example or movie, is always showing a damn Iphone..
Yes more people own an iphone than any other single device, but they still only make up 28% of the market..
6 out of 10 people with cell phones have android
3 out of 10 people with cell phones have Iphones
Seriously... lol
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Maybe on the outside, but the inner components won't be exposed to any touching or rubbing. How would it wear away?
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Oxidation
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I heard it doesn't last for ****!
Within a few months its completely gone, sun,wind and typical oils from your face eventually make it useless.
not 100% sure though.
I'm also sick of every single example or movie, is always showing a damn Iphone..
Yes more people own an iphone than any other single device, but they still only make up 28% of the market..
6 out of 10 people with cell phones have android
3 out of 10 people with cell phones have Iphones
Seriously... lol
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After reading this, I laughed so hard I spilled my bowl of cheerios and milk started spewing out my nose!
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Thoughts on it? Has anybody ever tried it?
http://www.liquipel.com/
Looks cool but I believe you have to ship your device to them to apply it. Can't do that.
dtokarz said:
Looks cool but I believe you have to ship your device to them to apply it. Can't do that.
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Well if you're someone that is going to need this serious of water protection and want it done right, you'll be happy to spend a few days away from your phone to have it done.
I don't personally have a need for this, but I'm sure there are many that do.
The thunderbolt video looked a little iffy, the touchscreen was going crazy and after he pulled it out of the water, it was giving an SD card error.
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The thunderbolt video looked a little iffy, the touchscreen was going crazy and after he pulled it out of the water, it was giving an SD card error.
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The touchscreen going crazy doesn't really mean much...the screen is capacitive, so it would respond to the water just like a finger (since the water would be conducive to the electrical impulses in the piping, his finger, etc...).
The problem with the SDCard is worrying, but I'm not sure why anyone who would *need* this kind of water protection wouldn't just buy a tough phone. I had one when I was on AT&T and I've left it at the bottom of a pool for a day, frozen it in ice, thrown it more times than I could count (I pitched and played left field in college...so it wasn't a short throw), and run it over with cars...it still works perfectly.
Point is, this kind of treatment is kind of meaningless. Anyone that needs it would just buy a phone properly created to sustain that kind of punishment, and anyone that didn't would have no reason to do it.
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The thunderbolt video looked a little iffy, the touchscreen was going crazy and after he pulled it out of the water, it was giving an SD card error.
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The touchscreen is just responding to electrical impulses transfered via the water. Not a big deal.
The error was for the SIM card, not SDcard. Many modern HTC devices put the antennas solely in the back cover, so when you remove it, it has no service except emergency calls.
gnex not supported?
does it even matter which phone you select?
I'm skeptical. If it were possible to waterproof electronics completely using their process, I can't believe that their little company hasn't been snapped up by one of the big manufacturers, who could then release a whole line of waterproof products and make billions on everything from computers to toys.
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I'm skeptical. If it were possible to waterproof electronics completely using their process, I can't believe that their little company hasn't been snapped up by one of the big manufacturers, who could then release a whole line of waterproof products and make billions on everything from computers to toys.
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Most people don't need that much protection.
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Most people don't need that much protection.
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I disagree...having two kids and living in a wet area, if there really was a way to waterproof electronics using a thin coating that would allow complete immersion without damage, I'd be willing to pay a premium for items that are treated in that way, and I bet a lot of other people would, too.
I killed my SE X10 after dropping it in a sink of dishwater, and was pretty devastated by the total loss of the device....I've also had a Nintendo DSi end up in a bathtub and a Game Boy ruined by ending up in the bottom of a swimming bag under wet towels. Waterproofing would rawk, if it existed.
But I'm not sending my Gnex off to be coated and then taking the risk of immersing it to test it out, knowing that the warranty on it is void the instant I drop my precious phone off at the post office...
I'd be interested to see if it actually works. It intrigues me.
So....
I've NEVER dropped any of my phones, ever, as long as I've had cell phones. Well, dropped and it actually hit the ground. I've dropped this damn phone like 4x already, I think partially to do with it being so smooth and "slippery" to the hand.
