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Are you going to keep your G4?

Having previously owned the G2 and G3, I was looking forward to the G4, however personally the camera is the only reason why I stick with it. Everything else seems like a downgrade from the G3, especially in the looks and feel. I'm glad we have root and Xposed which helps greatly, but going from the G2 to the G3 showed a large decline in dev support, and seeing as how it's been several months since release and we still have no custom ROMs makes it seem like there is going to be very little dev support going forward, even if we eventually get custom ROMs.
I don't remember wanting a new phone so quickly the last 2 years, but I've been anxiously awaiting the new phones this fall to see if there is something else that I'd like more. I'm leaning towards either the Moto X Pure or new Nexus.
Is anyone else disappointed enough in either the phone or dev support that they are looking to replace their G4 earlier than usual?

For most people the G4 is one heck of a phone, but for those of us who hang out here, no development = no fun.

I do like the G4 for the most part. It has it's issues though. Particularly the Verizon one more so from all I've read.
I mainly am bothered by the touchscreen issues. So many missed taps or swipes registering as taps instead and opening things I meant to just swipe across or whatever. Little bit of lag but it's workable.
Coming to it from the Galaxy S4 it was definitely an upgrade regardless. The only thing that really stopped me from buying the S6 edge was the piddly battery and it not being changeable. Now that the S6 edge + is out and they've beefed up the battery, in hindsight if it was released at the same time I would have bought that instead because I did like the S4 for it's time.
That's the tech world for you though, you buy something new that's the best that day and something (arguably) better comes out right around the corner.

Every point I was going to make has been covered.
The Samsung development overshadows LG development, 2 to 1.
Definitely will be a consideration on the next purchase.
Take note LG, we wont be fooled again.

I was going to sell my G4 now, but not really excited about anything out there. Probably waiting for the new Motorola X Pure. Checked selling prices on swappa and I will already lose $100 or more if I sell now. Maybe I shouldn't wait..

I already got the galaxy s6 edge+ and have the moto x pure arriving soon. The development in this and the main G4 section bores me, so i recently listed my G4 on Swappa. Time will tell if i list my Samsung, but I should at least be good with the moto for a while!

If I wasn't trying to save money, I would consider the MXP. That said, even though there isn't a thriving development community for it, the G4 works pretty well for my needs since root and Xposed are available for it and haven't been giving me any issues.

mtva24 said:
I already got the galaxy s6 edge+ and have the moto x pure arriving soon. The development in this and the main G4 section bores me, so i recently listed my G4 on Swappa. Time will tell if i list my Samsung, but I should at least be good with the moto for a while!
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I remember reading that the Note 5 and I assume S6 Edge + are not able to be unlocked/rooted on Verizon and AT&T, as Samsung has incorporated that into Knox that the phones will no longer work if modified (or something along those lines).
I miss the days when pretty much all phones, especially flagships, had tons of dev support and were rooted quickly. Seems like as time goes on pretty much only Nexus and unlocked global phones get any support.

Bailed for Nexus 6...couldn't take not having roms....... my wife is happy with it.

Made the exact same decision. I don't miss that phone at all. Nexus 6 may be older but it still is a kick a** phone
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I may regret this decision, but I decided to preorder the iPhone 6s lol
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So far love the G4, but it's only been a week, not noticing any issues thus far. Coming from a bad experience with a Sony Z3V and Verizon, who finally agreed to give me a new phone and I picked the G4. My biggest concern was the battery but I'm getting 2 days with moderate use.

Yes, for now.
In general the phone is pretty good I'm just disappointed that there is no unlocked boot-loader and custom recovery as yet for the VS986. I hope it becomes available in the near future.

Cwey55 said:
Coming to it from the Galaxy S4 it was definitely an upgrade regardless.
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I have a Galaxy S4 and trying to decide between the S6 and G4. What has me most considering the G4 over the S6 is the lack of removable battery and expandable memory on the S6. Reviews I have seen mostly rate the S6 higher as far as specs. But I can live with a slightly slower performing phone if it has other features more important to me. I don't care what material the phone is made of because I always put them in cases to protect them. You say the G4 is definitely an upgrade. What about the G4 in your opinion make it better then the S4? Also that screen issue you were referring to, is that typical of the G4 or an issue with some owners? I would appreciate feedback from any other former S4 owners. Thanks.

