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GS4 getting L update?

I want to know if and when we'll be getting the next update ?

Next Tuesday.

I thought it was next Thursday?
Pp.

I would be dope If we are getting that l update
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I got L like a week ago. Where y'all been?

Official? ^
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HampTheToker said:
I got L like a week ago. Where y'all been?
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What L is that, Lol ?
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From article
"Samsung hasn't confirmed any Android 5.0 Lollipop updates for its devices; however, at least one device from the manufacturer is certain to receive the new software. The Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play edition should be among the first devices to receive Android 5.0."
So, we should be among the first to get the update. It will likely be out in the Google Play Edition ROM's first, and official update probably a lot later. I wouldn't expect it to come too soon, but it will arrive.

PanchoPlanet said:
What L is that, Lol ?
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Nah, Android version codename lap dance.

He actually asked official Ahaha
People hear of something new, and just want it because it new. No idea what it actually is nor anything about it. (Just fyi its not even released yet.) Kinda like multi window on the s3. Everyone cried for. 1000s and 1000s. Finally got it, and honestly how many people actually use it? I bet I can count the percentage on my hands.

ShinySide said:
He actually asked official Ahaha
People hear of something new, and just want it because it new. No idea what it actually is nor anything about it. (Just fyi its not even released yet.) Kinda like multi window on the s3. Everyone cried for. 1000s and 1000s. Finally got it, and honestly how many people actually use it? I bet I can count the percentage on my hands.
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I used multi-window for a while, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

ShinySide said:
He actually asked official Ahaha
People hear of something new, and just want it because it new. No idea what it actually is nor anything about it. (Just fyi its not even released yet.) Kinda like multi window on the s3. Everyone cried for. 1000s and 1000s. Finally got it, and honestly how many people actually use it? I bet I can count the percentage on my hands.
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MultiWhat?
I watch what I eat.!
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ShinySide said:
He actually asked official Ahaha
People hear of something new, and just want it because it new. No idea what it actually is nor anything about it. (Just fyi its not even released yet.) Kinda like multi window on the s3. Everyone cried for. 1000s and 1000s. Finally got it, and honestly how many people actually use it? I bet I can count the percentage on my hands.
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You are totally right on the above - .
I have read that 5.0 (hate Google's names) is supposed to be a major update (with Art, etc) and the reviews covered other new features - but will have to see if, bottom line, it will really reflect a major step forward.
Totally off topic here - getting tired hearing all the hoopla about Apple Wallet - been using Google Wallet for two years - what's the big deal ?

I'm looking forward to the sweet sweet ROMs for this device with Lollipop!

gaww said:
Totally off topic here - getting tired hearing all the hoopla about Apple Wallet - been using Google Wallet for two years - what's the big deal ?
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Its apple, of course there's gonna be crazy hoopla over anything fruit

gaww said:
You are totally right on the above - .
I have read that 5.0 (hate Google's names) is supposed to be a major update (with Art, etc) and the reviews covered other new features - but will have to see if, bottom line, it will really reflect a major step forward.
Totally off topic here - getting tired hearing all the hoopla about Apple Wallet - been using Google Wallet for two years - what's the big deal ?
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The only good thing about Apple Pay will be that more retailers will update their CC machines so that we can use NFC and Google Wallet.
Rob

Nevermind

The Sickness said:
Nevermind
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Yes we do mind, what's in that Sick mind.
We need to know! More input.
Pp.

PanchoPlanet said:
Yes we do mind, what's in that Sick mind.
We need to know! More input.
Pp.
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It can be "possible" that the Android L can prevent root. But that is mainly for phones with a locked bootloader, which we dont have........
But, first it was Knox, now Google is trying to make it to where you cant even root your phone. Go to the Portal and read this.

The Sickness said:
It can be "possible" that the Android L can prevent root. But that is mainly for phones with a locked bootloader, which we dont have........
But, first it was Knox, now Google is trying to make it to where you cant even root your phone. Go to the Portal and read this.
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Yikes !*@% $
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Will we get Nougat (7.0)? If so, when?

Just thought I'd throw this out there because the 1+3 is my first 1+. Can anyone with past 1+ experience give me an idea of first, whether we should expect to get Nougat, and second, if we can expect it, how long after the initial release will it be released for us?

Well, I meant to post this in Q&A, but I guess discussion works too.