Anyway, I dropped it once from about 6 feet in the air directly on the screen and NOTHING happened at all (except some very very minor dings to the frame itself) and light scratches to the screen protector. Today, I was trying to pull it out of my pocket at work when it slipped and fell (from about 2 feet from the ground) landing on the right side of the phone. My right hand (phone sits in right pocket) is in a brace due to a stress fracture I received at work, so when it slipped I couldn't catch it. I watched it fall, which was the worst moment ever lol. Since my work pants have slanted pockets, it fell behind me so I couldn't even attempt to put my foot under it to stop the impact.
Anyway, as I picked it up I honestly didn't expect to see anything. I pick it up, turn it over and it looks like there is a piece of hair right along the frame in the shape of a sideways "U". I went to brush it off and realized it had cracked!
It's a very small and almost non noticeable crack JUST before the digitalizer starts but I know it's there so it bothers me. I showed a few guys at work and nobody noticed it until I pointed it out.
Anyway, think its worth looking into getting fixed or just stick it out because it's so minor?
*sorry picture is so crappy, wife has a Lumia 710...camera sucks.
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I've NEVER dropped any of my phones, ever, as long as I've had cell phones. Well, dropped and it actually hit the ground. I've dropped this damn phone like 4x already, I think partially to do with it being so smooth and "slippery" to the hand.
Anyway, I dropped it once from about 6 feet in the air directly on the screen and NOTHING happened at all (except some very very minor dings to the frame itself) and light scratches to the screen protector. Today, I was trying to pull it out of my pocket at work when it slipped and fell (from about 2 feet from the ground) landing on the right side of the phone. My right hand (phone sits in right pocket) is in a brace due to a stress fracture I received at work, so when it slipped I couldn't catch it. I watched it fall, which was the worst moment ever lol. Since my work pants have slanted pockets, it fell behind me so I couldn't even attempt to put my foot under it to stop the impact.
Anyway, as I picked it up I honestly didn't expect to see anything. I pick it up, turn it over and it looks like there is a piece of hair right along the frame in the shape of a sideways "U". I went to brush it off and realized it had cracked! btw i use this case http://www.goballisticcase.com/products/samsung-galaxy-s-3-ballistic-sg-maxx-series-case makes my phone a bit thick but ive dropped it about 15 feet when i was on the roof the other day fixing the window. i pulled it out to check the weather cause it looked like it was going to rain well not rain more like hail. so i checked and instead of putting it in my pocket i missed and i just watched it slide off the shingles. and drop im like nooo its gonna be dead when i go pick it up. not even a scratch
It's a very small and almost non noticeable crack JUST before the digitalizer starts but I know it's there so it bothers me. I showed a few guys at work and nobody noticed it until I pointed it out.
Anyway, think its worth looking into getting fixed or just stick it out because it's so minor?
*sorry picture is so crappy, wife has a Lumia 710...camera sucks.
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id personally get it fixed or fix it myself since only the screen and not the lcd. imagine if you ever drop it again even inches that "u" could probably be the cause of it expanding and cracking all over. well thats my opinion
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the pic was attached to the first post
Dude, that sucks! Never wanted to see that happen to you man.
I have to agree though, if its doable for you, get it fixed. Once compromised like that its just gonna get worse most likely. Even just setting it down or bumping into something while its in your pocket could make it much worse.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Dude, that sucks! Never wanted to see that happen to you man.
I have to agree though, if its doable for you, get it fixed. Once compromised like that its just gonna get worse most likely. Even just setting it down or bumping into something while its in your pocket could make it much worse.
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I would say slap it into a bumper that will cover up most of it. But, you already said you know it's there, so that won't work. So, I guess I'd advise having it fixed.
Sorry to hear that.
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the ghost armor kit would cover that if applied right. I'll take a picture of mine if I can find a camera
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So....
I've NEVER dropped any of my phones, ever, as long as I've had cell phones. Well, dropped and it actually hit the ground. I've dropped this damn phone like 4x already, I think partially to do with it being so smooth and "slippery" to the hand.
