horrendous battery life... what's going on here? - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl

OK,
So I have an SM-P600 which I kept completely stock until 2 years after my purchase date (needed the Knox environment for the first two years).
It is fully rooted with TWRP 3.0.0.1 and have been running CM 12.1 for ~3 weeks (prior to that I was giving Temasek's CM13 build a go). Over the last few weeks, the tablet has been getting worse and worse battery life.
Today, I watched it carefully and this graph blew my mind. It didn't make any sense at all, but if I don't have any way to recover from this than this tablet is worth less than the plastic it is made out of.
Is there anything that can be done about this or is the battery in this thing effectively dead at this point?
Thanks
Enzymaticracer

App caches and databases outta control. SD Maid is IMHO the best tool, oversees nothing. The device gets also notably hotter and slower in severe cases. It has to handle dozens of thousands of tiny files. A Windows PC can handle this and much more, an Android device not.

Enzymaticracer said:
OK,
So I have an SM-P600 which I kept completely stock until 2 years after my purchase date (needed the Knox environment for the first two years).
It is fully rooted with TWRP 3.0.0.1 and have been running CM 12.1 for ~3 weeks (prior to that I was giving Temasek's CM13 build a go). Over the last few weeks, the tablet has been getting worse and worse battery life.
Today, I watched it carefully and this graph blew my mind. It didn't make any sense at all, but if I don't have any way to recover from this than this tablet is worth less than the plastic it is made out of.
Is there anything that can be done about this or is the battery in this thing effectively dead at this point?
Thanks
Enzymaticracer
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Looking at your graph, that is a substantial drop in a short time. I see its been 2 weeks or so since your original post, if it's still acting in the same manner it may be about time for a new battery. They (the batteries) seem to fail in the note 10.1 2014 editions after 2-2.5 years. The battery is an easy repair, I posted the step by step instructions with pictures after doing mine, that post is here. The battery is worth replacing if its failed (or failing) if you otherwise like your tablet. I do recommend paying for an actual Samsung brand replacement battery and not going with one of the cheaper aftermarket replacement batteries. I went with an el cheapo battery I found on Amazon and it's already showing signs of eminent failure and needs replacement again (only approx. 6 months old).
As for the overheating issue, cm13 seems to run the CPUs at full capacity nearly 100% of the time. CM12.1 is much friendlier on the CPU's and for that very reason I now stick to CM12.1 on mine. Another option (if you haven't already tried it) in the PACMAN ROM. It's another unofficial cm12.1 build. It's operates pretty smooth, relatively few bugs. Heres a link to it http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/development/rom-pac-rom-lp-mr1-beta-2-t3144252
Best of luck to you

thebadwrench said:
Looking at your graph, that is a substantial drop in a short time. I see its been 2 weeks or so since your original post, if it's still acting in the same manner it may be about time for a new battery. They (the batteries) seem to fail in the note 10.1 2014 editions after 2-2.5 years. The battery is an easy repair, I posted the step by step instructions with pictures after doing mine, that post is here. The battery is worth replacing if its failed (or failing) if you otherwise like your tablet. I do recommend paying for an actual Samsung brand replacement battery and not going with one of the cheaper aftermarket replacement batteries. I went with an el cheapo battery I found on Amazon and it's already showing signs of eminent failure and needs replacement again (only approx. 6 months old).
As for the overheating issue, cm13 seems to run the CPUs at full capacity nearly 100% of the time. CM12.1 is much friendlier on the CPU's and for that very reason I now stick to CM12.1 on mine. Another option (if you haven't already tried it) in the PACMAN ROM. It's another unofficial cm12.1 build. It's operates pretty smooth, relatively few bugs. Heres a link to it http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/development/rom-pac-rom-lp-mr1-beta-2-t3144252
Best of luck to you
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Hi Wrench,
Thanks for the suggestion. That is effectively the same conclusion I had come to.
However, this is now the 3rd Samsung device for which I've had horrible experiences with between 1.0-2.0 years after purchase. I'll spare you the details, but the only Android device I will be buying from here on out will be a Nexus device.... assuming they have one in a form factor *I* want.
Otherwise, wife just purchased the newest iPad, so I'm using her nearly *4* year old iPad 4 now, which, amazingly, still works. Still hate iOS, but it *actually* does what I need it to do at this point.
Just like Samsung doesn't support their devices... I'm not going to support them anymore.

Enzymaticracer said:
Hi Wrench,
Thanks for the suggestion. That is effectively the same conclusion I had come to.
However, this is now the 3rd Samsung device for which I've had horrible experiences with between 1.0-2.0 years after purchase. I'll spare you the details, but the only Android device I will be buying from here on out will be a Nexus device.... assuming they have one in a form factor *I* want.
Otherwise, wife just purchased the newest iPad, so I'm using her nearly *4* year old iPad 4 now, which, amazingly, still works. Still hate iOS, but it *actually* does what I need it to do at this point.
Just like Samsung doesn't support their devices... I'm not going to support them anymore.
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Nexus devices aren't all they're cracked up to be. I dropped my nexus 9 for an S2 and couldn't be happier. I hate samsung BTW because of their lack of support after purchase, but it doesn't seem like any company is much better. They don't want you to have a device longer than 2 yrs, period. My dad is still using a 9yr old laptop on windows 10 with no problems. Sure it's not as speedy as my 2.5yr old gaming laptop (also on the latest windows OS) but it does what he wants.