Judging by the 1+2, yes, half a year after N goes official.
But who knows, maybe they improved, we got a quick RAM and display fix after all, so I'll say it'll land on january 17th 2017.

You are asking us to predict on something that doesn't yet exist.
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brickedvice said:
You are asking us to predict on something that doesn't yet exist.
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Pandemic187 said:
Can anyone with past 1+ experience
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It's not like my post was even lengthy...

Official update for sure takes months. But i hope CM and AOSP brings us a (more or less stable) N beta some weeks after the launch. So maybe for christmas this year.

Thanks Hatshipuh and Tiz92. That seems like a reasonable time frame.
Oh, and extra points to Hatshipuh for an exact date estimate! :laugh:

Prediction: OP3 will be the first Non-Nexus/HTC/Sony phone to get 7.0, officially or unofficially.
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t2jbird said:
Prediction: OP3 will be the first Non-Nexus/HTC/Sony phone to get 7.0, officially or unofficially.
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Well said. Wasn't there a pic floating around of the op3 running a preview N? I remember seeing it somewhere online bit I didn't care coz I never thought I would buy this phone at the time.

It was a fake. There were "0"s with different fonts.

History is a cyclic phenomenom.
At each new Android version the same threads, with the same answers: we don't know.
The correct answer is: When it's done. And sooner for custom roms.

What did you said?

matze19999 said:
What did you said?
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haha, I was about to say the same thing.

Pandemic187 said:
Just thought I'd throw this out there because the 1+3 is my first 1+. Can anyone with past 1+ experience give me an idea of first, whether we should expect to get Nougat, and second, if we can expect it, how long after the initial release will it be released for us?
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We won't get Android N
Enjoy!

matze19999 said:
What did you said?
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Come back to future bro, lol

It's better to not count on getting Android N.
And even if it comes, there is a probability that certain things in a N update will be annoying or worse than on Marshmallow so that many users will prefer to not update to N.
But that is OK - on my LG G2 which I used for 2.5 years I still have Android 4.4. And it works, so what?

I heard that Android Nougat will be "6.1". Is it true?

_MartyMan_ said:
I heard that Android Nougat will be "6.1". Is it true?
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No, it will be 7.0

I don't pin my hopes high of getting android N anytime sooner than 1 year. I will be relying on custom ROMs. The only thing i will be missing is camera quality. Photos on custom ROMs just don't match with what i can get with stock. Hopefully we get alternative.
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android n for one plus 3 ? in Feb-March 2017 , they have a history of slow updates. best to assume more time to avoid horrible disappointment lol . but who will stay on stock for so long ? i just hope the op3 gets a cam mod that makes us utilize the slow mo video recordings in aosp/cm roms.. then id go ahead.

Can Dev port HTC Sense to Pixel?

Since the Pixel is manufactured by HTC , you think Dev can port a fully working Sense to the Pixel? Not half baked working rom.

Wtf!!!! Just why in the world would you slow down the phone with a skin?? No offense but i honestly think that its reasons like this that oems dont move away from skins because there are ppl that still perfer to sludge their phone with skins, i could already see if samsung were to put out a pixel phone or nexus ppl would ask..."can we port touchwiz?" ughhh i wanna rip my eyeballs out
And to answer ur question i think best bet would be to wait for cm14 comes to pixel... they have a theme engine and have sense skins??
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It is possible if we find a way to root. By possible I mean it is possible to find the amount of water in a lake just by using a cup, possible but not easy.

spy4ka said:
It is possible if we find a way to root. By possible I mean it is possible to find the amount of water in a lake just by using a cup, possible but not easy.
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Chainfire post this on twitter
My Pixel will not arrive for a while yet. SuperSU will need some changes, but having looked at the firmwares, I'm not worried.
I think it's a possibility since HTC has their hands on Google Pixel software.
http://www.xda-developers.com/googl...of-an-htc-cerberus-from-pixel-xl-source-code/

Why didn't you just buy an HTC 10?

why did you get a pixel?

flex360 said:
why did you get a pixel?
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Thank you!!!!!! Exactly!!!! This is why samsung/Htc/LG will never care to remove their skins because those types of ppl will need it, and compromise performance on the poor device with great specs...smfhhh i swear!!!