Anyway, I dropped it once from about 6 feet in the air directly on the screen and NOTHING happened at all (except some very very minor dings to the frame itself) and light scratches to the screen protector. Today, I was trying to pull it out of my pocket at work when it slipped and fell (from about 2 feet from the ground) landing on the right side of the phone. My right hand (phone sits in right pocket) is in a brace due to a stress fracture I received at work, so when it slipped I couldn't catch it. I watched it fall, which was the worst moment ever lol. Since my work pants have slanted pockets, it fell behind me so I couldn't even attempt to put my foot under it to stop the impact.
Anyway, as I picked it up I honestly didn't expect to see anything. I pick it up, turn it over and it looks like there is a piece of hair right along the frame in the shape of a sideways "U". I went to brush it off and realized it had cracked!
It's a very small and almost non noticeable crack JUST before the digitalizer starts but I know it's there so it bothers me. I showed a few guys at work and nobody noticed it until I pointed it out.
Anyway, think its worth looking into getting fixed or just stick it out because it's so minor?
*sorry picture is so crappy, wife has a Lumia 710...camera sucks.
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Why mine is in an otter box ^-^
But I personally would just throw a case on it to prevent further cracking. Doesn't look too horrible from your picture. But as others already mentioned, it will crack even more easily since it's already started.
That's a known issue with the s 3. The screen is lifted a hair from the bezel. So the bezel bends into the glass at the edge (weakest point in glass) where other devices usually bend over the glass.
But good luck to whatever you decide!
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Yeah it's not bad at all. And remember you can replace just the glass too. But i would wait for it to be more messed up before doing that
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Slap a good case on it and it should be fine for now at least.
Let's just hope that you don't drop it again to further increase the cracking.
An OtterBox Defender Case might be a good idea.
Very bulky, kind of pricey, but it will offer you the protection that you need.
Personally id be worried about further damage as is. Obviously the glass is weakened already, and while it may seem ok to wait until its worse before fixing, i have to disagree as im pretty sure this also makes the digitizer more vulnerable to damage as well.
How often have you seen or heard about devices that had a cracked screen causing the touch capabilities to break as well? One more drop or bump into the corner of a table where that crack is and you may not get anymore response at all.
I just think it potentially could turn into a much more expensive repair if not taken care of soon. Just not sure id personally want to risk it.
Its just my opinion is all.
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Personally id be worried about further damage as is. Obviously the glass is weakened already, and while it may seem ok to wait until its worse before fixing, i have to disagree as im pretty sure this also makes the digitizer more vulnerable to damage as well.
How often have you seen or heard about devices that had a cracked screen causing the touch capabilities to break as well? One more drop or bump into the corner of a table where that crack is and you may not get anymore response at all.
I just think it potentially could turn into a much more expensive repair if not taken care of soon. Just not sure id personally want to risk it.
Its just my opinion is all.
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red you could just take it to tmo? or call Samsung it has to be under warranty but hey they'll do it and no screws up guaranteed. ad it will cost more than a do it your self. i saw somewhere that Verizon did for 100 with insurance, i assume tmo would close to that
Radio Shack has a service to replace your screen for $100. You would be without your phone for a couple of days, however.
I highly recommend the Otterbox Defender, and put all of my phones in one.
In March, while doing some climbing, I fell about 30 ft then tumbled down the side of a mountain. I had a Droid X in my pocket (in it's Defender), and the only damage to the phone was to the camera lens. Everything else about the phone was groovy. I was not in such great shape, as this was in the Arizona desert mountains, so there was no cushy landing whatsoever.
Defender FTW!
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red you could just take it to tmo? or call Samsung it has to be under warranty but hey they'll do it and no screws up guaranteed. ad it will cost more than a do it your self. i saw somewhere that Verizon did for 100 with insurance, i assume tmo would close to that
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Sorry, i guess i just assumed we were talking about going by one of the diy guides i saw here not long ago. Pretty sure they had instructions for replacing only the glass, but anyway, if you have the full protection plan then it doesnt matter how bad its damaged. I believe the price about a month ago was $130.