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[Q] Should i get the Nexus 7? do you regret? do you had have any problems?

First off, hi all. i am a common android rom/app developer who is looking to get a new device to flash and flash non-stop
well, i will be getting the nexus 7 in aproximately 1 month..
i had been searching for long for a good tablet and this one looked amazing, it's high resolution in just 7" inch looks like the best hd tablet. and its quadcore 1.5 GHZ qualcomm processor with the amazing 2 GB ram looks pretty good..
i need opinions from you guys, owners of the nexus 7 2013.
well, lets get started,.
A) is this a good gaming tablet? good graphics? low / high frames?
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
C) wich are the advantages of having a nexus device? i mean, wich makes it superior than touchwiz or xperia?
D) does the battery last for long? the HD and the processor makes me thing the battery drain is high. but, you are the owner of the tablet, you tell me.
please sorry me for the bad english..
hope you can help me.. thanks in advance guys. :good:
A) is this a good gaming tablet? good graphics? low / high frames?
Not sure, I haven't done much gaming on it so I can't really tell.
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
I'm not a developer so I can't answer. Although I always read Nexus devices are very developer friendly.
C) wich are the advantages of having a nexus device? i mean, wich makes it superior than touchwiz or xperia?
You get Google updates immediately with Nexus devices. On Touchwiz, Xperia, or Sense, you have to wait until Samsung, Sony, or HTC make their own version of the updates and apply it to their own version of Android.
This can take several months. Which is why some people prefer Nexus devices.
D) does the battery last for long? the HD and the processor makes me thing the battery drain is high. but, you are the owner of the tablet, you tell me.
It depends on the user and tweaks the user applies. I'm stock rooted and I usually get 24-26hrs of standby time and 8hrs of screen time. I'm sure with a different kernal I could get a lot more if I wanted.
It's a great device. I've had it for a week and half, I've had absolutely no issues with it. I purchased the 32gb version and I have no regrets.
Good luck with your developing.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
I've been having a few problems with my tablet lately, namely software bugs (I made a post about this earlier) like ghost clicks that occur in the far corners, and crashes to reboot or apps simply not launching.
Apart from that however, the tablet seems to function exceptionally. The screen is nice but the black levels leave something to be desired, color reproduction is pretty good too. (and obviously resolution is second to none at this moment for 7" tablets)
IXChicharitoXI said:
A) is this a good gaming tablet? good graphics? low / high frames?
Not sure, I haven't done much gaming on it so I can't really tell.
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
I'm not a developer so I can't answer. Although I always read Nexus devices are very developer friendly.
C) wich are the advantages of having a nexus device? i mean, wich makes it superior than touchwiz or xperia?
You get Google updates immediately with Nexus devices. On Touchwiz, Xperia, or Sense, you have to wait until Samsung, Sony, or HTC make their own version of the updates and apply it to their own version of Android.
This can take several months. Which is why some people prefer Nexus devices.
D) does the battery last for long? the HD and the processor makes me thing the battery drain is high. but, you are the owner of the tablet, you tell me.
It depends on the user and tweaks the user applies. I'm stock rooted and I usually get 24-26hrs of standby time and 8hrs of screen time. I'm sure with a different kernal I could get a lot more if I wanted.
It's a great device. I've had it for a week and half, I've had absolutely no issues with it. I purchased the 32gb version and I have no regrets.
Good luck with your developing.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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thanks for your answer, i am 100% sure i will get this device i just saw a few threads, there is already root-tutorial and with roms working, so when i get it i will give a try.
will be strange to develop for unlocked bl roms since with mi phone i can only develop locked roms. i will try to port ubuntu touch for this tablet.
A) I've been playing games like Le Vamp and I've noticed no slowdowns. thing is though, I use it mainly for reading, books, textbooks, comics, so now much experience on the gaming front.
B) sounds like a personal choice to me
C) once again, personal choice
D) with about 1-2 hours of reading a day, it lasts me about 5 days before the battery is completely dead.
Nachospeicys said:
thanks for your answer, i am 100% sure i will get this device i just saw a few threads, there is already root-tutorial and with roms working, so when i get it i will give a try.
will be strange to develop for unlocked bl roms since with mi phone i can only develop locked roms. i will try to port ubuntu touch for this tablet.
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Just got this device. Was very curious to see if Ubuntu Touch is/will be supported on it. I'm definitely interested if you get this going.
I'll keep my hopes up. It's a Nexus after all.
A. I don't game, but I hear it's got a great GPU, so I believe it should be really nice for gaming.
B. No idea what you mean.
C. Stock Android seems smoother, less cluttered, and less confusing. Nexus devices will be the first to get new Android updates.
D. Battery life seems really good, I easily get through a day on a charge. Idle battery life is good for Android (never met an Android tablet that is as good as my iPad). Though Google Services seems to spend a lot of time waking up my tablet when it should be sleeping. I loose about 3% battery life an hour which seems a bit high, even for Android. I don't think everyone has this problem and it may be related to rooting or something. I've been too lazy to factory reset to troubleshoot the problem though. Even with the idle drain, the battery life overall is still pretty good.
I've been really happy with my Nexus 7, other than a little issue with idle battery drain from Google Services, I've not had any other issues. The build quality is much better this time. I've not had a single random reboot. And I'm not even sure what the multi-touch issues are about since I've not noticed anything odd on mine. The screen looks great, the colors are calibrated. The speakers sounds really good. Pretty much everything is positive.
Nachospeicys said:
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