Pretty unhappy with my G4, even after rooting and trying several fixes for existing issues. The battery life is poor at best, the touch screen misses and issues are awful and on top of that, general lag persists throughout the day. Overall, I WANT to like the phone. I like the camera, the shape, etc. I really think we need the bootloader unlocked to have users fix these issues that LG and VZW cannot. I'm stuck on the edge plan, so I guess I'm waiting.

Eddie Hicks said:
I have a Galaxy S4 and trying to decide between the S6 and G4. What has me most considering the G4 over the S6 is the lack of removable battery and expandable memory on the S6. Reviews I have seen mostly rate the S6 higher as far as specs. But I can live with a slightly slower performing phone if it has other features more important to me. I don't care what material the phone is made of because I always put them in cases to protect them. You say the G4 is definitely an upgrade. What about the G4 in your opinion make it better then the S4? Also that screen issue you were referring to, is that typical of the G4 or an issue with some owners? I would appreciate feedback from any other former S4 owners. Thanks.
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Well to be honest as I write this I'm working on getting myself into the S6 edge + or Note 5 now that they've come out. More on that later.
But, coming from the S4 back in June my contract happened to be up for upgrade on the exact release date of the G4, I would have been totally content to stick with the Galaxy line had they not gotten away from the removable battery and SD card support in the S6, and the battery that is in the S6 really is pretty tiny. That was the deciding factor for me buying the G4 much like you're concerned with. Other than those things the S6/S6 edge would have been perfect to me. I decided to try something new and went with the G4 on the basis they had the removable battery and SD card slot (and the changeable backs as a bonus).
Naturally with there being two years between my S4 and the G4, the G4 is faster and smoother, has a better display, better camera. That's just advancements in technology at work. Down the line we'll look at the same specs as today's flagship phones as minor leagues.
Read around here and just about any phone forums, you'll see the same things echoed to varying degrees:
S6: Piddly battery life, no SD card, no removable battery, great looking screen, fast, arguably best camera, great build with the glass/metal, quick charge/wireless charge built in
G4: Bigger swappable battery, great (larger) screen, fast but some models lag depending on carrier, arguably best camera, nice changeable backs, wireless charge not built in, some models with touch screen response issues
Like I said you'll read the same things everywhere and just have to decide what works best for you. If you're the type that prefers to swap the battery for a quick boost to 100%, don't buy the S6 obviously. If you like the idea of using wireless charging, don't buy the G4 obviously. If you prefer a smaller screen go with the S6, if you want big go G4 (Or the newer Note 5 or S6 edge + of course), if you want to try a new button scheme go G4 (I do like the rear buttons) or if you like traditional side buttons go Samsung. It's a tough call really, you get what I mean, either way it's been years since the S4 so no matter what you're going to get a better phone due to the advancements both companies have made. Compared to the S4 both the S6 and G4 will fly through processing, have better displays, have better cameras, and be more efficient. You just have to decide which features are more important to you.
Now, I know you didn't mention the newer S6 edge + or Note 5 but they've been released since the G4 was released and in hindsight if they'd been released all at the same time I'd have chosen one of them over the G4 and am probably switching over to one of them soon as I can. As I said earlier the only reason I went with the G4 over the original S6 was the tiny battery in the S6, and in the newer two phones Samsung has beefed up that department to match the G4 at 3000mah. So that said, I'm probably looking to get back into a Samsung, because when it was in it's prime, I really did love my S4.
My main gripe with the G4 is the touch screen response, which like I said if you read around you will see it is pretty common and no known fix has been brought to light. It seems pretty hit or miss but it is really frustrating.
Hopefully I helped and answered some of your questions. If not feel free to let me know.