Slicktune said:
Thank you!!!!!! Exactly!!!! This is why samsung/Htc/LG will never care to remove their skins because those types of ppl will need it, and compromise performance on the poor device with great specs...smfhhh i swear!!!
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Maybe he likes the hardware of the pixel and just wants options on the software. Why did you even post in this thread if you're going to be so negative about the subject? I myself like options to choose from.

jal3223 said:
Maybe he likes the hardware of the pixel and just wants options on the software. Why did you even post in this thread if you're going to be so negative about the subject? I myself like options to choose from.
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No im not being negative but thats the reason we will NEVER see a fully stock android on samsung ever....because ppl actually like touchwiz which takes a hit on performance and it isnt fair to others that would like to experience faster software...just saying
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Closest thing you can get. Works great though, can use it as home or an app if you use nova shortcuts ttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3049438
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When should we expect to see Oreo Roms?

Sorry if this has been asked already, but like I asked, when should we start to see Oreo ROMs?

hostilebynature said:
Sorry if this has been asked already, but like I asked, when should we start to see Oreo ROMs?
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Don't ask for ETAs.
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What's wrong with stock?
Aftermarket ROMs seem to introduce more problems than they fix, for the past 4 phones
I finally learned my lesson with the Nexus 6 and stuck with stock and a custom kernel. Xposed will be along and there is no reason for a ROM.
Substratum, ✓
Root, ✓
Android Pay/Netflix, ✓
Boot Animation change, ✓
Custom Kernel, ✓
Xposed, soon[emoji769]
What are the other reasons you possibly want to taint a great phone?
T.
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Some people enjoy the the mods that come with custom ROMs. Since the Nexus 5 I've been a huge fan of the contents by the team over at Dirty Unicorns puts out. Wouldn't mind trying out a DU Oreo rom if it ever happened.

XDA members usually like to flash...

galaxys said:
XDA members usually like to flash...
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Yep. If I recall from many years ago when creating an account on xda there was a check box you were required to check acknowledging that expected behavior.

Are any developers currently working on Oreo, or is this phone development dead?

dcillusions77 said:
Are any developers currently working on Oreo, or is this phone development dead?
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DU, Pure Nexus are working on Oreo if you know of any other roms that support this device check their source you'll see branches for 8.0

I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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localceleb said:
Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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My guess price this phone was super over priced compared to some of the other offerings in Android. Mid range is catching some great devices out there for little money

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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I'm staying on Nougat. Working TWRP recovery, running DU, and Franco Kernel. Seems like for me at least when I was on Oreo couldn't get the recovery to stick which was annoying. Went back to Nougat and all is well. Just have to wait for the Oreo's to start dropping.

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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I'm using a moto-x pure now so I hadn't payed any attention to the Pixel/PixelXL development scene at all. I pre ordered a Pixel 2 XL last night which made me go check out development on the Pixel XL out of curiosity. From what I gathered after some research last night it seems the 2016 pixels have a "non standard" way of handling updates. Apparently there are 2 partitions/slots for system/vendor (slot A and B). I'm not going into details what this means, but the short version is that it made things more difficult for custom recoveries to deal with. Even with all the right parts in place flashing a ROM/GAPPS/Root means taking extra steps that every other devices I've ever dealt with didn't need. Nothing major... just extra steps.
Like I said, that's a VERY basic explanation of the situation. Maybe somebody else is willing to go into more detail, but that's the gist of it. It does look to me though that the most popular ROMs have either an official or unofficial build available.
There's also something to be said about the state of "official android" now, which these phones run. At least to me there is significantly less reason to need/want a custom ROM now compared to just 2 years ago. Now that "official android" has themes capability via OMS and a lot of customization options there is not a whole lot I personally want anymore. My biggest thing is "long back press to kill" which can be had with an app if necessary, "advanced restart" menu and of course root.
I think if the only thing I can't have while sticking with the official builds is the "advanced restart" menu then I can deal with it, I can run terminal commands to achieve the same thing. I can imagine the Pixel 2 XL being my first android phone that I finally stick with the "official builds" + root for the life of the phone. I'm sure I'll end up playing with ROMs once they become available but I don't know if it will be much more than playing around... I've always used ROMs mostly to get the "stock android experience" because I like it.. but since this phone comes with it and will get VERY TIMELY android updates I can definitely see myself sticking with what's official and no ROMS. I ALMOST did it with my Moto X Pure.. moto's official builds were damn near AOSP and I used them until it became apparent that I could't rely of them for OS updates post Lenovo buying Motorola.