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Sorry, i guess i just assumed we were talking about going by one of the diy guides i saw here not long ago. Pretty sure they had instructions for replacing only the glass, but anyway, if you have the full protection plan then it doesnt matter how bad its damaged. I believe the price about a month ago was $130.
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we were but then i thought what if red messed up something by accident like we all might, wouldn't that void his warranty? if it didnt then im all in for diy, thats the only reason i said the tmo thing for safety measure. also red looked it up on ebay blue one with tools was 28 dollars and from usa.
Ok, i gotcha. I could be wrong but if you have the full protection plan i was under the impression that you could pretty much do anything and get a replacement. So if im right you can attempt the fix diy style and if unsuccessful then get it replaced. I would double check me on that though!
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Ok, i gotcha. I could be wrong but if you have the full protection plan i was under the impression that you could pretty much do anything and get a replacement. So if im right you can attempt the fix diy style and if unsuccessful then get it replaced. I would double check me on that though!
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well i checked it here http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...setProtection&tp=Svc_Sub_EqpmntProtnInsurance. and i assume it would fall under the damage one its pretty vague which is good for red. so your probably right doc
Yeah, I was considering the DIY route (its like $25 on eBay but you have to break your screen off basically which scares the sh*t out of me).
I do have the full insurance. I may have to go to T-Mobile just to see how much it would cost. I don't have the extra money, just got my car out of the shop. If anything, if the insurance covers it and isn't very much, I could just tough it out until it gets worse (if it does) and THEN take it in to the store for work.
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Yeah, I was considering the DIY route (its like $25 on eBay but you have to break your screen off basically which scares the sh*t out of me).
I do have the full insurance. I may have to go to T-Mobile just to see how much it would cost. I don't have the extra money, just got my car out of the shop. If anything, if the insurance covers it and isn't very much, I could just tough it out until it gets worse (if it does) and THEN take it in to the store for work.
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Hey what's up red.. so welcome to the "club"... I dropped mine two weeks ago and cracked the glass pretty good.. not too too bad but its has cracks that I can see n feel.. so n e way I got a guy that I trust on the g2x forums that I was thinking of sending mine to him.. would u like me to holler at him for you?
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Still lucky, mine cracked more severe while inside my pocket because I bumped into a desk :/
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Trying to get the word out here for all who have been affected by their defective glass breaking.
I want to mention that I am NOT the creator of this petition I am nearly passing information on after I found it during a Google search.
http://www.change.org/petitions/spr...laxy-s3-s-that-have-defective-gorilla-glass-2
I haven't had an issue with broken glass. I've even dropped my Galaxy S from above pocket height on concrete without glass breaking. I do not expect my Galaxy S3 would fair as well. I was happy to sign your petition and here is what I wrote in the comments:
"Shouldn't even be called "Gorilla Glass" if it breaks this easily. A phone this expensive should have a more durable design, it should at least be able to withstand a drop from "pocket" height a few times before the glass breaks. The warranty should be improved, or, the repair should be dropped below $50."
I very seriously doubt thst even if every GS3 owner signed, they would do anything for us.
My hope is that they will at least take this into consideration for future devices.
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I very seriously doubt thst rven if evrry GS3 owner signed, they would do anything for us.
My hope is that they will at least take this into consideration for future devices.
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You may be right but it NEVER hurts to try and who knows, like everything else in this day and age, if it gets enough attention of the "press" we may be in business to pressure the Korean Giant to do something about it!!
I don't consider it defective if it breaks on a drop, I consider it a fragile design.
What I do consider defective, is the habit of the displays to have black pixels visible if you have a black background w/ nothing on it and a very dark room. That however, seems to be an accepted fact of these displays....by several forum posters and Samsung.
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I don't consider it defective if it breaks on a drop, I consider it a fragile design.
What I do consider defective, is the habit of the displays to have black pixels visible if you have a black background w/ nothing on it and a very dark room. That however, seems to be an accepted fact of these displays....by several forum posters and Samsung.