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It's Android, the standard development toolchain for all other Android devices work fine on it and it's pretty mature and well supported. If you're a C++ dev you may want to get onto the NDK but frankly Java isn't exactly a massive leap to work with and unless you're massively processor-bound or planning to port widely I think you're better off just using the basic Java SDK until you get up to speed on the OS.
Simple answer : read through this before purchasing...
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/mG4JXaT-SHs[451-475-false]
If, after reading the 460+ posts you're feeling lucky (as the vast majority of owners are) go ahead and purchase.
Just be sure to purchase from a place that has the best return/exchange policy.
I speak from unfortunate first hand experience....
A) is this a good gaming tablet? good graphics? low / high frames?
Oh, yeah. It's perfect for gaming, I've thrown all the games I got at this thing and it runs them at full speed in 1080p. Performance is superb.
B) as this is a newly device, i am amazed to become a developer for this, but.. should i? i mean, there arent many tools for nexus 7 and i only know C++ coding, should i get this or an elder tablet with a strong community (as this is xda-developers)?
Get this one, for the horsepower, these are selling a lot right now and the community will grow quick like it did with the S4
C) wich are the advantages of having a nexus device? i mean, wich makes it superior than touchwiz or xperia?
This is my first nexus device, and what I like about it is that there is no bloat ware, it feels faster software wise and lighter. It starts up quickly and the performance is amazing. Updates are quick too, no need to wait for the slow updates from the carriers.
D) does the battery last for long? the HD and the processor makes me thing the battery drain is high. but, you are the owner of the tablet, you tell me.
I'm getting about 11 to 12 hours on a single charge, but that's different for everybody, it depends on the user
The Kindle Fire HD 2 will be a major 7 inch tablet contender. I'm looking forward to what it will bring with the redesign, Snapdragon 800 CPU and ROMs that will take advantage of it.
No regrets here in the purchase of the Nexus 7 2013. I was using a Lenovo A2107 and the speed difference is remarkable. It seems that the Nexus for $229 is a great deal, fully supported by Google (who will rule the world in the future) and it performs almost perfectly out of the box. It has many options built in like Qi charging, Bluetooth mouse/keyboard support in addition to BT audio. Great for Netflix. The WiFi is great, picks up weak signals that work fairly well. All in all, a very solid purchase. My Poetic Slimline case arrives tomorrow, looking forward to it to protect the glass since I don't like thick screen protector films. The screen glass seems somehow to not get all greased up like the old Lenovo. I'm very pleased with this inexpensive device. I spent over $1000 building a Windows desktop for work but I find myself using the Nexus for email, some browsing, and apps like timer, alarm clock, as well as watching movies. One drawback - lack of a SD socket - is overcome by using several online "cloud" free storage as long as WiFi is available - which in this town is everywhere....
Rob
robk2544 said:
One drawback - lack of a SD socket - is overcome by using several online "cloud" free storage as long as WiFi is available - which in this town is everywhere...
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This can be mitigated somewhat by using an OTG cable plus a portable SD reader (or just a plain 'ol USB flash drive). Admittedly it is not QUITE as convenient as having a built in slot, but you can still easily put all your media/documents on it and not chew up space on the emulated SD drive.
PJ Clifford said:
This can be mitigated somewhat by using an OTG cable plus a portable SD reader (or just a plain 'ol USB flash drive). Admittedly it is not QUITE as convenient as having a built in slot, but you can still easily put all your media/documents on it and not chew up space on the emulated SD drive.
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Yeah, kinda clumsy but definitely a solution. I'm just so used to SD slots back from the Palm T|X days. Have you seen the little one by meenova.com ? Small but I'd hate to snap it off by accident.
Rob
robk2544 said:
Yeah, kinda clumsy but definitely a solution. I'm just so used to SD slots back from the Palm T|X days. Have you seen the little one by meenova.com ? Small but I'd hate to snap it off by accident.
Rob
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Yeah, I can't see the reason for not including at least a MicroSD slot. The hardware cost would be minimal. Of course, I've not opened one up, so it may just be out of real estate on the inside. Google does seen to eschew them.
Yup, saw those. I would consider it, but the only form of payment they take is credit cards, which I can't do for the moment. I'm not sure that I don't prefer a short OTG cable anyway. While it dangles, it seems to be much harder to snap one off as most of the bulk is at the other end of the cable.
PJ Clifford said:
I'm not sure that I don't prefer a short OTG cable anyway. While it dangles, it seems to be much harder to snap one off as most of the bulk is at the other end of the cable.
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I see your point. The little meenova one just looks like it would be fragile and possibly damage the micro-usb socket on the tablet if you bump it. I'll probably go with a short cable - then I can use SD or sticks, with an adapter.
As this is my first tablet I can not compare to other ones. But to answer your questions
A) Gaming is great. Loads games fast. Compared to my Galaxy Nexus. Graphics and Display are great.
B) I am not a developer so I can not answer this.
C) I love close to vanilla android. I do root my devices and usually run CM.
D) Battery is great for me. I watched the hobbit the other day and went from 100% to just 90%. That is only 10% in a almost 3 hour movie. Gaming also gives me close the same battery type life.
Thanks guys, i got lots of answers, that means this is an active & friendly space, wich makes me happy.
i will use this for gaming,reading and waching movies in high definiton, also anyone has tried the HDMI ?
Nachospeicys said:
Thanks guys, i got lots of answers, that means this is an active & friendly space, wich makes me happy.
i will use this for gaming,reading and waching movies in high definiton, also anyone has tried the HDMI ?
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The only downside I have with the device is the glare on the screen. I have not tried the HDMI but want to know how good it works.
No regrets here.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