localceleb said:
Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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I can. The problem is with the dual slots. Pixel Dust was able to finally make a Oreo Rom for both Pixel and Pixel XL, however root is not possible yet. My suggestion if you want to be flash happy is to stay away from Google phones because from here on out they will all have dual slots.
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I'm staying on Nougat. Working TWRP recovery, running DU, and Franco Kernel. Seems like for me at least when I was on Oreo couldn't get the recovery to stick which was annoying. Went back to Nougat and all is well. Just have to wait for the Oreo's to start dropping.
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There was actually a updated twrp recovery this month and it sticks with Oreo now. Problem is that there is only one custom Rom for Oreo and currently root is not possible. That's with Pixel Dust Rom.

Roms - slow development?

With a semi stable version of twrp and project treble functionality making rom development supposedly simple, curious why is it that we have not a single rom even in it's infancy?
Lack of developers?
Waiting for stable twrp?

Because the minimum price for an XL is 849$. Not to mention all the problems that come along with it.
Development might be very slow. Till the price drops or they have a hardware revision and fix the screen. Not to mention Oreo is still very new.
I didn't buy this phone for development, mines still stock and enjoying it.

I was thinking the same thing, regarding slow ROM development. Kernel development took off immediately and there are a few solid kernel options available. But I'm surprised to see no ROMs available yet.
However, I do think there is some major truth behind the points antiochasylum made. On top of that, root is still in the infancy stage and TWRP is just very recently stable enough to be fully installed. My guess is that ROMs will start being made available in the next couple of weeks.

There is no reason to make a rom for this device. It works well as it is. Most know that by now. No reason to unlock, root, flash, you name it. The reason being there is no benefit. Well we have some font stuff, being able to brick it, and "I want control on my device" things but that is ancient history. Custom roms are basically done.
Stop asking for development if you are not willing to do it yourself.
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bobby janow said:
There is no reason to make a rom for this device. It works well as it is. Most know that by now. No reason to unlock, root, flash, you name it. The reason being there is no benefit. Well we have some font stuff, being able to brick it, and "I want control on my device" things but that is ancient history. Custom roms are basically done.
Stop asking for development if you are not willing to do it yourself.
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Sorry to say you do not speak for a large percentage of current users here. Just looking at the activity of the TWRP, Magisk and kernel threads proves you are mistaken.

Probly need a good stable TWRP before we see roms

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Probly need a good stable TWRP before we see roms
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That and I'm sure some of the devs who will most likely be in our corner don't even have a device yet. Some of them buy a phone based on donations or wait until they see how big the user base is.

Some will come as the stardust settles...

I'd love a rom that gets tethering to work again with VZ. Thinking about returning since I heavily rely on hotspot with my grandfathered plan.
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If you want development now then the Oneplus series is the place to be lol that's where all the development is happening cause it's a cheaper phone

bobby janow said:
There is no reason to make a rom for this device. It works well as it is. Most know that by now. No reason to unlock, root, flash, you name it. The reason being there is no benefit. Well we have some font stuff, being able to brick it, and "I want control on my device" things but that is ancient history. Custom roms are basically done.
Stop asking for development if you are not willing to do it yourself.
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You must have written this on your new iPhoneX. You need to update your signature to iPhoneX instead of the pixel 2.

choder said:
You must have written this on your new iPhoneX. You need to update your signature to iPhoneX instead of the pixel 2.
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Lol. You wish. Been here longer than you've been alive. But you are right in one way. I do have an iPhone. Not used unless I need to FaceTime my kids or have a line open.
I have a signature? Hmm. How about " Android since rooted Eris" ? Ever heard of that phone? Oc to 750. Guess the ROM?
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mackentosh said:
If you want development now then the Oneplus series is the place to be lol that's where all the development is happening cause it's a cheaper phone
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But no Verizon right??

bobby janow said:
Lol. You wish. Been here longer than you've been alive. But you are right in one way.
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With such age and wisdom you should ask to become a Fellow on XDA.