Cwey55 said:
Well to be honest as I write this I'm working on getting myself into the S6 edge + or Note 5 now that they've come out. More on that later.
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Cwey I very much appreciate your detailed and very helpful reply. After reading it this morning I decided to get the S6. I picked one up a 64gb version a couple of hours ago and my wife got a iPhone 6S (she loves apples ). I figure with 64gb's SD card memory expansion is no big deal. I had to give up my unlimited data because I'm doing the 24 month no-contract phone payment service. I really don't use a lot of data anyway. I was on the old service plan paying for minutes and text. I'm actually paying about $10 a month less with unlimited calls and text. I looked into other phones also like the soon to be relesed Nexus 5X but the specs don't seem to be that great. The S6 Edge+ and Note 5 are too big for my taste. The larger size of the G4 is also a negative for me. Also I have the S6 with the OE2 firmware which can be rooted. The updated OF1 cannot be rooted at this time. I just have to be careful not to allow the firmware update to go through. Thanks again.

I got a Nexus 6 as well. Great phone even though it is old now. Also got a One M9 and sent it off to Java Card S-Off'ed. Also a good phone with custom roms. I miss the G4 camera a bit but nothing else.

I'll be looking at the Nexus 5X or the Moto X Pure as a replacement for the G4

I'm not sure how long i will keep it, because the digital products update so fast!

Is this phone still worth getting in 2015?

Like thte title says, is this phone still good? How does it run with lollipop?

I think so, it's a pretty fast phone and still has active rom support (if you're into flashing roms). The camera is great, speakers are pretty good, screen looks really nice so yeah i think it is still worth getting and it's cheaper than most phones with the same specs.

I bought it a month ago..It's great.

To be completely honest, if I could go back to when I bought this phone, I would buy a Nexus 5 instead. Lollipop support is so-so really, NFC doesn't work, getting it working with T-Mobile can be tricky some times, and battery life on Lollipop is not so great since getting it to deep sleep is kind of a crap shoot. Nexus 5 is faster, has much more support so you don't need to flash roms, battery is great, camera in my experience is pretty close to as good as the G Pro. When I bought this phone I was hoping Nexus 4 or 5 roms would easily port over since their all made by LG, but man was I wrong there... This weekend I restored it back to stock AT&T 4.4 because I was getting so pissed off every time something wasn't working properly (and I want to use Google Wallet/Android Pay again), and I'm now just playing the waiting game until Christmas when I'll get the new Nexus 5. I'm just so sick of playing tech support for my phone every week when something goes wrong, and having to choose between having stability with a two year old version of Android or having the latest and greatest, but it's unstable. Sorry for the rant, but that last part is the entire reason why the ONLY Android device I will every buy again is a Nexus, and if the new Nexus 5 somehow disappoints and I'm jumping ship to the iPhone. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really don't feel like I should have to choose between getting timely updates and stability, and only the iPhones and Nexus (and motorola to a point) offer this.

This phone is now a poor man's nexus. A phone still with decent spec for under $200. So instead of asking if it's still worth to get it, ask how much money can you spend.

horrendous battery life... what's going on here?

OK,
So I have an SM-P600 which I kept completely stock until 2 years after my purchase date (needed the Knox environment for the first two years).
It is fully rooted with TWRP 3.0.0.1 and have been running CM 12.1 for ~3 weeks (prior to that I was giving Temasek's CM13 build a go). Over the last few weeks, the tablet has been getting worse and worse battery life.
Today, I watched it carefully and this graph blew my mind. It didn't make any sense at all, but if I don't have any way to recover from this than this tablet is worth less than the plastic it is made out of.
Is there anything that can be done about this or is the battery in this thing effectively dead at this point?
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Enzymaticracer

App caches and databases outta control. SD Maid is IMHO the best tool, oversees nothing. The device gets also notably hotter and slower in severe cases. It has to handle dozens of thousands of tiny files. A Windows PC can handle this and much more, an Android device not.