Concerns with purchasing a Zenfone 2.

Today I have been looking at new phones to purchase since I broke my old one. I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2.
My question to those of you here who have used this phone is, have you had any major issues with it that would warrant a replacement? Also, would it be a good phone to set up a custom modded rom on or should I look into other alternatives?
Jokester22 said:
Today I have been looking at new phones to purchase since I broke my old one. I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2.
My question to those of you here who have used this phone is, have you had any major issues with it that would warrant a replacement? Also, would it be a good phone to set up a custom modded rom on or should I look into other alternatives?
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Had mine since new , battery is better now than when I first used it at the beginning >19 months ago .
Brought it back from brick successfully every time .
Nougat is available now cm14.1 and although unofficial at the moment , it is great for me as main ROM and I am sure it will go from strength to strength.
Again , it all depends what you really want, I was contemplating a newer device this year but the devs bringing N changed my mind for at least another year.
This is the longest I have ever kept a phone BTW and its going no- where, any time soon.
Mines the ze551ml z00a 64gb 4gb ram 2.3ghz version comes with fast charger adapter.
timbernot said:
Had mine since new , battery is better now than when I first used it at the beginning >19 months ago .
Brought it back from brick successfully every time .
Nougat is available now cm14.1 and although unofficial at the moment , it is great for me as main ROM and I am sure it will go from strength to strength.
Again , it all depends what you really want, I was contemplating a newer device this year but the devs bringing N changed my mind for at least another year.
This is the longest I have ever kept a phone BTW and its going no- where, any time soon.
Mines the ze551ml z00a 64gb 4gb ram 2.3ghz version comes with fast charger adapter.
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Awesome! My biggest concern was going to be the battery. Some of the reviews I have read for the phone have been concerning in regards to the battery. Someone even said that the battery expanded and popped up their screen. Seemed a bit crazy. Is it true that the battery can't be removed? At least not by conventional methods... Also what carrier are you using it on?
Edit: Just noticed you are in the UK so the carrier thing won't help answer all my questions. LOL. However, it looks like it should be compatible with many of the carriers in the US.
Not seen many US people making threads about bands so should be OK
I definitely not suggest you this phone. (unless you pay it 100€)
-Poor battery life
-Bad quality construction (Speaker braking and ghost touch almost on every device after 6-12 months)
-Too big and heavy (this may be subjective).
-Bad software optimization
I'm moving to Lenovo Zuk Z2.
This is an old phone now. Get something new. :good:
timbernot said:
Had mine since new , battery is better now than when I first used it at the beginning >19 months ago .
Brought it back from brick successfully every time .
Nougat is available now cm14.1 and although unofficial at the moment , it is great for me as main ROM and I am sure it will go from strength to strength.
Again , it all depends what you really want, I was contemplating a newer device this year but the devs bringing N changed my mind for at least another year.
This is the longest I have ever kept a phone BTW and its going no- where, any time soon.
Mines the ze551ml z00a 64gb 4gb ram 2.3ghz version comes with fast charger adapter.
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DONT buy it
Reasons?:
-Poor battery life
-Ghost touches everywhere (defective phones, no matter how many times do you use warranty, ghost touches always come back)
-ASUS really dont want you to use other roms (its kinda easy to use other roms if you are experienced, but if you are a noob with android rooting, unlocking bl and that ****, you'll have some troubles).
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DONT buy it
Reasons?:
-Poor battery life
-Ghost touches everywhere (defective phones, no matter how many times do you use warranty, ghost touches always come back)
-ASUS really dont want you to use other roms (its kinda easy to use other roms if you are experienced, but if you are a noob with android rooting, unlocking bl and that ****, you'll have some troubles).
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Mines great , like already mentioned.
I don't experience anything like you lot have experienced
Will do me for another year at least.
I had the HTC one m7 4g version from new , camera went pink and battery would be approx 27% when I got home from a shift(below health and battery longevity threshold) and it would get hotter than the sun , whereas same shift and I'm in the high 70's % with the zenny
Not a scratch on it , no ghost sh1t or anything.
When it was new , battery was like the m7 with stock ROM
Nothing but praise at a 3rd the price of the HTC one
Jokester22 said:
Today I have been looking at new phones to purchase since I broke my old one. I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2.
My question to those of you here who have used this phone is, have you had any major issues with it that would warrant a replacement? Also, would it be a good phone to set up a custom modded rom on or should I look into other alternatives?
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As you can see there are a few who have had issues with their device, but there are the exceptions rather than the rule. EVERY phone line will have some who have issues. I think some of those here wouldn't be happy with a phone that lasts ten years on a charge and could cook and clean for them, but I digress.
I have had the US version of the ZE551ML 64GB since launch day. Great phone, great performance, good battery life (lasts me all day and then some, but my wife can kill it in no time when she gets to seriously playing games on it; it is a phone and not a Gameboy). I have used mine on the AT&T/Cricket network with no problems whatsoever. It should work on T-mobile but it does not have band 12 so I don't know how solid it would be on LTE.
I did have to RMA my original phone just before the one year warranty ran out, but it was not for a failure. On mine the glue between the glass and LCD separated; this did not affect its performance but it did create a silver outline around the screen. Asus replaced my phone without an issue because they were out of replacement screens at the time. I would have no issue whatsoever with buying another ZE551ML.
Don't bother dude, it's got the ****tiest build quality. Mine looks like it came from the trash. Sure it runs smooth, but ghost touches are a *****.
Trotter516 said:
As you can see there are a few who have had issues with their device, but there are the exceptions rather than the rule. EVERY phone line will have some who have issues. I think some of those here wouldn't be happy with a phone that lasts ten years on a charge and could cook and clean for them, but I digress.
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Yeah, there has been a lot of tossing and turning over the quality of this phone. As my issue is being the cost of the phone, I am trying not to spend too much more than $200. Actually noticed that the Zenfone 3 was around and considered getting the Laser. After some research and thinking though I'm going with the Moto G4, maybe the G4 Plus.
I'm actually in the same boat here.
I am tired of being stuck to a carrier.
Currently on sprint and the service just sucks. I can spend less than $200 for the 64gb ZE551ml and can switch to metro or something. I don't have the money to spend on super high end phones.
I saw the Zenfone 3 laser but not sure what to do.
I was super intrigued when I first saw this phone.
Dalamar1320 said:
I'm actually in the same boat here.
I am tired of being stuck to a carrier.
Currently on sprint and the service just sucks. I can spend less than $200 for the 64gb ZE551ml and can switch to metro or something. I don't have the money to spend on super high end phones.
I saw the Zenfone 3 laser but not sure what to do.
I was super intrigued when I first saw this phone.
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https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-g
This is the phone I have decided to go with. I have not ordered one yet as I am not in a dire need for a phone but it looks really good and its a more recent release compared to the Zenfone 2. The Zenfone 3 laser was my second choice or even the Honor 5x.
4gb ram 64gb version is $300
It is but I don't really have a need for all that. The biggest issue I had with my last phone was the processor was just crap.
Jokester22 said:
It is but I don't really have a need for all that. The biggest issue I had with my last phone was the processor was just crap.
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"..... I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2....." from your first post
You a real jokester ?
timbernot said:
"..... I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2....." from your first post
You a real jokester ?
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I mostly saw 2gb versions XD. Don't get me wrong. I would not mind a 4gb phone but as per preference I would rather just get the newer hardware.
Edit: I should also note that I had not looked at much other phones yet at the time of this posting.
O_O I think i may have misread something when i was looking at Zenfone 2's. Forgive my stupidity. It would seem I need to look more into it. In the end though its gonna come down to price at the time of purchase. Wouldn't happen to have link to your model for a decent price would you?
Jokester22 said:
O_O I think i may have misread something when i was looking at Zenfone 2's. Forgive my stupidity. It would seem I need to look more into it. In the end though its gonna come down to price at the time of purchase. Wouldn't happen to have link to your model for a decent price would you?
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USA right ?
:good:
Ah nice.
I hope its allowed too. That is a helpful one to look at, especially since I often overlook Ebay.
Thanks for that!

Still worthing buy the Nexus 5x in 2017?

Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
Don't do that I have lots of problems with this device (if you want to use it for modding or just unlocking bootloader) Click
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
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Edoardo396 said:
Don't do that I have lots of problems with this device (if you want to use it for modding or just unlocking bootloader) Click
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that's kinda single case. in general the N5X works very good, is easy to handle/to mod and its greatly supported by developers and Google.
also, the Nexus is always first in getting Android updates alongside with Pixel. so yeah, imo its still worth it to buy.
ulxerker said:
that's kinda single case. in general the N5X works very good, is easy to handle/to mod and its greatly supported by developers and Google.
also, the Nexus is always first in getting Android updates alongside with Pixel. so yeah, imo its still worth it to buy.
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Yes, I agree, it worked very well before the problem.
Here you have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izdD7l3BWY
Satisfied, and it is still a decent device. But if you are a heavy user with so many apps and multitasking requirements, I'd advise against it as a daily driver.
Yes. After more than a month of use, updated to 7.1.1 and jan security update, so far no problem. This one is my daily driver.
For the "right" price of course. You should try and negotiate.
I can buy three Pixels with my budget, but Im not considering changing my 5x as a daily driver yet. Using it since jan 2016, not a single issue except for the back cover getting dirty easily. Light, not too big not too small, not expensive, powerful enough for almost any task, great display, decent stereo speakers with mod, accurate GPS, good battery life with 7.1.1, always up to date, durable and impressive cameras.
Theres no better smartphone on the market IMO, of course depending on your wishes, you wont need anything other that N5X cannot offer.
It depends on who you are. A heavy user playing games, having a tens of apps opened or rather a decent one with social/media focus? This being a good device for sorta a middle demanding user. It's still got very good camera, vanilla Android, regular updates, good dimensions etc... Speaking for myself, I've always been happy with it. It just fits my needs
It depends!
i have this device from 1 month! it not so much time .. but enought for test it in deep.
the value depends on how much money you will spend!
because the 5x have some deficiencies compare with over middle range! display - battery - audio-ram is under the average!
although the cpu is a very good compromise: good performance and very low heat! and the camera is very very good too!
take your sum but i suggest to look something else and more future-proof ( mininum 3 gb of ram )
ps. I bought it because a friend of mine gave it to me for 100 euro 32 gb hehehehe and it have just 5 months. DD
It is a good phone unless you have unreasonable expectations. Works good for me
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
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Despite of the bootloop issue happening globally, I strongly suggest avoid buying it or any google device like 6P and other LG Devices for your own good
I just got mine early this month, I bought it coz I know it would still get the next Android version after Nougat. This thing takes great photos, arguably comparable or better than what the current flagships has to offer. And feels just as snappy. I would recommend it.
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JovieBrett said:
Despite of the bootloop issue happening globally, I strongly suggest avoid buying it or any google device like 6P and other LG Devices for your own good
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For some reason, I don't get no bootloops at all. I have stock everything.
arvinsheet said:
I just got mine early this month, I bought it coz I know it would still get the next Android version after Nougat. This thing takes great photos, arguably comparable or better than what the current flagships has to offer. And feels just as snappy. I would recommend it.
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For some reason, I don't get no bootloops at all. I have stock everything.
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Of course not all of us would experience that right away, LG itself claimed the hardware problem presented on Nexus 5X devices which causes the device to loop endlessly, telling to refund them as they're no longer have the parts to repair it.
I have my 5X, I bought it 2016, January and I wasn't aware of the hardware problem happening on 5X due to the bad soldering on the motherboard which the flash memory and Snapdragon chip residing on, few days ago I didn't knew that was the end making my $400 phone a paperweight, the worse thing is warranty has already expired plus I'm living outside the US and Europe so Google and LG's support are unavailable and are out of reach, so what now? Google left me out of the blue for nothing on this crap phone. I'm a huge fan of their nexus devices and 5X was my first ever phone I bought and same reason as yours why I bought it, very disappointed so never again to them and LG.