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Let's say a defective design. MOBILE phones should be designed to hold up to the harsh environments they are produced to work in. That is environments that are ever changing, MOVEMENT, unlike for example an old corded phone where you are mostly stationary and it is not required to take out of your pocket... Engineers should be thinking of durability rather then how elegant or lightweight they can make it. The Iphone 5 (pains me to say this) takes a sh*t load of abuse and holds up extremely well. Samsung could not have taken durability into the equation when making this phone and I am sure they have their own drop test in the labs... I think they should be ashamed of themselves and I believe it is highway robbery what they have done to the supporters of their product.
This phone wasn't designed for an Army man fast ropping off a helo, it designed for Joe & Jane Blow. And not with sister Dee Dee flinging it around in mind.
My fiancee's S2 is Chuck Norris, it doesn't hit things, it dares them to get in the way.
My S3 is like an iPhone, when I drop it, I will hold my breath until I see the result.
You are right, they should be ashamed of themselves. They degraded the durability of the phone, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's do to the whole make the phone body very un iPhone 4 like. But I also know, if defective design was a legit problem, the daily wtf would not have so much posting material. People design things and we just hope not to be pissed on by it. It's not defective if it works as intended, and how do we know that Sammy didn't want it this way in order to make more money on screen repair or as a deal with some case makers?
I'm just glad that my phone hasn't taken any damage...even after dropping it and Milky Way slamming into an open dresser drawer and than dangling by the USB cable plugged into my computer. No case. If it had hit a corner instead of the business end...well, fml!
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This phone wasn't designed for an Army man fast ropping off a helo, it designed for Joe & Jane Blow. And not with sister Dee Dee flinging it around in mind.
My fiancee's S2 is Chuck Norris, it doesn't hit things, it dares them to get in the way.
My S3 is like an iPhone, when I drop it, I will hold my breath until I see the result.
You are right, they should be ashamed of themselves. They degraded the durability of the phone, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's do to the whole make the phone body very un iPhone 4 like. But I also know, if defective design was a legit problem, the daily wtf would not have so much posting material. People design things and we just hope not to be pissed on by it. It's not defective if it works as intended, and how do we know that Sammy didn't want it this way in order to make more money on screen repair or as a deal with some case makers?
I'm just glad that my phone hasn't taken any damage...even after dropping it and Milky Way slamming into an open dresser drawer and than dangling by the USB cable plugged into my computer. No case. If it had hit a corner instead of the business end...well, fml!
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LMAO that is some funny stuff and agreed, especially on them making money off the screen repair...
All i can say is you are one lucky dude!! Watch those corners!!!!
Does this include scratching? I normally take really good care of my phones and even in doing so I have two hairline scratches which I have no idea how they even got there. I hate screen protectors and now I'm forced to use one just to cover the scratches
afbengochea said:
Does this include scratching? I normally take really good care of my phones and even in doing so I have two hairline scratches which I have no idea how they even got there. I hate screen protectors and now I'm forced to use one just to cover the scratches
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Well Gorilla Glass is supposed to reduce scratching but this petition is for breaking only. You can still help out the cause and sign it. :laugh:
Gorilla Glass is only scratch resistent. What we need is a glass that's like Vibranium. And twice as cool as in a shield.
Glass breaks, it's a fact. Gorilla Glass only protects against scratches. And Obama doesn't care about your phone.
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How about don't drop ur 600 dollar phone? Lol!
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How about don't drop ur 600 dollar phone? Lol!
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That's helpful. Thanks for the advise.
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I personally don't blame the glass. I blame the bezel. If you look closely at your phone you will notice that the screen is slightly raised from the edges. This causes corner and edge drops to impact on the edge of the glass(weakest point for any type of glass) whereas other device the screen is in a little from the bezel. So when dropped the bezel curls and affects the surface of the glass(much stronger than the edge) that's why they break so easily.
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I personally don't blame the glass. I blame the bezel. If you look closely at your phone you will notice that the screen is slightly raised from the edges. This causes corner and edge drops to impact on the edge of the glass(weakest point for any type of glass) whereas other device the screen is in a little from the bezel. So when dropped the bezel curls and affects the surface of the glass(much stronger than the edge) that's why they break so easily.
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Precisley!
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Wow! Digging the new "Recognized Contributor" Doc!