Enzymaticracer said:
OK,
So I have an SM-P600 which I kept completely stock until 2 years after my purchase date (needed the Knox environment for the first two years).
It is fully rooted with TWRP 3.0.0.1 and have been running CM 12.1 for ~3 weeks (prior to that I was giving Temasek's CM13 build a go). Over the last few weeks, the tablet has been getting worse and worse battery life.
Today, I watched it carefully and this graph blew my mind. It didn't make any sense at all, but if I don't have any way to recover from this than this tablet is worth less than the plastic it is made out of.
Is there anything that can be done about this or is the battery in this thing effectively dead at this point?
Thanks
Enzymaticracer
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Looking at your graph, that is a substantial drop in a short time. I see its been 2 weeks or so since your original post, if it's still acting in the same manner it may be about time for a new battery. They (the batteries) seem to fail in the note 10.1 2014 editions after 2-2.5 years. The battery is an easy repair, I posted the step by step instructions with pictures after doing mine, that post is here. The battery is worth replacing if its failed (or failing) if you otherwise like your tablet. I do recommend paying for an actual Samsung brand replacement battery and not going with one of the cheaper aftermarket replacement batteries. I went with an el cheapo battery I found on Amazon and it's already showing signs of eminent failure and needs replacement again (only approx. 6 months old).
As for the overheating issue, cm13 seems to run the CPUs at full capacity nearly 100% of the time. CM12.1 is much friendlier on the CPU's and for that very reason I now stick to CM12.1 on mine. Another option (if you haven't already tried it) in the PACMAN ROM. It's another unofficial cm12.1 build. It's operates pretty smooth, relatively few bugs. Heres a link to it http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/development/rom-pac-rom-lp-mr1-beta-2-t3144252
Best of luck to you

thebadwrench said:
Looking at your graph, that is a substantial drop in a short time. I see its been 2 weeks or so since your original post, if it's still acting in the same manner it may be about time for a new battery. They (the batteries) seem to fail in the note 10.1 2014 editions after 2-2.5 years. The battery is an easy repair, I posted the step by step instructions with pictures after doing mine, that post is here. The battery is worth replacing if its failed (or failing) if you otherwise like your tablet. I do recommend paying for an actual Samsung brand replacement battery and not going with one of the cheaper aftermarket replacement batteries. I went with an el cheapo battery I found on Amazon and it's already showing signs of eminent failure and needs replacement again (only approx. 6 months old).
As for the overheating issue, cm13 seems to run the CPUs at full capacity nearly 100% of the time. CM12.1 is much friendlier on the CPU's and for that very reason I now stick to CM12.1 on mine. Another option (if you haven't already tried it) in the PACMAN ROM. It's another unofficial cm12.1 build. It's operates pretty smooth, relatively few bugs. Heres a link to it http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/development/rom-pac-rom-lp-mr1-beta-2-t3144252
Best of luck to you
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Hi Wrench,
Thanks for the suggestion. That is effectively the same conclusion I had come to.
However, this is now the 3rd Samsung device for which I've had horrible experiences with between 1.0-2.0 years after purchase. I'll spare you the details, but the only Android device I will be buying from here on out will be a Nexus device.... assuming they have one in a form factor *I* want.
Otherwise, wife just purchased the newest iPad, so I'm using her nearly *4* year old iPad 4 now, which, amazingly, still works. Still hate iOS, but it *actually* does what I need it to do at this point.
Just like Samsung doesn't support their devices... I'm not going to support them anymore.

Enzymaticracer said:
Hi Wrench,
Thanks for the suggestion. That is effectively the same conclusion I had come to.
However, this is now the 3rd Samsung device for which I've had horrible experiences with between 1.0-2.0 years after purchase. I'll spare you the details, but the only Android device I will be buying from here on out will be a Nexus device.... assuming they have one in a form factor *I* want.
Otherwise, wife just purchased the newest iPad, so I'm using her nearly *4* year old iPad 4 now, which, amazingly, still works. Still hate iOS, but it *actually* does what I need it to do at this point.
Just like Samsung doesn't support their devices... I'm not going to support them anymore.
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Nexus devices aren't all they're cracked up to be. I dropped my nexus 9 for an S2 and couldn't be happier. I hate samsung BTW because of their lack of support after purchase, but it doesn't seem like any company is much better. They don't want you to have a device longer than 2 yrs, period. My dad is still using a 9yr old laptop on windows 10 with no problems. Sure it's not as speedy as my 2.5yr old gaming laptop (also on the latest windows OS) but it does what he wants.