Geezus quit it. Back on topic please.
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choder said:
With such age and wisdom you should ask to become a Fellow on XDA.
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Lol. Who's to say I'm not?
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Geezus quit it. Back on topic please.
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Come on.. just having some fun.
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bobby janow said:
Lol. You wish. Been here longer than you've been alive. But you are right in one way. I do have an iPhone. Not used unless I need to FaceTime my kids or have a line open.
I have a signature? Hmm. How about " Android since rooted Eris" ? Ever heard of that phone? Oc to 750. Guess the ROM?
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Pfft. OG G1!=P back when you had to destroy a SD card to root.
To the topic at hand. I rooted my pixel 2 XL two days ago. Still trying to figure out why lol. I tweaked the display a tad to make it a little warmer and that's about it. Rooting is about control. ROMs are about customization. And what's left to customize? You going to make the phone faster?
OP5 has lots of development. one yes it's cheaper. But two, it needs it. Trying to improve on the camera. Make it a little snappier. And honestly most of the ROMs over there run worse than stock.
Real ROM development was because most of the time you couldn't get the latest and greatest on your phone. So you get a ROM built off the latest AOSP so you could be running the most recent software. or you were on TouchWiz and wanted vanilla. Those days are dead.
I'm sure in the coming weeks a few ROMs will get cooked together. And the hardcore flashers will install it. Maybe it will be amazing but the simple fact is stock Android is so good the concept of rooting and ROMs is more novelty than necessary at this point

choder said:
With such age and wisdom you should ask to become a Fellow on XDA.
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Ok.. xtrRom
zathus said:
Pfft. OG G1!=P back when you had to destroy a SD card to root.
To the topic at hand. I rooted my pixel 2 XL two days ago. Still trying to figure out why lol. I tweaked the display a tad to make it a little warmer and that's about it. Rooting is about control. ROMs are about customization. And what's left to customize? You going to make the phone faster?
OP5 has lots of development. one yes it's cheaper. But two, it needs it. Trying to improve on the camera. Make it a little snappier. And honestly most of the ROMs over there run worse than stock.
Real ROM development was because most of the time you couldn't get the latest and greatest on your phone. So you get a ROM built off the latest AOSP so you could be running the most recent software. or you were on TouchWiz and wanted vanilla. Those days are dead.
I'm sure in the coming weeks a few ROMs will get cooked together. And the hardcore flashers will install it. Maybe it will be amazing but the simple fact is stock Android is so good the concept of rooting and ROMs is more novelty than necessary at this point
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You can. I have og grandfathered Verizon plan and tethering works for me. Had to change the build prop but it works.
mroberte said:
I'd love a rom that gets tethering to work again with VZ. Thinking about returning since I heavily rely on hotspot with my grandfathered plan.
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Unless you had Bugless Beast or ChevyNo1 you were nobody. lol Or the famed Adamz Smoked Glass roms back when Sir Psycho Recovery. Man those were the days. 500mhz overclocked to 1.25
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Ok.. xtrRom
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zathus said:
Pfft. OG G1!=P back when you had to destroy a SD card to root.
To the topic at hand. I rooted my pixel 2 XL two days ago. Still trying to figure out why lol. I tweaked the display a tad to make it a little warmer and that's about it. Rooting is about control. ROMs are about customization. And what's left to customize? You going to make the phone faster?
OP5 has lots of development. one yes it's cheaper. But two, it needs it. Trying to improve on the camera. Make it a little snappier. And honestly most of the ROMs over there run worse than stock.
Real ROM development was because most of the time you couldn't get the latest and greatest on your phone. So you get a ROM built off the latest AOSP so you could be running the most recent software. or you were on TouchWiz and wanted vanilla. Those days are dead.
I'm sure in the coming weeks a few ROMs will get cooked together. And the hardcore flashers will install it. Maybe it will be amazing but the simple fact is stock Android is so good the concept of rooting and ROMs is more novelty than necessary at this point
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bryantjopplin said:
You can. I have og grandfathered Verizon plan and tethering works for me. Had to change the build prop but it works.
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Unless you had Bugless Beast or ChevyNo1 you were nobody. lol Or the famed Adamz Smoked Glass roms back when Sir Psycho Recovery. Man those were the days. 500mhz overclocked to 1.25
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Wow, so overwhelmed with flashbacks almost brought a tear. Bugless beast was legit. Back when rootzwiki was the place to be.
Ok, I'm done hijacking the thread lol