Back on topic, I'm signing for sure.
Guys, a few things I would like to comment on. Firstly I am a "veteran" corporate frontline T-Mobile employee. I usually sell the highest volume phones in my store and sometimes my region, and as the S3 being my third most phone that I sell, I can tell you that I personally have only returned two devices for defects and none thus far for cracked LCD's (including insurance claims). Now that is not saying obviously that it doesn’t happen, I’m just saying that I PERSONALLY have not seen it.
Secondly, these phones have built-in impact zones that Samsung engineered into them. lol, how they work is beyond me, so I won't pretend I understand, I just know they are there in the event of a drop to reduce the impulse felt by the device and its inerts.
Also, I personally have dropped my S3 at least seven times with which half of those times were on concrete. I also do not use any kind of case nor do I have screen protectors on it. It is Au Naturale! Knock on wood, my phone doesn’t even have a scratch on it.
edit: Not tryig to sound like a narcissist, but giving you background info to show you that I come across and move a lot of these devices on a daily basis.
You better knock hard lol... I promise you I dropped my phone from less then 12 inches and it shattered. Again it's not the glass it is the frame that gives way and pushes into the glass, then the glass has nowhere to go but to fracture. It is the most vulnerable area of the glass. Thanks for sharing.
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Maybe Tmobile is aware of this thats why they are adding Asurion Premium Handset Protection extended warranties to people's bills without their authorization. Im being facetious.
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Someone submerged the HTC One M8 in water for about 90 minutes, it came out just fine. Is this phone waterproof? I haven't seen any specs saying it is, but apparently it's at least water-resistant. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
Thanks to MrMario8 and fernando sor, they posted this video in another thread that got locked.
phsteve said:
Someone submerged the HTC One M8 in water for about 90 minutes, it came out just fine. Is this phone waterproof? I haven't seen any specs saying it is, but apparently it's at least water-resistant. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
Thanks to MrMario8 and fernando sor, they posted this video in another thread that got locked.
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I'm just wondering why the clock background kept changing from black to clear and back.
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I'm just wondering why the clock background kept changing from black to clear and back.
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It didn't. It did it once - 6PM hit and it went black. I noticed the music player popped up on the screen though.
Obviously I wouldn't go dropping my phone in water to test this but it looks like HTC did manage to isolate the components enough to make it water resistant. I wonder why they didn't advertise it? Probably because of the lack of flaps I guess.
This would likely cause damage to the USB and headphone jack over time but its a cool test of the build quality for sure.
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This would likely cause damage to the USB and headphone jack over time but its a cool test of the build quality for sure.
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It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.
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It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.
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Yeah I'm happy they improved the already exceptional build quality. The M7 survived the most ridiculous torture test I've seen CNET administer while the S4 failed miserably. HTC has a lot more experience with phones than anyone else but Nokia really so it shouldn't be a surprise that they pulled this off but its still nice to see. And they did it without flaps, that's the real big FU to Sony
The review by CNET suggests this is not true.
The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.
http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-one-m8/
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The review by CNET suggests this is not true.
The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.
http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-one-m8/
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nobody is claiming this phone was made to be water resistant. However, spending 1hr and 30 mins in water indicates you dont have to worry about splasehes/rain/ etc.. dont take it diving and be careless
Is the removable battery even a big deal now days? Who keep their phone for more than 2 years now anyway?
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I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.
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I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.
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the ports arent covered. they will wear out and get ruined. so no its not water resistant
Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
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They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.
Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.
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Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.
Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.
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And not even all ports.. The Sony Z ultra gpe doesn't have a cover over the headphone jack. My friend who had the Z was surprised because he said the Z had a cover over the headphone jack.
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They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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Yes I agree that Sony got it right with the z2. However it did take a couple of generations for them to get it right. External speakers even on the z1 is not very good. Reviewers always pointed to the waterproofing as the cause of the low speaker volume.
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Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
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Not sure if you worded that out of order - but the whole idea of the rice, is to do it BEFORE attempting to turn it on. If you tried to turn it on before letting it sit a few days in rice, thats the point where the damage is done. (Turning it on still moist)
Watch carefully through the video, I have to question its authenticity.