It's not bad for me to say him avoid buying it because I'm just concerned about it, rather than blame everything at the end of the day when it happens...
My opinion: just buy it If you like the stock android with quick updates, and modding/custom rom
If so, it's excellent, great screen, great camera, a lot of community roms/mods so you cant get bored...
But If you are not going to enjoy that you better go to other option
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Of course not all of us would experience that right away, LG itself claimed the hardware problem presented on Nexus 5X devices which causes the device to loop endlessly, telling to refund them as they're no longer have the parts to repair it.
I have my 5X, I bought it 2016, January and I wasn't aware of the hardware problem happening on 5X due to the bad soldering on the motherboard which the flash memory and Snapdragon chip residing on, few days ago I didn't knew that was the end making my $400 phone a paperweight, the worse thing is warranty has already expired plus I'm living outside the US and Europe so Google and LG's support are unavailable and are out of reach, so what now? Google left me out of the blue for nothing on this crap phone. I'm a huge fan of their nexus devices and 5X was my first ever phone I bought and same reason as yours why I bought it, very disappointed so never again to them and LG.
It's not bad for me to say him avoid buying it because I'm just concerned about it, rather than blame everything at the end of the day when it happens...
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They said the boot loops occurred after the Nougat update. I got the phone under marshmallow and updated it with no issues so far. Not sure if the boot loops occurs on all models though as there's a couple of them. I got the H791 (UK.EU version). Crossing my fingers.
Well, I got it for £200 and it is way worth the money. I think it's okay as a daily driver, but if you had the money - get the Pixel. It's just.. better. If the Pixel is a bit too much maybe get the Nexus 6P. It's an upgrade from this although personally I find 5.2" to be a perfect phone size, and alas the Pixel only comes in 5" and 5.5".
I'm using this as a daily driver with the following, it is still fast and amazing:
Pixel ROM (6.1)
F2FS Data & Cache Partitions
Adaway
Franco Kernel (r32)
SuperSU (SR3)
Naptime (Disable Motion, Instant Doze, and Exclude Fit)
L Speed (LNET Tweaked for Mobile Data, Disabled Debugging, and KSM Enable)
FKUpdator for HawkTail1.2 Governer
Thermal Throttling changed to 46 Degrees Celcius
XThermal Mod (for Charging)
Substratum for "Swift Dark Theme (7.1.1)"
TWRP Classic 3.0.2-2
UX Sound Mod (Final + HiFi)
My short answer No, do not buy. I was debating the Moto G4 Plus versus Nexus 5x last November and purchased the Nexus. It is impossible to say whether I would have liked the Moto better or not but I would research alternative phones before purchasing.
My longer answer is that the Nexus 5x works fairly well but often feels laggy, especially if you have too many chrome browser tabs open. Task switching often feels like my old memory constrained Windows 7 desktop computer. This is without playing any games or loading the Facebook app. These statements are made while running totally stock with the 7.0 OS release without any skins or launchers or widgets loaded. Also I might be primarily commenting on software issues with the Chrome Browser rather than the device itself but when on slow Wi-Fi or 3G connections I sometimes experienced greater than one second User Interface glitches when switching between apps or even getting the on screen keyboard to load in order to type. This all happened while on a long vacation/travel where internet access was often bandwidth constrained. Still I found the user experience to be poor even under good network conditions. I kept a few communications/text-chat apps loaded along with the browser and email and occasionally used some banking or calculator or news apps, enough that memory had to be reclaimed which appeared to be the biggest source of the UI pauses.
To add a little more context I purchased the 5x to replace my Asus Zenfone 2 after its wifi interface had died. The Zenfone 2 had 4 GB of memory and always task switched with ease and never felt laggy (though it was not a speed demon) even though it had a heavier skin. My old Nexus 4 was very SRAM constrained which eventually caused me to upgrade but it never felt as unresponsive as the newer 5x.
arvinsheet said:
They said the boot loops occurred after the Nougat update. I got the phone under marshmallow and updated it with no issues so far. Not sure if the boot loops occurs on all models though as there's a couple of them. I got the H791 (UK.EU version). Crossing my fingers.
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Then that's great for you your phone is running good 'til now. It just happened nougat is currently rolling out the time more and more users are getting affected because the older the phone, the more it's getting to an end, that's why lots of users feels like nougat is the problem when hardware is the fault itself, google and LG already declared their statement about it.