Concerns with purchasing a Zenfone 2.

Today I have been looking at new phones to purchase since I broke my old one. I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2.
My question to those of you here who have used this phone is, have you had any major issues with it that would warrant a replacement? Also, would it be a good phone to set up a custom modded rom on or should I look into other alternatives?

Jokester22 said:
Today I have been looking at new phones to purchase since I broke my old one. I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2.
My question to those of you here who have used this phone is, have you had any major issues with it that would warrant a replacement? Also, would it be a good phone to set up a custom modded rom on or should I look into other alternatives?
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Had mine since new , battery is better now than when I first used it at the beginning >19 months ago .
Brought it back from brick successfully every time .
Nougat is available now cm14.1 and although unofficial at the moment , it is great for me as main ROM and I am sure it will go from strength to strength.
Again , it all depends what you really want, I was contemplating a newer device this year but the devs bringing N changed my mind for at least another year.
This is the longest I have ever kept a phone BTW and its going no- where, any time soon.
Mines the ze551ml z00a 64gb 4gb ram 2.3ghz version comes with fast charger adapter.

timbernot said:
Had mine since new , battery is better now than when I first used it at the beginning >19 months ago .
Brought it back from brick successfully every time .
Nougat is available now cm14.1 and although unofficial at the moment , it is great for me as main ROM and I am sure it will go from strength to strength.
Again , it all depends what you really want, I was contemplating a newer device this year but the devs bringing N changed my mind for at least another year.
This is the longest I have ever kept a phone BTW and its going no- where, any time soon.
Mines the ze551ml z00a 64gb 4gb ram 2.3ghz version comes with fast charger adapter.
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Awesome! My biggest concern was going to be the battery. Some of the reviews I have read for the phone have been concerning in regards to the battery. Someone even said that the battery expanded and popped up their screen. Seemed a bit crazy. Is it true that the battery can't be removed? At least not by conventional methods... Also what carrier are you using it on?
Edit: Just noticed you are in the UK so the carrier thing won't help answer all my questions. LOL. However, it looks like it should be compatible with many of the carriers in the US.

Not seen many US people making threads about bands so should be OK

I definitely not suggest you this phone. (unless you pay it 100€)
-Poor battery life
-Bad quality construction (Speaker braking and ghost touch almost on every device after 6-12 months)
-Too big and heavy (this may be subjective).
-Bad software optimization
I'm moving to Lenovo Zuk Z2.

This is an old phone now. Get something new. :good:

timbernot said:
Had mine since new , battery is better now than when I first used it at the beginning >19 months ago .
Brought it back from brick successfully every time .
Nougat is available now cm14.1 and although unofficial at the moment , it is great for me as main ROM and I am sure it will go from strength to strength.
Again , it all depends what you really want, I was contemplating a newer device this year but the devs bringing N changed my mind for at least another year.
This is the longest I have ever kept a phone BTW and its going no- where, any time soon.
Mines the ze551ml z00a 64gb 4gb ram 2.3ghz version comes with fast charger adapter.
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DONT buy it
Reasons?:
-Poor battery life
-Ghost touches everywhere (defective phones, no matter how many times do you use warranty, ghost touches always come back)
-ASUS really dont want you to use other roms (its kinda easy to use other roms if you are experienced, but if you are a noob with android rooting, unlocking bl and that ****, you'll have some troubles).

gREENNNNN said:
DONT buy it
Reasons?:
-Poor battery life
-Ghost touches everywhere (defective phones, no matter how many times do you use warranty, ghost touches always come back)
-ASUS really dont want you to use other roms (its kinda easy to use other roms if you are experienced, but if you are a noob with android rooting, unlocking bl and that ****, you'll have some troubles).
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Mines great , like already mentioned.
I don't experience anything like you lot have experienced
Will do me for another year at least.
I had the HTC one m7 4g version from new , camera went pink and battery would be approx 27% when I got home from a shift(below health and battery longevity threshold) and it would get hotter than the sun , whereas same shift and I'm in the high 70's % with the zenny
Not a scratch on it , no ghost sh1t or anything.
When it was new , battery was like the m7 with stock ROM
Nothing but praise at a 3rd the price of the HTC one