If you notice, there are bubbles coming from the headphone jack. At multiple times the quantity and speed of these increase, often when the camera comes back on after altering it's position. I know the camera was said to run out of storage space etc, however the bubbles suggests that the phone has been removed and replaced.
thats with the bubbles i also saw - and when bubbles can go outside normally water can go inside too.
aluminium and water also not best friends. in my eyes the video is fake or manipulated.
My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.
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My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.
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Maybe build quality varies. I spilled a whole glass on it and absolutely nothing happened. Screen, and also the speakers, works great as before. I tested them immediately. Maybe I was just lucky. But still, a whole glass, and I saw how the water filled every speaker hole.
Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
I haven't held a g3 yet but its build looks a lot like the galaxy line of phones and the only things they added to the s5 to make it water resistant is a small bead of something on the lid that acts like weather stripping and a water tight lid for the usb 3 slot. Just add a bead of caulking to the g3 lid and buy a case with a usb cover. I bet you would be just as water resistant as any phone that is right out of box.
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
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I didn't even think about the speakers
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That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
Edit: the link said g watch but it was the G3 my mistake.
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I didn't even think about the speakers
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Well the guy who made the video said the speaker and in call microphone still works perfectly even after a day so I reckon this phone has some level of ip rating.
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
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True.. I think I would be hesitant to even try this using the z2 or g5 both of which are officially waterproof/resistant.. I damaged my s3 when I accidentally dropped that in the toilet lol the speaker stopped working and the screen would go blank every now and then. So its nice to know the g3 may survive if accidentally drop in a puddle
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Battery dropped to 19% after 2 hours. Couldn't tell what it started at but looked pretty full.
I wouldn't try it with my G3, it seems to be fake.
Even the Z2 is not covered by the guarantee if it fail due to water, so....
"Don't try at home!"
Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Was about to say this. It's the ions (minerals) in water that make it more conductive and short your devices. It's why you can submerge PC's in super clean oil for cooling and still have them work. Don't ever submerge your phone if avoidable.
People are idiots.
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yes it is
Unfortunately and as gross as this sounds...I dropped mine in the toilet. It was submerged for atleast 10 seconds before i realized. Dont ask. Just make sure you put it fully in your pocket before standing. After a full sanitizing...and I mean full...it still works fine. No issuses at all. Never turned off...never flickered...
Although I do have an Otterbox on it. That probably helped.
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That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
Well.. I have seen videos of the submergence testing on the G3 and it coming out okay from it. But if it actually were true manufacturers would jump to label & sell it as it makes a great marketing point.
But LG didn't, and they must have a reason for it. That's why I wouldn't go too careless with my phone.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
It is not water resistant. Never been advertised as . don't spread ridiculous info mate !!!
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
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The something's weird, because the video I saw when clicking on that link very clearly shows a G3 dunked in a glass bowl full of water. Not a Gwatch in sight.
I can say that my phone survived after being in a my swimming trunks for 1 hour before I realized I jumped in the pool while it was still in my pocket. I didnt realized that I had swam with it until after I got out. The phone was dead, but then I immediately removed the battery cover and battery. After shaking the water out a bit, pushing the water out through the usb and phone jack holes, I then let it dry out in the sun while I reluctantly tried not to let it ruin my vacation.
Later on that night I used a blow dryer to blow warm air into any and all holes I could see in the phone case. Then I put in a spare battery and the phone started right up! Granted the lower half of my screen had some moisture in it. I can tell because the screen was really bright there. So I turned the phone off, pulled the battery and started blow drying a bit more. After restarting, i noticed the moisture in the screen was less.
A few days later I would say my phone is fully recovered. Speakers work fine, microphone, bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc. I am semi surprised, but not so much because of the lack of moving parts in the phone. for instance, my ipod classic with a hard drive never recovered.
The only thing that I do not think has fully recovered is the battery that was submerged. this battery does not seem to hold a charge as good as it used to. but thats fine... as long as I didnt have to replace my phone. Luckily I had the spare battery already.