Battery issues..

So I've got a Optimus G, the sprint variant running 7.1.2 which it runs fine, unless I try to do something stupid like play lineage 2. Then it restarts. But now it has a new problem, if I unplug the device, at all, it just dies after like... 3 seconds? It was fine yesterday (when 7.1.2 was first installed) but now it won't boot if the battery is the only source of power. Seriously if you start it on the battery, it will forever try to boot into NitrogenOS. If it's on the charger then it will boot fine, until you unplug it. Any ideas? I already ordered a new battery, and I'm going to try the old unplug and plug back in on this current battery to see if that will help. Does anyone know anything? And before someone says it, I don't care if it the sprint variant; it has the GEEHRC board, and it's running a ROM from these threads, since the sprint threads are pretty much empty, I posted it here. Get over it.
My gf phone got stolen and I gave her my old E977, but i'm having this same issue. In fact now it doesn't even turn on/charge at all.
Get a new phone, the batteries on any phone can only last so long; especially when this phone has a battery from five years ago. Batteries do not maintain their advertised capacities for the entire duration of their lives, the older they are the more they're prone to not holding a charge, especially with older manufacturing technologies. Besides, the phone is so slow in today's world where it's no longer practical to keep the damn thing. I still have mine, my battery is gone and I just keep it because it was my first android phone / flagship. I now use an LG V30 and its eons ahead of this thing, the 10nm Snapdragon 835 is way better not to mention even budget phones will easily destroy the performance of the old Snapdragon S4 Pro, I'm sure you know this. You can even pick up a G6 for under 250$, which I also owned but sold in favor of the V30. Trust me, it's worth the upgrade from the pain and hassle of dealing with this archaic hardware. Don't buy a new battery either, you're pouring more money into the phone than what it's actually worth, you'll be losing value rather than gaining. You'll have a much better experience, I bet you probably cannot do this just yet, but when the time comes, and trust me it will; go for it and don't look back! Before my Optimus G died, I was running 5.0 when Cyanogen was still around; I was experiencing the same issues as you were, but when it finally never powered on again, I finally got a new device. I operated my Optimus G for around 3 years on and off until it never powered on again. Then I just got a OnePlus One when it was new, and never looked back. I could send you over a new G5, I never used it and it's inbox still, I never used it because I was not a fan of the design, LG sent me one because my G4 crapped out.
LGOptimusGHELP! said:
Get a new phone, the batteries on any phone can only last so long; especially when this phone has a battery from five years ago. Batteries do not maintain their advertised capacities for the entire duration of their lives, the older they are the more they're prone to not holding a charge, especially with older manufacturing technologies. Besides, the phone is so slow in today's world where it's no longer practical to keep the damn thing. I still have mine, my battery is gone and I just keep it because it was my first android phone / flagship. I now use an LG V30 and its eons ahead of this thing, the 10nm Snapdragon 835 is way better not to mention even budget phones will easily destroy the performance of the old Snapdragon S4 Pro, I'm sure you know this. You can even pick up a G6 for under 250$, which I also owned but sold in favor of the V30. Trust me, it's worth the upgrade from the pain and hassle of dealing with this archaic hardware. Don't buy a new battery either, you're pouring more money into the phone than what it's actually worth, you'll be losing value rather than gaining. You'll have a much better experience, I bet you probably cannot do this just yet, but when the time comes, and trust me it will; go for it and don't look back! Before my Optimus G died, I was running 5.0 when Cyanogen was still around; I was experiencing the same issues as you were, but when it finally never powered on again, I finally got a new device. I operated my Optimus G for around 3 years on and off until it never powered on again. Then I just got a OnePlus One when it was new, and never looked back. I could send you over a new G5, I never used it and it's inbox still, I never used it because I was not a fan of the design, LG sent me one because my G4 crapped out.
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If you do not mind, I will gladly accept G5 from you. :highfive:
I've also encountered the same problem, yet the battery is just fine while being on recovery or bootloader menu, so that is making me think, maybe the problem is not the battery