Jokester22 said:
Today I have been looking at new phones to purchase since I broke my old one. I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2.
My question to those of you here who have used this phone is, have you had any major issues with it that would warrant a replacement? Also, would it be a good phone to set up a custom modded rom on or should I look into other alternatives?
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As you can see there are a few who have had issues with their device, but there are the exceptions rather than the rule. EVERY phone line will have some who have issues. I think some of those here wouldn't be happy with a phone that lasts ten years on a charge and could cook and clean for them, but I digress.
I have had the US version of the ZE551ML 64GB since launch day. Great phone, great performance, good battery life (lasts me all day and then some, but my wife can kill it in no time when she gets to seriously playing games on it; it is a phone and not a Gameboy). I have used mine on the AT&T/Cricket network with no problems whatsoever. It should work on T-mobile but it does not have band 12 so I don't know how solid it would be on LTE.
I did have to RMA my original phone just before the one year warranty ran out, but it was not for a failure. On mine the glue between the glass and LCD separated; this did not affect its performance but it did create a silver outline around the screen. Asus replaced my phone without an issue because they were out of replacement screens at the time. I would have no issue whatsoever with buying another ZE551ML.

Don't bother dude, it's got the ****tiest build quality. Mine looks like it came from the trash. Sure it runs smooth, but ghost touches are a *****.

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As you can see there are a few who have had issues with their device, but there are the exceptions rather than the rule. EVERY phone line will have some who have issues. I think some of those here wouldn't be happy with a phone that lasts ten years on a charge and could cook and clean for them, but I digress.
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Yeah, there has been a lot of tossing and turning over the quality of this phone. As my issue is being the cost of the phone, I am trying not to spend too much more than $200. Actually noticed that the Zenfone 3 was around and considered getting the Laser. After some research and thinking though I'm going with the Moto G4, maybe the G4 Plus.

I'm actually in the same boat here.
I am tired of being stuck to a carrier.
Currently on sprint and the service just sucks. I can spend less than $200 for the 64gb ZE551ml and can switch to metro or something. I don't have the money to spend on super high end phones.
I saw the Zenfone 3 laser but not sure what to do.
I was super intrigued when I first saw this phone.

Dalamar1320 said:
I'm actually in the same boat here.
I am tired of being stuck to a carrier.
Currently on sprint and the service just sucks. I can spend less than $200 for the 64gb ZE551ml and can switch to metro or something. I don't have the money to spend on super high end phones.
I saw the Zenfone 3 laser but not sure what to do.
I was super intrigued when I first saw this phone.
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https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-g
This is the phone I have decided to go with. I have not ordered one yet as I am not in a dire need for a phone but it looks really good and its a more recent release compared to the Zenfone 2. The Zenfone 3 laser was my second choice or even the Honor 5x.

4gb ram 64gb version is $300

It is but I don't really have a need for all that. The biggest issue I had with my last phone was the processor was just crap.

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It is but I don't really have a need for all that. The biggest issue I had with my last phone was the processor was just crap.
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"..... I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2....." from your first post
You a real jokester ?

timbernot said:
"..... I like the price and specs of the Asus Zenfone 2....." from your first post
You a real jokester ?
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I mostly saw 2gb versions XD. Don't get me wrong. I would not mind a 4gb phone but as per preference I would rather just get the newer hardware.
Edit: I should also note that I had not looked at much other phones yet at the time of this posting.

O_O I think i may have misread something when i was looking at Zenfone 2's. Forgive my stupidity. It would seem I need to look more into it. In the end though its gonna come down to price at the time of purchase. Wouldn't happen to have link to your model for a decent price would you?

Jokester22 said:
O_O I think i may have misread something when i was looking at Zenfone 2's. Forgive my stupidity. It would seem I need to look more into it. In the end though its gonna come down to price at the time of purchase. Wouldn't happen to have link to your model for a decent price would you?
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USA right ?
:good:

Ah nice.
I hope its allowed too. That is a helpful one to look at, especially since I often overlook Ebay.
Thanks for that!