Question I've had enough with the Pixel 6 pro.

Pixel 6 pro, had it for like 3 months and this is getting outrages, fingerprint sometimes not working, phone buggy as hell, always over heating over the most basic of task, the battery life is mediocre compared to other phones of the same size and price, so many bugs like camera dot being turned upside down, things not loading and now?? None of the Chargers are charging the phone after the January update. Like not even the pixel 30W adapter and cable will charge it. Like what is this crap, $1200 CAD phone and it barely works and runs on an operating system that runs worse than window Vista. I thought Google had standards but clearly this phone is such a giant letdown, I could go on and on about all the problems this phone has and now the simplest of task can't even be accomplished by it, it can't even charge with a OEM cable and adapter and needs to be restarted 3 times a day when the system bugs out. I have never had such an awful experience with a phone and the pixel 6 pro just proves Google is incapable of making an actual flagship phone. I won't even start with my pixel buds 2 and how bad they are always disconnecting, every time one side earbud dies before the other even hits 90%. I've had enough of Google. It's been out for like 3-4 months and they still can't even fix this. Imagine if they focused on the phone with the same effort they do in the ads department.
As with your phone, have you tried a factory reset?
Your ear buds have gone bad. I had the same problem with my Sony wf-1000xm4 and Sony acknowledged it was a problem caused by a software update. I got mine replaced under warranty after almost a year.
I get you. I've felt like crushing the phone into bits with my hands, or snapping it in half.
But windows 11 for me is the same. My pixel watch etc. I think technology as a whole just isn't a user friendly experience
I got a Samsung a34 5G. Same. It's like the manufacturers of devices conform to deliberately build tech to screw up.
But having said all that, android Z is about 4-5 years away, and with enough people complaining about stuff not working, I think things will need to evolve
how did you get fricked over so badly with the price you paid for it - 1200 cad for a pixel 6 pro in feb 2023? you got ripped off, i got mine for the equivalent of 940 cad in june 2022
I've paid 350$ and i think that I'm ripped off
The phone is good but not as quality of 'google'
It makes some headache from time to time
I came from a oneplus 7 pro /8 5G about 2 years ago and it was a tough transition admittedly. However, I have to say that I've come to find this thing to be both versatile and quite resilient. I put it through hell and it only costs 30 bucks to replace the screen on Google's $9 protection plan. And thanks to the work of the development community, I enjoy a lot of cool features and privacy protection. After hearing about Google's plan for dashcam (supposably, you'll be able to user pixel as a dash cam via the safety app) I will give serious consideration to Pixel 8 Pro.
I'd say Android Flash Tool, flashing al partitions and formatting device, that worked for me, from hating it to loving it, try it if you want as your last choice, if that does not fix it, nothing will
Justarandomguy said:
I'd say Android Flash Tool, flashing al partitions and formatting device, that worked for me, from hating it to loving it, try it if you want as your last choice, if that does not fix it, nothing will
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my battery life was so bad, even after doing that, but a custom kernel fixed that
Main problem with mine has been the mediocre modem. Constantly have bad signal and at least twice a day whilst not on WiFi I will lose all connectivity. Even though shows I have signal and on 4g/5g I have to toggle airplane mode to get it talking again. My first experience on a Google phone and possibly my last
Bliss 16.7, radioactive kernel, with pictured modules, and LSPosed modules. Best phone setup I've had in awhile. Then get ReVanced modded apps. Hmu if you need help making your P6P better.
fil3s said:
I get you. I've felt like crushing the phone into bits with my hands, or snapping it in half.
But windows 11 for me is the same. My pixel watch etc. I think technology as a whole just isn't a user friendly experience
I got a Samsung a34 5G. Same. It's like the manufacturers of devices conform to deliberately build tech to screw up.
But having said all that, android Z is about 4-5 years away, and with enough people complaining about stuff not working, I think things will need to evolve
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I was a bit harsh in my statement about modern tech's shortcomings.
With AI manifesting itself daily into most applications I think things will change. I rooted my a34 and it is a little less powerful than the 6pro, with just 6gb of ram.
The pixel 6 pro isn't a bad phone, I was just having a bad day when I posted that.

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