Question I've had enough with the Pixel 6 pro.

Pixel 6 pro, had it for like 3 months and this is getting outrages, fingerprint sometimes not working, phone buggy as hell, always over heating over the most basic of task, the battery life is mediocre compared to other phones of the same size and price, so many bugs like camera dot being turned upside down, things not loading and now?? None of the Chargers are charging the phone after the January update. Like not even the pixel 30W adapter and cable will charge it. Like what is this crap, $1200 CAD phone and it barely works and runs on an operating system that runs worse than window Vista. I thought Google had standards but clearly this phone is such a giant letdown, I could go on and on about all the problems this phone has and now the simplest of task can't even be accomplished by it, it can't even charge with a OEM cable and adapter and needs to be restarted 3 times a day when the system bugs out. I have never had such an awful experience with a phone and the pixel 6 pro just proves Google is incapable of making an actual flagship phone. I won't even start with my pixel buds 2 and how bad they are always disconnecting, every time one side earbud dies before the other even hits 90%. I've had enough of Google. It's been out for like 3-4 months and they still can't even fix this. Imagine if they focused on the phone with the same effort they do in the ads department.

As with your phone, have you tried a factory reset?
Your ear buds have gone bad. I had the same problem with my Sony wf-1000xm4 and Sony acknowledged it was a problem caused by a software update. I got mine replaced under warranty after almost a year.

I get you. I've felt like crushing the phone into bits with my hands, or snapping it in half.
But windows 11 for me is the same. My pixel watch etc. I think technology as a whole just isn't a user friendly experience
I got a Samsung a34 5G. Same. It's like the manufacturers of devices conform to deliberately build tech to screw up.
But having said all that, android Z is about 4-5 years away, and with enough people complaining about stuff not working, I think things will need to evolve

how did you get fricked over so badly with the price you paid for it - 1200 cad for a pixel 6 pro in feb 2023? you got ripped off, i got mine for the equivalent of 940 cad in june 2022

I've paid 350$ and i think that I'm ripped off
The phone is good but not as quality of 'google'
It makes some headache from time to time

I came from a oneplus 7 pro /8 5G about 2 years ago and it was a tough transition admittedly. However, I have to say that I've come to find this thing to be both versatile and quite resilient. I put it through hell and it only costs 30 bucks to replace the screen on Google's $9 protection plan. And thanks to the work of the development community, I enjoy a lot of cool features and privacy protection. After hearing about Google's plan for dashcam (supposably, you'll be able to user pixel as a dash cam via the safety app) I will give serious consideration to Pixel 8 Pro.

I'd say Android Flash Tool, flashing al partitions and formatting device, that worked for me, from hating it to loving it, try it if you want as your last choice, if that does not fix it, nothing will

Justarandomguy said:
I'd say Android Flash Tool, flashing al partitions and formatting device, that worked for me, from hating it to loving it, try it if you want as your last choice, if that does not fix it, nothing will
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my battery life was so bad, even after doing that, but a custom kernel fixed that

Main problem with mine has been the mediocre modem. Constantly have bad signal and at least twice a day whilst not on WiFi I will lose all connectivity. Even though shows I have signal and on 4g/5g I have to toggle airplane mode to get it talking again. My first experience on a Google phone and possibly my last

Bliss 16.7, radioactive kernel, with pictured modules, and LSPosed modules. Best phone setup I've had in awhile. Then get ReVanced modded apps. Hmu if you need help making your P6P better.

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I get you. I've felt like crushing the phone into bits with my hands, or snapping it in half.
But windows 11 for me is the same. My pixel watch etc. I think technology as a whole just isn't a user friendly experience
I got a Samsung a34 5G. Same. It's like the manufacturers of devices conform to deliberately build tech to screw up.
But having said all that, android Z is about 4-5 years away, and with enough people complaining about stuff not working, I think things will need to evolve
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I was a bit harsh in my statement about modern tech's shortcomings.
With AI manifesting itself daily into most applications I think things will change. I rooted my a34 and it is a little less powerful than the 6pro, with just 6gb of ram.
The pixel 6 pro isn't a bad phone, I was just having a bad day when I posted that.